Jim Cornette on Why Randy Savage Never Returned To WWE
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- From Episode 113 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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A bigger Macho Man question for me is why did the WWF use him as a commentator when he was still over and they were seriously lacking talent.
Vince felt that guys like Randy were past their prime and had decided it was time for him to move on and create new superstars. It was one of the reasons why Hogan left and eventually became one of the reasons why Randy left. It was talked about it briefly during the episode they did on him for dark side of ring.
Yeah i was always pissed Macho didn't get that 3rd WWF title win at a time when he easily could've had one. Randy was still over in the early 90's Vince can't ever use that age thing cos thats utter horsecrap. Hogan returned in the early 2000's and was a WWE Champion again wasn't he? By beating Triple H (shrugs).
They were going with younger guys. The "New Generation". That's why Shawn took on Bret at Survivor Series '92 for the WWF title. It's why Bret won the title a month before that.
Savage proposed a two-year feud with HBK, with HBK going over in the end, but it was nixed by Vince. Savage didn't want to commentate (and he was right), so he left.
@@adammartin2025 I know, but we as fans did enjoy the little time he had with Jerry Lawler on commentary at the time when Lawler was pretty sick on the mic being a heel against his babyface. But yeah it didn't last too long by the end of 1994 he bounced to WCW. The rest as they say is history!
@@adammartin2025 "They were going with younger guys" while I get that they still could have went with Younger guys but have Macho Man there to main event a few matches
When steph is fooling around with HHH, she yells “OH YEAH, DIG IT!” when she climaxes.
Maybe she makes HHH say it?....🤷♂️
forget Slim Jim, he messed with Stephanie - karma now that Stephanie looks like she is morphing into Chyna
😂...
😂😂😂😂
@@therealshemphoward1752She was hot as heck though, back in the day. Lol
"Oh yea. The cream rises to the top." - Macho Man
The Macho Cream lol
@@dskinner8757 is there any other kind?
@@amongstthemasses3097 not in this natural world there's not lol
Stephanie is my age (I think) and holy f__k she could get a rise out of me anytime! :D
And the beat goes on
WWE and Savage were on speaking terms again at the time of his death. He worked a couple of promos for the game, and looked like he was set to make a TV appearance. It was very reminiscent of what happened with Warrior in 2014. Unfortunately Randy passed away just weeks after recording the promos.
As for the Stephanie rumours - the earliest trace of these can be found on the Death Valley Driver forums, around the early 2000s, in a forum thread that was basically a game where people were challenged to come up with the most ridiculous rumours they could think of. One person suggested Steph and Mach got it on in 94, and that's why he left the company in a hurry and never came back. There is no earlier trace of these rumours that can be found anywhere on the internet, in newsgroups (which were huge in the 90s and early 2000s), the dirt sheets, forums, or anywhere. The fact that all other "sources" (if they can be called that) date from after that joke post on the DVD forums suggests that it's likely a joke that's gotten way out of hand.
Sooo he fucked steph 😂
This should be top comment. Exposing "Facts" as fiction.
Hhh is that you ?
That and that video randy savage made slating triple h and he was going to take “his” girl Stephanie. Has helped kept that urban legend going.
This reminds me of the whole Delonte West Lebron James' mom situation in the NBA
I can listen to Jim all day and never get bored with it.
Yeah until you hear him talk politics! Did lives his daily life as a conservative but sides with out-of-touch woke democratic socialism.
@@brentmichael4770Jim’s politics are absolutely one of my favorite of his qualities and it makes me value, appreciate, and love him more. It’s nice to know that he values what I do, and that’s important to me. Sorry you dislike it. 🤷🏻♀️
His brother Lanny Poffo went into detail about this in an interview (from Kayfabecommentaries) a few years back. He claimed that bad blood between Randy Savage and Vince McMahon had started in the late 80s when Savage asked McMahon to have his father Angelo Poffo (also a wrestler) to participate in an upcoming legends battle royal at a house show they were having at the time. According to Lanny, Angelo really wanted to be in that battle royal. To be in the ring together one last time with all his friends from back then, some of which he haven't seen in years. So he asked his son Randy if he could get him on this battle royal. Vince declined.
Lanny explained that from that day forward Randy had a chip on his shoulder and he never forgot about Vince not granting him this simple wish. Lanny said there weren't a lot of days after that where Randy wouldn't mention it. Even decades later Randy would bring this up.
Another contributing factor according to Lanny was, around 1994, Randy Savage was pitching McMahon an elaborate idea for a big 2-year feud against Shawn Michaels. Supposedly McMahon said to Savage they were having a youth movement at the time and Randy was too old and the best thing he could do was staying on the commentary desk. He left for WCW shortly after this. And he took his sponsor SlimJim with him.
Lanny was also asked about the Stephanie rumors, but could not confirm any of it. People would have to ask Stephanie herself, he said.
tl/dr
- Savage never returned because he never forgave McMahon for not putting his father into a legends battle royal and also got put on the commentary desk against his will
- McMahon never had Savage return, because he never forgave Savage for taking his sponsor SlimJim with him when he left WWF.
You should check the interview out. Google kayfabefcommentaries to find their site. They also did many releases with Jim Cornette which are hilarious :)
(edited for typos)
Wasn't Randy one of guys that were involved in the steroid trial in the early 90s. I know Hogan testified. It could have been that Vince didn't want him in a program with an upcoming Michaels with the public image of Savage during the aftermath of the trial. I'm spittballing here but if someone could enlighten me on the subject that would be great.
@@prestanmarquis Yeah. Absolutely possible. We might never know. I was just reiterating what Lanny said in that interview. That obviously doesn't have to be the final answer on anything. Could be any number of reasons why things happened the way they did.
@@radu6271 Its just soo weird because Warrior hated Vince more than anyone and they made peace before he passed.
Wow that's crazy
John's right. Unlike Jim Herd, Eric Bischoff, and Vince Russo (all of whom relied HEAVILY on name recognition), Vince McMahon always enjoyed turning unknowns into superstars.
Rocky Maivia into "The Rock," Mean Mark Callous into "The Undertaker," Cactus Jack into "Mankind," the list goes on.
Anyone remember the 80's promo with Okerlund when Okerlund asks Savage what he's doing & Randy says " Gathering Momentum.... Oh, yeah....... Gathering momentum!" Classic😀👍
Can’t wait to hear Russo say that Vince McMahon confided all the sordid details about savage and Steph in in him.
With opening the sordid details with “Bro, I don’t talk wrestling anymore. I hate fucking wrestling.....” then proceeds to talk Steph/Savage/Miss Elisabeth for 20-30 minutes.
If I remember correctly, Savage was going to go back to the WWE for the Royal Rumble, they were advertising a surprise entry which was a silhouette. It was pushed heavily. Randy no showed the event without ever calling Vince. They used Jeff Jarrett instead, so like Luger, Vince was pissed.
Yep and he called Vince to tell him about the WCW deal in the middle of the night, drunk, and told Vince off. He also never came groveling back or asked to come back.
I've been watching some of the 1994 Raw's recently, where Randy "Macho Man" Savage was the colour commentator, and it really looked and sounded like he loved working with Randy on the mic. Honestly, I think Vince was heartbroken when he left; like, feeling betrayed by his best friend. It's like he couldn't have forgiven him.
You are correct. Randy was a very professionnal person and he was genuinely caring about the wrestling business.He always was on time.
I don''t believe the rumors that he had he had sex with an underage Stephanie.
Partially yes
People commenting are saying VM cried that Randy was leaving. Its possible that Randy didnt give enough of a notice but what gets me is that it reminds me of Cm Punk when he said VM cried when he left. Vince doesnt know or he doesnt separate friendship from money and he seems detached at times from those he easily claims are his 'friends' and yet throughout the days leading to these stars leaving you can tell that Vince was overusing them and forgetting the so called 'friendship' terms. 'Friends' my ass, Vince is detached in reality and this dumb nut is too old to learn what treating someone like a friend is really like. Its said really that this old fart hasnt learned enough in life to truly be like the movie character Jerry Maguire- a true figure of compassion, ethics and human treatment towards others. I just hope this man (Vince) didnt ruin his 'close friend' R-truth in any ways. Sad really if he did.
Maybe WWE were open to a Savage return. He was part of the WWE AllStars video game in 2011 and he did a series of commercials for it before he passed on.
I know it’s just a video game, but that was a good way of bringing Warrior back to the place he swore he’d never go back to. Same for Sting - WWE 2K was his introduction to WWE.
"Snap into a SlimJim"... R.I.P. Randy Savage
Keep in mind though that Randy passed 10 years ago. Bret returned in 2010, Rocky in 2011, Brock returned in 2012, Warrior in 2014 and even Jeff Jarrett returned a couple of years ago just like Goldberg did. They all had bad blood with Vince. So chances are that Randy would have returned at one point as well....unless the Stephanie rumours are true lol
This picture makes me want to see Jim Cornette dress up as Randy Savage IRL.
Buy a painting and put it up over your bed....
randy savage is trash
He took Stephanie's *Black Cherry....*
And her regular *Cherry* too! Oh Yeah, I snapped into her *Slim Trim!*
Rikardo Kbrera basically
LoL!
😂😂😂😂
DIG ITTT!!!!!! 😎💪👆
slim trim, haha thats gold
Jim's trying his hardest to avoid directly saying he thinks Macho slipped her the old Slim Jim.
Well, a lot of those guys have royalty checks they don’t wanna jeopardize, so they’re careful what they say.
@@linkbelt111 Nah, the Network has basically killed the royalty checks. Plus, Cornette isn't generally one to hold his tongue. It's more likely out of respect for Randy or Stephanie.
He is saying it by not saying it clearly..
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz I agree.. He likes the both of them..
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz CM Punk has said otherwise. He said he gets a pretty significant royalty check from WWE every 3 months.
Was weird that randy never came back when just about everyone else did. Most who left on not great terms.
As I recall shortly before he died, he did some promotional stuff for WWE (for a video game I believe?). That made me think that fences were finally mended, but he didn't live long enough to see where the relationship would go.
he signed a legends deal with WWE shortly before he died and did promotions for a new action figure from Mattel. The video is probably still on youtube somewhere from comicon when they did the surprise reveal.
m.ua-cam.com/video/hIVifMl9sgw/v-deo.html
Hall and Nash wouldn’t have been allowed back if they weren’t buddies of Triple H and Shawn. Luger, Bam Bam and Jeff Jarrett weren’t brought back either.
People who think it was Steph...seriously if Savage was with Vince's underage daughter don't you think things would've been more serious for Savage like jail? Vince took out a full page ad in I believe Time Magazine when Randy died to offer his condolences. Savage was back in the good graces of the WWE near the end. Savage is now in the HOF. Savage for years turned down the HOF unless Vince put his father and Lanny in the HOF. After he died, Lanny went against his wishes and I assume a ton of money was thrown his way.
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon.
@@willisapril Stephanie Bellars lies a lot. She makes up a lot of bs
Maybe it was that video of Randy talking shit about Triple H and Steph
Knowing how close the Poffo Family is, I suspect Randy never forgave Vince for not allowing his father to enter the Battle Royal. I don't think the WWF asked Randy if he ever wanted to come back because they knew he didn't. I can imagine Savage being highly offended over McMahon not granting this request. I think the graphics showing his bald spot would have upset him as well. Most of us would say, those perceived slights weren't worth the money he lost, but Randy Savage was one of a kind. By most accounts, he saved his money well and wasn't hurting. There was some contact before he passed and he was under a legends contract (I think)....time does heal all wounds.
Randy in WCW 95/96 was Awesome! But then they wasted his talent in the NWO . Randy didn't need a Gang, he was better on his own or with two guys like Sting and Luger. That brief( 2 times) periods when Randy was With Sting was the best for me as they are both in my top 5.
J Crash haha 😂 nice joke
I like how he doesn't directly say one of the reasons Vince was pissed at Savage
Damn Jim confirming the Steph rumor IMO with this answer. Such a political response from Cornette is so against his demeanor, but you know he is morally respectful in his core. He would never disrespect another man’s daughter at the behest of wrestling lore gossip and fans curiosity.
Had to be Steph
Opinion: McMahon didn't mind Savage leaving, I believe he told Vince they'd still reap the slim jim rewards together, WWF was hemorrhaging money at the time, he got to WCW and handed those rewards to Bischoff, McMahon was crushed.
Was the Slim Jim deal really that big?
@@dang2320 I heard it was 7 figures from Bischoff's podcast
This would be the bone in question brothers....
Stephanie
I heard the commercial he did for WWE ALLSTARS was the beginning of a return for him to WWE, but he died before it was finalized.
I never knew that commercial existed. I just went to watch it, and I can almost guarantee you that he would have signed a WWE Legends contract to make some appearances if he hadn't done so already. And he'd definitely be more entertaining on commentary than the current clowns they have trying their best at "storytelling". While we're at it, imagine how much more entertianing the Michael Cole heel gimmick would have been against Randy Savage instead of Jerry Lawler. You'd have way better promos, and Randy could have just kicked the crap out of Swagger and then crushed Cole like a soda can in their match at Wrestlemania (if it weren't for his heart problem).
all it would've been was a single raw appearance to squash Heath Slater in 2012 for the lead up to Raw 1000 like all the other legends did
He was under a Legends deal at the time of his death. He died just before the first action figure released. He was supposed to do a ton of promotion for Mattel, too.
Let's be honest the reason why is bc of the supposed Randy/Stephanie thing.
Steph was cute at the time and 17 isn't all that bad as much as the outraged society has made millions believe.
Hello police, this comment right here^^.
Since Macho is on the other side, I wish Stephanie can confirm if the rumors are true.
Randy and Steph is false and has been false from.the start. Besides, how do we know that it wasnt Savage who refused to come back.to WWE? Point is that there is just no evidence of the Savage Stephanie thing. Especially when everyone who was actually around Randy at the time this would have happened can't even place Randy and Steph ever having even been alone together or even in each others company at all.
My personal opinion is,it never happened!! But enough people believe it did,that had he taken him back,he'd have looked horrible! Whether true or not.
Hogan testified in court directly against Vince McMahon...and Vince moved on. Warrior walked out on him...so did Austin. Vince moved on. The Stephanie rumors must be true.
Macho Man did return to the WWE in 2011 right before he passed. He made the commercial for WWE All Stars watch?v=hIVifMl9sgw
But too many marks fantasize about popping someone's cherry...
It’s pretty obvious from watching numerous interviews and his documentary, he didn’t want to go back. He didn’t like that Vince thought of him as old and wouldn’t let him wrestle. And then when he went to WCW they made fun of his bald spot and that was a really sensitive topic for him.
This is the best thumbnail on the Internet.
Hey Jim, please do a shoot on Macho Man's first WWF title run.. Always seemed to me hogan took half Randy's spotlight at the time.. your thoughts would be interesting cheers
She was just Stephanie Mc before experiencing Macho MAN. He put the MAN in McMahon. OOOOOOOOOH, YEAAAAAAAH!!!
Was he slipping his "Slim Jim" deep up inside her "Wrapper"?
@@ronaldshank7589 OOOOH, YEAH! After all... sky's the limit and (her) space is the place!
@@Guycodeacademypage Yeah...but apparently, her space wasn't the place he shoulda been! I'll bet he found that out the hard way!
Because Stephanie...um...."Snapped into a Slim Jim"?
And, Slim Jim is STILL using Macho for their advertising, it’s awesome to see them!
Apparently Macho Man was in talks to come back in 2011 around the time WWE All Stars came out. But he passed away before they could get him on TV
Yea there is a trailer for the game that you can find on UA-cam still with Macho Man in it
@travelling man Just not an in-ring return, though. He was already past his prime in the late 90's. And had been retired for a number years..
@ I wonder if Savage would have taken a job on commentary, had he not died?
Macho did come back. He made the commercial for WWE All Stars watch?v=hIVifMl9sgw
@ Mostly it was his hip that went from years of elbow drops.
Its why he started hurting people with it.
He was landing on them to take the strain off his ass cheek.
He sort of came back. He did a promo for one of the video games
He showed Stephanie his macho madness ooooh yaaah dig it. RIP Randy
It runs much deeper than Slim Jim. Other guys/gals have left with far worse heat and came back. Savage had Chyna-level heat. Not bringing him back to TV in the years that followed WCW shutting down was one thing. But, keeping him out of the HoF until after his death, and then having the gall to get Hogan of all people to "induct" him.....
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
It sounds like he’s saying macho man boned Stephanie
Josh Moore- *He did* ...in the ass-hole so that she would *still be a virgin* upon inspection. Vince found-out years later.
@travelling man - Probably.
@Jaqua Brown - *No shit Sherlock.*
@@CARTOONIVERSE1 why would Vince have her inspected? it's hardly Afghanistan.
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 -That trick has been used by *rich girls* to fool their parents forever. Vince knows wrestlers are creeps.
Why oh why, didn’t Seattle run the ball.
Same reason The Mets didn't start George .Stone in game six of the 1973 World Series up 3-2 vs the A's. And moved up Seaver and Matlock on short rest and lost two close games and the series. Mets fans still moaning 47 years later lol.
Because it was rigged.
Because they had 2 more tries to get it in. That was a throw away play. They figured throw one. If we don't get it. Run it on the next one. They weren't expecting an interception in that situation.
I would say they were on their way to reconciling. Compare how, a couple years after Randy's death, Warrior appeared in WWE 2K14 and his deal at that time was with 2K, not WWE. A year later he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, reconciled with Vince, etc. In 2010 or 2011, Randy made a deal with Mattel to have figures made. Had he lived, I have to assume he would have eventually done the HOF (Vince was at least willing to sign off on a Macho Man figure, which was progress). And if not (due to his insistence on his father's inclusion as a requirement), he at least would have appeared in some other context. It's bittersweet to imagine him as the big surprise on a Legends/Reunion episode of Raw, or even just sitting down with Steamboat to do a UA-cam/commentary video of their WrestleMania III match. Actually it just hurts.
Also, it's important to note that WWE DID reach out to Randy, and he declined the HOF more than once-insisting that his dad would have to be inducted, too (as I mentioned above). So this may have more to do with Vince's change of approach (over the years) in dealing with estranged former wrestlers, and the bad timing of Randy's death, than Randy having committed the unforgivable.
All that said, I'm just as curious as anyone else to know if "it" happened...
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon. But I had always heard Randy Saved all his money and never spent a time and was set for life and never needed to come back to the WWE as many others did becaused they needed the money.
Boning his daughter probably had a smidge to do with it
if that story is true wouldn't steph been a minor?
If there's grass on the field ... play ball
@@supermanXL Steph would of been 17 at the time with the age of consent being 16 in Connecticut
@@leir2005 can y'all stop. leave kids alone.
I'm surprised anything gets in the way of Vince making money, even that.
Always thought randy savage was going to end up being revealed asthe anonymous raw gm
C.G D I always suspected the GM was Cole since he was the only one allowed to speak for them.
Macho Man never went back because Vince wouldn't have been able to stand seeing his son-in-law get whooped in a shoot by the legendary brother Leapin' Lanny.
Never heard of Lanny being a tough guy but I wouldn't sell Triple H short. Remember he was trained by Killer Kowalski
Many people forget that randy could of been back before he passed away but continued to say no to the hall of fame because he wanted his whole family in.
I think he died just before they could officially bring him back. If i'm not mistaken they started to have a working relationship a few months before. I find it hard to believe, with all of the Legends they have singed to deals, that Savage would still be out of the loop.
I never believed the rumor about Savage and Steph. It didn’t start until after Randy saying what he would do to Steph to mock HHH and Vince in 2001. He never said he did, he said he would. I just think it grew legs of its own.
He did say that he "would give her a kiss for old time's sake".
They is an interview on UA-cam with Randy's WCW girlfriend Gorgeous George ( her born name is Stephanie as well) and she said in that interview Randy wanted to have a three way relationship with her and her seventeen year old sister. It's on UA-cam somewhere, look it up of you have the time.
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon.
@@1981CrueHead Stephanie Bellars tells a lot of obviously BS stories. Her sister was not even underage when they broke up, but was 19. She also broke up with him because she started dating someone else
I thought it was the Stephanie McMahon thing
John Alexander stop believing everything you read
That's what Jim is alluding to, James Dixon thinks it that reason. He just knows better than to actually say it and get sued by Vince.
@ well yeah you're probably right there, and when you consider the amount of outrageous comments Jim has made over the years, to not say it leads me to believe they've been told in the past they'd be facing legal action if they did
That is a myth.
The Steph thing couldn't have been true because they signed him to a Legends deal a few weeks before he died and he did a commercial promo for WWE All-Stars. If the Steph thing was true we never would've seen that.
I find it odd that no one has floated the idea that Savage didn't want to go back and held a grudge against Vince for moving him away from being a wrestler. I mean to the day he died he was angry his dad wasn't involved in some legends battle royal in the mid 80s.
Money is the fastest way to make amends. I think it was a mutual thing. Both were bitter by slights and screw overs and I don't think either one trusted or wanted to do business with the other.
No doubt about it, Randy sure liked his Stephanies. 1: Stephanie McMahon, 2: Stephanie Bellars/AKA 'Gorgeous George'.
Very possible it was about the slim Jim deal, Bundy was never forgiven for doing the Kraft advert either.
Vince is funny like that
I take solace in the fact he DID comeback for a legends deal and got to see that at least, even if was a small thing it was better then nothing.
I always wondered what kind of pop he would of gotten if he attacked hogan at one of his return matches or during the 02 nWo storyline
Macho did do the wwe superstars video game commercial so he may have been working on something before his death
Does anyone think the animated Jim looks like the Living Legend, Larry Z?
Ha a little bit
R.i.p. Randy savage still my favorite wrestler
Here's a question for you, how about telling some Bobby Eaton stories. I was surprised to find out recently that I'm friends with one of his sons and since I was always a fan of the Midnight Express I thought it'd be cool to know a little more about his Dad.
He has told probably 5 hours of Bobby Eaton stories across the hundreds of podcasts so far, watch some of the older ones.
@@quigglyjohnston6118 I had something a little more personal in mind. I feel kinda bad asking Mike anything.
Pretty much confirmed it for me..it was the Stephaine thing
Sitting in the hospital bed right now listening to my favorite people in podcasting Jim Cornette and THEEEEE Great Brian Last when the nurse comes in and forces me to eat lunch. So out of respect to Jimmy C. I ordered the first thing I could think of......Double Cheeseburger, EXTRA CHEESE and nothing else on them. Shout out to Cornette and Last.
Get well soon, man.
Trinath Behara thanks.
He never returned because the late great Randy Savage banged Stephanie. Once Vince disrespected Angelo poffo by not inviting him in a Legends battle royal. He made it personal. Randy savage did the right thing. Dig It.
I think part of it was Randy just didn't have any interest at the time to go back to WWE
I read he tried going back around 2000 but JR (rightfully) felt he wasn't needed at the time.
Watch some of the clips of Macho being interviewed in the early 2000s. He was looking for work and seemed like he would've jumped at the chance.
@@hunter371wanting work and wanting to work with specific company are two different things my man I could want to work in the Soda industry but not want to work at Coca Cola.
@@quentinkaasa47See in 2000 I mean he might not have been the best of workers anymore but as a manager he would have still been pure fire.
Lanny said the deal with ConAgra played a big part in the fallot, Nash said they wanted him to be the SJ guy but he told them go to WCW and use Savage.
is this a fact?
@@JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn Kevin Nash said it, so take it with a grain of salt. Macho had a personality and an image, Nash not so much. So I think they were wanting Macho all along
The cream rose to the top and went inside Stephanie McMahon.
Lmao
Macho man should have gone to wwf in late 1999 to 2002 era when he got roided up and big as hell. He looked like a freaking tank. Imagine a 2000s macho with 2 girls on his arm, badass biker gear cutting promos with SCSA or The Rock?
@Patriot 13 yezzir!
@J Crash idk man he looked worse in the mid 90s. He had a flabby deflated body from losing muscle. His hairline receded and he had that long flap of hair like hogan. He looked much better with the sheer hair pony tail, trinned beard and bigger muscles
Because just like with slim jim, Stephanie needed a little excitement.
Not gonna lie if he did get to press Stephanie he's a lucky guy.
No, he would’ve been a sex offender.
@@fredfreeman2515 shit how old was Stephanie when the rumours took place that he slept with her?
in 96 she would have been 20 years old. 97 she would have been 21. 95 she would have been 18. Not sure what the rules are over there but 18 is the legal consenting age over here in the U.K. So anything after 95 wouldn't make him a sex offender. Now if you are referring to the huge age gap, then yes I agree it doesn't look good for Savage. All I'm saying though is Stephanie Mcmahon is hot! HHH has done well for himself.
@@alexanderanderson6605 he left in 94. Like literally a month after her 18th birthday. Say what you will.
@@fredfreeman2515 alright 94 time period is very fishy if he and her did sleep together at that time. Could be questions of grooming or generally could just be Stephanie being rebellious and sleeping with one of her fave wrestlers. It's why we are drawn to wrestling, it's such a crazy world of characters you can't help but be drawn to it.
Is it fact that Vince never invited Macho back, and Macho just refused?
carefully chosen & arranged words & a smooth save, proves nothing but says a lot.
The books which Jim mentioned are really good (so anyone who's not read them knows, they are named Titan Sinking, Titan Shattered and Titan Screwed).
Trashy Rumors are like Farts, everyone emits them, everyone says they don't, they all smell, and in the end all they are is stinky wind. Maybe Randy had a thing with teenage Stephanie, who knows, nobody has said either way. Then again maybe he didn't return to the WWE after the buyout simply because he didn't want to, maybe the WWE doesn't talk about him for the same reason they don't talk about Don Muraco or Tito Santana, there's just no reason to.
Bischoff once said those commercials paid WCW 750k a month
I remember being pissed for years that WWE wouldn't put Randy in the Hall Of Fame, only to find out Randy was the one against it. Maybe Randy not returning had nothing to do with any heat he may have had with Vince.
Stephanie loves the Macho Man's Slim Jim.
Randy’s girlfriend Gorgeous George confirmed the Stephanie/Randy rumor on a few videos. Randy was doing drugs at the time and told her one night when he was high. Randy said it was mutual but Stephanie was underage at the time. Vince found out about it three years after the fact. If Stephanie was as young as it seems, no doubt Vince never forgave him.
It was what he obviously did to Steph in her younger years that McMahon was mad about.... it that simple.
Yeah, the way the lack of answers always arrive from this question, it leans heavily toward Steph doing the nasty with Macho.....I'm actually kind of impressed with Randy, it's like Cersei and Jamie having a relationship on Game of Thrones....it's the world's "worst kept secret"
I also heard that if it happened steph looked for it. Rumors of how shed flirt with wrestlers in the back were common. Maybe vince needed a tighter leash on that bxtch
Stephanie was snapping into Machos slim jim with her teeth!
The macho Man never came back to the WWF because he screwed Stephanie McMahon when she was 17 years old he knock the bottom out of it
Vince could forgive a lot of things for the sake of business, but not that Randy lured...
Lanny Poffo away to WCW.
LOL!!!!
Hahaha hilarious!!
Cornette looks like Zbysco in the thumbnail.
From what bischoff has said savage was the easiest contact to get because slimjim came with him and that covered either the first year or 2years I can't remember exactly
Randy Savage could steal a show. Coming back to WWE he would have taken the spotlight away from other guys McMahon wanted to push so McMahon likely would have tried to bury him on the roster. Perhaps do to Savage what he did to Sting. You treated Savage right or he would not come at all. I also heard that McMahon just did not want to do business with Savage perhaps because of the control or lack there of he would have. Vince McMahon is a guy who feels he has to show you who is boss. He took Hogan back, Hogan had done favors for McMahon, locker room snitch, things like that. He didn't take the Warrior back, just put him in the Hall of Fame as he finally did Savage. One thing you can say about Randy Savage is he made himself what he was in the business. No thanks to McMahon or anyone else, not even the guys he wrestled. Elizabeth never overshadowed Savage either. Perfect heel, perfect face, whatever you needed to use him for. All from a guy who wasn't even six feet tall or 220 pounds. "Snap into a Slim Jim Yeah" that product never ever had anyone promote that product nearly that well ever. Of course, the product wasn't much of anything at all. I would only pick it up by the checkout counter because it makes me think of Savage, still does. I would never buy or eat one. In wrestling the encore or remake is never usually as good as the original run. Never as long either. Savage might have been different and broken the mold. From what I could tell he no longer needed the McMahon's or WWE.
it wasn't Stephanie, he came off the top bed post with Linda.
Awesome Shoot Jim!!😎🐐🐐
If he actually had an affair with Stephanie there’s no way he’d be in the Hall of Fame or video games. Think people.. There’s others that never came back either and I’m sure if Savage was alive still he would’ve been back by now. Just look at the Ultimate Warrior he came back
Maybe Vince actually believed that Savage slept with Stephanie.
Ooooh yeah!
Lol. Great art Travis. As always. Wish he had the hat tho. Lmao
Corny forgot to add that both Savage and Hogan still had beef with each other, so as long as Hogan was still showing up on WWE television, Savage wouldn't. Plus Savage had pretty much retired at that point after his disaster of an appearance and match in NWA TNA that time lol
Nah. Hogan’s an idiot and manipulative but it was something way more serious than hogan.
You can't spell "Stephanie McMahon" without T-H-E- M-A-C-H-O-M-A-N-P-E-N-I-S!
Well I know one thing, Savage did literally just up and leave without telling anyone meanwhile Vince McMahon was expecting to see Savage that week on Raw sitting right next to him on commentary.
It's the Stephanie thing. I'm absolutely convinced it was the Stephanie thing. Quite often, the most obvious scenario is the correct one.
not really
This only fans the flames of that "deflowering" of Stephanie Mcmahon rumor...
Ohhhh yeaaahhhh, love the podcast Jim! You the man! Always will be. My favorite episode was when you talked about that 22 patty hamburger at wendy's haha that was super funny!
Leave the Stephanie thing alone and look at this rationally from Randy's POV. You tell the man he's too old and put him behind a desk but immediately beg Hogan to come back and embarrass your current main event stars. You bury his creative ideas to build new stars and then pin the company on the very guy he wanted you to push to begin with (HBK). And then for the next decade, you watch him bring back old enemies to "bury the hatchet" and creatively shit on them: Bret Hart's return, the Ultimate Warrior DVD, ECW and Paul Heyman as a whole in 2006. Guys like Luger, Vader, Rude, MISS ELIZABETH, etc. not being in the HOF at the time. A proud man like Savage want gonna yield.
My thing is if there was so much "heat" on Randy, why give him a championship challenge against Yokozuna in '93? Granted we knew who was gonna win, but if he had backstage heat why give him a title opportunity in the first place? I mean why even put him in a title challenge. Yokozuna was on a huge run (besides the Hogan change at WM IX?) He would've had the title undefeated for a whole year before losing it back to bret at WMX. If Randy was supposed to be pushed as an announcer why give him a title opportunity? To prove he doesn't "have it" anymore (which obviously he did showing his WCW run with 4 championships with the company)
I like how Corny left it...the question wasn't just begging but pleading much like you know who probably did.
I love the artwork!!!