Dude this awesome. You're my hero! I have a 2000 SC Buick Regal and I am going to replace the SC with a turbo and I am going to push that little 3800 to it's limits. Given that the block is designed very similar to the Buick Stage 2 race block. Thus far the only issue cropping up with this block is with too much boost the head gaskets leak and the heads need to be fire ringed. Good luck and please keep keep us posted.
This build looks so awesome man, and you even welding your own parts is highly respectable, have fun with her! And hopefully you can get it fixed and even faster
God the engine bay actually can have room! Even with the Turbo!! I'm comparing to the LT1 I have lol. I always wanted a 3.8 it's been a long time since I've worked on one or been in one. Love the car!
Are you planning on going with aftermarket rods, some forged ones? I meant to say in my other post, with forged pistons, rods and a good tune I have yet to see a 3800 block give up. I am pretty sure this block would be in the high 7's if the aftermarket support was there.
Pretty cool. Sourcing parts for a NA Miata with turbo l36 power plant. T5 out of the F body puts the shifter just about where it needs to be. It fits the tunnel with no hammering. And doesn’t make so much torque that’s I have to worry about the rear end. Just need to add a brace and it’s good to go.
@@hakujyan still just a bunch of parts collecting dust in the garage. Being a dad and being in the military get in the way of building stuff. But I went the supercharger route as it’s cheaper and easier with this engine.
@@hakujyan yea, the no fabrication approach is what really sells it for me. If you can bolt parts on, you can build it. The Miata power plant does have its limits, mainly in the rear end. They sell reinforcement for it but you can also directly bolt in an rx7 rear and end they’re quite a bit stronger. The transmission is good for any realistic amount of power the 3.8 is going to throw at it, so long as you upgrade the clutch. And the engine almost seems like it was supposed to go in there. I’ve heard guys use the factory sub frame and just drill holes to accept the 3.8 mounts, but even if it doesn’t work out, there’s plenty of universal cradles for the Miata and they’re pretty cheap.
I've never been much into F bodies but I l love that setup and the fact that it's so spacious. was the Grand National or GNX your inspiration to go with a turbo V6?
Honestly I didn’t know about grand nationals till I was neck deep in this project. My inspiration was my friends in their silverados drifting around and I couldn’t get sideways with my lack of decent power and open diff. Now it’s opened up a whole world of opportunity and I love doing this stuff but it all started very small, I wasn’t grown up around hot rods and shops like a lot of the guys out there. However now I like the grand national a lot and I do go on grand national forums sometimes to see how those guys approach things that the guys with the later 3.8’s haven’t even touched the surface of yet
could you go into more detail about the vacuum port setup? i wasnt 100% sure if that is the map sensor, i bought a f-body intake and it had the sensor removed and whatever else with it and just got the bare part. swapping it on a l36 thats in a 86 fiero
Tuning with hptuners? Do You run narrowband o2s and a wideband o2? Love the ls throttle body adapter and the meth nozzle location where the egr went. Going to be doing similar things with my 3800 soon so it’s nice to see other ideas as info is limited with this platform. If you don’t mind sharing your hptuners tune file if that’s what you use I’d love to look it over.
My question is since you threw a rod & the block is toast ,we're are you going to find a block that will bolt up to the TH400,? The early blocks from the 76~80 that were in the Buick sky Hawk had different transmission patterns and the starter was on the passenger side of the block . But GM modified the 3.8, 231so many times so now can you transfer a series lll block into the camera.? I think about this problem so many times because the starter could interfer with the cluch pivot and linkage on manual apps unless you get a hydraulic clutch . And will your TH400 simply bolt up to the 3800 series lll? It would be cool to see you fit that supercharger into the camaro body and mod the hood for cowl induction similar to the 70~72 Chevelles .Or fab up bug catcher slot at the base of the center of the windshield right where there's that high pressure compression zone. Believe me, I've thought about building a 07 GTP with rear wheel drive .Kinda like the 87 buick GNx,but without the turbo .hey if you could find a good 87 grand prix diner car and cut out the transmission tunnel sheet metal with the complete cowl and floor boards,yup that would be a lot of work and fun to see you work your way through the complications. But the potential fun factor would be outrageous. That's why the 67~69 cameras where great .You could un bolt the sub frame and put it on slider rails to move the complete engine to and frow for clearances checking. But I like to see you young men tackle these creative ideas.
I have a th400 adapter plate and yes it all bolts up to series 2 or 3 with that plate. Motor is built and in the car just a couple weeks of fab work left to get it driving again. I’ll make an update video to answer more questions and show what I’m doing with the car Monday
Hey-ey-ey Come on try a little Nothing is forever Got to be something better than in the middle Me and Cinderella We put it all together We can drive it home With one headlight
@@morboost4224 Nice. This should be easier to install & maintain. Please keep me posted as I am very interested in your work. I'm also going to need a tuner
Dude. Great work. I just picked up 97 3800 and would love to do something like this. My brother has a 00 and my friend had a 02. We're all trying to boost our vehicles by a turbocharger. How many HP have you been able to pull from this engine? I want to go full build
I had great luck using Intense racing's stage 2 N/A cam and some head work. Threw on some cheap pace setter headers and a dynomax muffler with a K&N filter. I was able to keep up with my neighbors GTP all day long.
Is it a series 2 or 3 ? I’m planning on getting a 3.8 rs camaro with the series 2 and don’t wanna have to find a series 3 to swap to unless I have too this is my “budget” build before I go all out on a firebird 383 stroker so I’m trying to go as cheap as I can, could I just swap the internals over?
Series 2 and 3 blocks are identical as far as bore size, deck height, etc. I’ve had both series 2 and 3 blocks in this car. you should be able to swap parts over no problem. Series 2 parts will hold 450hp or so for quite some time but much over that you need series 3 internals or aftermarket parts. The stock series 3 is commonly pushed around 600hp or so. Built bottom ends usually don’t live long above 700hp, have seen a few well over 1000hp but they don’t live long. That’s just too much hp per cubic inch at that point. It’s like making 1500hp with a 350 Chevy. It can be done but don’t expect it to live long up there
I’ve seen 99 camaro with 3.8 5 speed manual. I’m kinda new into driving and wanna learn manual, it has like 90k miles for 2,500. Idk if I should go for it
@@morboost4224 i want to start building my 99 up. Its a 3.8l but I just found out I have the start of a blown head gasket. Gonna tear it down and rebuild it solid! I'll keep a eye out on your page for updates to your ride!
@@johnscott1981 look up hp academy. The basic tuning course there will give you a very good start. I took the basic course after I had already been tuning for about a year. The way I started was just get into hp tuners forums and get trying things on my camaro then on my friends 5.3 silverado and I’ve now tuned hundreds of cars and trucks. It’s a huge learning curve but hp tuners is about the easiest tuning platform to use
@@morboost4224 I watch a lot of them and goat rope garage. I appreciate the feed back. I've played around on my g8 gt and my buddies ls swaps. Nothing too crazy though, but tuning my camaro with the turbo is gonna be a task for me at this point haha
If I had gone straight to that setup it would’ve been in the neighborhood of $10,000-$15,000, instead I’ve been through 4 versions of my build and am about $50,000 deep
@@josiahlinquist4043 youd probably be looking at $10,000 or so to imitate my build. I have about $50k into the car but that’s 4 engines, 7 transmissions, 4 turbos and lots of other things. So as long as you overbuild everything the first time you’ll save yourself some $$
If is illegal to remove your headlights and put a turbo in that place, then don't do it, and drive with safety. Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus, the Son of God, the Messiah.
I know I've seen this car on Facebook lol. Great tour. Thanks for sharing. This ol boy has got to scoot down the track pretty quick.
Me waiting for Mor to send it with 40+ psi on the next build 👁️👄👁️
👀
30 PSI for the boys
Dude this awesome. You're my hero! I have a 2000 SC Buick Regal and I am going to replace the SC with a turbo and I am going to push that little 3800 to it's limits. Given that the block is designed very similar to the Buick Stage 2 race block. Thus far the only issue cropping up with this block is with too much boost the head gaskets leak and the heads need to be fire ringed. Good luck and please keep keep us posted.
You don’t need fire ring for anything under 30psi really🤷♀️
The turbo headlight is hilarious, I love it.
When I seen the video that’s what made me click on it i was like look at those halos are sick lol glad I watched tho
Nice rig you got there. Thanks for the tour and sharing all the mods!
This build looks so awesome man, and you even welding your own parts is highly respectable, have fun with her! And hopefully you can get it fixed and even faster
God the engine bay actually can have room! Even with the Turbo!! I'm comparing to the LT1 I have lol. I always wanted a 3.8 it's been a long time since I've worked on one or been in one. Love the car!
Well done!
I love the 3800’s I respect this build
Nice build I love it
Nice work 😎👍
I'm excited to see what the next one will do!
This is pretty sick
Nice to see something other than a LS!
I like this video! You’re not all secretive about it like most self built fast guys out there
It's a beautiful mess. I love it for its all the homemade killin performance cars at higher cost
Love it !
Hell yeah brother🤟😂
Man there’s a ton of room in that engine bay, not bad for a turbo swap at all
as much as I love sbc n lsx swaps this is pretty cool for a change
Awesome man! Hows boost response? What RPM are you you hitting target boost and what PSI?
Are you planning on going with aftermarket rods, some forged ones? I meant to say in my other post, with forged pistons, rods and a good tune I have yet to see a 3800 block give up. I am pretty sure this block would be in the high 7's if the aftermarket support was there.
It’s got molar rods and speed pro pistons now. Going for big boy power now
Pretty cool. Sourcing parts for a NA Miata with turbo l36 power plant. T5 out of the F body puts the shifter just about where it needs to be. It fits the tunnel with no hammering. And doesn’t make so much torque that’s I have to worry about the rear end. Just need to add a brace and it’s good to go.
How'd that turn out?
@@hakujyan still just a bunch of parts collecting dust in the garage. Being a dad and being in the military get in the way of building stuff. But I went the supercharger route as it’s cheaper and easier with this engine.
Okay I feel you on that. I have a miata and I'm getting a F body 3.8, don't know if I'll swap the miata but it's cool that things fit
@@hakujyan yea, the no fabrication approach is what really sells it for me. If you can bolt parts on, you can build it.
The Miata power plant does have its limits, mainly in the rear end. They sell reinforcement for it but you can also directly bolt in an rx7 rear and end they’re quite a bit stronger.
The transmission is good for any realistic amount of power the 3.8 is going to throw at it, so long as you upgrade the clutch.
And the engine almost seems like it was supposed to go in there. I’ve heard guys use the factory sub frame and just drill holes to accept the 3.8 mounts, but even if it doesn’t work out, there’s plenty of universal cradles for the Miata and they’re pretty cheap.
what modification did you make to the stock pcv system other than the catch can?
Wow. Just wow. That’s is all
I've never been much into F bodies but I l love that setup and the fact that it's so spacious. was the Grand National or GNX your inspiration to go with a turbo V6?
Honestly I didn’t know about grand nationals till I was neck deep in this project. My inspiration was my friends in their silverados drifting around and I couldn’t get sideways with my lack of decent power and open diff. Now it’s opened up a whole world of opportunity and I love doing this stuff but it all started very small, I wasn’t grown up around hot rods and shops like a lot of the guys out there. However now I like the grand national a lot and I do go on grand national forums sometimes to see how those guys approach things that the guys with the later 3.8’s haven’t even touched the surface of yet
could you go into more detail about the vacuum port setup? i wasnt 100% sure if that is the map sensor, i bought a f-body intake and it had the sensor removed and whatever else with it and just got the bare part. swapping it on a l36 thats in a 86 fiero
That vac port is indeed where the map goes in stock form, I wasn’t running a map tho
The space between the engine and radiator is comical
Tuning with hptuners? Do You run narrowband o2s and a wideband o2? Love the ls throttle body adapter and the meth nozzle location where the egr went. Going to be doing similar things with my 3800 soon so it’s nice to see other ideas as info is limited with this platform. If you don’t mind sharing your hptuners tune file if that’s what you use I’d love to look it over.
I do use hp tuners and wouldn’t mind at all sharing my tune file. Just know I use an lt1 maf and have a 78mm turbo
@@morboost4224 awesome . Send me your file and any more info you can share about the setup to ericmatthewthomas@gmail.com . Appreciate it sir.
@@morboost4224howdy. Are you still willing to share the tune file?
what throttle body did you use?
My question is since you threw a rod & the block is toast ,we're are you going to find a block that will bolt up to the TH400,?
The early blocks from the 76~80 that were in the Buick sky Hawk had different transmission patterns and the starter was on the passenger side of the block . But GM modified the 3.8, 231so many times so now can you transfer a series lll block into the camera.?
I think about this problem so many times because the starter could interfer with the cluch pivot and linkage on manual apps unless you get a hydraulic clutch . And will your TH400 simply bolt up to the 3800 series lll?
It would be cool to see you fit that supercharger into the camaro body and mod the hood for cowl induction similar to the 70~72 Chevelles .Or fab up bug catcher slot at the base of the center of the windshield right where there's that high pressure compression zone.
Believe me, I've thought about building a 07 GTP with rear wheel drive .Kinda like the 87 buick GNx,but without the turbo .hey if you could find a good 87 grand prix diner car and cut out the transmission tunnel sheet metal with the complete cowl and floor boards,yup that would be a lot of work and fun to see you work your way through the complications. But the potential fun factor would be outrageous. That's why the 67~69 cameras where great .You could un bolt the sub frame and put it on slider rails to move the complete engine to and frow for clearances checking.
But I like to see you young men tackle these creative ideas.
I have a th400 adapter plate and yes it all bolts up to series 2 or 3 with that plate. Motor is built and in the car just a couple weeks of fab work left to get it driving again. I’ll make an update video to answer more questions and show what I’m doing with the car Monday
Hey-ey-ey
Come on try a little
Nothing is forever
Got to be something better than in the middle
Me and Cinderella
We put it all together
We can drive it home
With one headlight
Following your channel. Where I'm going, you already came from
Haha everybody’s gotta start somewhere. Working on a procharged efi sbc setup in the same Camaro now
@@morboost4224 Nice. This should be easier to install & maintain. Please keep me posted as I am very interested in your work. I'm also going to need a tuner
I wish Chevy and Pontiac would have made these Turbo charged from Factory with a Tremac 6 Spd Manual and these would have been the car to drive.
Dude. Great work. I just picked up 97 3800 and would love to do something like this. My brother has a 00 and my friend had a 02. We're all trying to boost our vehicles by a turbocharger. How many HP have you been able to pull from this engine? I want to go full build
I had great luck using Intense racing's stage 2 N/A cam and some head work. Threw on some cheap pace setter headers and a dynomax muffler with a K&N filter. I was able to keep up with my neighbors GTP all day long.
After watching this im going to turbo grannys 1998 intrigue 3.8 series 2
did you just delete the windshield wipers? 😆
How did it do at the track?
Any updates?
Is it a series 2 or 3 ? I’m planning on getting a 3.8 rs camaro with the series 2 and don’t wanna have to find a series 3 to swap to unless I have too this is my “budget” build before I go all out on a firebird 383 stroker so I’m trying to go as cheap as I can, could I just swap the internals over?
Series 2 and 3 blocks are identical as far as bore size, deck height, etc. I’ve had both series 2 and 3 blocks in this car. you should be able to swap parts over no problem. Series 2 parts will hold 450hp or so for quite some time but much over that you need series 3 internals or aftermarket parts. The stock series 3 is commonly pushed around 600hp or so. Built bottom ends usually don’t live long above 700hp, have seen a few well over 1000hp but they don’t live long. That’s just too much hp per cubic inch at that point. It’s like making 1500hp with a 350 Chevy. It can be done but don’t expect it to live long up there
Didn't see a cat converter anywhere, is this legal?
There is none, yes it’s legal since it’s registered in flagstaff az
What about the rear end
A 3800 is like a 2JZ but funnier
What adapter plate did you use for throttle body
I welded a plate onto the intake manifold
I’ve seen 99 camaro with 3.8 5 speed manual. I’m kinda new into driving and wanna learn manual, it has like 90k miles for 2,500. Idk if I should go for it
Send it bro
@Azu Za’s dude i just snagged one for 850 just needs slave cylander tie rods tires and a starter and some window sealent
Hope you bought it, even when supercharged or turbocharged these 3.8 engines will return great mileage
Most people don't tell you where they keep their meth. This is pretty cool man. Whats the fastest you have ran with this at the track?
Never been to the track haha it wouldn’t pass tech as is, next setup will be going to the local drag strip a lot though
@@morboost4224 i want to start building my 99 up. Its a 3.8l but I just found out I have the start of a blown head gasket. Gonna tear it down and rebuild it solid! I'll keep a eye out on your page for updates to your ride!
You tune it yourself? I'm building mine with a 70mm right now. I have hp tuners so figured I'd ask. Thank you I appreciate it.
Yessir I tune lots of cars locally and remotely around the US
@@morboost4224 I'm new to tuning. What helped you learn how to use hp tuners if you don't mind me asking?
@@johnscott1981 look up hp academy. The basic tuning course there will give you a very good start. I took the basic course after I had already been tuning for about a year. The way I started was just get into hp tuners forums and get trying things on my camaro then on my friends 5.3 silverado and I’ve now tuned hundreds of cars and trucks. It’s a huge learning curve but hp tuners is about the easiest tuning platform to use
@@morboost4224 I watch a lot of them and goat rope garage. I appreciate the feed back. I've played around on my g8 gt and my buddies ls swaps. Nothing too crazy though, but tuning my camaro with the turbo is gonna be a task for me at this point haha
All the bois are here lol
Yessir we are haha. Gotta keep the 3.8’s alive🇺🇸
I thought 95s couldnt be tuned with hp tuners due to being a crossover obd1.5 or something? or did you switch the wiring/pcm for it?
They cannot be your correct. I repinned this one to 99 spec
What kind ecm?
It was factory in this video. Now it’s megasquirt pro 3
How much did this cost you?
If I had gone straight to that setup it would’ve been in the neighborhood of $10,000-$15,000, instead I’ve been through 4 versions of my build and am about $50,000 deep
What's your build's budget looking like
I’m almost 50k into 4 different versions of this car. 4 motors, 7 transmissions, 4 turbos, etc etc
I’m almost 50k into 4 different versions of this car. 4 motors, 7 transmissions, 4 turbos, etc etc
@@morboost4224 How much roughly for this specific version? I just picked up a 99 t top 3800 and am looking into a similar build
@@josiahlinquist4043 youd probably be looking at $10,000 or so to imitate my build. I have about $50k into the car but that’s 4 engines, 7 transmissions, 4 turbos and lots of other things. So as long as you overbuild everything the first time you’ll save yourself some $$
@@morboost4224 thank you. Are you running it on the 10 bolt?
Who tuned your car?
I do all my tuning😁 I tune 3.8’s, ls, lt, coyote, 2.2, 2.4, ecotec, etc
I respect what youve done for speed but why neglect the look?? You can be fast and clean
I’d rather gap a Tesla plaid looking clapped out than looking like I spent more than his life savings on looks
@@morboost4224 I guess but.. you can be fast and clean lol
You on fb or ig ?
Yessir, insta is @mor_boost
@@morboost4224
Ill reach out there 👋
Get an lt1 or ls1.
Nah bro, 3.8 ftw
Dude no joke, my ex gf is your neighbor
That’s funnyyyy😂
Are you a 3800 boi?
Lmao he’s going to try to pipe her down now 🤣🤣
TO MUCH WORK LS3 IN IT BE DONE WITH IT
Then I would be exactly like all the other guys with a f body lol
The '95 came with a 3.4l piece of junk. The 3.8 didn't come out until '97 or '98.
Sorry but your wrong. 3.8’s came in 95 cars, it’s the first year of the series 2 3.8 in camaros
If is illegal to remove your headlights and put a turbo in that place, then don't do it, and drive with safety. Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus, the Son of God, the Messiah.