Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek 2009 Review (part 1 of 2)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2015
- I had recently re-watched Star Trek so I wanted to discuss it and my thoughts on it in detail. Finally. This review is more of an analysis on the making of the film and Trek in general more than your typical Mr. Plinkett complaint-fest. Enjoy friends!
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It's really interesting watching this in 2019, where all the points about how most the movies were a sequel, reboot, remake, and about how many options of entertainment services there were. And now all of that is HYPERCHARGED.
W3rd
Gus Dario not as bad in 2020 but still bad
So not watching anything fro the last 15 years I haven't really missed anything, good to know :D
Well, I think the percentage of all movies has actually slightly decreased, it was just as noticeable then.
By current standards this seems like a masterpiece. What a difference 9 years makes. Even though, to me, it still looks like a movie that could have been made in 2020, for better or worse. It still looks great
"And....Bambi 2? WHAT THE FUCK?!"
That was my exact reaction when I heard Disney was making a Bambi 2.
"Poor Gene. So much for your peaceful vision of the future, Idiot!" i don't think i've laughed harder at a line
@@kamikazemelon787 AND EPIC SPACE BATTLES, AND KATANAS WITH SEGMENTED FOLDING BLADES, AND SHOUTING (but seriously, I actually really enjoyed this movie, and I'd say that it's a highly above average popcorn movie).
Here from the future. That line aged like fine wine.
Lol there will never be a peaceful future.
@@NCC1371 of course there will-once the humans have finally wiped each-other out in a global thermonuclear holocaust, violence and hatred will be a distant memory. I'm giving it about ten years.
Distracted Globe Productions I don’t believe that will happen either.
"Star trek the s... the star trek" lol cracks me up every time i watch this review
Hanshotfirst6688 That's funny. I was just laughing at that part when I scrolled down.
+Hanshotfirst6688 Star Wars the s... the Star Wars lol!
“Don’t make it a prequel”
3 years later
*CBS makes a prequel*
Present Day * makes it a sequel to the Prime Uni*
Jim Back
Enterprise was a prequel. Discovery is the pre-prequel
I guess the rule doesn't apply to video games. There's a TON of beloved prequels (and not just beloved for the gameplay)
Mr. Plinkett is a goddamn genius. Sure he's funny, but he also actually teaches people many aspects of movie making. He's trounced the arguments of The Nostalgia Critic, who appears to have no connection to the deeper levels of story narrative or the process of movie creation. fine, fine work.
Nostalgia Critic is cringe a.f bruh
+Exmortis Lunarcop Cringe is an effective description for The Nostalgia Critic. I feel you on that.
+wetlazer I used to enjoy Nostalgia Critic, but definitely noticed his not-so-great understanding of movies (and film writing in general) when he wrote a review with the belief that Last Action Hero was a 100% serious action film.
+Amy Santiago He is a bit of a dullard, I'm sorry to say.
he a straight fuck nigga
Spock is the key to all this
If we get Spock working. Because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before.
kevl17 He's stylistically designed to be that way
Anthony Talamantes He's so dense, there's so much going on in every frame he's in...
***** Ooh, ooh, ooh, I got ma parachute pants on...
J'avo Whiffer he's the funniest Spock we've ever had.
One of the funniest parts of the Plinkett reviews is when he shows a clip of someone talking and then ?????????? appear at the bottom of the screen. That shit always makes me laugh.
Yeah it's great
All I get out of this is,
It's Harry Plinkett's fault we got the Star Wars Sequels, because he said J.J. Abrams would be great at directing Star Wars,
And it's also Harry Plinkett's fault we got Star Trek Discovery because he liked Star Trek '09 because it was "fresh" and "action-packed"
Harry Plinkett is truly the most diabolical villain of all!
Rich Evans: How does it feel to have lived long enough for your own alter ego to bring every franchise you love down in flames?
Duncan Van Ooyen no see everyone was doing fine when they followed Plinkett’s advice and hired JJ. It was only when they derailed and hired his other son, Rian Johnson that everything got mucked up.
Mike is truly his own undoing
NOBODY could've possibly seen what was coming several years down the line..
That being said, even I moderately enjoyed the J.J. Abrams Star Trek "reboot" but it ran out of steam after that first movie.
Directing Star Wars; Yes. WRITING Star Wars; Nnnnooooooooooooooooooo!
"Let's move on to uUUUUhr"
It has been 11 years since Star Trek 2009, and original movies that aren't reboots, remakes, reimaginings, sequels, or spin offs, are still in the minority. Nothing has changed.
Not true at all-it's gotten _much_ worse.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy You could argue that intensifying isn't really changing, but the end result is I wish it'd stayed the same so you know what? Yeah, you're right, I WISH I was right about it.
Original movies in terms of blockbusters, sure. But you guys act as though a million original smaller movies don’t come out every year, which they do. They vastly outnumber the blockbuster remakes
@@cheezyfilmsproductions1842 That's true, sadly I'm not interested enough in them. I do like arthouse and other smaller types of films sometimes but they have their own set of problems and honestly I'm just of the same mindset as people like RLM and others of their age group(despite being about 10 years younger) where I just miss the golden age of blockbusters from the late 70s to early 90s.
@@ElectricBarrier "arthouse and other smaller types of films"
You do know that arthouse style is like, 1% of smaller indie films right? I'm with Cheezy here, there's a nearly infinite amount of original and great indie movie with unique premises, takes, and stories. The problem are that most people don't actually care about "original" films, they just care about big budget films from Hollywood.
So all of the originality that exists doesn't get financially supported, so less originality is successful, and thus Hollywood follows suit.
Every single person that complains about a lack of original movies should be putting their entertainment money into buying indie films from independent creators/small studios. if everyone actually did that, the Hollywood problem would ALSO solve itself. Even if Hollywood kept not being original, the indie creators would finally have enough money to increase their budgets and get even better.
The only reason why I don't like the fact that they rebooted Star Trek was because we were 10 movies into the original saga, and just two away from getting Star Trek XII: So Very Tired.
And now in 2020 we have Star Trex: Picard: The Very Tired With Gritty Action
@@BTAL1ama I fail to see how star trek Picard was an action show. Its seemed more like a mystery and a character study than a shoot em up series
@@JK-gp2rh 4 mos later... Bang! ZOOM! Kapowie!!!
STP is peanut gallery drivel for people who think they're more sophiscated than they really are. Just like STD.
@@badlaamaurukehu Star Trek: Picard is the most disappointing thing since myself
I saw an interview with Gene Roddenberry's kid who was, for awhile, crusading for his fathers original intentions behind Star Trek. In the interview he was invited to the set of the new Star Trek and talked to JJ Abrams. I can only imagine how the conversation went. Did JJ know that the kid wished his fathers work would just be honored as intended, or was he just happy to be there seeing Star Trek return? To be fair Gene's vision was only, truly, good under the constraints and collaboration he was forced to work with. But, slowly Star Trek would move to something further from his vision of adventure in space by an enlightened and hopeful humanity. Not all the following Trek was bad, but it was further from this idea. At the moment, I can recognize almost nothing in common with that vision in the newest vision of Star Trek. Otherwise, I completely agree with Mr. Plinkett (Mike).
Now, STD's and retarded Picards and cheap dimwitted CalArts garbage.
One would think people don't want that kind of thing that makes you think... But I still remember how packed the theater was with Interestelar.
When I go to grad school I'm going to write my thesis on The Plinkett Equation .
Part of what irked me so badly about the Timeline/Reboot thing was, when the movie came out (At least in my region), they didn't fess up to it. All the advertising and trailers they were showing locally to me played it up as a straight up prequel to the original series. The first hint at all that it was a reboot was when I entered the theater and saw Kirk's father die in the first 10 minutes.
It was a shock, and not a pleasant one as it was a bait and switch.
And it never really recovered from that for me. Because Abrams didn't really want to make a Star Trek movie, as it showed. He wanted to make an action movie which... isn't why I go to see Star Trek. This isn't to say Trek can't have action scenes. But it isn't the appeal or the reason that you pop in to check it out. It's about exploring ideas and the nature of humanity as, well, to be honest most Sci-Fi tends to be about.
“Don’t make a prequel.”
Star Trek Discovery exists.
“...Oh.”
Step 1: 'Don't Make it a Prequel'
If only CBS got the memo...
Seeing how Picard and Discovery have been taken, making Star Trek '09 a spin-off in a different universe with only the connection of Old Spock was a pretty smart move.
I enjoyed the 09 film for what it was and really like Beyond. I never felt like Star Trek was over until STD and Picard.
The "Good, Bad, Good" chart at 3:10 also works for spy movies.
I just found the Mr. Plinkett reviews and I've never laughed so hard in my life. I almost hurt myself watching the Star Wars prequal reviews. These things are the best. Also, Parallels is one of my favorite TNG episodes so he got that shit wrong!
Quite right.
Parallels (one of the great TNG episodes, TRUE sci-fi) is about the intriguing idea of quantum parallel universes, NOT parallel timelines.
Parallel universes means you may exist in an infinity of variations and that every action and decisions have consequences; one of Star Trek's great messages, highlighted by masterpiec episodes like City on The Edge of Forever.
Parallel timelines would mean that there is no consequence to anything you do if you alter history; you just create a new history and yours continues happy and your new history continues happy so nothing matters, all is fine; something Star Trek NEVER agreed about; except in the universally declared shitty Endgame final episode of Voyager, (and ST 2009) every single time there was an alteration in time, they all (except senile old Spock) did everything to correct it, because a change in history effectively DESTROYED the timeline to replace it by a FALSE one.
Nothing could be more irresponsible than that and thus, nothing could be less Star Trek than that.
Inept Orci & Kurtzman (who also destroyed the Transformers franchise and the Spider-Man franchise) just confused the two to give Abrams what he wanted; a clean slate to do with Star Trek a demo reel to pitch for Star Wars... and in the process, destroy Star Trek as well; changing a mature, thought-provoking and entertaining sci fi show into a kiddie live action cartoon show set in space.
odojang
On the contrary; Star Trek has been most consistent on this fact; you do not alter the timeline without consequences; the main one being, you destroy what was in favor of what now is: the morality play this creates is the fascinating point explored with the story and Trek always took the stance that it was wrong to do so. Sci Fi then becomes what it is best known for; a reflection about us, reality and existence and how our own actions impact on it all; that we are responsible for or own decisions and must rise up to that responsibility.
Only Janeway broke that rule among Trek captains; hence why Endgame is seen as the lazy bad plot contrivance to end the story that it was. Archer stopped the aliens from altering WWII; Kirk restored what McCoy had changed; Picard stopped the Borg from changing earth History; Sisko stopped Darvin from killing Kirk... even Janeway opposed the Krenim Empire from playing with the timeline before she decided the send everything to hell for the sake of making things better for her and her friends.
Nu-Trek brushed it all away as something of no consequence to let Abrams do "his" Star Trek Wars with the cope out of "but I'm not changing anything, you can still have your real Trek and I will have my demo reel to pitch for Star Wars." The fact that he uses Spock, of all characters (the very one that convinced Kirk that Edith Keller HAD to die, return Captain Christopher to his life, let Gary Seven complete his mission etc), is all the more "un-trek" and proof that neither he nor Orci & Kurtzman understood anything at all.
, you should really check out the youtuber fanboyflicks, he does hilarious reviews of bad movies and he deserves more subs
I'm coming to this thread from the future but it seems that Mike -- I mean, Mr. Plinkett has a weirdly strong distaste for parallel universes, like they somehow invalidate the storytelling of Star Trek.
I don't get it though. Parallels is one of my favorite TNG episodes, and it's not like the existence of other universes makes the one we're in less special.
Holy shit! Plinkett is still alive?!
Erik Högman thanks, already figured it out. Guess they are just incapable of making Plinkett anymore.
Harry S. Plinkett Revenge! Revenge!
Erik Högman "I've been watching a plinkett video every night for 5 years."
wat teh fuck
+Erik Högman No, it *is* a new review. That timeline never happened, remember?
+Kirill Nielson he is we need him to do more reviews! He can even beat polio with that :D
18:15 The random pronunciation of "Uhura" gets me every time.
10:55 I literally choked on my coffee at the Bambi 2 part. I'm afraid... but now,,, I have to see it.... But I don't want to...
Are we ever going to get another Mr Plinkett review? There are so many movies that need someone like him to rip them apart.
Episode VII review coming 2017!
+Alan Alvarado haha I wish.
Mike loved the movie though, he'll probably make a short video talking about how it works as a Star Wars movie. Or something like the star trek 09 review.
+John christopher That's my feelings as well it's not great it's not terrible but requels are for other franchises not Star Wars. Plinkett, the king of attacking plot points, is going to have a hard time defending it unless Mike is going to let Plinkett have a different opinion than him.
***** Shut up kid this is why no one cares what the lap dog thinks. Hypocrisy is destroying every iota of a film then calling anyone who defends if a stupid drooling fan boy. RLM started that and if you don't know where they did then you're already too young or too stupid to be spoken with.
I am so happy to find a recent review. I know it sounds weird but his Episode III review helped me fall asleep every night. I am not even a fan of Star Wars but his review style is so informative and you learn so much about story telling and proper techniques to film making.
Look, I don't have so much free time that I will tell you which episodes they were, but in the latter seasons of Star Trek 1966, Uhura had temporary command of the ship, displayed technical skills by repairing or modifying equipment, and occasionally had the idea they went with. She was a badass. AND FINE AS HELL GET ME A TIME MACHINE
I actually found the Plinkett Star Trek reviews before I ever saw his Star Wars reviews. As a lifelong Trekkie they made me laugh SO hard. (Purple space bazooka!) The infamous Star Wars reviews are excellent, but to me, this is one of the best reviews Redlettermedia has ever done. It's entertaining, funny, and the way the Hollywood system operates nowadays is explained perfectly. They are afraid to take chances on original ideas in favor of remakes, rehashed sequels, reboots, and an emphasis on properties and franchises has really killed the diversity of films nowadays. Fortunately by this point in 2018 I have witnessed a reaction to this trend in better quality cable TV and on demand content and some very well crafted smaller films that have actually made a decent impact. I also really love how much emphasis Mike put on how everything in this reboot was HYPERCHARGED in order to appeal to modern audiences. I feel this applies to most contemporary big-budget productions since the release of Transformers. Studios don't understand or care about the concept of proper pacing anymore and barely give the viewer space to breathe. Even anime director Miyazaki is quoted as saying that's one of the most crucial elements of filmmaking.
That remake movies list. Oh how innocent you are, you have seen nothing yet.
23:10 "I think I need to go see a therapist after this", shows Deanna Troy: "NO, NOT HER!" :)
RIP Anton Yelchin
yup
@The Strawberry Pimp Yis kiptin
“Hollywood’s going to make a Snuggies movie”
Me: Ha-ha, good one, Plinkett.
*Hollywood makes Emoji Movie*
😳
He’s right... this review is exactly how I felt being a Star Trek fan. I fought emotionally against the first “reboot”:.. it’s a actually not all that bad (if you compare to Star Wars). The casting is excellent! The Kirk introduction is perfect... blasting Beastie Boys while underage driving a C1 Corvette only to smash it... yeah, that’s Kirk alright.
As for the second “reboot” go fuck yourself! Kahn... Ricardo Montalbán owned that part! No one can replicate that!
"OH OH oh I got my parachute pants on,
OH OH Oh I got my cat pregnant"
This is comedy gold!!
It's not only gold, it's also family friendly.
Agree completely except on First Contact. I liked that one but I liked the TOS movies better than the rest of the TNG movies.
Vivaldi in the background makes this priceless. Beyond priceless.
And now we have a Tetris trilogy on the way...
i was thinking the same thing during that segment, its gotten so much worse considering all the live action remakes
Maybe the same way that they made a movie out of Legos?
William Bone I'm still not ruling out the possibility of "Snuggies: The Movie"
Gavin Macpherson-Smith
Only other animated movies that have come out I've liked as of the last five years were the movies that beat Legos to the rewards,(Song of the Sea, Tale of Kaguya) alongside Kubo.
Those three and the Lego movies are the holy quintet of the 2010's.
this series is the only thing on youtube that makes me laugh out loud
This review makes me nostalgic. I first watched it on my ZX Spectrum after a heady afternoon at the zoo
Holy shit 2009? Can't believe it was that long ago.
I looove "Parallels." It was one of the best TNG episodes, dude! And a great Worf episode!
Did worf Still get all his recommendations and ideas shot down?
Haha the timeline where Riker is in command and they just become homeless and explode. It's particularly embarrassing because it happens infront of EVERY parallel Enterprise crew.
@@Moredakkamus *"NO! WE WON'T GO BACK!"*
I LOVED Star Trek The Motion Picture when I saw it in the theater. It was real Trek and EPIC in scale. It had lots of Stanley Kubrick elements. But, the general public in more recent times is all too often brain dead pinheads that can only have their attention garnered by shallow, noisy and shiny things. Keep up the AWESOME reviews.
The way he edits uhura's name 😍
"this movie is racist against Chinamen" @ 19:51 - This is why I love these movie reviews! hahahahh
I always wondered why RLM keeps making these incredibly obvious lazy jokes, and now I know who they're for
@@spankminister actually, Plinkett's style is quirky and hilarious, it's not for everyone but it doesn't have to be
Says the guy with @@spankminister for a name.
@@spankminister Because slamming overly sensitive snowflakes never, ever, EVER gets old.
Except both the actor and character are Japanese. Lol.
"Three guys, one saucer"
LOL Fucking hilarious!!
First thing I didn’t agree with Plinkett on; Parallels.
I'm just so happy! Plinkett's reviews are better than most actual movies. Either that means he's the best, or films really are that terrible, but either way it's a breath of fresh air :-D
I will not argue that!
Davis Centis You have a hot girl kissing you in the photo.
..... Ive been waiting for a Mr. Plinket review for 18 years, and here it finaly is.
Scottish Man Merica! Should have gone to their website. You could have watched it 2 years ago.
Jackmono1
Noooooo! Ive been wasting my life waiting!!!
TOS Star trek was great because of the original actors/characters. This is like going to a family dinner to find your Mum, Dad, siblings and pet dog you've loved since you were a kid have all been replaced with fake people and another dog... all trying to act in a similar way, with lens flares to distract from the heart churning emotions.
Yeah. I REALLY hated the reinterpretation of Spock's character, & there's just something about Chris Pine's ugly face that pisses me off.
I watched this film yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it, even if it didn't follow the timeline of the original Star Trek (or perhaps did due to the "fracturing universes" theory), it was still a highly competent and enjoyable movie (and this review was brilliant as always Plinkett).
Edit: I put "then" in there for no reason, now it's been removed.
Thank you, I've always really liked the Star Trek: the Motion Picture precisely because it's like a two-hour episode of the original series.
4:12 Dr. Crusher really doesn't look right shooting that gun. I guess it's because of the way she acted in TNG series, but that scene just looks wrong.
She's probably never fired a fake rifle before in her whole career.
The idea of Dr Crusher firing any weapon other than a hand phaser just feels wrong
Mr. Plinkett is a genius. Funny reviews, recurring jokes, and dark reviews. Hell yeah 10/10
making movies out of anything ....angry birds, battleship, etc.
So we spend 25-odd minutes hearing him say how it doesn't really matter, only to go "that's like getting upset about the Prequel Fi- ooooh...." and completely negate everything he just said. Even after all this time, I still find that amusing.
Also, how shit, how did I NEVER notice the pizza roll during the intermission sequence? I've watched these videos numerous times and never realized that. To quote Keanu Reeves: "Whoa."
But yeah, I quite like Parallels. I'm a firm believer in the multiverse, but that doesn't make the reality we live in any less interesting or important. Unless it's like some comic book sales-drumming event, what happens in one reality is extremely unlikely to affect another. So who cares that a me in another timeline is in better shape with a wonderful wife and cute kids. Although, to be honest, knowing that's a thing does make my more miserable and lonely life a little more bearable. You know, knowing that somewhere out there is a happier me.
The blurring effect is exactly how Disney will ruin Star Wars as a franchise.
LoooooooL
You have no idea how accurate this was/is.
This should be screen-capped, printed, framed and placed in a "most eerily real future prediction comments" museum. Nostradamus couldn't have been more accurate.
Little did he know
AT-STs! AT-STs! AT-STs!
this should be re-edited so that every time he says uhura it's the suburban sasquatch "growl"
I just want more Deep Space Nine.
Still quote “People shouting is drama!” whenever a scene like that shows up on TV or in a Movie
Who else wants to see Plinkett review 2012?
that would be amazing
Martha... I’m coming home
He's right about The Motion Picture. It's a great movie, best Star Trek movie and a quality Sci Fi movie in general.
Huh. This must be the only Plinkett review I've never seen. Never knew it existed. Here we go.
the most in depth reviews in THIS galaxy.
I would have loved a Deep Space Nine movie. Something with the Dominion coming for help from the Federation and the Prophets returning Sisko, I would have gone to theaters multiple times for it whether it was good or not.
If only Mike-I mean plinkett had waited until 2022 to do this review, that bit at 7:15 would go for a solid 5 minutes
You're talking about equations, and all I can think is "ITS TRICKY TO ROCK A RHYME TO ROCK A RHYME THAT'S RIGHT ON TIME"
I wonder why part two was taken down due to a copyright claim by Paramount, but this one has managed to stay up.
I wonder if Mike still feels this way. I still completely agree that this movie is a guilty pleasure and a ton of fun. It's not a Trek film, but it's a really exciting action movie.
Star Trek TMP is actually very good science fiction. Music is incredible also.
Here's the thing - it's a SHIP. Star Trek II showed it best. Like old sailing ships trading broadsides. Thought was involved. Generally mature people doing what they have to do. Star Trek 2009 turned the Enterprise into a fighter plane, Spock into a big Vulcan crybaby, and Kirk into a boring man-child who was unbelievably promoted from cadet to captain. Oh, and they made it in a fucking brewery. Cold filtered photon torpedoes!
It turned Uhura into a lovesick school girl, complaining all the time.
Reporting from 2017, we didn't get snuggies movie. But we did get something much worse, the Emoji film. So you hit the nail on the head
Wtf
JJ put an oversized defibrillator on a half dead franchise and got it back to life. Was a great ride, but not too rewatchable. It's like having too much candy.
Still find this to be one of Plinket's finest reviews. Dude is in his element.
12:30 ".....I got my cat pregnant" 😂
You only said internet porno twice. I'm disappointed.
He was subverting our expectations, even back then.
"There was a black..."
😂😂😂😂
Plinkett.You are the voice of a generation.
Can Mike just make a review of all Star Trek seasons? I could watch him talking about Star Trek for hours. Like here: 23:40. Listening him disliking this series is so much more interesting than watching anything that happened in a movie he's reviewing. Does anyone want to see Mike release the inner -goddess- nerd, as much as I do?
Wow finally a new Plinkett review.
Oh...
Ryan Clark lol yeah "new"
Ben Dick I guess Space Cop took up most of the time that would've been used to write and cut a Plinkett review. Plus all the other shit they've been doing all along.
"Parallels" is one of my favorite ST:TNG episodes.
Why is the existence of other yous in other universes "devastating"? Personally no idea has been more stimulating for me over the course of my life. That whole part of the review was great btw
Saw this movie in theaters. I remember not hating it but, it didn’t feel anything like a Star Trek movie.
At least its set in an alternate timeline, and it isnt completely changing the timeline. Abrams himself has said this, probably due to all the complaints I expect.
I look forward to Snuggies: The Movie! The Emoji Movie was such a hit, that that is the logical progression!
I don't see that problem with Parallels. That's like saying "Why are you so upset about your mother dying? There's millions and millions of similar people in the world"
+Crowley9 Similar. Not identical. Parallels literally made it so that a potentially infinite number of every person to ever exist all exist simultaneously in alternate timelines. Every decision you have ever made was made differently by a different version of yourself in another timeline. That means that every mistake you've ever made has been avoided by one of your numerous copies. That means that there is a version of you with a perfect life, thus rendering your life completely devoid of any kind of meaning. It also means that free will cannot possibly exist, because literally everything that _can_ happen _does_ happen. All the terrible things that have happened to you in your life are simply the result of you being in a less than perfect version of the universe.
Parallels was the single sloppiest, poorly-thought-out episode in all of TNG because it rendered absolutely everything that ever happened in the show, and ever would happen, completely pointless. All those tense moments when the crew was struggling for their lives, desperately trying to figure out the correct course of action to take, are rendered sterile and fruitless, because the crew succeeding has _nothing at all to do_ with how competent they are, but is simply due to the fact that they're in a universe where they succeed. We see that in one of the parallel universes, Picard was killed during the events of The Best of Both Worlds. We also see that there's another universe where the Borg have completely destroyed the Federation. So all those clever maneuvers and thoughtful storytelling and action-packed sequences are rendered totally pointless. In just one episode, TNG essentially retconned everything interesting or exciting in Star Trek out of existence. All so they could set up a romance between Worf and Troi.
Screw you, Brannon Braga.
+fartmagizewarth Everything you described is exactly what's wrong with the episode, but I don't think you actually grasp why.
First, it's not simply that there are an infinite number of parallel universes -- it's that there is a universe for literally every single contingency in the space-time continuum. In other words, for every choice you could make, there is a universe where you make a different choice. And for every choice someone ELSE could make, there is a universe where THEY make a different choice. And so on and so on. By the end of it, you end up with every conceivable eventuality all existing simultaneously. Like I said, it completely negates any possibility of free will. The actual possibility of "choice" disappears when all contingencies are simultaneously existent across the multiverse. As I said, it renders every tense moment in Star Trek completely hollow by telling us that if it doesn't work out in THIS universe, it does in some OTHER universe. So, essentially, what we're seeing is just one of the many, many realities. If you don't like it, please flip over to channel 53049, where they're airing a completely different universe. Maybe that story will be more to your liking.
The thing about Mirror, Mirror was that it only suggested the existence of two universes -- the "original" universe, and the "mirror" universe. It was the duality that was important in that episode, and the duality that made that episode work. Parallels took that and tore it to shreds, saying, "No, there aren't two opposing universes, there are actually quadrillions of universes that are only different on a quantum level". Everything that the series ever accomplished before this was completely destroyed by that episode, and everything that happened afterwards was pointless. For all the bogus time travel and space-time manipulation, nothing even mattered. There would always be a universe where they DIDN'T destroy the galaxy, or they DID complete that crucial mission, or whatever. Every single possibility is realized in the Star Trek universe thanks to Parallels, so there's no reason to feel any kind of attachment to the events depicted in the show, because we, as viewers, know that they are just one of the vast possibilities.
As I said, it ruined the show. Lazy writing was the death of Star Trek. That explains the movies, actually. But All Good Things is still the best episode of anything to ever be made. So whatever, ignore my blathering.
A man was walking along an endless beach throwing washed up clams back into the water. Another man approached him and said "Why even bother, there are so many that it will never make a difference". In response he threw the clam in his hand back into the water and replied "It made a difference to that one"
admittedly parallels does mess up the multiverse theory something awful. The general idea of multiverse theory is both infinite in width and depth. Ie there are an infinite number of both different and identical universes. Parallels describes a new universe at each decision made by a conscious being. In summation multiverse theory does not ruin anything... but parallels was shit.
I mean, even if there are millions of parallel universes, you're still only one in your universe. And that's the only universe you'll ever be.
Well atleast now that they’re not making any more of these, if Quentin Tarantino wants to make one of these, he can maybe do the first or second in a trilogy of DS9 epilogues instead...
Like, if he was given free reign on Qo'noS with Worf and Martok to tell a Klingon Revenge Opera, in the middle of a larger narrative, he could have a ton of fun...
I love it! Not a second of that video was wasted!
At about 5:30 : For some reason, this popped up on my 'watch next' list, even though I've seen this years ago, so I decided to listen again as background noise.
Oh, man; the 'prescience' of this section, taking into account 'Star Trek: Discovery', is amazing ^_^
G.I Joe: Rise of the Cobra Surfer hahahahaha!
I Loved Star Trek:The Motion Picture...You get to spend 2 hours on The Enterprise & it feels like 5- I'm happy.
Star Trek: The Star Trek
Maybe I'm a moron, but the 2009 reboot is my fave Star Trek movie, with The Voyage Home in 2nd.
I feel like this is a perfect parallel to the new Star Wars film.
It wasn't bad because, it wasn't boring/complex but it was also not good because, it wasn't boring/complex
It was an action film that none of us wanted but we got anyway and... it wasn't too bad
JJ is just a solid director for guilty pleasures
Star Trek the motion picture is my favourite movie in the franchise.
'Star Trek The Motion Picture was a very long and pointless remake of an original episode called 'Nomad'. It also had thematic elements from the new Star Trek show that was never aired, called 'Star Trek Phase II'. Steven Collins, From the TV show 'Seventh Heaven' played Captain Decker. Decker was supposed to be related to the character who gave his life to save the crew of The Enterprise in the episode called 'Doomsday Machine.' The Decker character was supposed to star in 'Phase II' so they used him in this movie as a kind of inside reference. Then they killed him off so they could make more Star Trek movies with the original cast. Also the look and color scheme of the ship and the outfits seem to be based on the Trek episode called 'The cage' starring Jeffrey Hunter.
“I like bill. He’s a nice man.”
9:20 I can’t be the only one who thought of Johnny Canales when he said this. “take it away Johnny!”
My biggest problem with these movies was the random romance between Spock and Uhura. WTF did this come from? It just doesn't match ether of their characters nor did their connection seem genuine or natural. It felt like someone grabbing two actions figures and bashing them together and calling it kissing. Than that's taken and slammed it in my face thru the whole damn movie.
There was just no real build up and I know it's not a romance movie BUT since it is a large play in the movie- some more development and possible self conflict would have been much more interesting than this bullshit naggy girlfriend crap.
1) Zoë Saldana refused to sign the contract unless her character had something to do.
2) They noticed a few scenes of Nichelle Nichols jokingly hitting on Nimoy, and figured that had to be an important characteristic, despite apparently not noticing the same thing being much more prominent with Nurse Chapel.
We find out now that the people who made this film knew nothing about Star Trek.Spock with a girlfriend is laughable.
@@djackson4657 Spock having a girlfriend isn't necessarily a problem; Vulcans practice long-term monogamy just like many primates: it's both practical and fulfilling for many.
The problem (and insult) is in implying that (1) he would compromise his professional ethics for sex, and (2) that a bridge officer on the Federation flagship only got her coveted post because she sucks a mean dick.
Having a girlfriend when you are not interested in girls is a problem,
That cat story is every gamblers nightmare
Oh, man, the LOTR reference hit me in my soul.