This was an excellent interview. Farage not interrupting is excellent and Portillo is head and shoulders above anyone currently in politics on any side
Yep, I attended his 'one Man show' and book signing tour, last November. He signed my book and I put a couple of questions to him. A very approachable and entertaining person. I asked him if he would ever go back into politics, and he firmly said -NO, Never .
He'd make a great PM RIGHT NOW! I don't think we have any of the 'old school' who would be ready to take on the job. Except perhaps Andrew Bridgen. But the honest, upright and honourable ones wouldn't stand a chance.
Not really he said on Neil's TV show they was good mates and class mates doing Shakespeare in university together lol . I think he be the one of the few that read give would tribute her publically at her funeral for etc lol
@@timhuggins1993 That may be so but he sets an old fashioned example of how somebody can be civil and courteous even to those with opposing views. Though he never surrenders his principles he is a tolerant and fair man, and exceptionally sharp.
@Macavity Every time I get a comment like this it's from someone who doesn't run a youtube channel and has zero idea what it's like or what they're talking about. Are you the one who snitched on me? Bet you'd have snitched on Anne Frank too. Nice.
My father worked under him when he was defence secretary. He said he was the best one of all the ones he worked under, every time he spoke to someone he gave them his full attention he said and listened to every word he would say. He said he was a very good boss.
Not suprised at that. Maybe we should do away with this way of governance and re think another that could incorporate Portillo but without the pressures of party politics. Maybe.
@@daikayll1897 we brits need to get away from the 3 main parties they just lie but most of the brits fall every time, we need to wake up and fast, it's the cival survants that run the show and these mp's just tag a lone till they have there down fall
Yep another one here. I laughed when he lost his seat. I now think he would have made a great PM and probably have ended the Blair nightmare at least one term earlier.
I agree but temper that thought with the fact that as soon as ex ministers or M.P.'s leave public office and the constraints of doing that job they immediately regain their humanity.
One of the best Talking Pints I've seen. I'm a huge fan of both these two and watching them talk is like listening to conversation in a pub. Great stuff.
Integrity? What, in a Philip Schofield batting and bowling sort of way? He never had any loyalty to anyone in the Tory hierarchy, which he came to after his youth in The Labour Party, he just went to ride the most likely horse to win. If he was reborn halfway through his life, then he was a confirmed bastard both times.
@@GeorgeAmsterdam Without Nigel there would be no '17 Million Fuck Offs' to Brussels - He has had more effect on British history than any other individual - Every generation after this one will make movies about Brexit, it is the perfect drama with huge characters on both sides, ironies and cliff hangers galore, a victorious central underdog character and best of all the people defeating their masters - The most massive irony is how the Conservatives owe him everything and hate it.
@@Hovercraftltd Oooh how very true, the Tories and our country owe Nigel our future. We should grab it with boths hands and prosper. "We dare we will win".
I love these talking pints shows. Nigel has such varied eclectic guests from all sides of politics. Michael Portillo here was excellent, and unlike on the BBC, Farage, didnt keep interrupting him. Instead he added to the enjoyment, and didnt just talk for the sake of it. Very enjoyable, I wonder who is next ?
@@RightTurnClyde The Left always try to claim the moral high ground. Even while seething with bigotry and discriminating endlessly against others for believing in a better way.
I once saw Michael Portillo travelling on a busy train in rush-hour London . I watched closely as he became the the object of much attention, not all of it particularly positive. I was taken by his grace and honest charm. He gave everyone his fullest attention and listened closely. I could see people being clearly pleased that they were being listened to, and responded to with respect. I wonder what politician today would have the same consideration of others.... ? I was impressed.
Michael Portillo.. Brilliant politician and a TRUE Conservative. The man who should have been Tory leader, but was considered too far to the Right of the party by some people! Great to see and hear him.... and to know he's still around!!!
Isn’t GB News gaining loads of traction at the moment! Many I’ve met are now tuning in snd finding it the channel we’ve needed for so long. It’s no surprise that Nigel has such high ratings as he simply asks the questions we would. I often find his railway journey episodes as a fantastic and relaxing way to spend a few hours on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Such a nice, honest and respectful man.
"......... finding it the channel we’ve needed for so long...." Indeed. What the UK so desperately needs is an answer to America's Fox News. Only then can we look forward to having someone as magnificent as the Trumpster in Number 10. I bet you can't wait, eh?
I was on a small boat trip around the Farne islands. One of the chap's who worked the boat told us he met Michael Portillo who was making a TV program. Said he was a Gentleman.
I am impressed how Portillo attributes his success to " luck". I disagree. His voice projects so much confidence, his railway presentation is sublime. He engages with other passengers with ease.
I used to be a TV documentary sound recordist for most of my life before retiring. As with many comments on here, I disliked Mr. Portillo when he was a member of Thatcher's cabinet. In the mid to late 1990's we, as a film crew, were sent to Scotland for a week to make a pilot documentary with Michael Portillo. I was staggered to find what a thoroughly nice guy he is.We had some interesting discussions over that week about his time in politics. I have the utmost respect for him. He's a very knowledgable and decent guy. He would have made a great PM.
I never liked Portillo when he was a politician but I've warmed to him over the years. The same with Nigel Farage. Great interview. Nice to see Nigel listening and allowing Michael to talk uninterrupted.
I do like Portilio. Quite often disagree with him on policy but he presents his arguments well and I always could understand his point of view even if I disagreed with it. Hearing him talk about politics makes me feel nostalgic for BBC This Week. It's a travesty that it got axed, it was the best political show on TV.
Totally agree. Yet how rare is it that anyone who interviews (heckles) him, affords him the same courtesy. He's a great guy, full of knowledge, has a good sense of humour. I'm a big fan.
@@markharlock6474 We are about to lose our civilisation through Global Warming and Ecological Collapse. None of the current models are fit for purpose. It is all going to change and very very soon.
Bet the people who rescued johnson off the zip line when he was Mayor of London are wondering why they didn't just leave him to hang out and dry. Portillo has definitely improved with age and that speech is pertinent to what is happening right now.
It was absolutely a great interview. Portillo always speaks so well and with so much insight. Prime Minister material! Farage did a great interview it was relaxed and Farage didn’t interupt, he let his guest speak. It was just two people discussing politics. Very refreshing to watch.
Great conversation...Michael is someone I've began to like over a long time...back in his MP days, I felt very different. This was one of your best TP Nigel 👌
Superb interview worthy of a much wider audience. Nigel does an excellent job with these and Michael Portillo as always right on the money. Boris is finished.
Andrea....I think a lot of us have been waking up to a different reality over the past 5 years. I meet with some great people regularly. We like to discuss these strange times. Its like we have gone through an awakening together. What has impacted your thinking....in what ways have your views changed?. ...Just interested to hear about people outside of my bubble and hear how other 'thinking' people are reading reality.
We really need a show like this in the US. Also, as an American who loves and honors and truly cares about my country. We should be so lucky to have a speech like that one here coming in 2024.
Thanks for a lovely quarter of an hour listening to Michael Portillo. Well done Nigel Farage for allowing the always interesting guest to fully make his point. Great to listen to and watch.
Can only echo what most have said. Glad to see him fall from his perch as an MP. Turned out to be a remarkable personality with his passion for history and the travelways of Britain and Europe.
Indeed - he's 100% responsible for the term "a Portillo Moment", and if that doesn't make a chap a legend, I don't know what does. (Google the term if you don't know what it is. You might be surprised by it, and I suspect you WILL learn something. You can thank me another day.)
Michael is a great guy, his railway journey programmes have always been essential viewing for us, not just for the trains aspect but for the fact that he shows us the best of the UK and abroad. Hope he does some more as they're so interesting. Great interview Nigel with a very interesting and knowledgeable man.
This was an excellent interview. Farage not interrupting is excellent and Portillo is head and shoulders above anyone currently in politics on any side
Easy to be smart from the sidelines though.
Yep, I attended his 'one Man show' and book signing tour, last November. He signed my book and I put a couple of questions to him. A very approachable and entertaining person. I asked him if he would ever go back into politics, and he firmly said -NO, Never .
@@rocketpig1914 I guess you are free to speak the truth from outside government.
Absolutely - excellent interview, the speech given by Portillo that we saw was made over 20 years ago and my word wasn't he on the money?
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Mr Farage out shines most of his contemporaries.
Portillo is an endlessly interesting, thoughtful, insightful and classy man. The comparison between him and today’s politicians is truly depressing.
Absolutely. The disparity is heartbreaking.
I love his railway journeys.
Yes I agree, he gives some very intelligent comment on today's politics. He could have been a great PM if he had been given the chance.
He’s a thatcher loving fool.
Thatcher actually hated his guts.
He was her creep
@@hudson7354 He is a very different person now compared to back in the 80/90's. I agree he was a joke back in those days.
@@hudson7354 as opposed to a Kinnock loving numbnut.
I always like this chap - Michael Portillo...... I think he would have made a great PM!
Yep come back!
@Macavity Keir Starmer wishes he was as unpopular as Nigel Farage.
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He'd make a great PM RIGHT NOW! I don't think we have any of the 'old school' who would be ready to take on the job. Except perhaps Andrew Bridgen. But the honest, upright and honourable ones wouldn't stand a chance.
@Macavity So have you any hints on how you make yourself more popular? Or have you failed?
When he was paired with Diane Abbot on the Andrew Neil show he often
had a wry smile on his face while she jabbered on. An honest man.
Those were great moments. You knew what Michael was thinking without him needing to say a word.
Not really he said on Neil's TV show they was good mates and class mates doing Shakespeare in university together lol . I think he be the one of the few that read give would tribute her publically at her funeral for etc lol
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@@timhuggins1993 That may be so but he sets an old fashioned example of how somebody can be civil and courteous even to those with opposing views. Though he never surrenders his principles he is a tolerant and fair man, and exceptionally sharp.
@Macavity Every time I get a comment like this it's from someone who doesn't run a youtube channel and has zero idea what it's like or what they're talking about. Are you the one who snitched on me? Bet you'd have snitched on Anne Frank too. Nice.
Portillo... A Prime minister that Britain never had and we are probably worse for it.
Such a sensible and caring man.
@Macavity
Yeah , that's because everyone swallowed Tony Blairs Bull**ite
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@Macavity
So what did Tony Blair reinvent himself as ?
Dream team of Michael &, John (Redwood). Instead we got ultra wet socialist Major.
@Macavity I remember the left celebrating in the same way as they bussed in supporters to Downing Street after Blairs victory. Both stage managed.
Portilo is a gentleman of the old school. Very likeable man.
GBN does this interview stuff well.
I agree with you and I'm an Irish Republican.
Nige does it well....
My father worked under him when he was defence secretary. He said he was the best one of all the ones he worked under, every time he spoke to someone he gave them his full attention he said and listened to every word he would say. He said he was a very good boss.
Not suprised at that.
Maybe we should do away with this way of governance and re think another that could incorporate Portillo but without the pressures of party politics. Maybe.
@@daikayll1897 yes party politics gets in the way, they are like children in the play ground, sorry kids didn't mean to pull you down that much.
Yes Stuart. I've used the schoolyard analogy before.
@@daikayll1897 we brits need to get away from the 3 main parties they just lie but most of the brits fall every time, we need to wake up and fast, it's the cival survants that run the show and these mp's just tag a lone till they have there down fall
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I remember being happy to see him go, Lord was I wrong, would love to have him back now!
Yeah remember it well cheering as the big gun Tories were falling like dominoes to the Blair avalanche. How wrong I was
Yep another one here. I laughed when he lost his seat. I now think he would have made a great PM and probably have ended the Blair nightmare at least one term earlier.
I agree but temper that thought with the fact that as soon as ex ministers or M.P.'s leave public office and the constraints of doing that job they immediately regain their humanity.
@@daikayll1897 Unless your name is Blair of course......
probably one of the best politicians to ever have their career cut short
I really enjoyed this honest interview. It's great to listen to Patriotism. It's been along time locked away.
Yes it was locked away while they destroyed the UK 🇬🇧 with Brexit 😞
What a great speech by Michael.
Michael demonstrates the integrity and statesmanship of yesterday that is completely void in politics across the board today.
I wonder... maybe also in senior positions across society in general.
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@@oliverclements5011 Perhaps you were meant to be serving and they decided 20 minutes was too long to have to wait, just to receive a drink?
Yes very well said
@@RightTurnClyde Keep up the great work Clyde.
One of the best Talking Pints I've seen. I'm a huge fan of both these two and watching them talk is like listening to conversation in a pub. Great stuff.
that is the intension
Totally agree 👍
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Complete agree
Absolutely right and wonderfully articulate of MP...
One of the best interviews to date.
This discourse was excellent.
This quality of conversation is so far beyond the MSM.
Really great interview 👍 Portillo should have a regular show on GBNews.
Absolutely, these two are brilliant heavyweights who are safe hands for honest broadcasting.
He's got a show on Times Radio
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Be co-presented on the 10am Sunday show and very good he was too.
GB News could do with a train show! e.g. Talking tracks, or Talking in carriages…
Portillo, common sense and integrity need I say more.
Integrity? What, in a Philip Schofield batting and bowling sort of way? He never had any loyalty to anyone in the Tory hierarchy, which he came to after his youth in The Labour Party, he just went to ride the most likely horse to win. If he was reborn halfway through his life, then he was a confirmed bastard both times.
Best interview I've heard in ages, well done both of you. Informative, thought provoking and entertaining.
Very good interview, Old School Conservative..
very good interview old lahour
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@@RightTurnClyde Keep up the great work Clyde.
Brilliant programme/content. These two statesmen represent the Britain that could have been, without woke people in politics.
That is so true, a bit sad that we have so far missed that boat.
Nigel doesn't.
@@GeorgeAmsterdam Without Nigel there would be no '17 Million Fuck Offs' to Brussels - He has had more effect on British history than any other individual - Every generation after this one will make movies about Brexit, it is the perfect drama with huge characters on both sides, ironies and cliff hangers galore, a victorious central underdog character and best of all the people defeating their masters - The most massive irony is how the Conservatives owe him everything and hate it.
@@Hovercraftltd Oooh how very true, the Tories and our country owe Nigel our future. We should grab it with boths hands and prosper. "We dare we will win".
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Cannot help but to like Michael. Nice guy, and a genuine politician.
Thank you Michael for mentioning the woeful lack of classical music on BBC TV. And your speech from the 90's was marvellous!
BBC should play Beethovens Ninth every day .
I love these talking pints shows.
Nigel has such varied eclectic guests from all sides of politics. Michael Portillo here was excellent, and unlike on the BBC, Farage, didnt keep interrupting him. Instead he added to the enjoyment, and didnt just talk for the sake of it.
Very enjoyable, I wonder who is next ?
Boris
Hard man loves a pint , drives a British Jag , got a fist John Prescott lol ?
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The Left always try to claim the moral high ground.
Even while seething with bigotry and discriminating endlessly against others for believing in a better way.
@@johnbrereton5229 The left never lose an argument because they decide who has won before the first words are spoken.
5:00 : "Worse than arrogance : a lack of human empathy."
Perfectly spot on. Pride comes before the fall.
They didn't believe the message they were communicating to jo public. They despised us for being so gullible. Harry Lime on top of the Ferris Wheel.
A honorable man, a rare thing these days!
I once saw Michael Portillo travelling on a busy train in rush-hour London . I watched closely as he became the the object of much attention, not all of it particularly positive.
I was taken by his grace and honest charm.
He gave everyone his fullest attention and listened closely. I could see people being clearly pleased that they were being listened to, and responded to with respect. I wonder what politician today would have the same consideration of others.... ? I was impressed.
Great interview. What a team these two would make as leaders of the nation.
His Railway Journey Programs are fabulous, we see places very well presented
Michael Portillo.. Brilliant politician and a TRUE Conservative. The man who should have been Tory leader, but was considered too far to the Right of the party by some people! Great to see and hear him.... and to know he's still around!!!
I share others' views here, this was a brilliant interview.
Isn’t GB News gaining loads of traction at the moment! Many I’ve met are now tuning in snd finding it the channel we’ve needed for so long. It’s no surprise that Nigel has such high ratings as he simply asks the questions we would.
I often find his railway journey episodes as a fantastic and relaxing way to spend a few hours on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Such a nice, honest and respectful man.
They need to shake that RacistTV/!bigot type of image still
@@clintireland389Those claims were made before it went on air based on assumptions about people who don't share Guardian's narrative
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"......... finding it the channel we’ve needed for so long...."
Indeed. What the UK so desperately needs is an answer to America's Fox News. Only then can we look forward to having someone as magnificent as the Trumpster in Number 10. I bet you can't wait, eh?
@@RightTurnClyde Keep up the great work Clyde.
I was on a small boat trip around the Farne islands. One of the chap's who worked the boat told us he met Michael Portillo who was making a TV program. Said he was a Gentleman.
Whenever he meets people on his travel shows he introduces himself, never expects them to just know who he is, mark of a Gent I'd say.
What a smashing man. Straight from the hip but nicely.
Great interview - we miss people like Michael
I am impressed how Portillo attributes his success to " luck". I disagree. His voice projects so much confidence, his railway presentation is sublime. He engages with other passengers with ease.
The Tories are poorer for not having the likes of Portillo in the ranks, another great interview.
As we go through life we drop acorns, how right Michael is very thought provoking, great show Nigel.
Great saying
The best talking pint by far. Brilliant Michael.
Excellent
Great guy
Michael is vastly underated the modern Conservative Party are sadly lacking people of his quality.
Great interview. Allowing credible guests like Michael the time to speak is fantastic. More like this please 🙂
I used to be a TV documentary sound recordist for most of my life before retiring. As with many comments on here, I disliked Mr. Portillo when he was a member of Thatcher's cabinet. In the mid to late 1990's we, as a film crew, were sent to Scotland for a week to make a pilot documentary with Michael Portillo. I was staggered to find what a thoroughly nice guy he is.We had some interesting discussions over that week about his time in politics. I have the utmost respect for him. He's a very knowledgable and decent guy. He would have made a great PM.
Just goes to show how we dislike people, thanks to the way they are presented by the media, and we don't really know them at all
Two great people.
What a great interview! 👍🏻
I’d love to see these two have a weekly programme .
I was thinking the same
Yes indeed - bring it on GB News!
Brilliant honest discussion
Not used to honesty when it comes to Farage eh!
@@clintireland389 why?
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@@RightTurnClyde Keep up the great work Clyde.
I never liked Portillo when he was a politician but I've warmed to him over the years. The same with Nigel Farage. Great interview. Nice to see Nigel listening and allowing Michael to talk uninterrupted.
We need Portillo on GB News
One very very smart guy.
Brilliant.. I used to enjoy Portillo and Andrew Neil, usually looking at each other in bemusement at Diane Abbott. Give him his own spot on GB news.
Best intervue by far, Nigel. I am a great fan of Michael Portillo and his understanding of politics is second to none.
...respect to Portillo...a decent sensible character...who would’ve been a better leader for this country than the last few a holes...
Best PM we never had.
Excellent interview. Thank you.
Mr. Portillo, percipient as ever!
What does percipient mean please ?
@@daikayll1897 Good insight and understanding :)
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I do like Portilio. Quite often disagree with him on policy but he presents his arguments well and I always could understand his point of view even if I disagreed with it.
Hearing him talk about politics makes me feel nostalgic for BBC This Week. It's a travesty that it got axed, it was the best political show on TV.
Agree 100%.
Class act
Excellent interview. Farage is up there with the late David Frost and now a media icon as well as a political one. Brilliant.
Farage, takes his time asking a question, and then shuts up and lets the guest answer. How refreshing is that?!
Agree 100%.
Totally agree. Yet how rare is it that anyone who interviews (heckles) him, affords him the same courtesy. He's a great guy, full of knowledge, has a good sense of humour. I'm a big fan.
Michaels train journeys are brilliant . Just watched his trip through Thailand where I live and his opinions and appraisals are truly spot on.
I greatly enjoy Michael's railway journeys. And his sartorial elegance is top notch.
These two should do a duo act; I’m thinking a historic public house tour.. Britain’s Greatest Pubs with Farage and Portillo.
not a bad idea
Yes Edd Ego ! I can see it.
"On It , with Mickey & Nige"
I'd be enthralled 👏👏
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The only problem with talking pints is it is too short. We need a weekly segment for at least an hour with several people. A proper pub debate!
What a great conversation 👏 loved it.
Shame Portillo does not have any desire to return to front line politics, the country needs him now
Like a boil.
@@gordonliddle2814 Ok Gordon, what deep and meaningful insights do you have for creating the best future for this country? Please let us know, thanks.
@@markharlock6474 We are about to lose our civilisation through Global Warming and Ecological Collapse. None of the current models are fit for purpose. It is all going to change and very very soon.
@@markharlock6474 avoiding Brexit would’ve been a good start.
The best Prime Minister we never had. Great interview 👍
Bet the people who rescued johnson off the zip line when he was Mayor of London are wondering why they didn't just leave him to hang out and dry. Portillo has definitely improved with age and that speech is pertinent to what is happening right now.
Portillio, would be a far better PM than any other MP currently in HoC… he is measured, concise, coherent, competent and overall very credible.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great interview.....best speech I have seen for a while...very apt.
It was absolutely a great interview. Portillo always speaks so well and with so much insight. Prime Minister material! Farage did a great interview it was relaxed and Farage didn’t interupt, he let his guest speak. It was just two people discussing politics. Very refreshing to watch.
Great conversation...Michael is someone I've began to like over a long time...back in his MP days, I felt very different. This was one of your best TP Nigel 👌
Not so much "luck". Portillo is a very intelligent, articulate and personable guy and has worked hard to get where he is.
Superb interview worthy of a much wider audience. Nigel does an excellent job with these and Michael Portillo as always right on the money. Boris is finished.
Very good interview, to be honest two to three years ago, I would not have listened. I've changed a lot of my views since then.
Cos they're both away from political biases , infighting and that greasy pole.
Andrea....I think a lot of us have been waking up to a different reality over the past 5 years. I meet with some great people regularly. We like to discuss these strange times. Its like we have gone through an awakening together. What has impacted your thinking....in what ways have your views changed?. ...Just interested to hear about people outside of my bubble and hear how other 'thinking' people are reading reality.
One of the best interviews with a highly intelligent independently minded man.
if only BBC would broadcast this interview to broader audience ... how natural, how easy all this conversation was conducted , well done Nigel.
Brilliant interview
I wish GB News would offer him a job. He's so knowledgeable and always very interesting.
Michael Portillo…..A classic example of ‘ You don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone’
Top Man.
What an outstanding example of a man of genuine integrity - a real breath of fresh air.
MP the best PM we never had.
We really need a show like this in the US.
Also, as an American who loves and honors and
truly cares about my country. We should be so lucky
to have a speech like that one here coming in 2024.
Possibly the best PM we never got.
god he's clever
Thanks for a lovely quarter of an hour listening to Michael Portillo. Well done Nigel Farage for allowing the always interesting guest to fully make his point. Great to listen to and watch.
Can only echo what most have said. Glad to see him fall from his perch as an MP. Turned out to be a remarkable personality with his passion for history and the travelways of Britain and Europe.
He has become a measured and wise commentator
Michael Portillo is a legend.
Indeed - he's 100% responsible for the term "a Portillo Moment", and if that doesn't make a chap a legend, I don't know what does.
(Google the term if you don't know what it is. You might be surprised by it, and I suspect you WILL learn something. You can thank me another day.)
Portillo, the best Prime Minister we never had !
Quality interview...measured & informative....a rare thing these days.
What a charming man Portillo is, he would have made a good PM.
Michael is a great guy, his railway journey programmes have always been essential viewing for us, not just for the trains aspect but for the fact that he shows us the best of the UK and abroad. Hope he does some more as they're so interesting. Great interview Nigel with a very interesting and knowledgeable man.
A great interview. He is right and I personally have noticed it at the moment we lack any sort of leadership being it in work places or in government.
Portillo should be Knighted. He's a true Legend.
I like his Railway Programmes
Love Michael get him on GB news - this week with Nigel and Michael 👍👍👍
Michael portillo is one of the Greatest in my book. Lovely interview 👍👍👍👏👏👏💯
Such a good interview. Hugely enjoyable.
Very good interview indeed really interesting
Good man Micheal.
Farage and Portillo with a new political party? Wow can you imagine that.
Portillo is leftwing Tory not right wing like farage
I don't think Portillo is a racist though!
Throw in JRM and they'll walk it!