Best Fifth wheel upgrade ever!!! Reese Goosebox on a Short bed

[@6582rg]

Well done. The paint on top of your Goos Box is a great idea.

[@jasonfay8469]

Yeah, until he raises the front of the trailer to get the ball off, then his horizontal line is off. No good painting that line while it's on the ball.

[@JimmyDs]

The line was painted 1” above ball height. Guess I should have specified, that would hose some people if they did it on the attached height.

[@alpaca7886]

Doing this by yourself... you are wearing the appropriate shirt...

[@brown1william]

Good looking truck. I'd love a short bed dually.

[@JimmyDs]

Jason Lee I measured and for the normal ball it is 35.5” from the front of the bed and 38.25 to the back of the cab glass.

[@JimmyDs]

So I just did a cross Texas trip and did not use the offset ball. It worked great, I don’t think I went anywhere that I was worried about contact. Even at some tight turns at the KOA in San Antonio it worked amazing.

[@gradyyoung7475]

Why did you remove the 4” off-set ball?

[@dannyd2639]

I’ve been looking for a video demonstrating how this works on a short bed. Thank you so much now I won’t feel bad getting a short bed

[@corgily]

Just subscribed your setup is exactly what I'm looking at

[@licknab]

Thanks for this! Just got a '21 Megacab 3500 DRW and had Andersen hitch in my old truck. Considering switching to goosebox and was worried about turning radius. I do a lot of camping at offroad parks, and it looks like if I were off camber and turning tight I could get in trouble. But as long as I'm fairly level I should be good. Think I will buy the goosebox.

[@blackpepe]

how did it go with goose box? did yeh get it

[@michaeljones1047]

Excellent choice of a T shirt

[@JD-sl1qs]

I like to use plywood in the bed for sliding heavy stuff around on

[@svrfx3573]

Dude ya gotta finish that Tat

[@1scooterpilot1]

Ran across this video. I have a RAM HO 3500 SB. Anxiety is now gone, thanks. 4" offset is the ticket.

[@JimmyDs]

Glad it helped out. I honestly stopped using the offset and just watched my corners. Worked great. But depending on your cap style you may still need it.

[@JimmyDs]

Beat,
Those are to the normal goose ball not the offset. Add 4” to those for the offset. I drove across Texas this week thru the hill country and no issues with the normal ball. I brought the 4” offset just incase but never a need.

[@wadeh9302]

Nice truck 👍

[@JimmyDs]

Thanks Wade, it’s a work in progress.

[@JasonLee-qj8ts]

I'm down to this or the Anderson Ultimate... I like how the Goosebox is dampened... I like how the Anderson is offset... Going in a 2019 F350 Short Bed with factory ball (no offset possible on the ball). Camper will be short bed friendly cap.

[@jesusrios264]

Jason Lee i got the Andersen hitch on my short bed cummins and it works fine. I really like that Andersen set up..

[@corgily]

It’s my understanding the factory puck system is not compatible with the offset gooseball. #1 the factory hole is round and the b&w adapter is square and #2 the factory system won’t prevent it from spinning even if you purchase a round one like a curt. Without the 4 inch offset the trailer will be 4 inches closer to the cab meaning less turning then demonstrated. I really would love this hitch on my ram short bed with factory pucks but this solution is not compatible

[@JimmyDs]

Hi Corgily,
So I fully agree with you on that aspect, the extension will only work with a square type B&W hitch. On that, I have actually towed my trailer more without the extension than I have with it. I have yet to be in a situation that made me be concerned about hitting my back window with the front cap. Yes you are not going to win and steep angle backing up competition but it will be fine. It’s all about what you are comfortable with, as in life there not a one system that works for everyone, find what you like and hit the road and build those memories.

[@blackpepe]

gen y make one

[@rbwoodwork1890]

If your talking 6.5' bed your ok, but the 5.5' beds you still won't have cab clearance.

[@haroldraphael9157]

Thank you for your response👍🏻

[@dmtycn]

Thanks, I will change to a 3500 long bed when I decide go 5th. Haha, Now a 2500 with bumper pull.

[@JimmyDs]

I have switched back to a long bed. Mainly for the 50gal stock fuel tank lol.

[@JimmyDs]

You will def enjoy towing a 5th wheel over the TT

[@mavrick0pm]

@@JimmyDs I hope that's not the only reason when there are 2 aftermarket companies that offer 50gal tanks for the RAM's? This was one of the first changes I made on my 3500 megacab.

[@FloridaKeysPirate]

I have a 2018 Ram 3500 Mega cab , so as you know it has the short bed. Right now I have a Reese 19K Sidewinder installed. It works , but I hate the wedge system it uses to stop the pivoting in the coupler. Doesn’t seem safe , and it always makes me nervous towing with it. If this Reesebox will work for my truck , I may have to give it a try. Like how it’s one solid piece. Just the hitch and a ball ! No other moving parts to fail. Are you still happy with it ? Or should I go with an Anderson Ultimate ?

[@JimmyDs]

Hank Slaght
I love it, the ease of an empty bed alone makes it worth it. And yes that block is horrible, one of my buddies had it and now he has the goose box and loves it aswell. He is in a short bed ford.

[@NordicNevs]

Ok I have the same truck just a SRW, OEM puck system with the B&W ball and Reese goosebox ordered. Man or man I hope it works without an offset ball

[@JimmyDs]

It should work fine. Obviously go slow at first to find your limit areas. I don’t even use my offset.

[@NordicNevs]

JDODGE I went ahead and purchased it a few weeks ago along with the trailer. All works out. I can’t go 90 or really even 80 for the matter but the maneuverability is better than I thought. Not if there is a way to ease up on the chucking...air shows right in the middle of the visual gauge.

[@JimmyDs]

If you want a little more clearance look into an offset ball. As far as the chucking I find that 60psi works good for my 17k trailer.

[@NordicNevs]

@@JimmyDs they dont make an offset ball for the factory puck system

[@loganeley2342]

Reese sidewinder with a fifth wheel hitch was able to get my short bed and trailer (without tight turn cap) to 90 degrees.

[@JimmyDs]

Awesome!!! That is also a great route to go if you already have a hitch installed. Make sure you keep an eye on the puck (wedge) bolts and keep them tight. Keep us updated on what you think about it.

[@JasonLee-qj8ts]

If you wouldn't mind it would be SUPER helpful if you could tell me what the distance is from your cab bed wall to the stock ball center... Mine in my Super Duty short bed is 36"

[@JimmyDs]

Jason Lee
I will get out and measure it today. I have driven it with a stock ball no offset and it works great aswell maybe 2 deg legg turning but nothing noticeable. I do like the handling feel better with the stock non offset ball it puts the pivot point back over the axle. My buddy has an F350 SRW short bed he is putting one on his fifth wheel aswell after driving mine around.

[@EDLaw-wo5it]

With no more clearance than that you better hope you are on level ground. If the rear of the trailer happens to be on a hump it will still hit the cab. This is the voice of experience talking lol.

[@JimmyDs]

Thus far has been great. I do not ever see my self getting into that tight of a turning requirement to be honest. But yes if there is a time extreem caution should be taken and use a spotter if able. Windows are expensive. Lol

[@haroldraphael9157]

Great video, I would be interested to know what your bed clearance is from the top of the bed rail to the bottom of the fiberglass. I am converting my eclipse attitude toy hauler to the second generation goose box. I will be running a B & W goose ball with a 2 inch rise. The truck is a 2020 ram 3500 crew cab long bed Dually. I run across a lot of off camber transitions when going off road into the desert and want to make sure that I don’t self collide. Your truck should sit close to the same height as mine. That being said, I’m interested to know if you have the goose box in the lowest position?

[@JimmyDs]

Hi sorry for the delay. It is around 8” I have not come even close to having any contact issues. If you get really off camber I could see it tapping but as with anything go slow and use a spotter until you know your rigs limits.

[@bullnpcola]

I wish they would make the goosebox longer

[@JimmyDs]

That would def be beneficial, but I don’t know what that would do on tail gate clearances at that point. But I’m no engineer.

[@bbsteve73]

They do and you only loose 5000 lb capacity. B & w

[@barryfridley7852]

Is your Dodge Ram Mega cab newer than a 2018? If so, what modification was needed to use the 4in off set goose ball? Dodge dropped the goose ball safety pins after 2018. I cannot find an offset that uses compression bearing to keep the ball in place.

[@JimmyDs]

Mine is a 2019. I did not have the factory hitch. I put a B&W turn over ball that has the square shank. I don’t know if they make offsets for the round shank but I will look around to see what I find. In all honesty I never use my offset. I find I have plenty of clearance for 95% of anything I get into.

[@licknab]

@@JimmyDs So you don't need to use the offset? I have one, as my current setup is using Andersen on the 4" offset. I can turn around in my cul-de-sac. Expensive experiment to see if I can do the same with the goosebox, but my andersen is 7yrs old and showing it's age.

[@Marcosfamilyloft]

Thanks for the video. Do you think this setup would work with Ram boxes? I have a 2019 3500 SW mega cab with Ram boxes, and I want to switch to the same setup you have.. thanks

[@JimmyDs]

Oh def not. I would think you would hit on turns. But just my opinion seeing where mine swings in turns.

[@stevenwilliams6563]

What size is your bed, mine is 5.5 was wondering if this would work for me , thanks!!

[@JimmyDs]

Steven Williams
Hey Steve. Its the standard dodge short bed so I think 6’6 ish

[@stevena1633]

@@JimmyDs so i have a 6.5 bed and want the do this same set up with the 4in offset. i was wondering do you have issues touching bed rails with the goosebox when turning sharp?? My understanding is the new gen 3 goosebox geometry has changed a bit and helps with this issue. do you have any experience with the new gen 3 vs gen 2 or know anyone that has mentioned this bed rail clearance issue when turning? i dont have ram boxes btw.

[@cujo229]

Has anyone tried this without the offset gooseball? I have Nissan Titan and nobody makes an offset gooseball for my factory puck system

[@cujo229]

I'm looking for clearance on a 6.5 bed.

[@JimmyDs]

I would assumed it would work. I use it without the offset most of the time. You need to just be mindful but not a huge deal.

[@truehomellc8824]

Would you still recommend this set up over a slider ?

[@JimmyDs]

So it honestly comes down to personal preferences and if you mind taking the hitch in and out of your bed. The biggest advantage is the open space when not hitched up. The ride itself is kind of a toss up. There is pro’s and Con’s to each. If you have access to air and already have a turn over hitch I would do the Goosebox.

[@90648bz]

are these dimensions including adapter? or are 4 "added?

[@JimmyDs]

Beat Zürcher
Those are no adapter. I have actually been running with no offset and it works great.

[@kerry4951]

The factory Lippert pin boxes are such a joke. Basicly its good for being used as a boat anchor. I opted to go with the Gen Y Executive. I love the way its built and no air bag to contend with. I know its not approved by Lippert and probably never will be since Lippert is Reese and why allow people to buy a Gen Y when you can sell them a Reese Goosebox.

[@JimmyDs]

How do you like the Gen Y? I have seen it on a few videos but never in person. Does it ride pretty nice? I you know that is a fact on the Reese stuff. Got to keep that money coming to your self lol.

[@Ram-re5em]

Never ever buy short bed

[@JimmyDs]

I actually just traded back to a long bed lol. More for the stock 50 gal fuel tank.

[@brianrhodes5029]

I’m confused why does your title state short box? 6’4” is a standard size bed. The short box like mine is 5’7” so your title is misleading. Got all happy when I seen this then realized the video doesn’t help me any on my 16 Ram box which is 5’7”

[@JimmyDs]

Sorry that you got excited chonch. For a actual HD work trucks you get 6 or 8 ft beds. Don’t get so easily offended in life, it’s a video. If the system does not work do the adult thing and research what does work for you. To be honest this set up still would work for you with an offset ball. What is the distance of your bed center to to front of the bed? I am guessing not more than a 3-4” difference than mine. But on top of that if you have Ram boxes it would not work regardless of the bed length now you have a width issue.

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

Short bed dually? lol only dodge would do that.

[@JimmyDs]

It worked great. But I did transition back to a long bed.

[@blackpepe]

cab is bigger and better than long bed. bed size doesn't really matter for towing 25k tractors and farm equipment

[@ColtonBlumhagen]

@@blackpepe Try hauling a fifth wheel in a short bed.

[@Ram-re5em]

You just void the warranty on the frame of your camper. I have no idea why people do this your camper came of the fifth wheel hitch so leave it there and use it. By using a gooseneck type hitch you change the stress points on the frame of your camper while towing it and you can cause damage to it yikes

[@JimmyDs]

Actually, the Reese goose box is backed by lippert components. So if your frame is LCI your fine. As far as the short bed yes, I actually just traded back to a long bed.