I think Anthony Hopkins accent works a little because Burt was born in 1899 and grew up in the early 1900s when White New Zealanders still tries to speak the queens English. A lot of his generation kind of sounded like that.
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I was in a cafe flicking through a magazine and it had a photo of Temuera Morrison. I glanced up randomly and he was sitting outside. Went over and showed him. Talked about 'Aquaman'. He said "Thought I was getting the lead eh, but they gave it to that handsome fulla". Was going to tell him he wasn't in Guatemala anymore but I chickened out lol
In order to do a New Zealand accent, you need to understand our mindset, which can be defined as "She'll be right" when things are good, and "Go Hard" when things are bad. The laid back attitude and the transition to intensity manifests itself within the accent. We speak in a laid back manner, as a result our vowels shift to where they require less physical effort to actually enunciate them, there is less emphasis on pronunciation and more emphasis of efficient communication. This can also be seen is the somewhat low-key hoarse manner of speaker, which is actually more noticeable in women, because most female English speakers outside NZ do not speak in this manner. But, when a speaker wishes to indicate importance, the speed of their speech increases and tonality is emphasized. I heard you do this between 10:57 to 11:09 - both the emphasis on speed, and mid-sentence tonal inflection, is done to indicate importance to the listener. Once this is understood, emulating a general Kiwi accent would become a lot easier, it is an "easy does it" way of behaving, and this is reflected in our speech.
Top notch. I've often thought we have an almost lazy way of speaking compared to other English speakers, but your description better encapsulates the manner. It's about efficiency. Waste of microseconds enunciating every word if you dun'aff'ta. I have to say though, after coming home from 3 months in Europe, the vowel sounds were jarring. I actually cringed a bit.
It's simple. My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
" Don't tell her, it's me" they kept playing an Australian aboriginal didgeridoo while he is explaining Māori customs. Um... completely different cultures from completely different countries.
@@newzealandstories5621 Yep, but he was born in 1899 in NZ, so It's quite representative. Sir A.Hopkins studied old NZ accents from the early 20th century to try and replicate the sound. White New Zealanders in the early 20th century possessed accents that were closer to British English (the largest proportion of colonials were from the SW country in England, which is the sound you are picking up) with a sprinkle of RP, which became more prominent with an individuals social class. Many have had similar false perceptions regarding Major Barton in the film Gallipoli, thinking him to be a British officer, which consequently lead audiences feel derision towards the British regarding the waste of life of ANZAC troops portayed in the film, even though Major Barton was supposed to represent an Australian Officer, and the actor Bill Hunter captured the upper class Australian accent of the time very well.
my Asian friend who speaks Mandarin but was born here in NZ said his cousins have trouble understanding some of his words when speaking the language they can hear the kiwi influence in his voice, that cracked me up heaps.
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I lived in Germany for a few years in my late teens and when I returned to NZ I had lost my accent so much that new people I met used to ask me where I was from.
Same here. My accent had changed, and I spoke with the German monotone and the slower speed of German English. Then after being back in New Zealand for a while I found it hard to move my mouth and tongue to properly articulate in German. Particularly as I had been in the far north of Germany where clear, textbook pronunciation was the norm in High German.
americans basically have no exposure to the NZ and very little to the australian accent so that is most likely why they have such a hard time imitating it. people in OZ and NZ have tons of exposure to different american accents so it's alot easier.
As a New Zealander who's never left the country, I can agree that these accents are horrendous and don't reflect our accent at all. I'll give these actors credit, though, a Kiwi accent is really hard unless you are a native New Zealander.
Its really interesting. Sir Anthony Hopkin's accent was so obviously someone who was not Kiwi trying to do a kiwi accent. I think I would have got that even out of context. I had no idea I could spot such a thing. On the other hand, Stephen Colbert's kiwi accent just sounded sort of South African to me.. probably not to someone from South Africa though.
My last UK ancestor entered NZ over 100 years ago, and I was raised on guys like Phillip Sherry and Dougal Stevenson - all my life I have had even other kiwis ask if I am English 😂
@@Isdale 'Did my link show up?" nope. Interesting if you can, but it doesn't matter, It's the NZ accent that we're discussing, not expertise in imitating an individual.
no ,no way near it ,to hear him talk was like a bit of a mix between American twang and British ,i am a Southlander ,when you hear the boy speak then you hear how we talk
Yeah, I was disappointed by Sir Anthony's attempt at a Southland accent. But I was born in Invercargill, but can't do a decent Southland accent on account of not living there for so many years, so I know how hard it can be. But there was an uncanny valley in his accent. It just didn't work. I would suggest that any actors wanting to try the Kiwi accent, watch Flight of the Conchords for 24 hours straight.
Someone brang up in the comments that I think is very important. Anthony was born in 1899. Growing up back then alot of people would of spoken the queens English. My grandma would and we aren't posh.
@@RolfHarrison Oh yeah, nah. It's more akin to the Lowland Scots "r", which was the major influence on the Otago and Southland accent and grammar. [The wee car needs fixed.] Can be tricky to differentiate Irish and Scots accents sometimes though due to the similarities arising from the same Middle Irish origin.
Whenever my US friends start talking about Kiwi accents I show them that one ghost chips drink driving video. Then I have to explain that yes, we call it "drink driving". it's always a good time
My father from Dunedin said fast and dance in the way the USA does and he sounded quite like my father’s generation who was born in 1904. I think if you listened to recordings of men born the late 1800s and early 1900s you would find more similarities in Hopkins take on the accent.
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
Anthony Hopkins is copying a Southland accent from last century. It’s spot on bro (I I’m from there so I know they sound completely different than the rest of NZ, especially last century when there was more of an Old English influence).
The New Zealand accent, or New Zealand English (NZE), is distinct due to several unique features. It includes significant vowel shifts, such as the short "i" in "fish" sounding like "fush," and the "e" in "bed" sounding like "bid." NZE also merges vowel sounds, making "beer" and "bear" sound similar. As a non-rhotic accent, the "r" at the end of words is often not pronounced unless followed by a vowel. The vocabulary of NZE incorporates many Māori words, reflecting the country’s indigenous heritage. Regional variations add further uniqueness to NZE. In the North Island, Aucklanders might have a more pronounced diphthong, while the South Island’s Otago and Southland regions exhibit a "Southland burr" due to Scottish influence. Wellington's accent is more neutral, influenced by its diverse population and bureaucratic culture. Additionally, NZE has been influenced by accents from other English-speaking countries, particularly Australia and the UK, contributing to its distinct sound within the English language.
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I always pick up my ears when I hear a genuine Kiwi accent (beforehand I didnt know who was starring as Korg, but from that first line in the cinema I was obviously a kiwi). One important thing many non Kiwis miss is the regional variation between, say, Auckland and Dunedin. We notice.
Im not so offended by Anthony Hopkins attempt; since Munro was from the time when there was still a strong prevelance of the transatlantic accent and influence of the British in the way we speak. If you listen to him on his doco 'Offerings to the God of Speed'; Munro didnt have a strict "Kiwi" accent but a little muddled. Hopkins while messing up a bit of it; does actually capture some of his more British pronounciation. The rest though sound closer to Aussies than kiwis; with their hard A's and their emphasis on some of the sounds. imo one of the best in the business for doing a kiwi accents, and accents in general is Saoirse Ronan. Scottish, American, Swedish, Australian, Kiwi. She is incredible.
If you've ever heard recordings of the real Bert you'd know that Hopkins got his accent pretty perfect. It's Bert's accent, not your average Kiwi accent. Possibly not even the typical Southland accent. My wife's dad was from Invercargill, and she reckons it's pretty close to his accent.
I've heard recordings of Burt and while there are some quirks to his speech, it's still an undeniably kiwi accent that he had that Anthony Hopkins doesn't get close to imo.
I don't think Dee Bradley Baker was really going for a new Zealand accent. I think he was doing a loose interpretation of temeura Morrison and he varies it between the clones to create some individuality to make certain characters more distinct than just slight differences in appearance In fact, I swear I remember some of the clones kinda having completely different accents altogether. So I don't think nailing a certain accent was the focus but more of getting a certain sound if that makes sense. Besides it's not like these are characters actually from new Zealand since new Zealand doesn't exist in star wars(at least to my knowledge)
I’m a kiwi. Mr Hopkins accent heavily reminded me of my grandfather who grew up in Southland. Born 1911. It’s definitely not a classic kiwi sounding accent. I thought AH nailed 1940s Southland.
I saw some shorts from the main actor of a handmaid's tale in a crime drama where she played a new zilder... It was respectably good from what I remember.
Awesome video to stumble across, love the kiwi accent. Lived in oz for 9 years , always sounded like a kiwi over there got back home and found out I had an Aussie accent 😵💫
I'm an American who has lived in New Zealand for 38 years and I STILL can't do a Kiwi accent! Yet, when I go back to California, people ask me where I'm from.
From a "pom" in NZ 30+ years. To those around me here I still sound like a pom (or someone once said a kiwi who had been to a "posh school"). When I go back to the old country I am told I sound like a bit like an Antipodean. So, a bit of "kiwi" might have rubbed off on me; might helf that my natural "accent" is kind of South East London (NOT cockney - very different, and my accent has been modified by a number of years in Yorkshire) which some say is the closest English accent to Australian. From observation of New Zealanders (and even more so Aussies) they tend not to open their mouths much when speaking. So, to sound Kiwi, maybe imitate a SE London accent and don't open your mouth much - which kind of contradicts what they teach in drama classes to open your mouth to speak clearly. Any thoughts on that? And don't get me started on Yanks trying to sound English - (polite) words fail me!!
Laughing cos, l had no idea any of them WERE attempting a kiwi accent. Sir Anthony, at least gave it a proper crack. Edited cos, bugger, now l want a jelly tip. 😊
Love the video and your channel bro. What about Keria Knightley in Everest? Wasn't perfect but I think she got pretty damn close. Gotta respect any actor who gives it a go.
11:17 Peter Archer was an Australian martial artist. He had a black belt in both Goju-ryu and Shotokan karate. He was a successful fighter in Japan where Bruce Lee was present at one of his matches during a martial arts tournament, Lee asked him after his fight if he wanted a small part in his movie "Enter the Dragon", Archer said yes. Archers voice was over dubbed by another actor as the Director didn't think his Australian accent was "New Zealand" enough. Peter Archer died of cancer in April 2000.
I think it was pretty close for that generation.. Kiwi English has evolved over the years. I recall older family who are no longer living speaking "funny" as a kid and it was merely queen's english. I'm 50 btw.
To be fair, Anthonys performance, it's very close to sounding like how Burt Munroe spoke. He didn't say fast right. But his west country vibes were spot on to how the guy actually spoke.
I watched an interview with Burt Munro and while his accent has one or two definite Southland characteristics, to me it's still a very "kiwi" accent that Anthony Hopkins doesn't get close to. But that's just me though.
@@newzealandstories5621 I'm definitely with you he gets the UK sounds kinda right, but the new Zealand vowels he struggles with. Just thought it was worth mentioning he did pretty well with a really hard accent to do. Like the regional UK accent was more faithful to the performance than expected. Not a traditional kiwi accent. The other kiwi accents in this video .. my god lol. Atrocious. And what's with enders game! Maximum moko energy be cringe.
I've lived in NZ for over 16 years and I couldn't do the standard NZ accent if my life literally depended on it. I can kinda mimic my wife and her family sort of, but only if I repeat their exact words. I can't just speak my own words in their accent, it always turns into Australian or British. I find the Maori NZ accent to be much easier, but even that is very difficult. I use to think it was a lack of exposure. I grew up in California and NZ accents are very rarely heard while Aus/British accents are very commonly heard. After living here so long I don't think it much to do with exposure. I suspect it is partly due to the fact that the NZ accent is very mild. It doesn't have a lot of harsh exaggerated or sharp markers. I think it's easier to a thick accent than it is to do a vague one, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. The NZ standard shares so many sounds with Aus/Brit accents I still find it sometimes hard to seperate them without hearing certain words.
Hopkins wasn’t too bad. My Grandads who were his generation had a little of that sound to their voice, which still had a little of that received English thing going on. As a Welshman he was probably smart to lean more into that. He had enough of an R roll going on to get the Southland accent across too. Overall I thought it worked pretty well because he didn’t try to over cook it.
Trying to do a new Zealand accent just doesnt work because there are WAY too many variables. Some people have a really noticable accent (stereotypical Maori accent i guess) sometimes they can sound completely different or even sound british
For me it will always be LMAO as a Kiwi watching Tem as the base clone all standing in a room potentially intoning his classic Once for Warrior's line of "Cook the man some f&ckin eggs"... to which the whisper goes around the clones: "Eggs, eggs,eggs..." I could never take Star Wars seriously from that point forwards (and saved myself a lot of money and grief).
New Zealanders use something that us North Americans just don't use. It's like the back of the throat and a crazy tongue-throat movement that I don't think we have any experience in whatsoever. I can do other accents relatively well, but the New Zealand accent alludes me still.
I'm American born, moved to aussie at 4 and NZ at 5. Lived in the south island my whole life and atill never lost my US accent. People still ask if I'm on holiday or if I recently moved 😅
My accent changes depending on who I'm speaking with personally. It becomes more lazy/Maori sounding around workmates but more posh/Aucklandish around family
anthony hopkins justs sounds himself in the movie - I never thought as a kiwi he was putting on an accent at all - just slight deviations from his normal accent
Its almost impossible for a reason.. My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
@Shane McDowall That's not what I heard but it sounds possible,but still as an Aussie he was taking the piss out of us kiwis,well done.( I was surprised as he'll when I heard it the first time I saw the movie in 1983).
This just popped up - nice clup! Ender's Game was ruined for me by Kingsley's performance, that kinda crushed and strangled Jaapie variant. Seriously, did the voice coaching come from listening to rugby commentators? I can't relate to Gutenberg. I'll always chuckle thinking of his namecheck in the Simpson's conspiracy theory episode on the Stonecutters - "who keeps the aliens under wraps / ... / who holds back the electric car, who makes Steve Gutenberg a star...?"
A slightly better example is Elizabeth Moss in Top of The Lake. You can tell she did her homework! Ultimately though, I wish they would just hire New Zealand actors for these roles.
Hopkins was criticised for his accent at the time. I had never enjoyed his acting up until "Indian" in which I thought he played the role brilliantly. (And I haven't enjoyed his work since.) Sure, he had some strange pronunciations, but doesn't everyone (who isn't me). I'm a Kiwi and my family have been here since 1840 but even some other Kiwis, along with Britons and Americans, have taken me for English. I have no pretensions. I was just taught to speak properly, not with any sort of accent, as my parents did. I'd consider bothsides of the family lower middle class or aspiring middle class. My wife was born in Auckland to two Irish immigrants but sometimes I have difficulty understanding her because of her kiwi accent (Ellen for Alan etc). Her sister has lived in Australia and America, and like sometime PM Jim Bolger comes home with the accent from where she has been, but generally she now speaks strine.
Best NZ accent I've heard was a chap on the red chair on Graham Norton. There was a while there, a few years ago, where heaps of NZers were getting on the red chair. Dude was amazingly good at the accent and had everyone fooled, but you could just hear a touch of exaggeration which gave it away.
I find it really funny that Star Wars bought Morrison back to voice Boss in Republic Commandos. But Sev, Scorch and Fixer, his pod mates, dont have the accent dispite being together their whole lives
Vast majority of Aussies can’t do a decent Kiwi accent. My mate from Yorkshire sounds ridiculous when he does even Aussie accents despite living here nearly 25 years lol
Tony Hopkins was given a double whammy. Not only a New Zealand accent but a *Southland* accent. When I was in the UK, I hammed up the Southland accent and my boss said that it sounded a bit like a "West Country accent with an Antipodean twang" - which is pretty good. I mean, for all the NZ actors who are supposed to be Inverrrrcarrrgil residents, borrrrn and bred, *none* of them even attempted a Southland accent! Now none of them had *any* excuse! Tim Shadbolt? Really?!!
I think Anthony Hopkins accent works a little because Burt was born in 1899 and grew up in the early 1900s when White New Zealanders still tries to speak the queens English. A lot of his generation kind of sounded like that.
Your spot on its evolution accents change over time.
@@joyperich7342 Director Roger Donaldson, an Aussie from Victoria, said that Burt was known for his strange accent.
I thought he nailed the Invercargill accent.
I think its just someone who's got no idea how to do the accent
the reason he nailed it is because he came here and stayed a while and spoke and hung out with the locals.
That didgeridoo music when Steve Gutenberg points to the Kiwi emblem on his tshirt 😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄
You mean the Yidaki
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
Anthony Hopkins may not have hit the accent perfectly, yet his mannerisms of an old Kiwi bloke were spot on!
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
That last guy got the New Zealand mullet correct however.
meh it looks more aussie
Far some the mullets here in nz are hori asf 😂 others 👌🏼
It comes up the sides too much
damn, the mnullets booming down in Southland, so many young guys rocking them again!
"Why cant Americans do a New Zealand accent"
**proceeds to use two Brits as an example**
Still closer than using yanks
Why would we want to?
Americans are literally British.
Same thing
@@dodovolcano BRUH!!!!!!!!!!
I was in a cafe flicking through a magazine and it had a photo of Temuera Morrison. I glanced up randomly and he was sitting outside. Went over and showed him. Talked about 'Aquaman'. He said "Thought I was getting the lead eh, but they gave it to that handsome fulla". Was going to tell him he wasn't in Guatemala anymore but I chickened out lol
He likely appreciated the chickening out
@@tanepukenga1421 yeah he's probably been hearing that forever eh 😉
What are the chances 😂😊
Probably a good idea, you don't want to get egg on your face
The best Kiwi accent by an American was by Michael J Fox when he was in Wellington, when here for filming Peter Jackson's The Frighteners.
Frighteners was set in America.
@@MajorCatas It was, but it was filmed in Dunedin, NZ.
@@ericwolff6059and he did a Kiwi accent in the movie?
@@RaccoonCityPDNo, it was an interview on tele while he was in Wellington, either just before or just after filming.
@@ericwolff6059 Nice I'll look it up and see if I can find it. Thanks Eric 💪
When Steve Guttenberg's character tried to do a New Zealand accent my reaction was "That's the worst fake Aussie accent I've ever heard".
But in that film the accent was supposed to be shit. That was the entire point.
He sounded like he was trying to do Mel Gibson in Mad Max
@@quasarsphere want to explain this a bit more?
@@boigercat Guttenberg was playing an American whose sister had talked him into pretending to be from New Zealand.
@@quasarsphere oh that's hilarious now I gotta watch it
In order to do a New Zealand accent, you need to understand our mindset, which can be defined as "She'll be right" when things are good, and "Go Hard" when things are bad. The laid back attitude and the transition to intensity manifests itself within the accent. We speak in a laid back manner, as a result our vowels shift to where they require less physical effort to actually enunciate them, there is less emphasis on pronunciation and more emphasis of efficient communication. This can also be seen is the somewhat low-key hoarse manner of speaker, which is actually more noticeable in women, because most female English speakers outside NZ do not speak in this manner. But, when a speaker wishes to indicate importance, the speed of their speech increases and tonality is emphasized. I heard you do this between 10:57 to 11:09 - both the emphasis on speed, and mid-sentence tonal inflection, is done to indicate importance to the listener. Once this is understood, emulating a general Kiwi accent would become a lot easier, it is an "easy does it" way of behaving, and this is reflected in our speech.
Now that's a detailed observation! Hats off!
Aw true mah bro
Top notch. I've often thought we have an almost lazy way of speaking compared to other English speakers, but your description better encapsulates the manner. It's about efficiency. Waste of microseconds enunciating every word if you dun'aff'ta.
I have to say though, after coming home from 3 months in Europe, the vowel sounds were jarring. I actually cringed a bit.
Chur mah Kuzzy!!
It's simple. My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I spotted the word “fast” pronunciation straight away
It's like every American thinks we sound British or Australian.
Yeah but they can't do English or Scottish or Irish accents either, god forbid they should ever try welsh😵😵😵
I'm my travels around America I was always assumed to be English 🤷
Americans can barely understand English.
Usually a weird combination of both
Whenever I play videogames on American servers I either get called British or Australian, so you’re right.
" Don't tell her, it's me" they kept playing an Australian aboriginal didgeridoo while he is explaining Māori customs. Um... completely different cultures from completely different countries.
But in that movie, the character was an American who knew nothing about NZ, who'd been talked into pretending to be from NZ by his sister.
Fastest Indian Anthony Hopkins just sounded english to me, back in the 50s plenty of people living in NZ were born in the UK
But Burt Munro wasn't born in the UK.
@@newzealandstories5621 who cares, thats what he sounds like in the movie.
His accent didn't bother me too much but I think I just got emersed in the movie 😂
@@newzealandstories5621 Yep, but he was born in 1899 in NZ, so It's quite representative. Sir A.Hopkins studied old NZ accents from the early 20th century to try and replicate the sound.
White New Zealanders in the early 20th century possessed accents that were closer to British English (the largest proportion of colonials were from the SW country in England, which is the sound you are picking up) with a sprinkle of RP, which became more prominent with an individuals social class.
Many have had similar false perceptions regarding Major Barton in the film Gallipoli, thinking him to be a British officer, which consequently lead audiences feel derision towards the British regarding the waste of life of ANZAC troops portayed in the film, even though Major Barton was supposed to represent an Australian Officer, and the actor Bill Hunter captured the upper class Australian accent of the time very well.
@@newzealandstories5621 There's audio recordings of Burt Munro and he sounds nothing like a 21st century kiwi accent to me.
my Asian friend who speaks Mandarin but was born here in NZ said his cousins have trouble understanding some of his words when speaking the language they can hear the kiwi influence in his voice, that cracked me up heaps.
I always hear a bit of an aussie accent sneaking in when they try to do a NZ accent
Because most Americans aren't aware there's a difference.
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
@@paulfri1569 lol all of those 'kiwi' accents are horrible 🤣 when ppl try to do the kiwi accent it's really hard, easier to do an Aussie accent
I always saw the clone trooper voice as an attempted Australian accent rather than a NZ one, like the mandolorians in KOTOR2 were.
Yeah they def seem to think nz/aus accents are the same or close enough
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I lived in Germany for a few years in my late teens and when I returned to NZ I had lost my accent so much that new people I met used to ask me where I was from.
Dude, same. People kept saying I talked weird for about 8 months or so?
Same here. My accent had changed, and I spoke with the German monotone and the slower speed of German English. Then after being back in New Zealand for a while I found it hard to move my mouth and tongue to properly articulate in German. Particularly as I had been in the far north of Germany where clear, textbook pronunciation was the norm in High German.
americans basically have no exposure to the NZ and very little to the australian accent so that is most likely why they have such a hard time imitating it. people in OZ and NZ have tons of exposure to different american accents so it's alot easier.
As a New Zealander who's never left the country, I can agree that these accents are horrendous and don't reflect our accent at all. I'll give these actors credit, though, a Kiwi accent is really hard unless you are a native New Zealander.
Its really interesting. Sir Anthony Hopkin's accent was so obviously someone who was not Kiwi trying to do a kiwi accent. I think I would have got that even out of context. I had no idea I could spot such a thing.
On the other hand, Stephen Colbert's kiwi accent just sounded sort of South African to me.. probably not to someone from South Africa though.
My last UK ancestor entered NZ over 100 years ago, and I was raised on guys like Phillip Sherry and Dougal Stevenson - all my life I have had even other kiwis ask if I am English 😂
@@skipintroux4444 lol
The didgeridoo as back ground music for a "New Zealand" character who sounds like that is absolutely hilarious to me as an Aussie
E hoa, had me cracking up when you corrected the pronunciation by just saying it straight up.
If you watch an interview with Burt Munro I think you'll see Sir Anthony was pretty close
He gets certain phrases spot on, but the general tone is waay off I reckon. Doesn't have that kiwi twang at all
@@Isdale at the time and place new zealanders often sounded very english
@@Isdale Modern NZ accents are quite far removed from early to mid 20th century kiwi accents.
@@rjlchristie you can literally hear burt munro speak on youtube. Did my link show up?
@@Isdale 'Did my link show up?"
nope.
Interesting if you can, but it doesn't matter, It's the NZ accent that we're discussing, not expertise in imitating an individual.
My father in law was a Southlander, of the same generation as Bert Munro. His speech was similar to the accent that Hopkins used in the film.
fake news
In southland they roll their R's .It is quite different from the rest of New Zealand. It is more like a Scottish or South of England accent .
no ,no way near it ,to hear him talk was like a bit of a mix between American twang and British ,i am a Southlander ,when you hear the boy speak then you hear how we talk
The accents in the bad batch really stood out you could tell Omega was a genuine kiwi accent
Nah she sounds australian and it hurts to hear her voice lol
@@mythicknz8203 her name is Michelle Ang she was born in Christchurch…..
@@KZ900R oh a southie, that's why she sounds weird
Dr. Karr as well and the way she’d say Oh-MEE-gah lmao
Didn't realize it was Michelle Ang doing the voice, what a call back.
Yeah, I was disappointed by Sir Anthony's attempt at a Southland accent. But I was born in Invercargill, but can't do a decent Southland accent on account of not living there for so many years, so I know how hard it can be. But there was an uncanny valley in his accent. It just didn't work. I would suggest that any actors wanting to try the Kiwi accent, watch Flight of the Conchords for 24 hours straight.
Someone brang up in the comments that I think is very important. Anthony was born in 1899. Growing up back then alot of people would of spoken the queens English. My grandma would and we aren't posh.
You Kind of pronounce the r,s in an Irish way, otherwise your sweet
@@RolfHarrison Oh yeah, nah. It's more akin to the Lowland Scots "r", which was the major influence on the Otago and Southland accent and grammar. [The wee car needs fixed.] Can be tricky to differentiate Irish and Scots accents sometimes though due to the similarities arising from the same Middle Irish origin.
Well, I'm German, but pretty sure I could do a better Kiwi accent...
I'm quite with you in your observations.
Cheers bro 😉
Maybe, depends on how hard of a German accent you have 😅
I wonder why Hollywood wouldn’t cast a New Zealander to play a New Zealander ?
Because NZ doesn't really exist. It is an April Fools joke started by the British director Peter Jackson.
@@gstgst6334TIL I've been living in Britain my whole life. Hope that makes a trip to Europe cheaper and less travel time.
Racism
@@starsneptunexx what do u mean ?
@@gstgst6334 As a Kiwi I can comfirm we arent real
Whenever my US friends start talking about Kiwi accents I show them that one ghost chips drink driving video. Then I have to explain that yes, we call it "drink driving".
it's always a good time
Minus 1 jelly tip, that's harsh.
My father from Dunedin said fast and dance in the way the USA does and he sounded quite like my father’s generation who was born in 1904. I think if you listened to recordings of men born the late 1800s and early 1900s you would find more similarities in Hopkins take on the accent.
Oops “in the way a speaker from the USA does”
Gutenberg was deliberately doing a bad accent because the character is an imposter.
So there is no example of an American doing a New Zealand accent in the video then. 🤔😂
@@berranari1 the clone wars guy is all there is
My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
Anthony Hopkins is copying a Southland accent from last century. It’s spot on bro (I
I’m from there so I know they sound completely different than the rest of NZ, especially last century when there was more of an Old English influence).
Did he come from gorrrrre
The New Zealand accent, or New Zealand English (NZE), is distinct due to several unique features. It includes significant vowel shifts, such as the short "i" in "fish" sounding like "fush," and the "e" in "bed" sounding like "bid." NZE also merges vowel sounds, making "beer" and "bear" sound similar. As a non-rhotic accent, the "r" at the end of words is often not pronounced unless followed by a vowel. The vocabulary of NZE incorporates many Māori words, reflecting the country’s indigenous heritage.
Regional variations add further uniqueness to NZE. In the North Island, Aucklanders might have a more pronounced diphthong, while the South Island’s Otago and Southland regions exhibit a "Southland burr" due to Scottish influence. Wellington's accent is more neutral, influenced by its diverse population and bureaucratic culture. Additionally, NZE has been influenced by accents from other English-speaking countries, particularly Australia and the UK, contributing to its distinct sound within the English language.
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My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
I didnt even know d bradley baker was trying to do a new zealand accent
I always pick up my ears when I hear a genuine Kiwi accent (beforehand I didnt know who was starring as Korg, but from that first line in the cinema I was obviously a kiwi). One important thing many non Kiwis miss is the regional variation between, say, Auckland and Dunedin. We notice.
Im not so offended by Anthony Hopkins attempt; since Munro was from the time when there was still a strong prevelance of the transatlantic accent and influence of the British in the way we speak. If you listen to him on his doco 'Offerings to the God of Speed'; Munro didnt have a strict "Kiwi" accent but a little muddled. Hopkins while messing up a bit of it; does actually capture some of his more British pronounciation.
The rest though sound closer to Aussies than kiwis; with their hard A's and their emphasis on some of the sounds.
imo one of the best in the business for doing a kiwi accents, and accents in general is Saoirse Ronan. Scottish, American, Swedish, Australian, Kiwi. She is incredible.
If you've ever heard recordings of the real Bert you'd know that Hopkins got his accent pretty perfect.
It's Bert's accent, not your average Kiwi accent. Possibly not even the typical Southland accent.
My wife's dad was from Invercargill, and she reckons it's pretty close to his accent.
I've heard recordings of Burt and while there are some quirks to his speech, it's still an undeniably kiwi accent that he had that Anthony Hopkins doesn't get close to imo.
"It reminds me of ham, and a man needs a bitter ham in his pocket". Oh Steve Guttenberg, you gave me a giggle!
I don't think Dee Bradley Baker was really going for a new Zealand accent. I think he was doing a loose interpretation of temeura Morrison and he varies it between the clones to create some individuality to make certain characters more distinct than just slight differences in appearance
In fact, I swear I remember some of the clones kinda having completely different accents altogether. So I don't think nailing a certain accent was the focus but more of getting a certain sound if that makes sense. Besides it's not like these are characters actually from new Zealand since new Zealand doesn't exist in star wars(at least to my knowledge)
I’m a kiwi. Mr Hopkins accent heavily reminded me of my grandfather who grew up in Southland. Born 1911. It’s definitely not a classic kiwi sounding accent. I thought AH nailed 1940s Southland.
Yeah man for real haha it's not like Munro was gonna sound like some Bundy from south Auckland in 2011 or something aye
Don't Tell Her It's Me is one of my favourite movies.
This scene still cracks me up completely.
(I'm Australian.)
I saw some shorts from the main actor of a handmaid's tale in a crime drama where she played a new zilder... It was respectably good from what I remember.
Awesome video to stumble across, love the kiwi accent. Lived in oz for 9 years , always sounded like a kiwi over there got back home and found out I had an Aussie accent 😵💫
I'm an American who has lived in New Zealand for 38 years and I STILL can't do a Kiwi accent! Yet, when I go back to California, people ask me where I'm from.
What about Patrick Duffy on Love Boat, from a sheep station in New Zealand
A sheep station in NZ is the equivalent of a romantic destination lol!
And not a single one of them said "fush and chups"
From a "pom" in NZ 30+ years. To those around me here I still sound like a pom (or someone once said a kiwi who had been to a "posh school"). When I go back to the old country I am told I sound like a bit like an Antipodean. So, a bit of "kiwi" might have rubbed off on me; might helf that my natural "accent" is kind of South East London (NOT cockney - very different, and my accent has been modified by a number of years in Yorkshire) which some say is the closest English accent to Australian. From observation of New Zealanders (and even more so Aussies) they tend not to open their mouths much when speaking. So, to sound Kiwi, maybe imitate a SE London accent and don't open your mouth much - which kind of contradicts what they teach in drama classes to open your mouth to speak clearly. Any thoughts on that? And don't get me started on Yanks trying to sound English - (polite) words fail me!!
And that's to say nothing of the digeridoo in the soundtrack of that Guttenberg movie...
Laughing cos, l had no idea any of them WERE attempting a kiwi accent. Sir Anthony, at least gave it a proper crack.
Edited cos, bugger, now l want a jelly tip. 😊
My most hated faux accent is Ben Kingsley's "Maori" accent in Enders Game.
Love the video and your channel bro. What about Keria Knightley in Everest? Wasn't perfect but I think she got pretty damn close. Gotta respect any actor who gives it a go.
steve gutenburgs accent is the best one even though like many he sounds more like an aussie lol , who makes
steve gunteburg a star,we do we doo we do
Alexis Arquette's NZ accent in "Jack Be Nimble" was excellent!
Haha... your imitations are spot on and so funny!
Sean Schemmel who does the voice acting for goku can do a perfect nz accent
11:17 Peter Archer was an Australian martial artist. He had a black belt in both Goju-ryu and Shotokan karate. He was a successful fighter in Japan where Bruce Lee was present at one of his matches during a martial arts tournament, Lee asked him after his fight if he wanted a small part in his movie "Enter the Dragon", Archer said yes. Archers voice was over dubbed by another actor as the Director didn't think his Australian accent was "New Zealand" enough.
Peter Archer died of cancer in April 2000.
I think it was pretty close for that generation.. Kiwi English has evolved over the years. I recall older family who are no longer living speaking "funny" as a kid and it was merely queen's english. I'm 50 btw.
To be fair, Anthonys performance, it's very close to sounding like how Burt Munroe spoke. He didn't say fast right. But his west country vibes were spot on to how the guy actually spoke.
I watched an interview with Burt Munro and while his accent has one or two definite Southland characteristics, to me it's still a very "kiwi" accent that Anthony Hopkins doesn't get close to. But that's just me though.
@@newzealandstories5621 I'm definitely with you he gets the UK sounds kinda right, but the new Zealand vowels he struggles with. Just thought it was worth mentioning he did pretty well with a really hard accent to do. Like the regional UK accent was more faithful to the performance than expected. Not a traditional kiwi accent. The other kiwi accents in this video .. my god lol. Atrocious. And what's with enders game! Maximum moko energy be cringe.
I've lived in NZ for over 16 years and I couldn't do the standard NZ accent if my life literally depended on it. I can kinda mimic my wife and her family sort of, but only if I repeat their exact words. I can't just speak my own words in their accent, it always turns into Australian or British. I find the Maori NZ accent to be much easier, but even that is very difficult.
I use to think it was a lack of exposure. I grew up in California and NZ accents are very rarely heard while Aus/British accents are very commonly heard. After living here so long I don't think it much to do with exposure. I suspect it is partly due to the fact that the NZ accent is very mild. It doesn't have a lot of harsh exaggerated or sharp markers. I think it's easier to a thick accent than it is to do a vague one, even if it isn't perfectly accurate. The NZ standard shares so many sounds with Aus/Brit accents I still find it sometimes hard to seperate them without hearing certain words.
Hopkins wasn’t too bad. My Grandads who were his generation had a little of that sound to their voice, which still had a little of that received English thing going on. As a Welshman he was probably smart to lean more into that. He had enough of an R roll going on to get the Southland accent across too. Overall I thought it worked pretty well because he didn’t try to over cook it.
there’s also the last scene of Wolf of Wall Street where they’re meant to be in Auckland at a conference. i’m not even sure what they’re trying to do.
You should try rocket power cartoon when they visit New Zealand
Wasn't Burt Monroe form Invercargill hench the accent?
Trying to do a new Zealand accent just doesnt work because there are WAY too many variables. Some people have a really noticable accent (stereotypical Maori accent i guess) sometimes they can sound completely different or even sound british
Pretty sure the only person who could do it is Leonardo, his South African accent in Blood Diamonds is good
Ahh yes, that classic NZ digeridoo sound in Guttenberg's movie
i forgot about the enter the dragon bit!
world's fastest indian is a great movie, love it. Sir A needed more dialogue coaching for sure.
For me it will always be LMAO as a Kiwi watching Tem as the base clone all standing in a room potentially intoning his classic Once for Warrior's line of "Cook the man some f&ckin eggs"... to which the whisper goes around the clones: "Eggs, eggs,eggs..." I could never take Star Wars seriously from that point forwards (and saved myself a lot of money and grief).
Anthony did a brilliant job.
He sounds like Burt.
Steve Gutenberg doesn't sound anything like a New Zealander... but he definitely looks like one!
As a New Zealander myself, I can rock a mean kiwi accent
New Zealanders use something that us North Americans just don't use. It's like the back of the throat and a crazy tongue-throat movement that I don't think we have any experience in whatsoever. I can do other accents relatively well, but the New Zealand accent alludes me still.
I'm American born, moved to aussie at 4 and NZ at 5. Lived in the south island my whole life and atill never lost my US accent. People still ask if I'm on holiday or if I recently moved 😅
My accent changes depending on who I'm speaking with personally. It becomes more lazy/Maori sounding around workmates but more posh/Aucklandish around family
Its quite easy. Kiwis speak from their chests. From the heart. We South Africans know.
AROHA NUI SOUTH AFRICA 💪🏾🇳🇿
anthony hopkins justs sounds himself in the movie - I never thought as a kiwi he was putting on an accent at all - just slight deviations from his normal accent
Its almost impossible for a reason.. My friend says the kiwi accents is like a wannabe snob type getting punched in the face.. while In shock they talk back like they're petrified just like the Kiwi accent spoken today ..
oh my god what was the last one
Bastardised Irish.?
The guy in from Enter The Dragon was an Aussie who was taking the piss out of us,well done.
Actually, Bob Parker's voice was overdubbed in the movie, because his accent did not sound "New Zealand enough".
@Shane McDowall That's not what I heard but it sounds possible,but still as an Aussie he was taking the piss out of us kiwis,well done.( I was surprised as he'll when I heard it the first time I saw the movie in 1983).
@@bb21again.67 I saw the movie in 1973. The story is true.
Or how about,just Getting Richie mcCaw to play all the NZ roles in movies now on
ill give you 20 pinapple lumps out of 10 for your accent
😂😂😂 omg the commentary is hilarious! Subscribed
nah its crack up
Harvey Keitel from "The Piano" woukd have been an interesting addition :-)
This just popped up - nice clup! Ender's Game was ruined for me by Kingsley's performance, that kinda crushed and strangled Jaapie variant. Seriously, did the voice coaching come from listening to rugby commentators?
I can't relate to Gutenberg. I'll always chuckle thinking of his namecheck in the Simpson's conspiracy theory episode on the Stonecutters - "who keeps the aliens under wraps / ... / who holds back the electric car, who makes Steve Gutenberg a star...?"
Was always fascinated with Kiwis in overseas movies. How the hell did i never hear about the Steve Guttenberg movie.
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A slightly better example is Elizabeth Moss in Top of The Lake. You can tell she did her homework! Ultimately though, I wish they would just hire New Zealand actors for these roles.
Hopkins was criticised for his accent at the time.
I had never enjoyed his acting up until "Indian" in which I thought he played the role brilliantly.
(And I haven't enjoyed his work since.)
Sure, he had some strange pronunciations, but doesn't everyone (who isn't me).
I'm a Kiwi and my family have been here since 1840 but even some other Kiwis, along with Britons and Americans, have taken me for English.
I have no pretensions. I was just taught to speak properly, not with any sort of accent, as my parents did.
I'd consider bothsides of the family lower middle class or aspiring middle class.
My wife was born in Auckland to two Irish immigrants but sometimes I have difficulty understanding her because of her kiwi accent (Ellen for Alan etc). Her sister has lived in Australia and America, and like sometime PM Jim Bolger comes home with the accent from where she has been, but generally she now speaks strine.
You gotta remember the Anthony Hopkins Southland accent is different from the rest of Aotearoa from Gorrre to Inverrrcarrgill
Best NZ accent I've heard was a chap on the red chair on Graham Norton. There was a while there, a few years ago, where heaps of NZers were getting on the red chair. Dude was amazingly good at the accent and had everyone fooled, but you could just hear a touch of exaggeration which gave it away.
i am scarred from that 'lobo marunga' accent
I've lived in new Zealand 20 years and I changed my vocabulary, but can't lose my American accent
Hollywood: New Zealanders are basically Australians right?
"it's an old Merry custom" 😅😅😅 damn...
I find it really funny that Star Wars bought Morrison back to voice Boss in Republic Commandos. But Sev, Scorch and Fixer, his pod mates, dont have the accent dispite being together their whole lives
Apart from Guttenberg's bad accent i don't know why there is a digeridoo playing! :-(
It's that classic bad habit of other countries to just constantly associate New Zealand with Australia.
Vast majority of Aussies can’t do a decent Kiwi accent.
My mate from Yorkshire sounds ridiculous when he does even Aussie accents despite living here nearly 25 years lol
can you review Kyle Hill's NZ accent next? Someone needs to call him out on it because I'm getting real tired of it.
Tony Hopkins was given a double whammy. Not only a New Zealand accent but a *Southland* accent. When I was in the UK, I hammed up the Southland accent and my boss said that it sounded a bit like a "West Country accent with an Antipodean twang" - which is pretty good.
I mean, for all the NZ actors who are supposed to be Inverrrrcarrrgil residents, borrrrn and bred, *none* of them even attempted a Southland accent! Now none of them had *any* excuse! Tim Shadbolt? Really?!!