@@doubledekercouch early amraams wouldnt even break the game, all these ppl acting like it would change the entire game are nuts other nations are gonna get way better fox3s unless gaijin adds the late amraam models
not entirely true. The MH added Lofting and the P added the DL. Only the Navy used the 7P as they were the only ones who added the datalink required to their planes like the F-18. neither the DL and Lofting would make they compete in any way to an ER.
@@vma025 yeah, I mean the early versions of AMRAAMs were made in the 90's, so time line wise it would make sense to see the AMRAAM across different nations (I'm talking Aim-120 and R-77 for context)
I wish that the aim-7s for the f15 (and for the f-16c and future hornets) were upgraded to the aim-7p or mh standard since they would perform atleast better than the current aim-7m vs r-27er battle kmrb
@Seek The R27 works with data link, but also in tandem with INS (Inertial Navigation System) in which the missile is capable of making a series of calculations according to the target's last known course, heading, speed and trajectory, and make the adjustments in order to intercept. According to experts, the AIM-7M doesn't have data link, but the upgraded AIM-7P does.
The 7f was actually such a blessing to get buffed because it brings the F4-J back to fight all of the F5 and the MIG spam at top tier. F4S as well because I have a friend who recently bought it and was pissed at the sheer frustration of losing a lock for half a second and your missile just exploding without any chance to re-lock. AquaBurrito
I agree with much of what everyone else is saying. As a sim player I’ve grown so accustomed to the TWS of other aircraft like the F-16, F-14 and Mirage 2k so it’s difficult for me to see past that lack of information
As a sim player, the f15 is good... but i really miss having tws. And the 9m and r73 especially usually ends dogfights in 1 or 2 turns. Makes me miss the extra long mig29 vs f14 rate fights i used to love
Right now, Air RB really needs a BR decompression, Phantoms and Mig-23s have no business fighting the likes of F-15 and SU-27. Either that or just add 12.7 minascharnie
What i really find useful about this 7f “buff” is that it does not explode instantly. So if you loose lock few seconds before it actually hits target it kinds of follow its path and if enemy does not pay extra attention to it, beside of standard notching, and keep its traverse path aim7f actually hits. Before this update the instant i loose target lock aim7f goes rogue. Maybe it is something bad on my side, it is just observation from perspective of my gameplay. Swagpuppy
The new buff for the aim7 is so nice cause now the aim 7 can finally not explode when the guy notched me for 1 second. Also f14 aim-9m when? burly_duck
I really i dont have a lot to say since i play with the big 3 nations on top tier, im really enjoying the su27 but since they added a lot of top tier stuff on the last update i havent had the time to play with the f15, something that really bothers me tho is the aim9L as the stock missiles on US top tier vs the stock R73, but other than that i really enjoy playing the game rn notzera1
DL does make the r-27(e)r's more capable of flying through the air and then gaining speed or just getting closer to the target while you find a juicy target to lock on to then absolutely demolish it
The F-15 is definitely the plane with the best flight performance all around. Unfortunately for it, the mediocre radar, no HMD and 2nd best radar missiles means it really lags when it comes to weaponry. The Vulcan is the best cannon right now, but bringing that to a R-73 fight really isn't conducive to your long term health. The Su-27s, M4K and Gripens just have a lot more flexibility and freedom when it comes to engagements. .sqib
Honestly I think the aim120s are not going to change the game too much. We already have had the competitors to the Aim-120s in the game, the R-27ER and ET. The Aim-120s are just going to be ETs with RWR. I think it will level the playing field and maybe people won't just fly head on into the death cloud. War Thunder needs a quality of life update desperately but I don't think they will ever do anything, or give us a new game mode. .wingwong
Man I wish they would add the AIM-7MH oR AIM-7P as well as Fox-2 + DL equivalents for other Minor nations so everyone can at least have some form of access to competent BVR without the missile going stupid because the target is out of its FOV on Re-Lock. f22a_raptor
The biggest problem is that the ER accelerates considerably quicker than the Aim-7M, and holds lock better. There are zero positives to using an Aim-7 over the ER. Good balance would actually have two missiles that each have their own positives, more or less like the R-73 / Aim-9M. chrizzyhd
Su 27 is definitely the best aircraft rn. 7M's just arent competetive against ER's with the massive difference in speed and manouvreabilty. 9M's are on par with the R73 with the smokeless motor but the IRCCM is just worse. The best part of the F15 is the flight model but the Su-27's missiles are just entirely overwhelming.
yepp, orbital strike with 9Ms is absolutely amazing. Did it with the 16C and now do it with the 15A. I still think the 16C is better at it, because it's faster and has 2 more 9Ms, but the 15A is pretty good at it too, and it's probably the best way to play it. The sparrows are an afterthought, and if I could I would swap them for more 9Ms in a heart beat.
My question is why is the r27er in the game and not the aim-7p when they (both missiles) came out in 1987. Also why do top tier USSR jets get 1980's missiles and the US is stuck with 1950-70's tech?
after getting the f16c after the f15a, i thought i was gonna much prefer the f16c, but the f15a just feels a lot more reactive to input especially at low speeds saxoyoshi
I’ve wanted to go up France ground for a while, but with them having no stabilizers, its kind of halted my grind. Getting the Amx-30 Super would really help me. Thank you for having very informative videos, looking forward to more videos next year, MAV_
I know on the F14B and f-16c you can switch between search modes between PD or normal. The f15a for some reason can not do this. It will just stay in PD mode and switch types? This just me?
If you initially lock with standard SRC/ACM, as in non-PD, you can actually switch between TRK PD and TRK. If you initially lock with SRC/ACM PD, SRC PD HDN or SRC PDV HDN, it will only allow switching between TRK PD and TRK PD HDN modes. I would suggest doing the initial lock with SRC standard then switching ASAP in order to maintain the lock for high altitudes. At low altitudes, they're probably just going to fly 2m off of the ground anyway and explode the missile.
I'll take the F-15 over the 27 in a lot of situations. Just running 9M's purely tends to work a fair bit better than hoping sparrows act normally. Espinas
I've liked the F-16C more from what I've played, personally, though I don't have either jet spaded - I do have the 9Ms and most peeformance upgrades on each, though. terrorize
There should be a pack of tutorials for top tier aircraft that go into functionality of radar, radar missiles, weapon use, etc etc. theres SO much info that you dont realize you should know cuckroachking
CinderShack (display Shacks). Do we need smaller lobbies to make air RB less of a furball? Having combat more akin to DCS would be interesting; 5.7 used to have these small lobbies when the Ju288 spam began
2:45 that mig-29G after getting "crit" by a Sparrow was flying fine lol. And I Wish that Python-3s were better and worth taking some instead of all 9Ms. cKingc05#2862
I charted, for a friend, the "quickest" way to grind to the F-15A. It's ultimately the USAAF line starting with the P-36G *and* the US attacker line starting with the A-36. Because rank VIII requires 5 vehicles from rank VII, the most efficient way to do it looks to be the two F4 Phantom II and then the A-10 and both A-7 aircraft. Which is a shame because the USN prop fighters "feel" more attuned to what War Thunder Air RB matches require. That, and both F4 Phantom II's feel wildly non-competitive. The F4E simply doesn't have, even with SARH, all-aspect missiles. The 9J isn't as useful as the 9G. The USAAF line is such a struggle. birthday_truck
Bro I'm so annoyed, I used to play Xbox but don't anymore and have been trying to convert my account over to PC but gaijan hasn't been doing transfers for seemingly a million years so I don't get some of the sales, I can't access the marketplace, and I can't do a bunch of other stuff just because gaijan is to lazy to actually help people out
The F-15 by itself is really good, its just outclassed at toptier with inferior weaponry. If i get any other jet in a 1v1 more than likely you're gonna outdogfight them, but with how important fox 1s are right now and how unreliable the 7M is it forces it to be a "bad" plane. Areyou0k
i think they need to revise the BRs of some vehicles, su27, f15, mirage 4000 should be 12.7 imo, jets like JH7a, kfir etc without SARH missiles and only have 4 max should not face these jets that have irccm missiles and sometimes 8+ missiles Allenz91
i think we can be happy that the R27er Datalink only works half. The missile does not need the Radarlock of the mothership, a secound plane can take over and home the missile in, while the plane wich launched the missile can go defence and break an incomming AIM7
The 9M is just so powerful right now that any jet that has it automatically becomes a contender for #1 jet in top tier. If the gripen didnt have 9M it would be absolute trash, the only reason its good at all is because it has 9M and goes zoom givati_il
Thats interesting cuz I fly the f15 to see if I can pick the enemy off with the AIM7s but it seems like the AIM9 as the main weapon makes more sense TravL1 as discord :)
It’s a shame that Gaijin hasn’t added some of the experimental 70-80s NATO missiles that could bridge the gap to the R-27ER or R-73. It sucks how they have to nerf flight models to balance the missile loadouts of top tier jets now. ihatedoughnuts
the 9m is leagues better than the r73 imo. I feel like unless they are fired less than 1km away, the irccm doesnt work that well and I can just flare it easily. the 9m requires you to make a turn that you probably didnt want to make and bleed a lot of speed while you're at it if you want a chance at dodging it. Martras
Good to hear the chaff pd issue has been resolved, noticed that issue on release. Havent been able to play in since update drop. Cheers for the giveaways, good idea for giving back to the community Edit: the datalink is exactly why r27r/er's can reaquire targets vs the 7m and other fox1's Albatrosswguns
F-15 or F-14B im already at rank 6 so im kind of at a crossroads atm. Ik the F-15 is meta with aim9m but i really love the F-14 it motivated me to start getting back into war thunder anyways
Giveaway is over, thanks for playing!
fuck i just watched this video and heard the deadline DAMN. thanks for doing a giveaway! keep up the vids
I wish the deadline was the first. Some people already missed it by a year
Gaijin should add the AIM-7MH or AIM-7P. Both of them are just AIM-7Ms but with DL
Yeah, or aim-120’s, it gets less missiles than the Sukhoi anyway so having them actually work would be nice
As far as I'm aware AIM-7MH in practise would only allow the missile to semi-automatically loft; AIM-7P Blk 2 is what received the datalink
@@doubledekercouch early amraams wouldnt even break the game, all these ppl acting like it would change the entire game are nuts other nations are gonna get way better fox3s unless gaijin adds the late amraam models
not entirely true. The MH added Lofting and the P added the DL. Only the Navy used the 7P as they were the only ones who added the datalink required to their planes like the F-18. neither the DL and Lofting would make they compete in any way to an ER.
@@vma025 yeah, I mean the early versions of AMRAAMs were made in the 90's, so time line wise it would make sense to see the AMRAAM across different nations (I'm talking Aim-120 and R-77 for context)
I wish that the aim-7s for the f15 (and for the f-16c and future hornets) were upgraded to the aim-7p or mh standard since they would perform atleast better than the current aim-7m vs r-27er battle
kmrb
@Seek The R27 works with data link, but also in tandem with INS (Inertial Navigation System) in which the missile is capable of making a series of calculations according to the target's last known course, heading, speed and trajectory, and make the adjustments in order to intercept. According to experts, the AIM-7M doesn't have data link, but the upgraded AIM-7P does.
"some kind of magnetic attraction to the ground" sir, that's called gravity
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The 7f was actually such a blessing to get buffed because it brings the F4-J back to fight all of the F5 and the MIG spam at top tier. F4S as well because I have a friend who recently bought it and was pissed at the sheer frustration of losing a lock for half a second and your missile just exploding without any chance to re-lock.
AquaBurrito
"I have some magnetic attraction to the ground" had me rolling
I agree with much of what everyone else is saying. As a sim player I’ve grown so accustomed to the TWS of other aircraft like the F-16, F-14 and Mirage 2k so it’s difficult for me to see past that lack of information
F-20 should be added as a folder aircraft for F-5E I think it is a part of pre-4th gen history
batufpv
I’ve been waiting for a F-20 for ages
I need it.
As a sim player, the f15 is good... but i really miss having tws. And the 9m and r73 especially usually ends dogfights in 1 or 2 turns. Makes me miss the extra long mig29 vs f14 rate fights i used to love
Yoo i was in your game yesterday!
Bro... you want us to write our discord names in a public comment section? Cant see any way that could go wrong lol
I hope that if and when they add fox 3's that they don't allow them to be spammed then for people to RTB and have the F14 effect.
kuyees
Right now, Air RB really needs a BR decompression, Phantoms and Mig-23s have no business fighting the likes of F-15 and SU-27. Either that or just add 12.7
minascharnie
What i really find useful about this 7f “buff” is that it does not explode instantly. So if you loose lock few seconds before it actually hits target it kinds of follow its path and if enemy does not pay extra attention to it, beside of standard notching, and keep its traverse path aim7f actually hits. Before this update the instant i loose target lock aim7f goes rogue. Maybe it is something bad on my side, it is just observation from perspective of my gameplay.
Swagpuppy
1:45 Sick Visuals 😂😂
Where is the missile not, not where is it grasshopper
No, sparrows have their own FOV, if the enemy can be seen by the missile, it can still re-acquire the target
The new buff for the aim7 is so nice cause now the aim 7 can finally not explode when the guy notched me for 1 second. Also f14 aim-9m when?
burly_duck
I honestly cant wait for the Eurofighter. I would love to see it in game
I really i dont have a lot to say since i play with the big 3 nations on top tier, im really enjoying the su27 but since they added a lot of top tier stuff on the last update i havent had the time to play with the f15, something that really bothers me tho is the aim9L as the stock missiles on US top tier vs the stock R73, but other than that i really enjoy playing the game rn
notzera1
DL does make the r-27(e)r's more capable of flying through the air and then gaining speed or just getting closer to the target while you find a juicy target to lock on to then absolutely demolish it
The F-15 is definitely the plane with the best flight performance all around. Unfortunately for it, the mediocre radar, no HMD and 2nd best radar missiles means it really lags when it comes to weaponry. The Vulcan is the best cannon right now, but bringing that to a R-73 fight really isn't conducive to your long term health.
The Su-27s, M4K and Gripens just have a lot more flexibility and freedom when it comes to engagements.
.sqib
I have been using f15 for a while. Using the 'Orbital Strike' tactic with AIM 9M is really effective. Just gotta becareful with 27ER tho.
clocho
Honestly I think the aim120s are not going to change the game too much. We already have had the competitors to the Aim-120s in the game, the R-27ER and ET. The Aim-120s are just going to be ETs with RWR. I think it will level the playing field and maybe people won't just fly head on into the death cloud. War Thunder needs a quality of life update desperately but I don't think they will ever do anything, or give us a new game mode.
.wingwong
They dropped the ball on the F15. Trying to balance the flight model with sub par guided weapons is cheap and easy.
Man I wish they would add the AIM-7MH oR AIM-7P as well as Fox-2 + DL equivalents for other Minor nations so everyone can at least have some form of access to competent BVR without the missile going stupid because the target is out of its FOV on Re-Lock.
f22a_raptor
The biggest problem is that the ER accelerates considerably quicker than the Aim-7M, and holds lock better. There are zero positives to using an Aim-7 over the ER. Good balance would actually have two missiles that each have their own positives, more or less like the R-73 / Aim-9M. chrizzyhd
Don’t forget the r27 pulls like, 10Gs more too
@@SomewhatSummarized not
May you all have an excellent year, ahead of you!!
Su 27 is definitely the best aircraft rn. 7M's just arent competetive against ER's with the massive difference in speed and manouvreabilty. 9M's are on par with the R73 with the smokeless motor but the IRCCM is just worse. The best part of the F15 is the flight model but the Su-27's missiles are just entirely overwhelming.
yepp, orbital strike with 9Ms is absolutely amazing. Did it with the 16C and now do it with the 15A. I still think the 16C is better at it, because it's faster and has 2 more 9Ms, but the 15A is pretty good at it too, and it's probably the best way to play it. The sparrows are an afterthought, and if I could I would swap them for more 9Ms in a heart beat.
the r27 and 73 seem far superior to us missiles so i hope they would do something about it. toxicaim
Researching the F-15 now, looking forward to unlocking it... Need the SL to buy it, though
I don‘t have much success on my f15 battles but i will definitly try this tactic!
blackjack.
My question is why is the r27er in the game and not the aim-7p when they (both missiles) came out in 1987. Also why do top tier USSR jets get 1980's missiles and the US is stuck with 1950-70's tech?
after getting the f16c after the f15a, i thought i was gonna much prefer the f16c, but the f15a just feels a lot more reactive to input especially at low speeds
saxoyoshi
imo the Baz should've come before the Barak II, without AIM-9M just the Python 3
The only thing I really want added is a change to air rb, to 8v8 or 6v6
benjiyt
now its in
can u give some tipps 4 F-84F from germany vs missiles. its hard
seek just asking how do you zoom in with the plane but it doesn't fully zoom in?
I’ve wanted to go up France ground for a while, but with them having no stabilizers, its kind of halted my grind. Getting the Amx-30 Super would really help me. Thank you for having very informative videos, looking forward to more videos next year,
MAV_
anyone else bring out the Tomcat since the sale started? All the bombing premiums are food for the Phoenix
smallpeenmachine
I’m so close to both the f15 and su 27 I can’t wait until they add more
OCDMailbox
I know on the F14B and f-16c you can switch between search modes between PD or normal. The f15a for some reason can not do this. It will just stay in PD mode and switch types? This just me?
If you initially lock with standard SRC/ACM, as in non-PD, you can actually switch between TRK PD and TRK. If you initially lock with SRC/ACM PD, SRC PD HDN or SRC PDV HDN, it will only allow switching between TRK PD and TRK PD HDN modes. I would suggest doing the initial lock with SRC standard then switching ASAP in order to maintain the lock for high altitudes. At low altitudes, they're probably just going to fly 2m off of the ground anyway and explode the missile.
I'll take the F-15 over the 27 in a lot of situations. Just running 9M's purely tends to work a fair bit better than hoping sparrows act normally.
Espinas
I've liked the F-16C more from what I've played, personally, though I don't have either jet spaded - I do have the 9Ms and most peeformance upgrades on each, though.
terrorize
There should be a pack of tutorials for top tier aircraft that go into functionality of radar, radar missiles, weapon use, etc etc. theres SO much info that you dont realize you should know
cuckroachking
To me, the best top tier jet is probably the Gripen. it is the bane of my existence in ARB.
nebirious
I’ve noticed when you zoom in the camera isn’t as far zoomed as mine is this a setting or a game file change?
The R-27ER doesnt explode because of DL + INS ( Inertial Navigation) Basically after lock it keeps tracxking to the last know location of target
I hope aim 120 will not soon. There is so many fox1's & intermediary missiles to ad before Fox 3. Example MICA's.
CinderShack (display Shacks). Do we need smaller lobbies to make air RB less of a furball? Having combat more akin to DCS would be interesting; 5.7 used to have these small lobbies when the Ju288 spam began
2:45 that mig-29G after getting "crit" by a Sparrow was flying fine lol. And I Wish that Python-3s were better and worth taking some instead of all 9Ms.
cKingc05#2862
still grinding for the F-14A :C its been painfull
honestly i like the odds, i liek the f15 but the su27 is just more fun
implicitflower
12.0 feels so bad right now, ER powercreep should be upped to 12.7 or even 13.0 imho.
PS. Happy New Year
PS2. Wanixo
The pythons are sorta cool but honestly in my eyes they just cant compete with the good ol AAM-3’s
michaelrizzman
Its prob just me but ive been having bad luck with the F15 compared to the SU27
billybear9
I charted, for a friend, the "quickest" way to grind to the F-15A. It's ultimately the USAAF line starting with the P-36G *and* the US attacker line starting with the A-36. Because rank VIII requires 5 vehicles from rank VII, the most efficient way to do it looks to be the two F4 Phantom II and then the A-10 and both A-7 aircraft.
Which is a shame because the USN prop fighters "feel" more attuned to what War Thunder Air RB matches require. That, and both F4 Phantom II's feel wildly non-competitive. The F4E simply doesn't have, even with SARH, all-aspect missiles. The 9J isn't as useful as the 9G. The USAAF line is such a struggle.
birthday_truck
Bro I'm so annoyed, I used to play Xbox but don't anymore and have been trying to convert my account over to PC but gaijan hasn't been doing transfers for seemingly a million years so I don't get some of the sales, I can't access the marketplace, and I can't do a bunch of other stuff just because gaijan is to lazy to actually help people out
The F-15 by itself is really good, its just outclassed at toptier with inferior weaponry. If i get any other jet in a 1v1 more than likely you're gonna outdogfight them, but with how important fox 1s are right now and how unreliable the 7M is it forces it to be a "bad" plane.
Areyou0k
i think they need to revise the BRs of some vehicles, su27, f15, mirage 4000 should be 12.7 imo, jets like JH7a, kfir etc without SARH missiles and only have 4 max should not face these jets that have irccm missiles and sometimes 8+ missiles
Allenz91
What is the best f15 variant in your opinion personally im grinding out the japan version rn but was curious about your opinion
ickyshplicky
Why does the gripen not get the skyflash supertemp? Or an aim7f/m.
i think we can be happy that the R27er Datalink only works half. The missile does not need the Radarlock of the mothership, a secound plane can take over and home the missile in, while the plane wich launched the missile can go defence and break an incomming AIM7
The 9M is just so powerful right now that any jet that has it automatically becomes a contender for #1 jet in top tier. If the gripen didnt have 9M it would be absolute trash, the only reason its good at all is because it has 9M and goes zoom
givati_il
I just hope aam3 for f15j is on par with r73
pendraig54
Thats interesting cuz I fly the f15 to see if I can pick the enemy off with the AIM7s but it seems like the AIM9 as the main weapon makes more sense
TravL1 as discord :)
The possibility for fox3s is super exciting
cryooz
I cant believe that gaijin hasnt done anything to fix the imbalance of r27er vs aim7
anotheralpharius
Not related but I'm sad about the last flight model change of the draken I largely preferred the less forgiving mor turny flight model by far
Yeah i agree with you seek.. i really love the f15
It’s a shame that Gaijin hasn’t added some of the experimental 70-80s NATO missiles that could bridge the gap to the R-27ER or R-73. It sucks how they have to nerf flight models to balance the missile loadouts of top tier jets now.
ihatedoughnuts
F-15 and Su-27 are kings of BVR, and the Gripen is the best all round jet and one of the most OP jets ever added to War Thunder.
the R27ER being added to the game while the second best contender was a buggy sparrow still baffles me
kwk36
the 9m is leagues better than the r73 imo. I feel like unless they are fired less than 1km away, the irccm doesnt work that well and I can just flare it easily. the 9m requires you to make a turn that you probably didnt want to make and bleed a lot of speed while you're at it if you want a chance at dodging it.
Martras
Should probably finish grinding out the F15J, but grinding the event has been so damn draining... the entire thing feels like a chore.
karmafelds
the magnetic attraction to the ground is a serious problem in the game, it always gets me too and im not sure why
missan
Using the AIM-7s has been so frustrating. Sometimes the radar locks just fine but the missile still ends up in narina
bh_18
Same with me.That's why always prefer 9m instead.
I have this glitch where if i fly above 100m i have the entire enemy team focus me
Good to hear the chaff pd issue has been resolved, noticed that issue on release. Havent been able to play in since update drop. Cheers for the giveaways, good idea for giving back to the community
Edit: the datalink is exactly why r27r/er's can reaquire targets vs the 7m and other fox1's
Albatrosswguns
F-15 or F-14B im already at rank 6 so im kind of at a crossroads atm. Ik the F-15 is meta with aim9m but i really love the F-14 it motivated me to start getting back into war thunder anyways
Aim 7s have become way more potent now
Honestly, as a French main, I'd just like the irccm for the magic 2 to be buffed to irl, then balance changes to be made from there.
Peachy_Biscuits
I want to see Enduring Confrontation return for Air RB.
jawsyy
you should cover the Mirage 4000 next its the hidden gem of this update and its been something nice for french players which is rare
fa11enhero
11.3 air RB matchmaker is broken, 90% of the games (for me) are uptiers to the 12.3
It is scary for top tier jets because the missiles only get better. The Americans and nato made some wild stuff.
The F-15 modification grind has been painful.
.takobell
the later F-15 models deserve AIM-120's
rojohippo
If ur not playing sim ur missing out on the true potential of the su-27 and f15
the roll rate for the f15 is kinda wack idk if im just tripping
"Best Top Tier Jet" after you get the Aim9Ms. Before that it's pure shitbus. Don't make the same mistake as I did, get the napalm first lads.
As much as I wanna make the F15 works…but the team is such a shamble
starlighter_
Germany suffers, gaijin must add every vehicle in the game to the german tree
britishtonk
It would be cool if you could spawn on different airfields around the map close to the normal base
boomerpoo02/NukeHunter
The f4s wouldnt be a bad plane to try out .
4.runner
Aim 9m and its smokeless motor are op in ground rb
realchh
What are everyone’s thoughts on bringing in the legacy F/A 18 into the game next update Melonleon.
they fixed the aim-7m, it doesn't do crazy stuff any longer and F15 is decent now, yay
ggs
arkhir
The buff for the aim7m is honestly usless i found that everytime i lost lock and then regained it the missile still went somewhere else
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