F-16s are Coming to Ukraine and this will happen.
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- providing the F-16 to Ukraine was the subject of a hot debate in the western world. Let's see what is going to happen.
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2:28 - Ukraine needs What? (platform options and contexts)
6:34 New Air Force... now what
9:42 - Is it the F-16?
9:59 The Black Prince
11:16 The Typhoon Connection
12:10 The Best Looking Option (The French Option)
15:13 The Swedish Option
16:20 Meanwhile, Down Under (Aussie F/A-18A)
17:46 - Yes, it is the F-16 (F-16's from whom and where)
18:47 From The U.S?
19:50 From Portugal?
20:09 From Greece?
20:37 From Turkey?
21:20 From Poland?
21:50 From Romania?
23:04 What about Belgium?
23:44 A Danish Option?
24:14 Do You See a Pattern?
24:40 Return to the Dutch Option and Norway and what's immediately available
26:00 - Weapons
26:20 Capabilities
31:50 SEAD/DEAD
33:50 Air to Ground
36:05 - Building an Air Force
37:10 Infrastructure
39:03 Air Bases Vulnerability
39:36 Dispersal
40:10 Pilots
42:43 Ground Crews
44:45 Command and Control
46:43 Is the accelerated transition unrealistic?
48:56 - Operations (Hypothetical)
49:30 A note on the VKS
50:13 Acquiring Air Superiority
52:00 Strings attached
53:27 Russian Reaction
54:21 - Conclusion
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2:28 - *Ukraine needs What? (platform options and contexts)*
6:34 New Air Force... now what
9:42 - *Is it the F-16?*
9:59 The Black Prince
11:16 The Typhoon Connection
12:10 The Best Looking Option (The French Option)
15:13 The Swedish Option
16:20 Meanwhile, Down Under (Aussie F/A-18A)
17:46 - *Yes, it is the F-16 (F-16's from whom and where)*
18:47 From The U.S?
19:50 From Portugal?
20:09 From Greece?
20:37 From Turkey?
21:20 From Poland?
21:50 From Romania?
23:04 What about Belgium?
23:44 A Danish Option?
24:14 Do You See a Pattern?
24:40 Return to the Dutch Option and Norway and what's immediately available
26:00 - *Weapons*
26:20 Capabilities
31:50 SEAD/DEAD
33:50 Air to Ground
36:05 - *Building an Air Force*
37:10 Infrastructure
39:03 Air Bases Vulnerability
39:36 Dispersal
40:10 Pilots
42:43 Ground Crews
44:45 Command and Control
46:43 Is the accelerated transition unrealistic?
48:56 - *Operations (Hypothetical)*
49:30 A note on the VKS
50:13 Acquiring Air Superiority
52:00 Strings attached
53:27 Russian Reaction
54:21 - *Conclusion*
Ah, a man of knowledge I see.
Mo' money
Excuse me for my very own idiocy, but can someone tell me, where are all these "modern" western tanks? Where are the 1000+ tanks, Ukraine started with? Where is Ukraine's air force they were so proud of? Where is the super, big bad, NATO trained Ukrainian army? As for the billions upon billions of $ of weapons they've received endlessly, where is it all?
You don't mean, you'e trying to tell me that those former Russian prisoners, (that only received about 4 weeks training), have smashed to pieces that NATO trained Ukrainian Army? No way man! I can't be having that! They'd been trained by NATO for 8 f** years, man!! You know NATO? That super hard, fantastically trained army, armed with the best military technology available. Regardless, that none of us have ever seen any of it actually do a single thing it all claims it can do, that doesn't matter, as NATO + the USA have always proven their military strength.
The outstanding invasion of Afghanistan was just a cakewalk for these guys, who told us all they were going to kick the Taliban's asses to kingdom come, in under 3 months! Just who did these Taliban think they were kidding, thinking they could beat the most powerful military force this world has ever seen? Utter idiocy!
The USA = A trillion dollars worth of super hi tech military hardware.
The Taliban = A dollars worth of military hardware. (old AK-47s the Soviets left behind).
20 years after the USA was going to kick their asses inside three months, the Taliban hold more ground today than they ever have, and them Yankee boys, as always, all got sent home. LMFAOOOOOOOOO
But what about all those mercenaries? What about all those US troops that we found out were fighting in Ukraine? And all those Ukrainian fully fit, hard, strong, fighting men, between 14 and17 years old and 65 - 75-year-old... Where are they all?
What?????????? You mean an 800,000 strong Ukrainian Army with many NATO trained troops vs 50,000 Wagner fighters with former prisoners trained for a few weeks.... Are all gone? LMFAO!!
LOL @ Ukraine "apparently" shooting down 4 Russian aircraft, (including a Russian SU-34 multirole bomber, and a SU-35 fighter), in a "brilliantly arranged" Ukrainian preplanned ambush? Hahaha... Sure, only...
1. If an ambush, well, they'd have needed to know exactly where and when the Russian aircraft would be deployed, as well as knowing exactly where they were being deployed too? LOL.
2. Surely they'd all be filming it? LOL
3. So far, everything Ukraine has claimed, up till now, has nearly all just been lies fitting of idiots, and remedial propaganda claims that are all so backward in their entire context, that it's staggering we could see even the dimmest among us believe it.
The Ghost of Kiev?
Snake Island?
Ukraine sunk the Russian flagship Moskva, with R-360 Neptune anti-ship missiles? LOL.
Ukraine "apparently" shooting down 4 Russian aircraft, (including a Russian SU-34 multirole bomber, and a SU-35 fighter).
And now, well now Ukraine has shot down Russian hypersonic Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missiles LOL, (oh, and with the American patriot system), that hasn't ever shot down a single thing in all the years they've had it, nothing, (not even that ancient Scud they tried to claim it shot down in Iraq)? LOL.
And then???? They just simply shot down 6 more! Hahahaha.
I'm not religious, but honestly, when God was giving out brains, these idiots leading us today, must have all misheard, and thought he said pains, so they all stood up, and they all shouted out, none for us please! LOL
I reckon by 2025 (if the US is still around), we'll see the US roll out her new Battle Tanks, camouflaged in deep lavender, with light purple polka dots.
They'll roll out their new 6th generation, bright pink, with sky-blue undertone's fighter aircraft, with, luminous peach, polka dots only added to her carrier based aircraft.
They'll proudly show the whole world their new huge, enormous, "unmissable target", the soft lilac Aircraft Carrier - USS Barack Obama, with a very special "rainbow-coloured" landing deck.
The Rainbow is also to be the new flag/ensign of the US military. Army, Navy, & Air force. - All personnel, from Cadet through to top officers, will all be required to always carry a silk rainbow handkerchief. (especially in hostile areas), for dabbing away the fear tear. LOL. It makes good sense, man!
As, we did see an American Captain in tears when arrested In Iranian waters?, we saw him with his entire crew, all sitting cross-legged on a nice plush red carpet, crying with snot hanging from their noses, (they were all eating cakes and drinking fizzy pop), while crying like brats, then they just hand over their passwords, laptops, and phones, openly allowing the Iranian's to access all of their military information? Ha!
And the USA wants to take on the North Korea's, Russia's, Iran's, and China's, of this world, four highly armed and very well-defended countries, with Armies of millions of men, all fully bled, trained, and prepared to fight and die for their countries, that completely outnumber the USA by millions??? Oh, SURE!! LOLOL
The USA struggles against the Taliban, and other non-militarily capable countries, man! They've never met a fully militarily capable country in war, they lose against non-militarily capable countries all the time!!
Personally? I give the USA precisely zero chance against any of them, let alone both Russia and China, as allies? Who are these Yankees fooling apart from themselves? Your military is only as good as your MEN! LOL @ the Yanks!
Cool story bro
As a former USN carrier attack pilot I very much enjoy the deep level of effort that you put into this, and other presentations. Keep up the great work.
Ah did you attack your own carrier or were you USN attack pilot who flew from a carrier? 😁Sorry lack of sleep and painkillers has made me more stupidly inane than I usually am and I found the misrelated participle in the first part of your comment really funny. 🤦♂ (I really was *not* mocking you, ok. 😀)
Curiosity question if I may after that. What did you fly? One thing I would really liked to have experienced was a Trap and Cat shot in a fast jet and not a COD because as a pilot I really like to see out when I fly. That must have been so buzzy and I am deeply envious. 😡
A high speed low pass like the one Snort (Dale Snodgrass for those who do not not know who that gentleman was) made would put the icing on the cake. 👍
I reckon by 2025 (if the US is still around), we'll see the US roll out her new Battle Tanks that will be camouflaged in deep lavender, with light purple polka dots.
They'll roll out their new 18th generation, bright pink, with sky-blue undertone's fighter aircraft, with, luminous peach, polka dots only added to her carrier based aircraft.
They'll proudly show the whole world their new huge, enormous, "unmissable target", the soft lilac Aircraft Carrier - USS Barack Obama, with a very special rainbow-coloured landing deck.
The Rainbow is also to be the new flag/ensign of the US military. Army, Navy, & Air force. - All personnel, from Cadet through to top officers, will all be required to always carry a silk rainbow handkerchief. (especially in hostile areas), for dabbing away the fear tear. LOL. It makes good sense, man!
As, we did see an American Captain in tears when arrested In Iranian waters?, we saw him with his entire crew, all sitting cross-legged on a carpet, crying with snot hanging from their noses, (they were all eating cakes and drinking fizzy pop), while crying like brats, then they just hand over their passwords, laptops, and phones, openly allowing the Iranian's to access all of their military information? Ha!
And the USA wants to take on the North Korea's, Russia's, Iran's, and China's, of this world, four highly armed and very well-defended countries, with Armies of millions of men, all fully bled, trained, and prepared to fight and die for their countries, that completely outnumber the USA by millions??? Oh, SURE!! LOLOL
The USA struggles against the Taliban, and other non-militarily capable countries, man! They've never met a fully militarily capable country in war, they lose against non-militarily capable countries all the time!!
Personally? I give the USA precisely zero chance against any of them, let alone both Russia and China, as allies? Who are these Yankees fooling apart from themselves? Your military is only as good as your MEN! LOL @ the Yanks!
Who in their right mind would ever admit to what you just have? LOL, Is there something not quite right with you, maybe? A screw loose, maybe? Give your head a little wobble mate, something's clearly come loose! An attack pilot, really? Isn't it funny how every one of these comments sections concerning US military, sees every 5th comment from someone claiming to be a former US marine, soldier, pilot, navigator etc etc? It could all be true, until you ask them anything?
You see, I'm English, and this just has to be said, because it's so embarrassing reading you people these days. I don't believe we've ever seen, or read, people as just as clueless as you Americans, who we read talking about these military technologies, like your own aircraft, or any of your own military, for that matter? Yet It really is, only your very own words that just prove you know absolutely nothing at all, and you understand even less than nothing, so really, what is that all about?
What on earth do any of you people think you could ever achieve by basically proving, with what you type, just how uneducated you all really are? For example, why do we read you all endlessly claiming the F-22, is some great aircraft?, and of course, so much better than the "Russian rubbish"? What's that all about?
And why is it, that whenever you're asked what any of you have ever actually seen the F-22 do, that would allow you to form and hold that opinion?, none of you can answer that, as you've never seen it do a single thing in all the years you've had it, nothing at all? So, all you actually prove is, that you're just basing your own opinions on a whole lot of nothing, right? So, again, what is it all about?
All you people do, is, you just talk endless propaganda claims, and claims you can't ever back up with a single fact?. I don't need to prove this, you can read it all for yourself. You all prove how little you know or even understand, because none of you have ever asked yourselves the most obvious, and the most important questions, (we must always ask and understand, before even attempting to analyse anything from any other country), questions like, how can the F-22 stealth fighters detect, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR? Really, just how dumb is that? And even worse is, If you had just asked yourselves that one question?, you'd immediately know that the reality is nothing at all like you all think?
As the obvious facts are, (that seemingly none of you even understand), is that stealth alone, defeats high-frequency (short wave), radar, by absorption and deflection. But it does NOT defeat low-frequency (long wave), radar. To detect, track, and target other stealth aircraft from BVR, you must have long-wave radar, (but it must also be enhanced), to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. Otherwise, what have they got to detect any other stealth aircraft from BVR? The answer to that is, they have AWACS (that has a long wave radar) and can transfer that data to your F-22's in real time.
And this is where actually understanding your enemies abilities, becomes extremely important, as I'll show you.
Russia has designed, and they've developed, the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've embedded L-band AESA radars into the leading edges of the wings, the L-band AESA radar "data" gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian computers, being significantly enhanced, removing all background clutter, meaning they can detect, track, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR.
This new Russian technology, along with its very impressive range parameters, and it's jamming ability (over very large areas) make this aircraft deadly to all other aircraft types. Just Russian rubbish? Indeed. LMAO.
They interact in ''real-time'' with each squadron member (auto selecting) the best placed BVR missile being carried by any of them, that can be fired by anyone of them. They can take full control of surface-to-air (SAM) missile defence systems - (that alone is lethal), and they can detect, track, and target all enemy stealth fighters, (and detect them long before they even enter Russian airspace), from much greater distances today, with the "real-time" data from all those massive Russian ground (long wave stations), that are all protected with the networked S-400 defensive system.
The truth is obvious, and it could not be any more obvious, these Russian stealth jets will always know exactly where the enemy stealth fighter aircraft are, so they'll approach them head on, being able to shoot down the US stealth jets from BVR (while remaining undetected) the US stealth fighter jets would not even detect them coming! Result = you're doomed!
Russia's new (2band) radar, covers all frequencies across all channels, all used for tracking, targeting, and also for jamming (over large areas). It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57. We must also understand that Russia tested this new radar suit in the SU-35's, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into the SU-35's. Seeing the SU-35 at no disadvantage against either the F-22/35.
As although the SU-35 can be detected, tracked, and targeted from BVR by the US stealth fighters, the SU-35 equipped with this new radar is just as able to detect, track, and target the US stealth fighters from BVR. Seeing the all-important Russian advantage in BVR missile range, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/F-35 have, as more than critical, (if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky).
This Russian 5th generation radar design, has very clear and very real potentials to provide genuine shared multifunction apertures, with applications including...
Search, track, and destroy, missile mid-course guidance, against low signature aircraft, identification of friend or foe with secondary surveillance radar.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges.
High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters.
High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas.
High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges.
High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. (Effectively, and completely, neutralising the USA's use of AWACS for their detection).
The reality is, and the undeniable truth is that this Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA radar is an extremely important strategic development, and it's a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and many, UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all flanker variants equipped with such radars.
Just Russian crap? Indeed, it is (if you're an idiot). LMAO!. You American people really are your very own, worst enemy! Talk about a nation/society of clowns! So again, do explain what it is any of you think you're ever achieving by endlessly typing your very own misunderstood and absolute rubbish, about your own aircraft?
FACT = A Russian SU-57 flying well behind the front lines, detected a Ukrainian SU-27, heading toward Kiev about 300 kms away, it tracked then fired a Russian very long range Vympel R-37 (NATO "Axehead") hypersonic air-to-air BVR missile at the Ukrainian SU-27 from a range of well over 250 km's, blowing it out of the sky, and smashing the previous BVR missile range world record to pieces.
FACT = The F-22, the USA has had in service for 19 years, and incredibly it finally made its first air-to-air kill in 2023 when it shot down a Chinese weather balloon. LMFAO.
FACT = Everything you people say, claim, or think, is always wrong, no matter what it is, and you're all exactly the same. You all talk crap, while you'll read some other yank talking crap, and you'll then give that other crap (a like), while some other dunce gives your own crap (a like), LOL.
Then you all get to the point, that you've all spoken so much crap, and you've all (liked) even more crap, that you don't even know what crap is any more, LOL. And so then, well then, you all, incredibly, start to believe your very own CRAP! Hahahaha hahahahaha.
@@braveworld2707 I spend many a night without sleep and right now my bones feel as though they are shattered from opiate withdrawal. I'm interested what painkillers did you take? No lol. I want to ask you as the other top gun didn't reply. Where can I see some ex fighter pilots on UA-cam and why tf is the black princes idea so bad? I've been thinking they should send them without announcing and break through in a few days. IT'S UKRAINE not Russia. Putin is a pussy as prigoszhin proves. Or did he? Putin seems to be feared in Russia which is strange to me but civilians from my country ....at least 3 films have been made about hunger strikers that demanded they not be beat up when going to the toilet had to spread their shit on the walls . They demanded pow status but the iron lady who in fairness said Putin was a psychopath with no trace of humanity back near 2000 but she incurred the wrath of the IRA when ten of the prisoners died one by one on hunger strike after she denied their demands . See the Brighton bomb when she was up late writing her speech a chunk of a chimney landed on her bed as a section of the building collapsed. How they did it I don't know but she was cut on the head and it would be nice to think this caused her Alzheimer's the fact that she didn't sleep at 3am would indicate her lack of sleep caused Alzheimer's needless to say the IRA who released a statement lol " remember we only have to be lucky once, you have to be lucky all the time " didn't help her insomnia. Shoot I'm late . Talking crap on yt. Gl with painkillers 👍🏻
The Ukrainian air force has Mig-29 fighters and were brushed aside. Now I don't see how the F-16 fighters will make any different. Mig-29 and F-16 are essential the same.
Mille grazie... Don't bother for the length of these video analyses. Don't bother about hostile criticism. Keep up the good job giving us stuff for thought and valuable information and analysis techniques.
Amazing how much people respect what a vacuum cleaner had to say.
ACRONYM LIST:
In the context of military aviation:
1. BVR stands for "Beyond Visual Range". This refers to a combat situation where the adversaries are far enough apart that they cannot visually see each other. Combat in BVR conditions often relies on radar, long-range weapons, and other electronic combat systems.
2. WVR stands for "Within Visual Range". This refers to a combat situation where adversaries are close enough to each other to be seen with the naked eye. WVR combat often involves the use of shorter-range weapons, like guns and short-range missiles, and can involve aerial maneuvers and dogfighting.
In terms of actual distance, what constitutes BVR and WVR can vary depending on factors such as the weather, the technology available, and the specific tactical situation. But generally speaking, BVR might be thought of as several tens of miles or more, while WVR might be within a few miles or less.
VKS stands for "Vozdushno-Kosmicheskiye Sily," which translates to "Aerospace Forces" in English. The Russian Aerospace Forces, established on August 1, 2015, is the branch of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation responsible for air and space defense. This service branch was formed by merging the Russian Air Force (VVS) and the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO). It is responsible for much of Russia's military capabilities in air, space, and missile defense.
In military terms, SEAD and DEAD refer to tactics used against enemy air defenses:
1. SEAD: This stands for "Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses." The main goal of SEAD operations is to hinder or disrupt the operation of enemy air defenses, typically through the use of electronic warfare, decoys, or precision strikes. By suppressing enemy air defenses, the attacking force can increase the effectiveness and survivability of its own air operations.
2. DEAD: This stands for "Destruction of Enemy Air Defenses." DEAD operations have a more aggressive goal than SEAD: to completely destroy enemy air defenses. This is typically accomplished through direct, often large-scale, attacks on enemy air defense systems, radar installations, and command and control centers. This is usually a more resource-intensive and riskier operation than SEAD, but it can provide more lasting benefits if successful.
Both SEAD and DEAD operations are crucial in modern warfare because they allow for the protection of friendly aircraft and the successful implementation of aerial campaigns.
Thanks for this
Thank you! This channel deserves 10x subs; the analysis is sharp and no hyperbole at all. I especially appreciated how hypersonic missile might affect defender and how the A2D bubble would drastically shrink. This kind of presentation is very rare on the yt! I am going to watch some of my favorites from the back catalog!
My complements! Probably your most comprehensive exposition on the totality of a military system. Your remarks of how tenuous geopolitics from this one aspect of the conflict are more than chilling.
This format is perfect for the complexity of such topics. Please, sir, MORE!
the new air to air missile has a 10.000 mph and a blast of 18 tons of tnt. breen tech,
@@georgecoons6872Try again )))
Comprehensive?
51:04
It is hard to not laugh on this slide. Just compare the 1999 AF with this idea. Against legacy SAMs almost 1000 AGM-88 were used and 60% of the Serbian AD survived the conflict.
While Russian has AWACS, two different R-37M platform and legacy SAMs except the 9K33 OSA-AKM is gone.
No matter the almost 1 hour length even the most basic limitation and level of threat and cycle times of SAMs or reaction time of a BARCAP + R-37M threat was not examined.
What was it the point?
No even a single tactical situation was analyzed to see the serious limitation of an F-16AM.
Imagine something like that just with the F-16AM as an attacker.
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Yes, I'm looking forward to more .
This information is uncommon and indispensable to everyone, no matter who or where. I, for one, appreciate your efforts.
As always his content has quality. This channel deserves more subscribers.
The Grippen was FAR AND AWAY the best option for Ukraine, but Sweden was unwilling due to its rather limited numbers. The Grippen seemed as if it was designed for just the situation Ukraine is in. It can land anywhere, can use untrained conscript for basic maintenance and mission prep, has a much more advanced avionics suite, etc. Edit: I see you got to this.
But how would the US profit from a gripen sale? The US literally put economic sanctions on Turkey after it supplied the highly effective (but simple) Bayraktar drones to Ukraine which proved critical in ending Putin's invasion of Kiev.
Excellent presentation, finally listening to someone talking using his brain. 😮
The elephant in the room is the airfields they will be operating from. Anywhere they take off from won't be there for any planes that manage to return.
So true, maybe neighbor states could offer airfields.
@@NinjaMonte1990
Then they too would be legitimate targets for annihilation.
@@Comrade_Tokoloshe then that would trigger the pact, and we could all perish in nuclear armageddon!
@@NinjaMonte1990
So Russia must not defend itself?
@@Comrade_Tokoloshe everyone should defend themselves. Russia must do what it must just as ukraine must in order to survive. Wether its surrender or rent out airports from their allies so that they can defend themselves in their own country.
the F-16 will end like the Leo2, as burning wrecks on the field
Hey a $500 mine vs. a 3 million dollar tank. What could go wrong with that?
Some will yes. But your assertion that just because you saw 4 or 5 Leopards taken out means the platform is bad, or that Ukraine can't employ them correctly is not correct. If your assertion were indeed the case Russia would freely engage Ukrainian armor with Russian armor. Neither side will do this.
5 leopard destroyed Vs 2000 Russian tanks
I love your videos and I think you should continue with whatever format(s) are easiest for you. A lot of video creators end up sliding into formats that are very labor intensive and then when life gets busy or disrupted, they end up disappearing for months on end or just breaking themselves trying to meet the format. Resiliency and flexibility for your own life and health is better than longer videos for strangers on the internet.
Everything the Americans say, claim, or think, is always wrong, and no matter what it is. And they're all exactly the same man.
Seriously, they all talk crap, while they'll read some other clown also talking crap, and they'll then give that crap (a like), while some other clown gives their own crap (a like), LOL. Then they all get to the point, that they've all spoken so much crap, and they've all (liked) even more crap, that they don't even know what crap is any more! LOL.
And so then? Well then, quite incredibly, and hilariously, they'll all actually start to believe their very own CRAP! Hahahahahahahahaha.
The Australian ~40 semi-modernized old F18s sounds like the best option tbh.
Very detailed & interesting video
@@phillipbanes5484 >Australia & Finland have & already expressed interest in giving Ukraine F/A 18s,
Switzerland, Spain, Norway, Canada, & obviously the US have lots of old 1s
>The F/A18 carries 12 compared to the F16s 10 missles
>F/A18 has a radar cross-section 1/5th the size of the F16
>Most old F18s Ukr could get are still gonna be more modern than most F16s
>F/A18 is more durable & reliable with 2 engines to the F16s 1 & requires less maintenance (more flight time & more available at once), & has far stronger landing gear & a hook for carrier/emergency landing
>F/A18 requires a far shorter takeoff runway; with the Finish using conscripts to launch them from Highways like the Swedish Gripen
>While both are multi-role, & their air-combat comparison is heavily debated, there isn't really any honest debate that the F/A18s are better when it comes to attack/bombing ground or naval targets
Optically, the F16 is seen as both an iconic NATO & American Fighter Jet, that giving to Ukr would be perceived as an escalation on their part -less so with the F/A18
>While unlikely to happen, the F/A18 could theoretically carry the stealth-locating/locking tech of the current super hornet if the US were to give them to a Ukr with F/A18s
@@cbeaudry4646maybe i misunderstand here,, but Norway never operated f 18. We flew f 16, but those who were operable are sold to Romania, and a private business in USA. The rest has reached their limit.
@@phillipbanes5484 F16 might not be the best but is a versatile, combat proven fighter with the best price/performance ratio, large range of weapons, and staff acquainted around the world ... due to having been a popular choice among Air Forces around the world.
The F18 is a robust, capable fighter, with a higher payload and higher flight ceiling ... but its two engines by itself make it more complex and expensive to operate. No wonder, aside of the US Navy, it is only deployed in Western Air Forces with a maritime or bad weather bias (US Navy, Australia, Spain, Canada, Norway, Finland, Switzerland
@@phillipbanes5484for C400s actually doesn’t mater :)
@@phillipbanes5484 doesn’t matter what FXX is :) love them all :)
1) Please do more. (2) Please do more. (3) The in-depth contextualization was really helpful for a lay person trying to understand what's going on. Thank you very much.
Sir, you are not an idiot! You're one of the best aviation expert I've known. Thank you for your content and expertise. I found your channel is extremely interesting. Thank you very much for all your effort!
He literally spent 55:59 minutes discussing the F-16 in Ukraine. That's almost an hour. Did you listen to all of it? 👏👏😁😁😁😁🤭
🙃 F-16 isn't viable for many reasons. They won't be effective, we need to train the pilots, we need them to take off from a place that is suitable. The Russians have an excuse to hit NATO airfields.
Anyone of them nulls the F-16 in Ukraine. It will be NATO pilots flying them. It will be embarrassing.
Hope I saved you almost an hour of your precious time from this clown.
@@aachoocrony5754
"Anyone of them nulls the F-16 in Ukraine".
Cool that you know better than the rest of the world. In which squadron are you?
Don´t consider yourselve more smart and important than you are..
You disqualify youselve as a poor character -what makes your infantile emojis look even more embarrassing as they
@@jameschoice3983 yeah good advice. I hope I don't. Is it okay that I consider myself smarter than you? Yeah I think so. Careful with the finger pointing. Just a piece of advice.
@@aachoocrony5754 Yes, for sure, sweetheart- whatever you say.. : )
Stay pubescent!
I love how he talks to his vacum cleaner. Apparently they are some of the most advanced computers in Russia.
49:00 For those missions, you need targets first, free from Russian AA and air superiority. You also need a command structure for that, guiding the planes.
Yeah, missed an analysis why f-16's wouldnt just get shot down 100km before they reach the line of contact like their aircraft in previous sorties
WWIII will inevitably be fought with hypersonic missiles.
Dmitri Medvedev-
“I will note one thing that politicians of all kinds do not like to admit: a nuclear Apocalypse is not only possible but it is quite probable.
Why?
There are at least two reasons.
First. The world is in confrontation much worse than during the Caribbean crisis because our opponents have decided to defeat the
largest nuclear power - Russia. They are, no doubt, idiots, but that’s just the way it is.
And the second reason is quite prosaic - nuclear weapons have already been used, and everybody knows by whom and where, which means there is no taboo!”
Russian submarine with 160 nukes on board surfaces off US coast
“Russia’s submarine-launched Zircon hypersonic missile was the 1st underwater firing of a low-altitude weapon that flies at nine times the speed of sound. A Russian sub lurking a hundred miles off the American coast could nuke Washington in a flat minute
Russian nuclear submarine of the Borey project, which carries 16 Bulava ballistic missiles on board, unexpectedly appeared off the coast of the United States, having caused serious concerns in Washington.
Each of the missiles in service with the submarine is capable of carrying up to ten nuclear warheads.
According to NetEase publication, Russian nuclear submarine of the Borey project (according to other sources, it was an Akula project submarine), approached the US coast unnoticed.”
A submarine of this class is capable of destroying most of the territory of the United States of America in minutes.
Also F-18 already defeated an alien invasion as can be seen in Independence Day.
And Randy Quad already knows how to fly them.
Haha
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FANTASTIC!! Thank you and Otis for pulling this together!
I really appreciate all the work that goes into your extended presentations. Sincerely, well done! Too often discussions of game-changing wonder weapons completely ignore such issues as availability, logistics, maintenance, and how long training will really take, providing viewers with a completely unrealistic assessment of a situation.
I follow this channel because you're not afraid to say what you think instead of what the fanboys expect! Keep on keeping on!
I feel as though I've just attended a graduate level course in this! I will definitely view this one again and maybe again after that since I am a slow learner. Honestly, your knowledge is encyclopedic.
An excellent analysis and thorough explanation of capabilities and options. Adversary Intentions are something else!
I get the feeling that this guy REALLY knows what he is taking about, Subscribed sir!
He is absolutely brilliant and very fair in his analysis. Best on YT imo
F16 another game changer…. 😂😂😂
He didn't call them a game changer though!
He is VERY realistic with his analysis.
I don't think I've Heard anyone Call it a Game-changer except for clickbait channels.
This guys evaluations are Always stella
The standoff weapons load out for F-16 is indeed a “game changer”
@@petersouthernboy6327…and it has a better radar then any of russian jets!
Ikeane. I have heard people calling the A-10 a game changer.
The wait was worth it. Outside of Military Aviation History the best on the topic of the air war in the current conflict and the only other channel to consider all aspects of military operations and sustainment.
So many focus on the platforms but ignore the greater system and context in which they are made to exist as part of.
Splendid work M7.
Add Perun to that list, but I agree.
@@btb300 With his in-depth knowledge and analysis, I expected that Perun would be able to predict the victor.
In the last video I saw, I think he was convinced that Russia was running out of missiles and ammunition.
I stopped watching after that, but his analysis of WWII battles is good, being based on good information derived from historical records.
No even a single tactical situation was analyzed to see the serious limitation of an F-16AM.
Imagine something like that just with the F-16AM as an attacker.
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@@militavia-air-defense-aircraft Ehh, given that the theoretical operation was told to illustrate a potential operational use and outcomes of its introduction I am fine with what M7 has shown. Although in the face of such heavy GBAD and CAP, I expect the F-16AM's to merely push forward launch what they can if possible and run.
@@cannonfodder4376 The sead slide at around 51 min was sipmly funny considering what happened in 1999 during AF.
Thank you for this. It is very well thought out and as accurate as one can hope; far better than all the drama and clickbait that the UA-cam algorithm seems to dote on.
Ciao Augusto, ottimo lavoro come al solito! Uno spunto per un tuo prossimo video: molti, te compreso, hanno messo in luce la maggiore complessità e necessità di manutenzione degli aerei occidentali rispetto a quelli russi/ex-sovietici; potresti fare un video in cui spieghi nel dettaglio le ragioni per questa differenza tecnica? Penso i tuoi spettatori troveranno interessante una discussione approfondita sull'argomento. Continua così!
this kind of format is much better than short videos! it's really good!
I think this was an excellent analysis and I agree. Especially the logistics part is often overlooked. And as we all know logisitics is just as important as the units on the front line.
These aircraft are obsolete for a very good reason they are no longer cost-effective. A much less expensive option would be to use a sophisticated stealthy drone like the mq 28 from Australia. A handful of these would give Ukraine air superiority and bring a quick end to the war
You think this was an excellent analysis? Yet the obvious truth supported by all the facts prove to us all, anyone with just an iota of understanding it explains absolutely nothing at all. LOL. But look, 60 people like what you've said? How smart you are!
So, let's just ask what could the F-16 achieve in Ukrainian airspace?, or in fact, how long could an F-16 survive in Ukraine? For me, I'd estimate the F-16 would have a life expectancy of less than 30 minutes combat service over Ukraine, and that's extremely generous.
You only need to understand what it would be facing. Regardless, that we already know it can't survive the old S-300 anti-air defences, it would then need to survive against, for example a Russian SU-35E? How could it survive is the only real question? LOL.
Before ever trying to talk about your own aircraft or in fact, any area of your own military in any capacity, we must firstly always, not only ask, but more importantly, understand what we are going to face from an enemy before attempting to analyse any abilities we can use. Actually understanding your enemies abilities, becomes extremely important, critical in fact, as I'll show you.
The SU-35E has a forward and rear-facing Phazotron radar system capable of simultaneous tracking of 34 targets up to 92 miles (148 km's) even over uneven terrain. Its cockpit design contains a colour CRT display as well as HUD (Head-Up Display) along with digital fly-by-wire (FBW) capability. It also has quadruple redundancy (the onboard computers will always find four different ways to achieve the desired results of its combat mission), and its avionics also include an Irbis-E passive phased array radar system.
The SU-35E is classified a "4++ Generation Fighter" - though its true capabilities go well beyond the original/current crop of 4 & 4+ Generation mounts like the F-15, 16, 18, Eurofighter Typhoon, French Dassault Rafale etc while the SU-35E only falls short of the standard adopted for true 5th Generation by its lack of stealth, however the SU35s tactical value has increased massively, and its combat ability has broadened considerably.
The F-16 is an obsolete, unusable aircraft against Russia in every way imaginable, and they all know this, really.
I'm English, so I'd love to know why we see and read so many Americans endlessly trying to run down other countries militaries, and their military hardware, when the truth today is, nearly all of it, is actually, so much better than their own?...
So, really, what's that all about? What do they all think they could ever achieve just talking such remedial propaganda? For example, why do we read the Americans all endlessly claiming the F-22 is so much better than the "Russian rubbish"? Yet whenever they're asked what any of them have ever seen the F-22 actually do, that would allow them to form and hold that opinion?, none of them can answer that question, as they've never seen the F-22 do anything at all, (other than flying over a beach on a UA-cam Video)?
So, all they actually prove is, they're just talking idiocy and basing their own bias juvenile opinions on a whole lot of nothing, right? So, again, what is it all about? Seriously, read them all?, all they do is talk endless propaganda claims, and claims they can't ever back up with a single fact?. It's idiocy, and it's idiocy on a scale of idiocy I really don't believe any of us have ever seen or ever experienced before, it's embarrassing is the truth.
Even more stupidly, none of them have even asked themselves the most obvious, and most important questions, (we must always, not only ask, but more importantly, understand), before attempting to analyse anything from anyone else!
Questions like, how can their own F=22 stealth fighters, detect, track, or target any other stealth aircraft from BVR? You see, they can't tell you, as they all just assume so much. Yet if they had just asked themselves that one question?, they'd then start to understand that the reality is nothing at all like they all think!
The facts, (that seemingly none of them even understand), are, that stealth alone, defeats high-frequency (short wave), radar, by absorption and deflection, but it does NOT defeat low-frequency (long wave radar), so regardless of the aircraft's RCS (radar cross-section), when they're being tracked and targetted by long wave radar they're anything but stealthy, and stand out just like a beacon in the night.
To detect, track, and target other stealth aircraft from BVR, can be done easily with long-wave radar, (but it must also be enhanced), to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes. Otherwise, what could the F-22 have to detect any other stealth aircraft from BVR?
The answer to that question is they have AWACS (that can transfer all targetting data to the F-22's in real time). Yet that's no longer possible today. And this is where actually understanding your enemies real abilities, becomes extremely important, as I'll show you.
Neither the APG-77 radar, used in the F-22, or the APG-81 radar, used in the F-35, can detect any other stealth aircraft from BVR! An obvious fact, the US Air force will be fully aware of. Only it seems the reality is, that when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there weren't any other stealth aircraft to think about as a potential threat!
So, seriously, how can anyone possibly see these US stealth aircraft as any sort of real threat to either Russia or China, (who both have these US stealth aircraft technically beaten today)?
The reality of this "Russian rubbish" (they all claim), is that Russia does have a new 5th generation radar, (with enhanced long-wave radar), their new Byelka (2band) radar used in SU-57.
They can detect, track, and target enemy stealth jets from BVR, while the US stealth jets can't even detect them from BVR? Result = A pretty obvious one.
Russia have designed, and they've developed, the first L-Band fighter radar we've ever seen. They've embedded L-band AESA radars into the leading edges of the wings. And this L-band AESA radar "data" gets processed in real time (through extremely powerful Russian computers), being significantly enhanced, removing all background clutter, seeing them perfectly able to detect, track, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR.
This new Russian technology, along with its very impressive range parameters, and it's jamming ability (over very large areas) make this aircraft deadly to all other aircraft types.
Oh, but, wait, it's just Russian rubbish? Indeed, it is, (if you're an outright idiot). LMAO. The SU-57 interacts in ''real-time'' with each squadron member (auto selecting) the best placed BVR missile being carried by any of them, that can be fired by anyone of them. They can take full control of surface-to-air (SAM) missile defence systems - (that alone is lethal).
They can detect, track, and target all enemy stealth fighters, (and detect them long before they even enter Russian airspace), from much greater distances today, with "real-time" data from all those massive Russian ground (long wave stations), that are all protected with the networked S-400 defensive system.
The facts today are, actually more than clear, these Russian stealth jets will always know exactly where the enemy stealth fighter aircraft are a well as their course, so they're perfectly able to approach head on, stealthily being able to shoot down all enemy stealth jets from BVR (and, while remaining undetected). The US stealth fighter jets, for example, would not even detect them coming! Result = you're doomed!
Russia's new (2band) radar, covers all frequencies across all channels, used for tracking, targeting, and also for jamming (over large areas). It's part of Sh121 multifunctional integrated radio electronic system (MIRES) on board the SU-57.
We must also understand, that Russia tested this new radar suit in the SU-35's, so they also have the option of fitting this radar into the SU-35's. Seeing the SU-35 at no disadvantage against either the F-22/35. As although the SU-35 can be detected, tracked, targeted and shot down from BVR by the US stealth fighters, the SU-35 equipped with this new radar is just as able to detect, track, target and shoot down the US stealth fighters from BVR.
Seeing the all-important Russian advantage in BVR missile range, plus the excellent manoeuvring, neither the F-22/F-35 have, as more than critical, (if you're going to avoid simply being blown out of the sky).
This Russian 5th generation radar design, has very clear, and very real potentials to provide genuine shared multifunction apertures, with applications including...
Search, track, and destroy, missile mid-course guidance, against low signature aircraft, identification of friend or foe with secondary surveillance radar.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters at long ranges.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of L-band AEWC - AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges.
Passive angle tracking and geolocation of hostile (i.e. Western) IFF and SSR transponders at long ranges.
High-powered active jamming of JTIDS-MIDS-Link-16 emitters.
High-powered active jamming of satellite navigation receivers over large areas.
High-powered active jamming of L-band AEWC-AWACS and surface based search radars at long ranges.
High-powered active jamming of guided munition command data links over large areas. (Effectively, and completely, neutralising the USA's use of AWACS for their detection).
This Tikhomirov NIIP L-band AESA radar, is an extremely important strategic development, and it's a technology which once fully matured and deployed in useful numbers, will render narrowband stealth designs like the F-22 & F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, and many, UAVs, as highly vulnerable to all flanker variants equipped with such radars.
-- Just Russian crap, indeed? HILARIOUS!! LMAO!
FACT = A Russian SU-57 flying well behind the front lines in Russian airspace, detected a Ukrainian SU-27, deep in Ukrainian airspace heading toward Kiev, about 300 km's away, the SU-57 tracked then fired a Russian very long range Vympel R-37 (NATO "Axehead") hypersonic air-to-air BVR missile at the Ukrainian SU-27, from a range of well over 250 km's, blowing it out of the sky, and smashing the previous BVR missile kill range world record, to utter smithereens!
FACT = The USA has had the F-22 in service for 19 years, and it finally made its first air-to-air kill in 2023, when it shot down a Chinese weather balloon. LMFAO.
Analysing the USA's real military abilities, today, is a horror story.
Over these last 25 years, they've been out thought, out-built, and technically beaten hands down, by both Russia, and not to forget China, who are banging out modern hi-tech, hi-quality military hardware in all areas of their military today. We actually know very little, but what they've allowed us to see, there's not really anything I could single out and start to criticize even if I wanted too.
A great question that points out today's reality is, "what does the USA lead the world in today concerning anything military?" And the answer to that question is, absolutely nothing! We can also just look to understand this?
Tanks? = Russia own the ground. Can't even begin to argue, not even any point trying.
Navy? = In today's world of hi-tech Anti-Ship ballistic missiles, like the Chinese DF-21D - operational range (1700 km's) that can sink any carrier in the world with a single hit. All Navies, without the ability to stop these missiles, are completely obsolete today.
Russia's Zircon Anti-Ship missile though inferior in way of operational range-400kms it can be fired from Aircraft, Subs, and Ships making it deadly to any carrier in the world. (Russia also has the Brahmos and the P-800 Oniks Anti-Ship missiles).
We know, the USA, haven't got a destroyer that can defend against these modern hi tech ASM's today! Making the USA's Navy obsolete in today's world. Let's just look at the distances the US jets can travel? It's about 500-650 (max) km's out - and the same back again = 1300 km's range.
So how could the US deploy any carrier close enough, to reach any inland target, and then get back again? They can't, anywhere inside 1700 km's they're sunk, they're toast, they're history. This is also why when looking at the GPS positioning of any US carrier in the South China Sea, you'll never see them closer than 2000 kms from Chinas mainland.
Aircraft/Force? = Explained above
Electronic Warfare? = The Russians are decades ahead. Russia have the GaN MMICs, the krasukha, the murmansk-BN, and Magrav technology (NATO: Khibiny) developed by Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe (called “a modern-day Nikola Tesla”). And we can say for sure, this EW hardware is super impressive. We've no answer to it. We've also seen this E/W in action on at least 4 occasions we know of...
1) In 2013, we've seen a Russian SU-24 fly repeatedly around and directly over the USS Cook, leaving the Cook helpless to defend itself.
2) In 2014, we've seen a Russian SU-24 (flying at an altitude of only 10 feet), fly directly at, and straight over the USS Ross, eleven times, with the Ross completely unable to prevent It or respond to It.
3) As Russian forces arrived In Syria in 2015 we had many reports of US/NATO/Israeli Radar becoming scrambled, leaving them unable to communicate, or offer any response to the Russian forces. As one report said, the silence from the West was deafening!
4) In March 2015, a further related report notes. Federation submarine naval forces attacked with their advanced electronic defensive weapons the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) causing it to turn and struggle to the coast of Britain to the amazement of the public, where she remained for 9 days undergoing Intensive major re-wiring. It's believed the Russian electronic warfare pods (NATO: Khibiny) were used in a Russian trial of this technology for its submarine fleets.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest, who said of the encounter with the Cook... "This incident is entirely inconsistent with the professional norms of militaries operating in close proximity with each other in international waters. E/C measures taken by the Russian Federation are unacceptable".
To which the Russian MoD replied... "Frankly speaking, [we] do not understand the reason for such a painful reaction of our American colleagues, as the principle of freedom of navigation for the US destroyer, (which is staying in close proximity to a Russian naval base in the Baltic Sea), does [not] at all cancel the principle of freedom of flight for Russian aircraft testing Russian defensive systems".
A further Ministry of Defence (MoD) report also stated that for the second time in two years, advanced Federation “electronic warfare defences” have crippled the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75)- It was noted when Baltic Fleet “special forces elements” offered assistance to tow the destroyer back to their Polish port, the Americans refused to respond.
According to this report, in April 2014, the USS Donald Cook, while performing a mission in the Black Sea, substantially violated Federation “territorial integrity” causing President Putin to authorize an “electronic warfare defence” attack against it, that was so devastating this top-line warship was left adrift-and once towed back to its Romanian port, its American sailors were so demoralized 27 of them filed immediate letters of resignation from the US Navy.
One year later, in May 2015, this report continues, and again in the Black Sea, the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG-71) substantially violated Federation “territorial integrity” causing President Putin, to once again, authorize an “electronic warfare defence” attack against it.
But when confronted with the fate that befell the USS Donald Cook the year prior, it retreated-causing one Russian top-level Naval Officer to state: "It seems that the Americans did not forget the April 2014 USS Donald Cook incident - A Federation SU-24 equipped with EW pods shut down the new American destroyer".
This attack encounter of Federation forces with the USS Donald Cook, this report details, began when this American warship began an “aggressive combat manoeuvre” against the Baltic Sea Fleet port in Kaliningrad, to which President Putin authorised an immediate “electronic warfare defence” against it.
Troops? = Russian troops with reserves today outnumber the USA, and any attack on Russia would immediately see China join the conflict. Then outnumbering the USA in the millions today.
Also, what has anyone ever seen from any US troops, that could make anyone believe or think they'd be any sort of threat or match to Russian troops, who are all fully bled and will all be fighting for all the right reasons, like their own country's freedom, while the US troops will only be fighting for attempted US tyranny?.
All throughout the history of wars, we always find the countries fighting for all the right reasons, like their own freedom, have never lost, yet all those who fought for all the wrong reasons, like global control/tyranny, have all not only lost, but all have been annihilated.
The American people themselves, would all be very wise to understand this, as we see this in every war, over and over again, nothing will change this time, only the annihilation might be much more severe, but just as deserved.
Missiles? = Russian missiles easily rule the world today. Russia's modern hi-tech missiles that include hypersonic missiles with Russian GLONASS, GPS targeting systems, give Russia such incredible precision, the USA has nothing we can say even compares.
As we've all witnessed, Russia was pinpoint accurate, targeting single buildings in Syria, even guiding them down chimney pots, or straight in through the front door, and doing so from the Caspian Sea from distances of, up to 6500 km away.
Russia has also provided clear, precise footage, of all her long range missile attacks in Syria, (that we can see all came from the Russian control room online). Russian hypersonic missiles, we all know the USA can't defend against, and Russia has many other lethal hypersonic missiles being created and added to her arsenal.
Personally, in any upcoming war? I give the USA precisely zero chance, none, not even a little snippet of a chance, annihilation is all they'll get. And being even more honest?, quite deservedly so!
If the US dared to take it Nuclear? We know, (and we know without any doubt at all), that Russia does have the ability to easily bring down all the USA's ICBM's, we also know the USA has no defence against even the much older Soviet ICBM's.
Let alone the modern lethal ICBM's like (Sarmat), a manoeuvrable long range ICBM that doesn't need to follow a ballistic path, carrying up to 24 MERVS, over speeds of Mach 20.7; 4.3 miles per second; 15,480 miles per hour. Yet none of them seem to know this, or even understand what this all means?
Also, because we saw the USA really foolishly, pull out of the nuclear arms treaty, (that prohibited the creation of any short-mid range nuclear weapons), now sees even the old defensive threat of "MAD", as an obsolete defensive threat today. They just don't understand.
Russia has created those short-mid range missiles, and they've done so creating, hypersonic mid-range missiles, able to carry nuclear tipped warheads, or full nuclear warheads, travelling at speeds we've not seen before.
Today's reality, really is very clear, right at this time, as we speak, the USA is just incredibly lucky that Russian nuclear policy doesn't threaten pre-emptive strikes, but is only a defensive nuclear policy.
If the USA had done any of what they are today, in the times of the USSR for example, a nuclear war would have already taken place. But now that Russia has unveiled what the USA is trying to do, and after hearing the USA bizarrely say what they're trying to do?. It will see Russia, today, looking to change their defensive nuclear posture to a pre-emptive nuclear posture, and who could blame them?.
Because (as Russia is very aware) reality always trumps everything else, and today's reality, is, they'd be able to strike and hit all US defensive stations and their platforms, along with all US nuclear silos, destroying them all within minutes, long before the US could even begin to think about any sort of retaliatory launch.
And even more reality is, that any launch from the USA today, would be pretty much meaningless. As today, Russia also has the S-500 (anti-ballistic missile defence systems), able to operate alongside Russia's new A-235 anti-ballistic missile system, with the ability to shoot down hypersonic attack weapons, hypersonic orbital platforms, ballistic missiles, and their combat units, as well as satellites in near space.
And again, we know this is not just "Russian propaganda", (it never is), as we've all seen and watched Russia do exactly this, and they did so, so damn easily too. ICBM's of the USA, can be detected, tracked and shot down quite easily by Russia today.
Any Nuclear effort from the USA, today?, would see them lose, and they'd lose big time, massively, annihilation is the only apt word. Yet we read them all with simply no idea about any of this, none, not a clue, man!
The USA has never met a fully militarily capable country in war, the USA struggle against many non-military capable countries all the time, man! They've lost to non-military capable countries, and even just militia groups all throughout their terrible history of fighting wars, they're absolutely useless at fighting wars, one of the world's worst at it!
Russia is the biggest test of them all. Just ask the Mongol Golden Hoard, ask the Ottomans, ask Napoleon, or they could ask Hitler!
The USA is one of this world's very worst militaries at fighting wars, yet they all talk like they have some incredible, awesome military record. What's that all about?
I guess they just don't know or understand, that Russia is about 960 times bigger than Kuwait?. When the USA invaded Kuwait against Iraq, the USA deployed 750,000 troops. How many troops do they think they'd need to attack and invade Russia? LOL
An excellent video: gives a superior overview of Ukraine's
situation and possibilities.
Wow! I was not expecting such an in depth review! Thank you.
No fan boy pandering, just pure undiluted honest opinions with evidence to back it up. What is there not to like. Thanks you for been a sane channel
Thanks a lot for reducing the background music. Much easier to understand the English of an Italian for a German. :-)
Excellent analysis! Well worth watching, thank you.
You are one of the most incredible creators on UA-cam
Thank you for this in-depth analysis! Much appreciated!
If you were representative of the average idiot, we would all live in utopia. As it stands your sober, educated estimates are the closest thing to knowledge available to the layman. Thank you!
Thank you.
Lol. That vacuum cleaner taught him everything he knows.
Great video!!!! This my favourite format not necessarily 1hr but longer format is awesome. Would love a video on SU-57M And what you would change for 2025. I know Westerners will lose their minds but you are only channel capable of doing an unbiased video on UA-cam. Keep up great work.
I second this and keep it as long as possible I love the long form content, youtube is flooded with ADD short clips and this is one of the few channels that does long form.
He’d probably produce more than the 12 in existence, un-crash the 5 that have crashed, and actually make it stealth and able to carry radar-guided missiles internally.
Wow I learned a lot watching this discussion of the F-16! Thank you!!
The last part of this video is extremely optimistic. Great video overall. One of the rare non biased channels on the topic.
Miracle weapons are good for the home front and for urging soldiers and commanders to keep fighting when victory is impossible and defeat is imminent.
Nobody is talking about miracle weapons Ivan
@@knoll9812 The media always talks about miracle weapons. They're just called game changers these days.
I really enjoyed your overview of F-16 alternatives and later arguments. Thanks. I'll go watch some older videos as suggested.
I appreciate the format. Interesting and well researched information.
Phenomenal video, I think this is your best video yet. The style and execution of presentation is very impressive and professional.
I was a machinist, toolmaker, and mechanical engineer specializing in aerospace and lasers in a former life.... long story to follow and skip! Praise all ye who read this! I am now a fantasy writer, and only follow aerospace with a sentimental eye -- have to say, you are one of my most relatable and trusted sources in the dark woods of the web. Most especially, I love your channel because you never once go into laser-mounted weapons for dog fighting. Now, as I said, my past life is behind me. But all I did from the age of 17 to 36 was work on jet planes and lasers. Here is a subject for you. I want you to make sure that ALL your viewers understand how inefficient lasers are. Go down this rabbit hole. I want you to determine how many F22 Raptor engines it would take, to power 1 C02 laser (we will ignore YAG, Chemical Dye, et for the moment) pulsed at 120KW -- which is what I calculated it would take to equal the power of the F22 raptor's M61A2 20mm ballistic autocannon (I am being ridiculously generous to my 120kw pulsed laser, here). You do that, and the number will make you laugh -- and you will think back to aircraft like the B58 Hustler, B36 Peacemaker, and XB-70 Valkyrie, and consider them "Woefully, under-powered -- far too few engines!" Remember this ratio C02 = 10% === that means an infrared laser requires 10 watts of power for every 1 watt of output. Chemical dye lasers are more efficient but imagine each crashed plane creating the same effect as all the chemical accidents across the world in the last decade. So, go C02 as a baseline, and figure out how many F119-PW-100 engines you would need to power that blasting laser... I am begging you to do this, because I don't want to listen to one more net aviation enthusiast tell me that they are "miniaturizing lasers" to replace guns on the new NGAD Fighter.
Lasers just aren’t as effective as throwing things at each other.
Fantasy land?
Those artillery shells with the buckshot seem to be pretty effective.
Wonder how they would compare as a warhead replacing most of existing air to air warheads (yea I know they are massive in comparison.)
Other option is drones armed with that warhead so it can be detonated before the video link dies.
Yep. You have to have a full blooded nuclear reactor to have minimally viable laser. Our electricity generating capabilities are too shallow for this type of weaponry
Haha. This is brilliant. Thanks for cutting through the click-bait and hype.
@@justrandomguy5010It doesn’t have to be quite a nuclear reactor, but it has to be pretty big. The US built an airborne laser on a 747 using chemical energy to power it. It was powerful relatively near the aircraft, but the trouble was that it was designed to shoot at missiles a thousand miles away. And there’s no laser that can currently do that through the earth’s atmosphere, no matter how many reactors are powering it. Obviously, any fighter is a lot smaller than a 747, and can’t waste space storing a bunch of chemicals and other equipment specifically for lasers. So any talk of putting offensive laser weapons on a fighter is fantasy absent some major technological breakthrough. About all you can do with lasers on the power available on a fighter aircraft is laser dazzlers to try to blind incoming missiles. But even that is dubious (sorry, Su-57 fanboys). Lasers could become viable on ships or ground-based air defenses soon, but right now it’s feasible mostly for defense against drones. Using them to actually shoot down missiles is still a ways off.
@@bluemarlin8138 Yup, and the chemicals in those dye lasers are NASTY. Read NTRL DE83011896 : Laser Dye Toxicity, Hazards, and Recommended Controls. No way you want to be a pilot in that plane if that laser took some shrapnel and sprung a leak. It would be like those poor German test pilots going up in the ME 163 Komet. Oops, fuel leak. Now my legs are melting off! Oh, look, I'm now a puddle of gelatinous goo instead of a fighter pilot. A terrible way to die, and you can't have every plane crash turn into a toxic spill site. Nope. Stick with what works: Fox 3, Fox 2, for the win.
I love what you said at 35:00 about the point of air power. Air assets are meant to be force multipliers for ground units. Hard to explain but i think your viewers understand the point of being able to target multiple hard targets from extended range and knock them out with little danger to ground units.
Love your channel. You are perhaps the most unbiased expert in air power on youtube.
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That is conventional thought and will probably continue to be true in most or many conflicts for decades to come.
But, there are exceptions the Kosovo-Serbia conflict being one where air power was decisive in bringing a close to active fighting because US strategic bombing was so devastating. This is one of the major options the US can bring to bear when it's directly involved like what would happen in the Pacific that is different than the Ukraine war which is like fighting with one hand tied behind the back.
I appreciate your incite. Your knowledge is very good, and I appreciate your tendency to focus on the practical.
Both the Mig-29 and Su-27 derivatives are capable of outmaneuvering an F-16. Both the Mig-29 and Su-27 derivatives are capable of Mach 2+. The F-16 and F-35, for that matter, are Mach 1+ aircraft. A number of Su-27s have been upgraded to a generation of fire control system/radar that is a generation below current for Su-30's and Su-35's, but these retrofits do make them more competitive with newer aircraft.
The Mig-29's are available in M/M2 versions.
Once in visual range, it is going to come down to the skill of the pilots, with a small performance benefit to the Russian aircraft. Both the Mig and the Su-27 derivatives can outmaneuver and outrun an F-16.
The Su-27 derivatives can stay aloft much longer than an F-16. If the F-16 is to have any survivability, it would have to come from a long way from the front lines. Carrying external fuel tanks will limit weapons load and should it be intercepted, the external fuel tanks will have to be jettisoned.
Both the Su-27 derivatives and the Mig-29 can reliably operate in improvised conditions, but in reality, these aircraft are likely to be operating much closer to good fields, than the F-16.
Up to this writing, the Russian air defences haven't had much trouble with US supplied HARM missiles. Russian point defense systems can destroy US supplied HARM missiles..
The Mig-31 was mentioned. The Mig-31's role is attacking bombers and naval targets, where super-maneuverability is not needed for the mission. However the Mig-31's are adapted to deliver long range hypersonic Kinzahl Missiles, which should work pretty well against any basing of the F-16. In addition, the Mig-31 could be adapted to a mission of overview of a narrow battle area from 50 to 60,000 feet, with its look-down radar, a retrofit necessitated by coping with terrain hugging B-2 bombers.
However, even the Mig-31 is not completely a slouch in air to air combat, carrying the latest long and medium range air-to-air missiles and capable of Mach 3 speeds. Maybe the AWACs and refueling aircraft might be added to its menu.
Any place the F-16's could be based, including Romania and Poland, are places that can be hit with Russian long range precision missiles and Western air defense systems have no answer for that.
Even the mercenaries hired to keep the F-16's in the air may have a short life expectancy.
The F-16's have never been operated in a battle space with the Russian military's anti-air capabilities, much less the numbers of peer aircraft.
Arrogance is deadly. There are plenty of videos on the web, wherein on paper, less capable aircraft, have prevailed in the hands of highly skilled pilots. The F-16's are no more to be discounted than the Su-27M's. But the numbers are on the Russian's side in a head to head, with the F-16 as a weapons system.
There may be a dash of the arrogance I warned about in the previous paragraph, in this anecdote: I remember reading a comment on UA-cam by someone who was watching an aerial performance of a Su-27, being put through its paces by a highly skilled pilot. The writer asked the F-16 pilot who was watching the Su-27 with him: What would you do if you had to fight an Su-27? The F-16 pilot answered: Bail out.
Putin has it right, like the Leopards, the F-16's will burn on the Ukrainian Steppes. The question is, will the flailing super power that sent them, driven even more irate by this next inevitable failure, so as to become so completely irrational and senselessly desperate as it recognizes its moment of hegemony is irretrievably gone, burn the whole World in its fury.
this is the other side of the medal that some people don't wanto lo look at.
Zelensky's big problem: How to sell F-16s on the black market?
Got African dictators on speed dial.
"How to sell F-16s on the black market?"
Grain shipment route.
I just don't see this being the game changer that Ukraine and Ukraine friendly forces are suggesting.
It might help in one massed attack, say on crimea but this appears to be a war of attrition based on who lasts the longest. Ukraine is not in a good position. They have to hope Putin folds his cards.
@@rogersmith7396???? How ? 😹, they continue to get western arms and Russia is struggling to produce enough of their own
It’s a game changer because of the highly effective stand off weapons it can carry
not a game changer but good help
If the game at the current is bleeding out the available Ukrainian MiG-29s until they are all gone and then Ukraine will have no more airforce, then giving Ukraine F-16s changes the game in the sense that Ukraine can always count on having *some* air force left as opposed to *none*.
Great work, free from propaganda and very in depth looking. Thanks a lot for your work!
A brilliant work giving us the whole picture and I must admit most of it was new to me. Thank you 👌
Weapons win battles, Logistics win wars right? If F-16's are sent to Ukraine in an accelerated time frame I would expect some pretty substantial losses due to a lack of competency and lack of logistics. Whether that is an acceptable trade off is above my pay grade. I think that was a very good analysis for a guy that talks to a vacuum cleaner :)
Relatively speaking the F-16 is an easy fighter to fly, so you'd expect experienced pilots to get used to it pretty quickly. As too the logistic problem: the F-16 has standard US mounting points, so pretty much the majority of rockets and other ammunition the US and European have can be attached to the F-16.
@@tjroelsmajust give the guys the manual of falcon 4.0.... That should get them rollin...
So many NATO Countries have extensive experience operating and maintaining F-16 - OP’s comment is negligible
@@tjroelsma It's the maintenance and needs of the F-16 that is the issue, not the weapons.
@@znail4675 much better than the MiG-29's maintenance schedule
Ukraine should make 20 plus f16 decoys and start moving these about as widely as possible
Plywood F-16s would freak out Russians and draw some missile strikes to destroy them. If built in large numbers they could help conceal the true locations of real F-16s while using up expensive Russian missiles.
They've already got decoy missiles like that
Maybe a job for those old drone F-16s that could be used out of Davis Montham.
Thank you. Clear analysis, explication and explanation, as usual. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
Thanks so much for this video. It was very clear and super informative. I learnt a lot from it
Excellent video !!!! Also one thing that comes to my mind is for MANPADs and SHORADs system (STRELA, IGLA, etc) the F-16 is much better to be visualy confirmed for them than for instance SU-27 and SU-24 since both sides uses them.
S400s are much more dangerous to Ukraine aircraft than Manpad type systems in general
Just stopped by to say two things.
1. That is a damn nice looking F16 - to bad the new ones just look like they all had a horrible car crash, the surgeons mixed up the body parts of three different people and put all back together with way to much plaster cast
2. Your videos are exceptionel, will watch it as soon as I can find some time.
Superb, detailed, and well grounded analysis.
I remember seeing a documentary last summer showing Ukrainian pilots playing DCS in VR. Being a DCS Viper pilot myself and knowing that the f16 is a hi-fidelity studdy level module complete with full operating manual im willing to bet that their pilots are more proficiant than many people think.
DCS is amazing (Grim Reapers are the best DCS UA-cam channel btw), however, actual combat is way harder imo. No comparison to actual combat flying
Great content! Many uncomfortable questions there. Thanks for your hard work!!
As always, I am in awe of what you've put together from public-domain intel. Thank you for this detailed analysis.
One question: could a depot maintenance facility be made mobile? That might alter the equations enough to make a difference.
Re: long format videos, I am at an age where time is much more valuable than money, but I MAKE TIME for your videos because they are worth it. Definitely keep 'em coming.
Superb presentation, in depth anaylsis, presented thoughtfully (and and with sufficient levity to reveal Milenium would be a most pleasant companion philosophizing over a stein or two).
Thank you, sir. Well done!
Excellent video!! I eagerly await your well-researched and unbiased videos.
I seriuosly doubt that Nato and Ukraine experts did more detailed analysis on this topic. Well done, Sir. It was a pleasure listening you.
Trust me, they know better...but they do what they are told.
The cost of American equipment is not a problem...as long as the current administration keeps making accounting "mistakes" in the 10's of billions.....
In reality ... these F-16s will be destroyed (quickly) in this env, and like the F-16, M1A2 and ATACMs
shills call next for F-35 as the WH pretends they can't ... and then they (again) will send everything.
Maybe they just want to throw this ineffective equipment away? They could still use them against 3rd world militaries that have no AA?
It's got to be useful for something. It will be embarrassing if they're sent to Ukraine.
Yeah sure, the current administration is responsible for the decades-long bloated defense apparatus. Delusional.
When you’re upgrading to F-15EX and F-35 - you can afford to “gift” F-16’s.
If I understand correctly the accounting mistake was failing to account for depreciation and using purchase cost as the metric.
as usual thanks for the thorough and balanced analysis so difficult to find main stream... grazie
Man this should be interesting. Just like Leopard and Bradley.
If the F16s fly from Romania, Russia WILL escalate massively. Russia (rightly or wrongly) views this conflict as existential fight with the West over the future independence of Russia.
Right,...who cares if the American crews are "recently retired" (remember the Flying Tigers)....Russia will react accordingly.
RIGHTLY. The US & netherlands install a Putsch regime through a coup to bring ukrop-nazis to power...? Of course the US and Netherlands will support this ad infinitum; it's theri baby. Nuland, Pyat, Biden ... all these idiots. They did this TO GET Russia to fight back. Imagine Russia supplying a group of Mexicans who were rabidly committed to the idea that the US stole say ... New Mexico ..? Or CA ..? The US would just say "well, Mexico (like Cuba) is just an autonomous nation ... entitled to make the decisions consistent with their Sovereign interests ..? But, we don't need a "thought experiment" to see how wonderfully behaved the US is; we're in Syria right now. Is THAT not an UNPROVOKED INVASION ..? Where we (again) link up with goddamned ISIS...just as we brought them to power in Libya ... Iraq ... etc. Everything we touch turns to shit ... only some people think that's an accident and not (at some point) the stupid plan.
They say they regard it as s fight for existing
We know they are lying they know we know
But they still lie and some of the sheeple believe .
Just an excuse to threaten " I nuke u strong!"
Don't agree.
I'd argue you're wrong in This.
Firstly, if they are operating within Ukraine then it's difficult to justify escalation.
Secondly, the question becomes what will the escalation be. Russia doesn't have hidden assets or a secret Army not committed to the War Yet. So escalation options are either mass mobilisation or nuclear strikes.
Russian nuclear doctrine is Very clear on situations in Which Use of nuclear weapons are permissible, and Ukrainian owned aircraft operating in Ukraine is not one of Them, and the repercussions Would be significant. So Thats easy to Rule out.
The second option of Mobilisation will have huge economic Costs, and Putin May be running out of political capital to get away with Such an upheaval. He is already having to deal with Russian militias incursions into the belgorod region and Wagner forces marching towards Moscow.
So escalation at this point is quite the empty threat for Now.
New subscriber, really enjoying your content, much appreciated. Maintainers facing ISR-based attacks will be new and teffifying, as will actual fighter contact with air defenses. F-16s and 18s sucking up runway debris will also be interesting, as will any need for aerial refueling if basing gets pushed back far enough. All the best
Sorry to hear the algorithm is giving you headaches. Even your hastily prepared posts are of excellent quality. I find your logic to be very sound on this topic. Keep up the great work.
I’m not sure an F-16 can even taxi off runway? Has anyone even seen one taxi on grass for instance? Maybe roads? One thing is for sure, If UKr gets more airforce, RU will increase attacks in the airfields as it did recently to hit the home airfield of the Su-24 squadron reportedly using Storm Shadow
It can't because it isn't designed for it (only A-10's and maybe Gripen can). They need to sweep the tarmac 3 times a day to clear it from sh@t going into the engine when flying sorties. Imagine the shock of 100 personel in the middle of the runway in broad daylight when the hypersonics arrive...
@@ltdada74 exactly my point. 👍 RU will need to focus on the airfields for awhile and that’s the Vipers either destroyed or grounded for awhile
@@mcal27 You are spot on; the operating bases will be the weak spot of any western aircraft delivered to Ukraine. They need to operate way too far from the actual battlefield to be effective when they arrive near any target and mid air refueling isn’t an option.
@@ltdada74fuel pods
Russian mod claims a lot of things , not everything is correct.
Somehow the storm shadows are still flying
The program isn't realistic without a foreign legion of NATO pilots and remote bases outside of Ukraine. The former is not a problem, but the latter would force Russia to bomb Polish, Slovak or Romanian staging air bases... WW3.
Also small quibble, in case of an "encounter" between a Mig-31 and an F-16, the Mig will always be able to outrun it or more likely would stay away in the fist place.
The latter would force Ruzzia to sit there with its collective thumb up its ass, because striking NATO territory means a quick defeat for Ruzzia. (You know WWIII means someone has to actually join Ruzzia, right? No one is that suicidal except maybe Belarus). And there’s no reason F-16s couldn’t be based inside Ukraine. Ruzzia was unsuccessful at taking out the Ukrainian Air Force on the ground, and there’s no reason to think they’d be more successful with F-16s. They’re just too small to target en masse with long range weapons if they’re not bunched up (which they wouldn’t be). Also, while former NATO pilots would certainly be the best option, it’s not as if they’re training Ukrainians who have never flown fighters before. A lot of them are experienced Ukrainian pilots, but there aren’t enough aircraft to go around right now.
Excellent video which was really informative. Thank you for all your efforts in creating it.
Finally, a very in depth and sober discussion on Ukrainian air war needs and the realistic barriers to same. I want Ukraine to get what ever it needs to win this war, but the weapons and systems have to be effective. Amazing video, congrats and thanks.
yeah give nukes to mad fuhrer actor elensky. Great thinking much logic. banderites
It needs people. Are you ready to go to a front line with a rifle? Your friends, are they ready? Come back when you are ready to.
I hope you understand my comment well enough. The conflict Will Not end with F16 delivery to Ukraine.
Great video, as usual!
Something I am not very convinced, though is the use of manned fighters to perform SEAD. You end up risking assets valued in 100s of millions to hunt land systems one order of magnitude less costly. Doesn’t seem like a good deal.
I am thinking manned aircraft are becoming obsolete. Use swarms of cheap drones to overwhelm any defense. Fly boys are no doubt resistive to this as is the MI Complex.
@@rogersmith7396 Cheap drones don't really work against SPAAG's like Gepard. Their time has come and gone already. They're easily defeated by systems like Gepard, something designed in the 1970's and considered obsolete. Just look at those Iranian drones. They had some early success but the vast majority is now intercepted. Like any new technology, drones will need to become smarter and more expensive to remain relevant.
@@passantNL
"They're easily defeated by systems like Gepard (...)"
Another gay NAFO myth, completely deconstructed by the Russians as documented in loitering strikes.
Germany can't even produce the munitions, to fight of weeks of drone strikes.
@@passantNL How about stealthy?
@@passantNL How many SPAAGS do you need to 1000km frontline?
They would have exactly the same effect as Leopards do on the ground.
Good analysis and good effort. Thanks for posting and please keep it up.
As an aircraft engineer. It does not take that long to train the Ukrainian ground crew. They already have technicians , just not trained on F16. But a spanner is a spanner. Lefty loosy still applies. The principles of flight en Engines still applies.
So in civil aviation a typical type training only lasts 6weeks of theory and 2 weeks of ‘practical’ (more show and tell) training.
And after that you are fully licensed. And you are not expected to perform everything from the top of your head. Thats why you have a maintenance manual.
So you read the AMM and perform the required task. So 2 months of training and they can work on a civil plane. So let say 3 months also learn the weapons integration. Ect.
So it does not take that long.
Also as the aircraft gets older it only needs more maintenance at depo level ( aka heavy maintenance ) so on the line it remains the same.
Same as in civil aircraft.
Maintenance of western a/c atkeast are done by flight hour and flight cycles. So the more if flies the more maintenance it needs. And when you perform heavy maintenance it acts as a reset. So it can go an other let say 1000 flight cycles or what ever the limit is before it requires heavy maintenance again. The only limit is the life of the airframe let say 60000 flight hours. Beyond that you need a life extension program which is special maintenance and inspections and replacements or strengthening of certain components to again give it a reset of airframe.
So some presumptions are incorrect. Otherwise great video
amazing condensed and synthetic analysis. thank you so much !
I love your content it is very in depth, unbiased and well informed….bravo my friend
We now know, 🇺🇦 didn't want the 🇦🇺 F/A-18's. Also, 🇮🇩 had F-16 for 9 years before it felt competent enough to send them on Baltic Policing NATO missions. Till then, it used its MiG-29's, despite their age.
Absolutely superb video. Fascinating analysis. Thank you!
I suspect f-16 will fare as well as the Bradleys, which means not very well and not any better than their old Soviet counterparts
Equipment is only as good as the crew using them. And fact is that Ukraine doesn’t have a particularly well trained military
Ukraine lost some m777s at the start of the war too , but nowadays are using them quite effectively and doing huge damage to Russia.
Green troops lose stuff .
18 Bradleys doesn't decide the war .
@@martinjrgensen8234more inexperience than a lack of training
I like the new setup you chose for this video!Nice atmosphere.
"I like the new setup (...)"
That was also my first impression - it's a solid production quality.
Panoramic analysis. Sobering but needed.
That was excellent! When you hear “F-16’s” for Ukraine you just don’t think about the details and all the facets that have to be in place to make it work. What a thorough analysis of the issues ! 👍
one thing people fail to discuss is the F-16 versions. I mean the F-16A is completely different from the F-16V. it's like an entirely different aircraft with completely different capabilities.
The problem is, where can you find a F-16 A variant like a Block 10 when most of them are already in Moth ball field or basically scrap already?
The only existing F-16 variant that are possible to be give is the C Variant such as a Block 20.
But some Country still use them due to current situation.
The Philippines still need F-16C Block70 or Block 52 or Gripen C while Taiwan still need more F-16V.
Malaysia is buying Canadian F-18 as surplus for spare parts to kept their F-18 flying.
You see the problem here? Their's no available aircraft to be given from their allied, American is the only country that can give them which most of them still operate F-16 Block 20 but US being US they are stuborn btch to force them to give their remaining Block 20 F-16.
The replacement of F-16 to F-35 in NATO allied is 2025 to 2027 so it will take time to give them F-16 when Their F-35 haven't arrive yet.
Turkey current President is still btchy to this curreny state so no F-16 will be given to Ukraine from Them.
@@ryanc00p3r3 that's false. as it was proven in the video there's many F-16 to be donated. in fact, countries already expressed there will to do it if usa allows. that's a non issue.
NATO F-16’s have *all* been upgraded periodically over time. Only the airframes have remained original
Doesn’t matter what model is sent.
It will be blasted out of the sky..
Russia has the best SAM’s in the world.
Simples.
@@HoLeeChit11some people have already forgotten the rate of attrition for the US air force and Navy during the Vietnam war
I think the axehead being used in this conflict is a huge game changer. If the Ukrainians thought they had a chance flying under the russian SAM radars, that was nullified by the mig-31 and SU-35 use of the axeheads.
Modern war is just brutal. Modern weapons on all sides of battles are super effeftive compares to wars in years past.
The R-37 was effective in a few instances against Ukrainian aircraft. However, it’s not usually going to be very effective against fighters, because that’s not what it was designed to do. It’s big and not very maneuverable because it was designed for heavy bomber-sized targets. The fighter-sized aircraft is hit were Su-24/25s and one MiG-29. The Sukhois were flying very low and were heavily laden with ordnance, and what limited ability they had to evade dropped to nearly zero at that low altitude. The MiG-29 has good speed and maneuverability, but the very dated avionics meant it probably had little to no warning and didn’t even try to maneuver. The F-16 has slightly better maneuverability and engine performance than the MiG-29, but more importantly, even older F-16s have much better sensors and may be networked to NATO air defense radars and AWACS aircraft. They won’t be taken by surprise...at least not by a long-range air to air missile. And if they get plenty of warning, they can probably evade them. That still leaves the issue of Ruzzian SAMs, but since one of the F-16’s primary missions is SEAD/DEAD, that cuts both ways. And those HARMS will be much more effective when used from an aircraft that can actually provide guidance to them.
@bluemarlin8138 the r-37 is rather bulky yeah and meant as a high value asset killer...awacs and such. But, it's a threat to the smaller jets and if they relax too much will blow them out of the sky. It can accomplish its mission by keeping the Ukrainian air force far away as well.
There's been this belief over the last year and such that the Russian military doesn't know how to build good weapons...I try to help people see, Russia is a quite capable entity with a military that can handle itself very well. They aren't the US...no. They wouldn't fair well against the combined might of NATO either. But anyone else, is going to have problems unless NATO opens up it's armory to you and let's you have all the missiles you could ever want. Even still, Russia keeps coming.
Russian SAMs are scary. I would love to see first hand how the Pantsir works...or watch an S-400 do it's thing.
I'd like to learn more about Russian Air to air missiles still. Their somewhat amraam equivalent, the adder I think? I might be wrong but I find that stuff so fascinating. Two objects flying 1000 mph launch missiles at each other and they have full 3d range of Motion and these missiles hit their targets still. The math/science/engineering going into developing these weapons is amazing. Older me now would yell at younger me if I could go back to study harder and learn this stuff
@@bluemarlin8138 doesn't need to blow up the plane to be effective, the R-37 just needs to make the target drop their payload.
@@bluemarlin8138Putin has stated if F16 are introduced into Ukraine, ALL support assets including AWAC will be deemed legit targets as they would be direct participants. How effective will the F16 be flying blind?
They will not just need a trained pilot but a trained crew as well and a really good bunker, but the enemy has bunker busters very difficult situation. They have to figure a way to stop the factories in Russia making the weapons.
Excellent work, you've covered the topic very well.
Excellent summation - much appreciated clear headed analysis.
Hey millenium, I for one really appreciate your videos :) you are always insightful and unbiased, cheers from Peru! one of the few western channels where I can watch and be certain that I won't be getting rose tinted glasses takes.
Oh, new wonder weapon
1.javelin
2.m.777
3.himars
4.leopard
5.f-16
6.nuclear weapons? I guess
V 1, V2, planes with no propellers. Always works well. Fritz X.
All of those worked
3 key problems that wasn't mentioned in a video.
1 - From where these planes will operate? The only safe place for them are in Poland. Otherwise they will be destroyed right on the airfield. Which mean Poland will effectively be forced to enter war and in this case NATO won't be able to justify it, and Russia will have green light for immediate strike on any Poland's military objects. NATO won't be able to support Poland because Ukraine is already hard enough for them to handle. Poland will be against Russia all alone to mitigate escalation to global nuclear war.
2 - Any F-16 plane is considered by Russia as a means to deliver nuclear payload and they warned US about it. Which essentially mean that by providing F-16s, US gives to Russia a green light to use tactical nuclear weapon preemptively. This will be justified because US went too far and escalated it. This will be blamed on US. Russian officials already said that they won't be bothered to "believe" to US that non of these F-16s were armed with nuclear weapon. Now, you might think that US wouldn't use nuclear weapons on territory of Russia. And that's true. But i don't see anyone from western countries admitting that Crimea is in fact Russia's territory. And that mean.. US can decide under the most stupidest idea - to attack Crimea with such weapon. US can just claim - hey, it's not Russia's territory! After all, they are doing THE SAME shit with conventional weapons and cruise missiles. What's the difference?
3 - Everyone keep forgetting that nuclear weapon was used twice in history, and world hasn't ended since. It can be used again. F-16 might be just enough to justify it's use either on Poland, or on Ukraine, or on both. Before you start saying that Russia will be over after that because NATO also has nuclear weapon.. Do you really believe that we can destroy entire planet just because of a fucking Poland or Ukraine? Who the fuck cares about Poland or Ukraine so much, so they would be willing to destroy entire world because of 2 countries which tried to act "tough", provoked Russia and got obliterated by it in the end? The answer is - no one. There won't be any reaction from NATO had this occurred. Because it's all just a bluff. Obvious bluff and Russia knows it. Russia just wants to avoid this escalation. But if you keep pocking this bear.. You will realize just how much Poland or Ukraine "really" means to NATO. Because they will pretend these countries never existed. Otherwise the world will be dead. If ignoring destruction of 2 countries is a way to avoid global nuclear war, they will gladly ignore them. It will be a huge political blowout for Russia, but that's harsh reality.
If there is one thing that Russia is about to ran out - it has to be the patience. Which is why F-16s is a bluff.
Unless they are idiots.. I mean.. US has President Dementia, so..
The Australian FA-18 is also preferable for 2 reasons: 1. much greater flexibility - t can take off from non-standard runways such as highways which thew F16 can not do. 2. Australia has about 40 ready for immediate transfer to Ukraine. Finland also operates the FA-18 and can provide nearby training and support. Which countries are willing to supply 40 + F16s?
congratulation sir, viva ukraine for winning the war soon in social media.
Listeners shouldn't kill the messenger, especially when the intelligence is so competent. Only five year olds jump up and down with their hands over their ears and screaming. Most grow out of it.
Congratulations on all the effort you put into providing such good intelligence.
Yup, wish the Ukrainians would listen to this voice of reason… the “Hopium” needs to stop
Brilliant, detailed and comprehensive as usual. You were right: I can find in your videos pertinent analysis that cannot be found anywhere on the Internet and it's remarkable. Congratulations.
23:00: Well, just for fun: seen from Italy Belgium is definitely North but it is not exactly part of a "Nordic solution"... To me, as a French, Nordic countries refer to Scandinavia, from Denmark to Sweden plus Iceland. Even Germany is not a "nordic" country for us. It might be a geographical perspective ...😉
All the best to you
Thank you for the education. I didn't know the differences in Russian air to air missles. Good content.
Thank you for your thoughtful presentation. I'm pleased to have found your site. It isn't easy to know the truth about anything today. Everyone exists in their own informational bubble.
Trump lost the election. Truth.