I have always sucked in *PvP* and thus came up with a nice lil solution. When someone invades my world I use the chameleon spell, hide like a god damn ninja. All the while praying the invader doesn't find me. I then send a message to my would be killer that follows as such: "To my most esteemed invader." *"You're gonna have to work for your meal".* Love and kisses The Host of this world.
Even better, get really good at Parcour. I promise that will piss off 99% of invaders. Find hard jumps and climable stuff and practice till you can do it on the fly. Most people even hardcore invaders do not know how to do a 90 degree jump. I.E. sprint forward and turn 90 degrees before you jump when you don't have room to run straight at your jump. Some good examples are jumping on top of churches. All of them can be climbed. And that place you get the basic twinblade, people think you need a horse to get in there but you can jump from the wall next to the tree lol. And if they get in you hop out the opposite side and make another loop. Hillarious.
Lol this is the best idea I've heard yet because I too never wanted to play PVP anyway so if invasions can turn into a little hide'n'seek instead I might actually have some kind of fun out of invasions. :D
Reminds me of the hide and seek invasions you'd get in DS3. No marker telling you where they are, just map knowledge and a general distrust for inanimate objects lol
Whenever I invade, I always let the enemy strike first. If they don't, I wait a little bit, and if they clearly don't want to fight, I leave the world to find someone who does want to fight. Also, if they are engaged in pve, I sit nearby and wait until they've finished.
@@FantomMisfit I know that there are people who do this. Shame on their whole family. I myself used to jump off cliff ledges or sit next to a sight of grace until you kill me. If you don't get the message when I sit down emote by a site of grace then I just go kill myself. I have gotten to a point now though where I don't fight people. I just avoid them. Literally had a guy cut his finger because I spent almost 20 minutes just dodging him. He didn't hit me once. At this point I'm just trolling invaders 😂
Most of my experiences with invaders is that I get excited to see what the invader has and figure out how to counter it, just for the host with 800 hp to rush in and get killed immediately hah like bro let me go first
Like, seriously, if you have homies, pop an emote or something, let the homies handle it. Or not, but the invasion goes longer if the host remains alive. So, if you're hosting, stay alive, let the help soften us up first. Only the cheap will rush you mid emote.
Yeah I love when two phantoms are ganking me and the host runs in because he sees his summon taking damage. I usually deliberately kill the phantoms first to shit on the entire party but if the host runs in like a dip shit.... I'll kill 'em. That said if you have a highly skilled invader often your chances of living are higher if you 3 on 1 them. When a party duels me one after the other I would easily place my win ratio at like 4:1.
@@quizasproximovez8146 Weird flex but okay. I take it you are one of those toxic invaders then. You do realize that the people you invade likely don't practice PvP, so it means so little that you beat them considering how much less experience they have than you do at fighting players. People seem to miss the fact that experience is just as important as the equipment.
I love invading, and sometimes I run into people who are pretty friendly and don't want a fight. I usually just go back to my world and let them keep on playing. Also, respect to the chads who let invaders do 1v1s with their summons.
i have run into friendlies as well, i normally start attacking a few paces out of range to signal that i wanna fight and i gotta say 90% of the time they give me the best fights
I commented this on another video & some loser called me soft & said people who use co op make him angry & he invades because he doesn’t want them to progress lmao
@@thatoneguy2886 Yeah, when you run into people actually equipped and somewhat trained for PVP you get some real tough fights! So many people don't understand that 95% of invaders become trivial if you just take an hour or two to get a good PVP weapon and maybe practice a bit or watch a guide.
@@Bob-jh6xt or attack as a group of 3, no matter how good I seem to get in 1v1 and 2v1 as soon as a third shows up I need luck or a mistake out of them
Generally I play solo but sometime I offer up my services for people looking for help. I find invaders a really fun aspect of the game. They offer a challenge sometimes. After over 2800 hours in The Lands Between, the base hasn’t much challenge left. I love the invasion feature. I’ve even been trying my hand at it lately.
@@michaelhosenfeld89By using tongue you get invaded more easily and a second Invader can be summoned to help Edit: It's essentially a Neon sign saying "please invade me"
This video sort of makes the case against invaders. There is zero chance that a new player or even an experienced PVE player will figure this out on their own - except the vigor part (one would think).
i would disagree for the simple fact that it is reasonable to except your players to notice that a given tactic is not working and then try something else
i once got invaded by a moonveil user, he dealt like a half damage a hit (i had around 50 vigor) once he ran out of fp, i ran up to him and flaming striked him with my +8 claymore, and he died, he only had 17 vigor, this was level 50!
started with elden ring last week as my first souls game. this whole thing is so addictive. the fact u just run into a unknown world this feeling makes this so speacial daaamn
Every time i do pvp, i get scared. Idk why. Im not a confrontational person at all, so my heart beats out of my chest, i shake and stuff. Im not a whuss irl but invaders and pvp make me feel awful. Especially toxic/unfair matches.
You know that is a game, but your mind sees it like a real danger, and of course people don’t like be killed) so it’s ok, play with friends and gank, there is no shame in that, if you are not aggressive person
most of the time the match ins unfair for the invader and not the other way around. I used to get extremely stressed in pvp when I started with souls games, it just took a bit of time to get to know the games to turn someone invading me into a fun time even if I end up losing
The complaints I'm reading right now are for casual co-op players in the early game (under level 40) and no idea how to play running into twinked red builds. Saw it myself at level 35 a couple times, but the vast majority of reds were normal the problem is more the frequency. At that level I wound up at stormveil as a co-op summon and had a nonstop run of 7 reds in a row.
My first (and last) invader experience in Elden Ring was watching this dude with 2 giant hammers get stuck in the jump attack animation, and then slide across the land like he was riding two giant roombas or some shit. He started chasing after my friend while I watched and laughed, that is until he lifted off the ground while still stuck in the animation and somehow killed me instantly 💀
Can't go wrong with a banished knight halberd, although the stigma attached to dual cross-naginatas remains such that people have an odds on chance of just leaving when they see them. They react like you're trying to stab them with pure leprosy.
@@IliumGaming And that's the other reason keeping them around is great. Most people who use them tend to suck, and for this reason the ones unafraid of the cross-naginata will usually assume you're bad if you use them. They'll roll up expecting easy parries and fall prey to ye olde hot swapping.
@tek512 It's crazy how much competitive gamers can correctly predict other players' moves for the most asinine reason. Y'all need to either touch grass (respectfully speaking, not trying to be rude) or get a psychology degree 😂
I have had some fun invasions, some annoying and some down right confusing... Think my favorite was in Dark Souls 3 in the Ariandel woods where I used the lay down gesture in a bush and just waited for the invader to find me. They came so close a couple of times that they literally stood by my feet and then moved away. Either they did not use the lock on, thought i was a dead Follower enemy as I wore that armor or they were humoring me :-) They ended up leaving after while on their own. Also I think the mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger.
My way of dealing with PvP is pretty much playing the entire game solo. Might summon for a boss fight here or there...but I'm always right at the boss fog gate when I do it. I haven't had a non-NPC invader in my game in over a year.
Hate is a strong word, I nothing invaders. Forced PVP is an aspect of the game I keep locked out and just not engage in it. Invaders can try and invade, however I won't stop my gameplay because of some numbskull wanted to get into my session. I monitor for every new connection to the network, after a while it became easy to seperate their connection, so I just cut it. They either can't connect or if they manage they will get lagged out so bad they won't even be able to move. Reap what you sow when you want to ruin someone else's gameplay, hope it's worth the wait for a matchmake.
If I didn't feel like dealing with them I either went offline, or just found the nearest way to die to avoid them and then be immune to the invading. Perhaps sometimes I did feel like it but typically I have specific PvP days and if it's not that I'd rather not bother with them at all XD. Elden Ring helped me with that cuz of no solo invasions, I'd really rather not deal with someone invading me with the power level of builds in this game...
You hosts are kind of the reason Invaders had to start using broken builds to begin with. If we don't you guys will 3 man gank and try to blender us the minute we spawn in. We're already at a disadvantage due to you guys having more flasks
I’ve been a souls player since demon souls, and I still learn stuff from your channel. Thanks for being such a bastion of knowledge and hilarity. Thank you, sincerely and deeply ❤
Just install elden ring seamless co-op mod. Its by far the best souls multiplayer experience possible. 1. No invaders. 2. You dont have to fight bosses again you share the victory. 3. You all get torrent, so no slogging for 40 minutes to get through a level.... 3 times. Its worth the instalation if you wanna play with your friends. No cancer red boys running through the level hiding and waiting to stab you while your dealing with adds.
Me and my friends like to play through with taunters tongue on. If its only one phantom we give them the opportunity to duel one of us. If they decide not to take the duel we basically just turn into cats playing with a mouse until they're dead. Whats really fun is when the invaders dont stop pouring in and it turns into wave survival
I split my time invading and sun broing. Sometimes i wish voice chat was a thing so i could tell the host don't rush after the invader, their just trying to bait you into a bad situation. When they chase they usually die. Continue through the level and wait for them to come to you, then attack in force at once. All parties involved will have a better fight this way, and the host team will likely win. As an invader i dont care to win, i just want a fun chaotic fight, win or lose.
@@harveydent1731Against Tos btw. You Dcers will get banned Edit: Also DCing just means I can keep invading you since DCing doesn't give you a cool down I can either Invade you nonstop and force you to play offline not play or get banned by spamming DC. It would be alot better for you if you just fought back at least then you'd get 15 minute cool down
@@FantomMisfit considering how liberal I’ve been with the cord , they give you plenty of chances before that happens. But right now I usually just summon at the boss gate so there is no time for invasions.
The issue with all this is that you can't really get solo invaded in the first place unless you actively want to get invaded. "Unwanted" invasions usually involve an invader with a twinked build via CE or other save editing means showing up and attacking a host with an unupgraded sword, 2 random garbage talisman slots that don't work for PvP, as opposed to 4 talismans and hyperoptimized builds, and a friend who only signed up to play with them. Getting a build good enough to stand up against most invaders in PvP as a host (since invaders are usually armed to the teeth and they absolutely have to, since I've invaded before and know that you need every unfair advantage you can get when there's a good chance you're going head first into a 3 man gank squad) means you wouldn't need the help in co-op in the first place because such a build would make short work of any boss solo. Flaming strike is not just a good ash of war for low level PvP, it singlehandedly carries you through the first half of the game as a low level, to the point where I got all the way to mountaintops as a level 25 with flaming strike and a +3 weapon. Using it makes *everything* easy, not just invaders. Following your "guide" makes the PvE a cakewalk, because damage is damage, and damage doesn't care if it's a player or a mob, and as expected, showing up to Godrick with a 12 +10 flasks, flaming strike and lightning slash with a swordspear in one hand and cleanrot sword in the other makes the fight an absolute joke. On the topic of flasks, The issue with that is the host in early stages wouldn't have 14 +12 flasks unless they skip progression, they might have 8 flasks upgraded to +3 or so, but they don't exactly have twice the flasks as an invader, and would often have less healing than the invader in the early game. Past like level 50 or so invaders just become an absolute joke in co-op since it becomes an actual 2v1, but in the early game, some invaders are the worst things to exist unless your phantoms run sweaty PvP builds and give you all the meta shit. Not saying all invaders are like that, as many invaders have enough dignity to not just shoot fish in a barrel, but I've run into a piece of shit the other day who does seem enjoy that, attacking us during a field boss fight, laggy hits from 7 miles away, with the shamelessness to use double bleed nagis against a level 12 wretch with no armor and a club and point downing afterwards. So no, it's not really fair to say that the complaining about invaders, especially in low level, is just people whining about things that they can easily prevent, but what I do agree is that not all invaders are smelly tumors that only serve to ruin your day. The above example was a rare instance, and most of the time invaders use reasonable builds that actually make you feel like it's your fault for dying to them. Though as an occasional invader myself, I can say this. Invasions are either too easy or too hard, because you either run into 2 people who barely scratch you with their hits and can barely take 30% of your health with a full combo (meanwhile you can do the same to them in a single hit) or a 3 man gank squad of overleveled phantoms and a host that got handed everything on a silver platter, that catches you and oneshots you if you even dare to run a reasonable build, forcing you to resort to unreasonably overpowered builds just to remotely stand a chance. And the problem with this? The former example is against players who are playing normally, as those are people who are following the natural progression of the game. The latter reason is why I feel invasions have been ruined, because these gankers who don't play co-op the intended way have forced most invaders to need to hyperoptimize their build for PvP to a degree where getting matched up with normal players who just want to have fun is literally like matching a hydrogen bomb against a coughing baby.
Important thing to note: Invaders will try to pressure you into retreating, because roll-catching is much simpler than out-trading. That being said, I've also managed to scare Invaders by knocking them into the air with Stamp: Upward Cut when they thought they had me on the run.
Gave elden ring pvp a try today after watching this video, i did not follow any of the steps except for getting vigor to 40 (duh) and with my nagakiba in hand i went out for some pvp as a solo host, during about 2 hours i've seen maybe like 2 twinks with post game weapons that were there just to kill me regardless what was happening but i must say majority are really good sport and even let me kill some pesky mobs bothering me before starting the fight, i used to pvp in DS3 so i know the basics of spacing and lag and won the most of the fights while not having even a single point down thrown at me, good 8/10 (Early layndel lvl 70ish and some random Items i got along my good start journey) Good video its fun and gives a lot of useful info while not showing invaders as mindless monsters
I recently started doing a fight club kinda thing I summon random furled fingers and lure invaders. My name says 1v1 per Invader and everyone gets it. The invaders get a pvp fight and normal players dont get invaded. A win win. And winners get a prize. All without chat
I love invading, and I love even more when hosts feel like giving me some good 1v1s. My man, thank you for making the Lands Between a better place for everyone.
I liked bloodborne's system. Whenever you coop, a bell maiden spawns and until she is killed you can be invaded. However, in the last few areas of the game, there is a bell maiden already in the area. This made these natural pvp hotspots, while still reducing the chances of being invaded at low level. Although, I was fine with the human/hollow thing DS1 and DS3 had going for them.
the pvp community is what kept the older games alive as long as they've been, it will keep Elden Ring going too. Hell, my 2 characters i've beaten the game with, i use the tongue just to get some invaders for some of that old souls pvp
@@toryunaminosaki1022 How come? Most people don't give a rat's ass about PvP. Just about the only part of the community's contribution I can recall was them largely stirring up the pot about Demon Souls servers, and even then, it affected single-player experience as well so various content creators and contributors to wikis, etc, were on it as well. It's a minority of a minority who, unlike, say, fighting game players, don't even really have the opportunity to host events or contribute to a larger economy of competitive play.
My favorite experience with an invader came to me in Bloodborne. I was playing with my friend and we were romping around in Cainhurst when we got invaded. I was the host at the time, and I asked my friend they let me 1v1 them. So I dueled my fellow hunter. They had a nice arcane strength build, swapping between Holy Moonlight and the Amygdala arm. I had my axe. I was quite fond of them and the back and forth was great. We both ran out of vials and it was down to the wire. Regardless who one, it was a hell of a fight and I loved it. I'm less in love with the feel of combat and weapons in Elden Ring, so I'd get far less out of it, but I'm still glad I have the option to get invaded even while flying solo. Something I don't mind opting into.
@@stiven355Realistically, only a very small percentage of people really want to engage with that mechanic. Imo its the one thing that holds these games back from being truly mainstream. Give people some coop options without invaders and you will have a small subset of players that will get their invader/invaded experience .
Man, the moment I get my new PC to run Elden Ring, I will be so prepared that I might actually use the taunters tongue just to screw with invaders lol Thanks Waifu, thou teachings shall not be wasted!
@@ETBrooD Interesting so 150-200 is considered meta for PVP? I remember someone debating on settling for 125 as the meta level to keep builds somewhat unique.
@@Efical150 is meta, that said, there's brackets below. Past that point, you're invading with some rather mean advantage, cause the matchmaking breaks past a certain point.
honestly, if im ever with friends and we get invaded, we like haveing a fight club. If we have multiple invaders it becomes even better, as we can basically have a team on team fun match. Like half of the invaders refuse to participate and just get ganked, but when they join in the "arena", the theme builds all faceing off one at a time is just fun.
@@Gmystro actually I havent, and I just looked it up. It honestly looks really cool. I just remembered ganking from my leauge phase (wasn't a long one tho) and still use it in unite and souls game pvp. Plus OnlyWaifu has also used it in at least a few vids.
People get so annoyed by us but chase the bro is who inspired me to do invasions back in ds3. The challenge of trying to survive a gank and trying to kill as many players as you can is awesome
Yeah, at least he one of the most tryhard ass player, who NEVER shows his loses. That’s is why his victories cost nothing, cuz deep inside he is real life looser, who afraid to lose in game, where he is about 2/3 of his life time 😅🤓
Just recently used some of the advice (Vigor Pumping) and decided to make use of the taunter's tongue at the divine bridge to do a bit of PvP and also gain access to Leyndell on my smol Prisoner (decided I wanted to Kill the Grafted Scion during an NG Run before continuing onto the Graveyard). Worked like a charm, and got 2 fun little duels out of the deal while chopping two invaders to death with Glintblade and Carian Knight's Sword. Ta!
Don't really summon co-op so no experience with invasions after DS3, but I do recall hearing about one "Ooh, jerk move," incident of someone co-oping for help against the Draconic Tree Sentinel guarding Leyndell, only to find an invader camping right next to the Sentinel.
I was going to say stop saying git gud because it's scaring away new players, but honestly the game hasn't been gatekept enough with the influx of cowards this game has.
@@RahnonymousElden ring is not Sekiro, it's about options of play, with cautious play being fully valid. Admittedly there is a bit of overcompensation for past bad behavior by invaders, well a lot of those invaders were massive jerks. And while the whole get gud bit is fundamentally eye roll worthy, I can look past that because good can encompass so many playstyles.
@BrendanKOD I don't consider "running a 10k marathon away from red man and letting your overleveled phantom babysit" a valid option of play. If you want to do coop, deal with the consequences of invasions, if you don't want that, play offline. They're one of the kinds of individuals that made the pvp in Elden Ring turbo cancer
I get a lot of the points, Elden Ring really did help with the invasion bs and these are helpful tips. Still glad I don't have to worry about them though, mods stick me in no internet land.
I wonder how to overcome the extreme passive turtle playstyle; I really would love to see a video on this since I meet more and more bonfire duelists who play exactly like that; they never engage and wait and wait with their already huge advantage as a host.
My quick answer is using a oppressive weapon with a statue effect (Ex: Vyke's spears, PS Spear(Cold or bleed), Albinauric Halberd if ur are Arcane build and put sleep on it or small rapier for fast revovery with BHS or Quick step) Apply the more pressure you can on them (Of course dont swing ur weapon in the void to avoid punish of course) and be patient, make them stress, make them fear of a rollcatch. Look at them and delay your attack. Punish everymove you can. When you got a solid hit or the status is about to proke, i almost garanted you the host you fight will roll of stress. Roll catch them then wait for another roll catch or a ripost than punish it. of course its more easy to say to do. This kind a fight will be always the guys will be more patient and calm and take the best opportunity will win. Of cousre if the host is always constantly runnign away its a different story.
@@Adam-tu1qx that is what i face increasingly and it is annoying as hell. I always drink estus since this is an invasion, i do neither respect or play "fair" against bonfire duelist, I just can not handle the turtle gameplay, where they just wait for me to do anything
@@GodfreyEnjoyer1 impaling thrust/piercing fang, rot/blood grease, and the lance or heavy thrusting sword of choice. force them to have to deal with you with things they can't turtle
You have to play smart and as a team, invader typically has 2 advantages. Experience and the pve around them. Play patient and stick to the mission of getting to the boss door. Every second that the invader is not actively fighting, you should be moving towards the boss. Use knives to lure the pve 1 by 1 as to not overwhelm yourself. If the invader runs away, then do not chase unless you’re certain that you can kill, they’re leading you to a trap
between player invasions being opt-in, and spirit ashes already being decent enough support/distraction for bosses, it's just so easy to never ever interact with other players hell, i didn't realise you had to opt into the system until well after i finished the whole game feels like a rather poor design decision imo, since having others screw around in your world (and vice versa) was always such fun in fromsoft's previous games
Yeah as a frequent invader, a lot of this true. Vigor is my go-to stat, I don’t even touch my damage stat beyond the bare minimum needed to use my chosen weapon until it’s at least +16. Having 40-50 vigor before lvl 60 is the norm for me, and I only go below that ever in very niche specific builds in mind The weapons listed are true, thrusting weapons are great for chasing, but one thing waifu didn’t mention is that pierce damage actually ignores a good amount of physical defence on a trade, meaning you can very easily kill people through “jousting” them. Lastly, and this wasn’t mentioned in this video, but spells for the most part SUCK. Unless you have the surprise, you’re very unlikely to hit me. You can roll through most sorceries and incantations if you know the timing. I may be an old veteran who’s been invading in Fromsoft titles for years now, but it’s not that hard to learn. If you’re a spellcaster, your goal is to make me roll, make my actions predictable and coordinate with your buddies for pinning me down and timing when to hit me together in those recovery frames of my dodges, not to necessarily hit me and kill me with your 70 int at lvl 80. You will be my first target, keep that in mind. My goal is to make your buddies think I’m fighting them while keeping my attention on you. Do not give me the opportunity to get near you
Lastly, yeah I basically spend the first 2 hours of the game for each new character basically just collecting every golden seed and sacred tear between Caelid and Leyndell. I don’t twink often, but when I do, I want my flask count to be comparable to you who has yet to leave limgrave, removing any advantage of being able to heal more than I can and win by attrition, which I can’t do after a certain point of progress because I will always have half the flasks rounded down compared to you. Keep that in mind for higher level invasions, you can just keep a cool head and through enough skirmishes I will be forced to be more daring and reckless in my attempts to kill you while you the host still probably have much more opportunity to heal and keep a good space if you’re keeping up with my damage. However do not be fooled by my fleeing at low health. I know what you’re thinking, and I’ll use your confidence and attempt to prevent me from healing to lure you into just another trap. Never once think an invader will do what you think you’ll know you’ll do. The biggest killer for hosts and cooperators is thinking their victory is assured. My biggest advantage over you is your assumptions and confidence. If I’m acting exactly how you think I would, I might not be. Never stop doubting. It’s like chess in a way, the player thinking the most steps ahead and not in the moment is probably gonna win
Ahh yes PVP casters. One of two experiences you will have. 1. an annoyance who forgets to level his hp up at all because hes an idiot and only knows how to tap R1 as fast as possible while his melee buddies actually hit you. or 2. The guy who knows how to chain combo 30 spells in a row to disintigrate you.
@@t.b.cont. An example of someone who is a pro at invading and has been doing this for the last 10 years or so. The only way to fight them is to become pro at PVP yourself which is a time consuming journey littered with failure and frustration (I would assume). Those who would rather spend their limited play time on exploring and PVE have no chance or interest in catching up so they will never stand a chance against such an invader - hence the hate.
Holy shit.. this is factual information.. claims are backed with reasoning, you rant about rusty's weapon tier list and, unlike most other channels with all the aforementioned qualities, nice audio quality. Also nice voice though that doesn't excuse the constant verbal abuse.
Before I was afraid of twink builds, now I know that those who use it can't be guaranteed and it's bad because they can't play like everyone else xD 0 spacing, 0 all
Well, I play solo and so I don't often get the fun of destroying invaders. But when I'm offering my help, I like to keep the invader busy for the host. The system is quite fun in Elden Ring. I remember the old Dark Souls times, where invasion happens everytime you didn't look like a rotting cheese. Boi these invasions were frustrating, but in Elden Ring they are fun :D
Yes, that’s funny to speak about low level gear at the beginning of a game, having madness seal at level 35😅, no trading was noticed, but even ones! Only honest playthrough. Damn I love that Argentinian guy, but he such a tryhard, but toxic not in a game, but in videos, where he can fuсk around.
@@lususnaturae881 Classic invader argument. Dying isn't the problem, being interrupted every 5minutes by some toxic little shit when you just want to play with a friend is. Like it or not, but there's a reason Seamless Coop is a popular mod for this game.
I just cannot understand those people that crticize PvP because they never take the time to level vigor. My brother in the Elden Beast, without it you'll have a bad time even trying to complete the game.
As horrifying as the scary red men are I still don't understand why so many people need help, They are nothing compared to the power of duel bleed nagakibas.
Elden Ring has the most wide moveset for weapons compared to previous games, yet i rarely see anybody doing something apart from poking, running and jumping attacks. I dunno what's worse, this or classic R1 spam
I go find them! I dont PvP in Elden Ring, but ive played enough pvp that i dont let it bother me. Usually, its a nice respite from whatever else Im doing. Sometimes its really funny and friendly and its kinda like 'oh hey! Another player! All right, lets do this!' And at worst, its all hell breaks loose BUUUT its still fun! The bad red man is just another gamer looking for awesome experiences.
I never thought people don't lvl Vigor when starting because when I started, Vigor was my main state to lvl because I liked big health bar and surviving more than one attack and it just seemed like common sense.
The mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger. Almost went for the Bloody Helice guess, but then remembered blocking with it on occasion and it's guard couldn't be that bad haha.
Well, I appreciate all the actual useful tips for dealing with invaders, but I still would rather just use the co-op mod and avoid them entirely. Thanks anyway though AI Ranni. On a serious note though, 10:28 I'm putting my money on the giant ringed finger flicker
With a flamberge occult in the off hand and zweihander bleed with stomp sweep in the other hand. I don't run I face the invader head. "Let there be close quarter combat, Tarnished!"
For real though, how do YOU deal with invaders currently?
Throw magic until my potato pc die, or the invader die, He will feel like he is playing Touhou.
By befriending them with the power of friendship-
*Dies*
Cry in a corner.
Fight. Die. Respawn. Put taunter tonge again.
By being better then them
Thank you for helping me deal with the scary red men, Ranni the Witch! I promise to not let your teachings go to waste :3
Teaching will be our way out out of it pvp promise it won't missed
Only Waifu please let me out the basement, I’ve been trapped down here since Last year…
take that horrible joke and get out lmao
Mate, appreciate what you have, do you not realize how many people would kill to be in your position.
Down bad...
DAMN FUCKING RIGHT I AM@@ThePootArmy
OW is a dude LMAO people down bad for a 2d image
one thing i always find funny is that low level vigor players usually tend to say "just dodge everything" put then proceed to ALWAYS get hit.
"Have high Vigor!"
Me, who pumps up their HP first in every game they play if it's an option: "I see this as an absolute win!"
Me who always runs glass canons and has no experience with fromsoft titles.... I'm in danger.
I learnt quickly.
I have always sucked in *PvP* and thus came up with a nice lil solution.
When someone invades my world I use the chameleon spell, hide like a god damn ninja.
All the while praying the invader doesn't find me.
I then send a message to my would be killer that follows as such:
"To my most esteemed invader."
*"You're gonna have to work for your meal".*
Love and kisses
The Host of this world.
That is truly hilarious. Good one
Even better, get really good at Parcour. I promise that will piss off 99% of invaders. Find hard jumps and climable stuff and practice till you can do it on the fly. Most people even hardcore invaders do not know how to do a 90 degree jump. I.E. sprint forward and turn 90 degrees before you jump when you don't have room to run straight at your jump.
Some good examples are jumping on top of churches. All of them can be climbed. And that place you get the basic twinblade, people think you need a horse to get in there but you can jump from the wall next to the tree lol. And if they get in you hop out the opposite side and make another loop. Hillarious.
@@Scriffer spells?
Lol this is the best idea I've heard yet because I too never wanted to play PVP anyway so if invasions can turn into a little hide'n'seek instead I might actually have some kind of fun out of invasions. :D
Reminds me of the hide and seek invasions you'd get in DS3. No marker telling you where they are, just map knowledge and a general distrust for inanimate objects lol
"As simple as winning a foot race against a discord mod."
Ok, that...that was good. 😂
Whenever I invade, I always let the enemy strike first. If they don't, I wait a little bit, and if they clearly don't want to fight, I leave the world to find someone who does want to fight. Also, if they are engaged in pve, I sit nearby and wait until they've finished.
Thank you. Some people just aren't interested and so many invaders are just sanctioned greifers at this point 😢
W, Thank you
@@KeiTheOne991I would be more merciful if you and your boys weren't trying to backstab me the minute I spawn in 😂
@@FantomMisfit I know that there are people who do this. Shame on their whole family.
I myself used to jump off cliff ledges or sit next to a sight of grace until you kill me. If you don't get the message when I sit down emote by a site of grace then I just go kill myself.
I have gotten to a point now though where I don't fight people. I just avoid them. Literally had a guy cut his finger because I spent almost 20 minutes just dodging him. He didn't hit me once. At this point I'm just trolling invaders 😂
Commenting for the UA-cam algorithm.
Also I cannot wait for the PvP tips video, your channel has inspired me to begin trying it out again!
Most of my experiences with invaders is that I get excited to see what the invader has and figure out how to counter it, just for the host with 800 hp to rush in and get killed immediately hah like bro let me go first
They don't want a twink to save him
Like, seriously, if you have homies, pop an emote or something, let the homies handle it. Or not, but the invasion goes longer if the host remains alive. So, if you're hosting, stay alive, let the help soften us up first. Only the cheap will rush you mid emote.
don't forget the invader lagging past you and going straight for the host because the netcode is shit
Yeah I love when two phantoms are ganking me and the host runs in because he sees his summon taking damage.
I usually deliberately kill the phantoms first to shit on the entire party but if the host runs in like a dip shit....
I'll kill 'em.
That said if you have a highly skilled invader often your chances of living are higher if you 3 on 1 them. When a party duels me one after the other I would easily place my win ratio at like 4:1.
@@quizasproximovez8146 Weird flex but okay. I take it you are one of those toxic invaders then. You do realize that the people you invade likely don't practice PvP, so it means so little that you beat them considering how much less experience they have than you do at fighting players. People seem to miss the fact that experience is just as important as the equipment.
I love invading, and sometimes I run into people who are pretty friendly and don't want a fight. I usually just go back to my world and let them keep on playing. Also, respect to the chads who let invaders do 1v1s with their summons.
i have run into friendlies as well, i normally start attacking a few paces out of range to signal that i wanna fight and i gotta say 90% of the time they give me the best fights
I commented this on another video & some loser called me soft & said people who use co op make him angry & he invades because he doesn’t want them to progress lmao
@@thatoneguy2886 Yeah, when you run into people actually equipped and somewhat trained for PVP you get some real tough fights! So many people don't understand that 95% of invaders become trivial if you just take an hour or two to get a good PVP weapon and maybe practice a bit or watch a guide.
@@Bob-jh6xt or attack as a group of 3, no matter how good I seem to get in 1v1 and 2v1 as soon as a third shows up I need luck or a mistake out of them
Generally I play solo but sometime I offer up my services for people looking for help. I find invaders a really fun aspect of the game. They offer a challenge sometimes. After over 2800 hours in The Lands Between, the base hasn’t much challenge left. I love the invasion feature. I’ve even been trying my hand at it lately.
Yeah, maybe there’s an issue there. Lol
It’s honestly the only game I’ve played since launch. Honestly the best game I’ve played in over 30 years.
As an invader blues are usually a blessing as they are most of the time just free flasks
I'm watching this to get ideas of how to fight better when I do invade.
Is it bad that when I play with a friend we always have the tongue on
@@michaelhosenfeld89Your one of the good ones. As an invader, I thank you for
@@RWNetworkEX thanks?
@@michaelhosenfeld89By using tongue you get invaded more easily and a second Invader can be summoned to help Edit: It's essentially a Neon sign saying "please invade me"
This video sort of makes the case against invaders. There is zero chance that a new player or even an experienced PVE player will figure this out on their own - except the vigor part (one would think).
i would disagree for the simple fact that it is reasonable to except your players to notice that a given tactic is not working and then try something else
i once got invaded by a moonveil user, he dealt like a half damage a hit (i had around 50 vigor) once he ran out of fp, i ran up to him and flaming striked him with my +8 claymore, and he died, he only had 17 vigor, this was level 50!
started with elden ring last week as my first souls game.
this whole thing is so addictive.
the fact u just run into a unknown world this feeling makes this so speacial daaamn
8:48 should also mention warming stones. You can get to Altus fairly early to pick up the cookbook
Every time i do pvp, i get scared. Idk why. Im not a confrontational person at all, so my heart beats out of my chest, i shake and stuff. Im not a whuss irl but invaders and pvp make me feel awful. Especially toxic/unfair matches.
Oh my God, I'm not alone. I mean, it is just a game, why am I feeling this way whenever PvP occurs!?
@@ClouseFair Not sure..Thats why i avoid pvp and invasions. Except whem im in party chat with people i PvP with , then its actually fun.
You know that is a game, but your mind sees it like a real danger, and of course people don’t like be killed) so it’s ok, play with friends and gank, there is no shame in that, if you are not aggressive person
@@not_ITEMless I dont really gank. Unless the invader runs a toxic build or spams certain weapons/spells. But yeah, fair point.
most of the time the match ins unfair for the invader and not the other way around. I used to get extremely stressed in pvp when I started with souls games, it just took a bit of time to get to know the games to turn someone invading me into a fun time even if I end up losing
The complaints I'm reading right now are for casual co-op players in the early game (under level 40) and no idea how to play running into twinked red builds.
Saw it myself at level 35 a couple times, but the vast majority of reds were normal the problem is more the frequency. At that level I wound up at stormveil as a co-op summon and had a nonstop run of 7 reds in a row.
My first (and last) invader experience in Elden Ring was watching this dude with 2 giant hammers get stuck in the jump attack animation, and then slide across the land like he was riding two giant roombas or some shit. He started chasing after my friend while I watched and laughed, that is until he lifted off the ground while still stuck in the animation and somehow killed me instantly 💀
Can't go wrong with a banished knight halberd, although the stigma attached to dual cross-naginatas remains such that people have an odds on chance of just leaving when they see them. They react like you're trying to stab them with pure leprosy.
I love seeing dual nagis. Usually means a really easy parry
@@IliumGaming And that's the other reason keeping them around is great. Most people who use them tend to suck, and for this reason the ones unafraid of the cross-naginata will usually assume you're bad if you use them. They'll roll up expecting easy parries and fall prey to ye olde hot swapping.
@tek512 It's crazy how much competitive gamers can correctly predict other players' moves for the most asinine reason. Y'all need to either touch grass (respectfully speaking, not trying to be rude) or get a psychology degree 😂
@revolverjesus98 I mean, you right though.
I have had some fun invasions, some annoying and some down right confusing... Think my favorite was in Dark Souls 3 in the Ariandel woods where I used the lay down gesture in a bush and just waited for the invader to find me. They came so close a couple of times that they literally stood by my feet and then moved away. Either they did not use the lock on, thought i was a dead Follower enemy as I wore that armor or they were humoring me :-) They ended up leaving after while on their own.
Also I think the mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger.
My way of dealing with PvP is pretty much playing the entire game solo. Might summon for a boss fight here or there...but I'm always right at the boss fog gate when I do it. I haven't had a non-NPC invader in my game in over a year.
Hate is a strong word, I nothing invaders. Forced PVP is an aspect of the game I keep locked out and just not engage in it. Invaders can try and invade, however I won't stop my gameplay because of some numbskull wanted to get into my session. I monitor for every new connection to the network, after a while it became easy to seperate their connection, so I just cut it. They either can't connect or if they manage they will get lagged out so bad they won't even be able to move. Reap what you sow when you want to ruin someone else's gameplay, hope it's worth the wait for a matchmake.
That’s cool man, you block every guy, who wants to play with you, real good stuff! I see you like playing with people 😅🤣
If I didn't feel like dealing with them I either went offline, or just found the nearest way to die to avoid them and then be immune to the invading. Perhaps sometimes I did feel like it but typically I have specific PvP days and if it's not that I'd rather not bother with them at all XD. Elden Ring helped me with that cuz of no solo invasions, I'd really rather not deal with someone invading me with the power level of builds in this game...
You hosts are kind of the reason Invaders had to start using broken builds to begin with. If we don't you guys will 3 man gank and try to blender us the minute we spawn in. We're already at a disadvantage due to you guys having more flasks
I’ve been a souls player since demon souls, and I still learn stuff from your channel. Thanks for being such a bastion of knowledge and hilarity. Thank you, sincerely and deeply ❤
Just install elden ring seamless co-op mod. Its by far the best souls multiplayer experience possible.
1. No invaders.
2. You dont have to fight bosses again you share the victory.
3. You all get torrent, so no slogging for 40 minutes to get through a level.... 3 times.
Its worth the instalation if you wanna play with your friends. No cancer red boys running through the level hiding and waiting to stab you while your dealing with adds.
Do note that they add invasions in the dlc patch. Though it can be turned off in the settings of the mod.
1) yes invaders
2) buggy as fuck
3)constant crashes
4)constant updates that fix nothing
@@KingLich451occasional restarts and some bugs, still a great mod. One of the best co op experiences I've had in a game.
Me and my friends like to play through with taunters tongue on. If its only one phantom we give them the opportunity to duel one of us. If they decide not to take the duel we basically just turn into cats playing with a mouse until they're dead. Whats really fun is when the invaders dont stop pouring in and it turns into wave survival
This tarnished is traumatized… a cheater ruined my first experience with invaders in DS3, and I’ve never played online since 😔
😔
The mystery weapon is the ringed finger! Such a unique weapon couldn’t be forgotten
Great video this guide was helpful and I’ll use some of the information given. Love the FF themes in the background too
I split my time invading and sun broing. Sometimes i wish voice chat was a thing so i could tell the host don't rush after the invader, their just trying to bait you into a bad situation. When they chase they usually die.
Continue through the level and wait for them to come to you, then attack in force at once. All parties involved will have a better fight this way, and the host team will likely win.
As an invader i dont care to win, i just want a fun chaotic fight, win or lose.
I just got into PVP and its honestly not as bad as I thought.
very fun if anyone has yet to do so try it out with the mindset of just fuck around
And then ChaseTheBro appears
Pull the cord appears faster . Lol
@@harveydent1731Against Tos btw. You Dcers will get banned Edit: Also DCing just means I can keep invading you since DCing doesn't give you a cool down I can either Invade you nonstop and force you to play offline not play or get banned by spamming DC. It would be alot better for you if you just fought back at least then you'd get 15 minute cool down
@@FantomMisfit considering how liberal I’ve been with the cord , they give you plenty of chances before that happens. But right now I usually just summon at the boss gate so there is no time for invasions.
@@harveydent1731 Really the best way to do it if you scared of the Red guys that much 😂
"The way to kill powerstanced spear invaders is to powerstance spears" is the TLDR here
I rarely if ever ran into powerstanced Spears. Stop over exaggerating LMAO
The issue with all this is that you can't really get solo invaded in the first place unless you actively want to get invaded. "Unwanted" invasions usually involve an invader with a twinked build via CE or other save editing means showing up and attacking a host with an unupgraded sword, 2 random garbage talisman slots that don't work for PvP, as opposed to 4 talismans and hyperoptimized builds, and a friend who only signed up to play with them. Getting a build good enough to stand up against most invaders in PvP as a host (since invaders are usually armed to the teeth and they absolutely have to, since I've invaded before and know that you need every unfair advantage you can get when there's a good chance you're going head first into a 3 man gank squad) means you wouldn't need the help in co-op in the first place because such a build would make short work of any boss solo.
Flaming strike is not just a good ash of war for low level PvP, it singlehandedly carries you through the first half of the game as a low level, to the point where I got all the way to mountaintops as a level 25 with flaming strike and a +3 weapon. Using it makes *everything* easy, not just invaders. Following your "guide" makes the PvE a cakewalk, because damage is damage, and damage doesn't care if it's a player or a mob, and as expected, showing up to Godrick with a 12 +10 flasks, flaming strike and lightning slash with a swordspear in one hand and cleanrot sword in the other makes the fight an absolute joke.
On the topic of flasks, The issue with that is the host in early stages wouldn't have 14 +12 flasks unless they skip progression, they might have 8 flasks upgraded to +3 or so, but they don't exactly have twice the flasks as an invader, and would often have less healing than the invader in the early game.
Past like level 50 or so invaders just become an absolute joke in co-op since it becomes an actual 2v1, but in the early game, some invaders are the worst things to exist unless your phantoms run sweaty PvP builds and give you all the meta shit. Not saying all invaders are like that, as many invaders have enough dignity to not just shoot fish in a barrel, but I've run into a piece of shit the other day who does seem enjoy that, attacking us during a field boss fight, laggy hits from 7 miles away, with the shamelessness to use double bleed nagis against a level 12 wretch with no armor and a club and point downing afterwards.
So no, it's not really fair to say that the complaining about invaders, especially in low level, is just people whining about things that they can easily prevent, but what I do agree is that not all invaders are smelly tumors that only serve to ruin your day. The above example was a rare instance, and most of the time invaders use reasonable builds that actually make you feel like it's your fault for dying to them.
Though as an occasional invader myself, I can say this. Invasions are either too easy or too hard, because you either run into 2 people who barely scratch you with their hits and can barely take 30% of your health with a full combo (meanwhile you can do the same to them in a single hit) or a 3 man gank squad of overleveled phantoms and a host that got handed everything on a silver platter, that catches you and oneshots you if you even dare to run a reasonable build, forcing you to resort to unreasonably overpowered builds just to remotely stand a chance. And the problem with this? The former example is against players who are playing normally, as those are people who are following the natural progression of the game. The latter reason is why I feel invasions have been ruined, because these gankers who don't play co-op the intended way have forced most invaders to need to hyperoptimize their build for PvP to a degree where getting matched up with normal players who just want to have fun is literally like matching a hydrogen bomb against a coughing baby.
Important thing to note: Invaders will try to pressure you into retreating, because roll-catching is much simpler than out-trading. That being said, I've also managed to scare Invaders by knocking them into the air with Stamp: Upward Cut when they thought they had me on the run.
Best part of Waifu videos is when Wandering Flame hits you like a nostalgia dump truck at the end of the video.
Invaders are at such a massive disadvantage. You should never be losing a 2/3 vs 1 fight.
Tbf 24% of the players cant even beat Margit (According to Steam achievements) so expecting a little much from them 😂
Gave elden ring pvp a try today after watching this video, i did not follow any of the steps except for getting vigor to 40 (duh) and with my nagakiba in hand i went out for some pvp as a solo host, during about 2 hours i've seen maybe like 2 twinks with post game weapons that were there just to kill me regardless what was happening but i must say majority are really good sport and even let me kill some pesky mobs bothering me before starting the fight, i used to pvp in DS3 so i know the basics of spacing and lag and won the most of the fights while not having even a single point down thrown at me, good 8/10
(Early layndel lvl 70ish and some random Items i got along my good start journey)
Good video its fun and gives a lot of useful info while not showing invaders as mindless monsters
I recently started doing a fight club kinda thing
I summon random furled fingers and lure invaders. My name says 1v1 per Invader and everyone gets it.
The invaders get a pvp fight and normal players dont get invaded. A win win. And winners get a prize. All without chat
ah the old school fight clubs of Dark Souls. shame I didnt get into the genre back then, I missed out on a lot of potentially good experiences.
it's odd how few fight clubs i see, maybe because of the arena kind of making them unnecessary to get reliable 1v1 duels
I love invading, and I love even more when hosts feel like giving me some good 1v1s. My man, thank you for making the Lands Between a better place for everyone.
I liked bloodborne's system. Whenever you coop, a bell maiden spawns and until she is killed you can be invaded. However, in the last few areas of the game, there is a bell maiden already in the area. This made these natural pvp hotspots, while still reducing the chances of being invaded at low level. Although, I was fine with the human/hollow thing DS1 and DS3 had going for them.
Seamless Elden Ring co-op. The perfect way to play with friends on PC. Sadly, elden ring is almost uncomfortably large to play co-op otherwise imo.
Cheating
@@FantomMisfitthats your problem
I love it when Ranni crackles and pops when she moves
Nice to see waifu taking the other side and helping them too. Cheers and let's hope for 100k subs this year!
the pvp community is what kept the older games alive as long as they've been, it will keep Elden Ring going too. Hell, my 2 characters i've beaten the game with, i use the tongue just to get some invaders for some of that old souls pvp
@@toryunaminosaki1022 is that supposed to be a good thing?
@@toryunaminosaki1022 How come? Most people don't give a rat's ass about PvP. Just about the only part of the community's contribution I can recall was them largely stirring up the pot about Demon Souls servers, and even then, it affected single-player experience as well so various content creators and contributors to wikis, etc, were on it as well.
It's a minority of a minority who, unlike, say, fighting game players, don't even really have the opportunity to host events or contribute to a larger economy of competitive play.
My favorite experience with an invader came to me in Bloodborne.
I was playing with my friend and we were romping around in Cainhurst when we got invaded. I was the host at the time, and I asked my friend they let me 1v1 them. So I dueled my fellow hunter. They had a nice arcane strength build, swapping between Holy Moonlight and the Amygdala arm. I had my axe.
I was quite fond of them and the back and forth was great. We both ran out of vials and it was down to the wire. Regardless who one, it was a hell of a fight and I loved it.
I'm less in love with the feel of combat and weapons in Elden Ring, so I'd get far less out of it, but I'm still glad I have the option to get invaded even while flying solo. Something I don't mind opting into.
As a bad invader, please stop telling them the secrets of winning these, I’m dying painfully.
Dude honestly, this is rediculous.
As a bad ganker, I am terrible in pvp even with co-op summons.
@@stiven355Realistically, only a very small percentage of people really want to engage with that mechanic. Imo its the one thing that holds these games back from being truly mainstream. Give people some coop options without invaders and you will have a small subset of players that will get their invader/invaded experience .
@@stiven355 you honestly just get locked into "just another one" mindset and you get some that are better than others, but some that are just awful
Good
"If you have no friends like we do." Your honesty has granted you a *Like*
Man, the moment I get my new PC to run Elden Ring, I will be so prepared that I might actually use the taunters tongue just to screw with invaders lol
Thanks Waifu, thou teachings shall not be wasted!
To me on PC it feels like early/mid game invasions are quite rare. At around 150-200 should happen more often though.
@@ETBrooD Interesting so 150-200 is considered meta for PVP? I remember someone debating on settling for 125 as the meta level to keep builds somewhat unique.
@@Efical150 is meta, that said, there's brackets below. Past that point, you're invading with some rather mean advantage, cause the matchmaking breaks past a certain point.
@@elijahford3696Matchmaking barely works anyway.
Even at that level PC is dead, no one plays the damn game, especially invaders...@@ETBrooD
I like to run around the dungeons triggering traps as we fight, keeps it interesting. Frankly, I miss the invader dungeons from DS2.
Or the bosses that summon invaders as their mechanic. (Mirror Knight in DS2)
honestly, if im ever with friends and we get invaded, we like haveing a fight club. If we have multiple invaders it becomes even better, as we can basically have a team on team fun match. Like half of the invaders refuse to participate and just get ganked, but when they join in the "arena", the theme builds all faceing off one at a time is just fun.
Judging by the fact you used the term “ganked” you’ve definetly played the cesspit of a game that is For Honor am I correct?
@@Gmystro actually I havent, and I just looked it up. It honestly looks really cool. I just remembered ganking from my leauge phase (wasn't a long one tho) and still use it in unite and souls game pvp. Plus OnlyWaifu has also used it in at least a few vids.
This time's Mysteryweapon might be the *'Ringed finger'.*
Such a rare weapon. A pity it's Ash of War is so repetitive.
People get so annoyed by us but chase the bro is who inspired me to do invasions back in ds3. The challenge of trying to survive a gank and trying to kill as many players as you can is awesome
Yeah, at least he one of the most tryhard ass player, who NEVER shows his loses. That’s is why his victories cost nothing, cuz deep inside he is real life looser, who afraid to lose in game, where he is about 2/3 of his life time 😅🤓
Backstab? Backstabbb!
@@RendezvousWithRama Booooooty! :D ..
Just recently used some of the advice (Vigor Pumping) and decided to make use of the taunter's tongue at the divine bridge to do a bit of PvP and also gain access to Leyndell on my smol Prisoner (decided I wanted to Kill the Grafted Scion during an NG Run before continuing onto the Graveyard). Worked like a charm, and got 2 fun little duels out of the deal while chopping two invaders to death with Glintblade and Carian Knight's Sword. Ta!
Don't really summon co-op so no experience with invasions after DS3, but I do recall hearing about one "Ooh, jerk move," incident of someone co-oping for help against the Draconic Tree Sentinel guarding Leyndell, only to find an invader camping right next to the Sentinel.
Git gud
Git gud
I was going to say stop saying git gud because it's scaring away new players, but honestly the game hasn't been gatekept enough with the influx of cowards this game has.
@@RahnonymousElden ring is not Sekiro, it's about options of play, with cautious play being fully valid. Admittedly there is a bit of overcompensation for past bad behavior by invaders, well a lot of those invaders were massive jerks.
And while the whole get gud bit is fundamentally eye roll worthy, I can look past that because good can encompass so many playstyles.
@BrendanKOD I don't consider "running a 10k marathon away from red man and letting your overleveled phantom babysit" a valid option of play. If you want to do coop, deal with the consequences of invasions, if you don't want that, play offline. They're one of the kinds of individuals that made the pvp in Elden Ring turbo cancer
I didn't even know you could only randomly be invaded in co-op..... Always wanted to try invasions, they seem so fun!
The mystery weapon is the Ringed finger
I get a lot of the points, Elden Ring really did help with the invasion bs and these are helpful tips. Still glad I don't have to worry about them though, mods stick me in no internet land.
It's okay though. You can mod in Maliketh as your co op buddy so it works out. 😂
Ranni calling me sweet pet names makes me feel happy.
The mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger! Love the channel, keep up the great work.
there is something magical about being invaded or invading someone's world, for me it's the pinnacle of human interaction
Is it strange that I haven't played Elden Ring in 1 year but I like seeing OnlyWaifu videos about Elden Ring?
I wonder how to overcome the extreme passive turtle playstyle; I really would love to see a video on this since I meet more and more bonfire duelists who play exactly like that; they never engage and wait and wait with their already huge advantage as a host.
My quick answer is using a oppressive weapon with a statue effect (Ex: Vyke's spears, PS Spear(Cold or bleed), Albinauric Halberd if ur are Arcane build and put sleep on it or small rapier for fast revovery with BHS or Quick step) Apply the more pressure you can on them (Of course dont swing ur weapon in the void to avoid punish of course) and be patient, make them stress, make them fear of a rollcatch. Look at them and delay your attack. Punish everymove you can. When you got a solid hit or the status is about to proke, i almost garanted you the host you fight will roll of stress. Roll catch them then wait for another roll catch or a ripost than punish it. of course its more easy to say to do. This kind a fight will be always the guys will be more patient and calm and take the best opportunity will win. Of cousre if the host is always constantly runnign away its a different story.
Ranged. Make it expensive not to attack you (rain of arrows, honed bolt, rot)
Rune arced, flask chugging bonfire duelists sitting in luirinia with lightening weapons get a poop pot, a point down, a sever and block from me.
@@Adam-tu1qx that is what i face increasingly and it is annoying as hell. I always drink estus since this is an invasion, i do neither respect or play "fair" against bonfire duelist, I just can not handle the turtle gameplay, where they just wait for me to do anything
@@GodfreyEnjoyer1 impaling thrust/piercing fang, rot/blood grease, and the lance or heavy thrusting sword of choice. force them to have to deal with you with things they can't turtle
The video was good but the FF10 music in the background to round it up really made me smash that like button. Love your taste of video game music!
You have to play smart and as a team, invader typically has 2 advantages. Experience and the pve around them. Play patient and stick to the mission of getting to the boss door. Every second that the invader is not actively fighting, you should be moving towards the boss. Use knives to lure the pve 1 by 1 as to not overwhelm yourself. If the invader runs away, then do not chase unless you’re certain that you can kill, they’re leading you to a trap
I dont really need these tips at all, I just like to come here and hear her voice🥰 high key relaxing.
between player invasions being opt-in, and spirit ashes already being decent enough support/distraction for bosses, it's just so easy to never ever interact with other players
hell, i didn't realise you had to opt into the system until well after i finished the whole game
feels like a rather poor design decision imo, since having others screw around in your world (and vice versa) was always such fun in fromsoft's previous games
I personally like it. I've never been a multiplayer kinda person in general, so I've always been fine with playing these games single player.
i like to pull out a pair and of the longest katanas in the game, denying invaders potions because i have just a "little" extra range, is very fun
Yeah as a frequent invader, a lot of this true. Vigor is my go-to stat, I don’t even touch my damage stat beyond the bare minimum needed to use my chosen weapon until it’s at least +16. Having 40-50 vigor before lvl 60 is the norm for me, and I only go below that ever in very niche specific builds in mind
The weapons listed are true, thrusting weapons are great for chasing, but one thing waifu didn’t mention is that pierce damage actually ignores a good amount of physical defence on a trade, meaning you can very easily kill people through “jousting” them.
Lastly, and this wasn’t mentioned in this video, but spells for the most part SUCK. Unless you have the surprise, you’re very unlikely to hit me. You can roll through most sorceries and incantations if you know the timing. I may be an old veteran who’s been invading in Fromsoft titles for years now, but it’s not that hard to learn. If you’re a spellcaster, your goal is to make me roll, make my actions predictable and coordinate with your buddies for pinning me down and timing when to hit me together in those recovery frames of my dodges, not to necessarily hit me and kill me with your 70 int at lvl 80. You will be my first target, keep that in mind. My goal is to make your buddies think I’m fighting them while keeping my attention on you. Do not give me the opportunity to get near you
Lastly, yeah I basically spend the first 2 hours of the game for each new character basically just collecting every golden seed and sacred tear between Caelid and Leyndell. I don’t twink often, but when I do, I want my flask count to be comparable to you who has yet to leave limgrave, removing any advantage of being able to heal more than I can and win by attrition, which I can’t do after a certain point of progress because I will always have half the flasks rounded down compared to you. Keep that in mind for higher level invasions, you can just keep a cool head and through enough skirmishes I will be forced to be more daring and reckless in my attempts to kill you while you the host still probably have much more opportunity to heal and keep a good space if you’re keeping up with my damage.
However do not be fooled by my fleeing at low health. I know what you’re thinking, and I’ll use your confidence and attempt to prevent me from healing to lure you into just another trap. Never once think an invader will do what you think you’ll know you’ll do. The biggest killer for hosts and cooperators is thinking their victory is assured. My biggest advantage over you is your assumptions and confidence. If I’m acting exactly how you think I would, I might not be. Never stop doubting. It’s like chess in a way, the player thinking the most steps ahead and not in the moment is probably gonna win
Ahh yes PVP casters. One of two experiences you will have. 1. an annoyance who forgets to level his hp up at all because hes an idiot and only knows how to tap R1 as fast as possible while his melee buddies actually hit you. or 2. The guy who knows how to chain combo 30 spells in a row to disintigrate you.
@@t.b.cont. An example of someone who is a pro at invading and has been doing this for the last 10 years or so. The only way to fight them is to become pro at PVP yourself which is a time consuming journey littered with failure and frustration (I would assume). Those who would rather spend their limited play time on exploring and PVE have no chance or interest in catching up so they will never stand a chance against such an invader - hence the hate.
Holy shit.. this is factual information.. claims are backed with reasoning, you rant about rusty's weapon tier list and, unlike most other channels with all the aforementioned qualities, nice audio quality. Also nice voice though that doesn't excuse the constant verbal abuse.
Thanks, your videos made me really consider playing some pvp, next to sending my coop sign to every summoning pool in existance ^^
Before I was afraid of twink builds, now I know that those who use it can't be guaranteed and it's bad because they can't play like everyone else xD 0 spacing, 0 all
Im pretty sure the mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger.
honestly this channel has some major quiet shy vibes and im all here for it lesgo
Well, I play solo and so I don't often get the fun of destroying invaders. But when I'm offering my help, I like to keep the invader busy for the host. The system is quite fun in Elden Ring. I remember the old Dark Souls times, where invasion happens everytime you didn't look like a rotting cheese. Boi these invasions were frustrating, but in Elden Ring they are fun :D
10:22 unless the universe wants to make fun of you and invades you is Chase or Lost armed with double spears or sorcery
This is secretly a guide for "How to become a Twink".
Yes, that’s funny to speak about low level gear at the beginning of a game, having madness seal at level 35😅, no trading was noticed, but even ones! Only honest playthrough. Damn I love that Argentinian guy, but he such a tryhard, but toxic not in a game, but in videos, where he can fuсk around.
Back in Dark Souls, I was always worried about being invaded. Eventually, I started enjoying meeting (and beating) new people. c:
It's not a matter of being "afraid", it's a matter of annoyance and waste of time.
Then why play a souls game at all if dying is "an annoying waste of time"
@@lususnaturae881 Classic invader argument. Dying isn't the problem, being interrupted every 5minutes by some toxic little shit when you just want to play with a friend is.
Like it or not, but there's a reason Seamless Coop is a popular mod for this game.
@@drekgrimm329115 minute timer after every invasion unless you're one of these dorks that Dcs every time. (Which is against TOS btw)
I just cannot understand those people that crticize PvP because they never take the time to level vigor. My brother in the Elden Beast, without it you'll have a bad time even trying to complete the game.
"Why is this mob 1 shotting me?!!!" 😂
As horrifying as the scary red men are I still don't understand why so many people need help, They are nothing compared to the power of duel bleed nagakibas.
Elden Ring has the most wide moveset for weapons compared to previous games, yet i rarely see anybody doing something apart from poking, running and jumping attacks. I dunno what's worse, this or classic R1 spam
Personally, I’ve never been invaded just invaded others
I go find them! I dont PvP in Elden Ring, but ive played enough pvp that i dont let it bother me. Usually, its a nice respite from whatever else Im doing. Sometimes its really funny and friendly and its kinda like 'oh hey! Another player! All right, lets do this!'
And at worst, its all hell breaks loose BUUUT its still fun!
The bad red man is just another gamer looking for awesome experiences.
"very skilled"
Uses only JeeNine clip that doesn't involve him running away for half an hour while his talisman regens.
I never thought people don't lvl Vigor when starting because when I started, Vigor was my main state to lvl because I liked big health bar and surviving more than one attack and it just seemed like common sense.
Thank you very much, I like your content and the information you give.
With how ER vertical is, I miss old "Force", veterans will understand 😂
Thanks for giving actual advice on this. I always try to follow it but my friend who I help in the game just tries to block the invaders attack
I fight honorably nowadays though I use to sprint to the boss doors when I was a noob.
Well, everyone git gud, if they must
The mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger. Almost went for the Bloody Helice guess, but then remembered blocking with it on occasion and it's guard couldn't be that bad haha.
the weapon is the curled finger. I'd recognize those stats anywhere, perfect mach for albanuric mask pvp
OnlyWaifu doing Godrick’s job out there for us ❤ keep up with the amazing uploads 😊
Well, I appreciate all the actual useful tips for dealing with invaders, but I still would rather just use the co-op mod and avoid them entirely. Thanks anyway though AI Ranni.
On a serious note though, 10:28 I'm putting my money on the giant ringed finger flicker
With a flamberge occult in the off hand and zweihander bleed with stomp sweep in the other hand. I don't run I face the invader head. "Let there be close quarter combat, Tarnished!"
as someone who has never experienced an invasion, this sure was helpful
10:26 aaaand that's how wars are started 😂😂😂
How does this channel not have a million subscribers???
Initially I was afraid of them but eventually through patience and a couple of boss fights I found them trivial.
And always remember kids, pure int builds are not viable in any kind of PVP.