Honegger - Pacific 231
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2008
- In 1923, steam locomotives, the height of modern technology, were fast and exciting. Although airplanes were newer, and automobiles and roads were quickly improving, steam was still the prime mover of high-speed transport. The excitement of seeing a huge working locomotive flash by spewing steam, smoke and cinders is hard to describe. Their eerie whistles were at once frightening and exhilarating. Trains were a symbol of technology improving people's lives, of the hope for an exciting new future. This is especially poignant so soon after World War I, where technology was used to create previously unimagined horrors. The Music: The 1923 Mouvement Symphonique "Pacific 231" of Arthur Honegger is the driving force behind this video. The video's visual elements are collected from many sources, and are added to the music so that those who've never experienced the sheer power and awesome speed of steam might have some notion of what the composer saw.
Videos like that are the reason that I still like to visit UA-cam and that I don't lose hope in mankind.
Je trouve que cette musique se caractérise par une apothéose de sons majestueux et je ne peut qu'ajouter un sentiment de satisfaction extrême en voyant l'attention avec laquelle cette vidéo fut créée !
Oh mon Dieu ! Quel bonheur intense ! Je ne m'en remettrai jamais ! Ces images en noir et blanc (et parfois en couleur !) sont d'une pureté incomparable sont tout à fait jouissantes.
Et cette musique ! Ces dissonances ! Ces sons stridents ! C'est tout bonnement extraordinaire ! Voir tous ces trains d'antan me bouleverse !
Continue, jeune Padawan.
Mon Dieu !!!
Jamais une telle musique ne m'avais procuré une telle émotion .
Vous avez réaliser un travail splendide pour cette vidéo .
Félicitations .
Fascinating music!!! You can really sense the driving force in the music - very organic and describing - just like a natural extension of the man's feelings.
Very fascinating!!!
Well chosen clips.
Wonderful
these machines are so alive, Im not surprised why someone would love them enough to write music like this about them.
Educational!
Très belle vidéo !
the best video in youtube
I missed the steam locomotive, love the whistle sound.
คิดถึงรถไฟ..อยากดึงหวูด..ปู๊น ปู๊น
How nice! Thank you so much!
thank you for the nice movie of Pacific 231 !
Excellent, thanks for sharing this
Oui, votre français est tout à fait correct, je dois avouer. D'ailleurs, je voudrais ajouter que je trouve Arthur Honegger d'une magnificence à toutes épreuves et je suis grandement ému par ses musiques usuelles.
Stupid me! Never thought of it's historical context. But now I can at least imagine the Honegger's feelings expressed by this piece. Thank you for clarifying this for me logo =)
Thank you!
I so LOVE the bassoon part!
Fab piece!
Uuuhhh... que tema copado... El ideal de lo atonal, para mi. O al menos, un género dentro de lo atonal. Es alucinante...
Thank you (Merci)!
grazie--thank you!
Muchas Gracias!
Merci beaucoup--thank you!
well, it's about 100 entry of mine on this video. My son gone completely of his rocker on steam lokomotives. He loves them now so much, that nothing else interests him. see what you have done? Bloody good one, video and music.
cabo de descubrir una joya. Gracias.
Ravel Conc L Hand was one of several commissions for Left hand by Paul Wittgenstein, pianist who lost his R arm in WWI. Years ago, descriptions of this piece said something like "jazz influence," or some such, while to me it sounded very descriptive-e.g. of soldiers marching, contrasting sharply with a theme seemingly of childlike innocence. The whole piece affects me as an expression of disillusionment directly caused by the war. But I hasten to add, because everyone hears different, YMMV!
I got what you meant after I listened those. Except that Ravel's concerto came more cryptic and couldn't get what wanted to do. And why just for left hand? That piece certainly can be played with both hands. What am I missing? (Sorry for my ignorance of this subject and questions, but you are satisfyingly explanatory and I don't get chance like this much :)
Merci beaucoup, Benjent and HugGOT!
ben eseguita!
Stunning ---a better blend of music and trains would be very difficult to find
thanks for the effort
@vitavision A matter of preference. The styles of the two composers are very different, not to mention the train being depicted in the music.
A master piece, though one thing that I don't understand is that If He really loves the trains, why did he make a music about a train's movement, but in a psychologically tense way?
You're welcome! It was a pleasure to make!
Thumbs up for the Scottish train charging uphill!
Beautiful selection jhv48! Thank you! Thanks also to aerugo49 and Musikus54.
Je suis très heureux que vous avez apprécié Pacifique 231! S'il vous plaît également écouter de la musique d'Honegger d'autres - il ya de grandeur de l'entendre! Il est un trésor à la Suisse, la France et du monde! (I am very happy that you enjoyed Pacific 231! Please also listen to other music by Honegger--there is much greatness to hear! He is a treasure to Switzerland, France, and the world!)
Just another perspective. Historical context is key to many pieces for me. Two others from that time: Roussel’s Sym 2 (1921-Roussel was in the French Navy before he was a composer, was an ambulance driver during WWI-long intro of 1st mvt seems like a lament with disbelief at the destruction-further on one could be a reminiscence of the activity of war, & depiction of civilian life away from the Front taking what pleasure they might). Different treatment of WWI: Ravel’s Conc for Left Hand.
Thank you (Danke)! I understand what you meant. This video was made to serve (to be in the service of) the music, rather than to distract from it or compete with it. Glad you enjoyed it!
This video was shown live in a performance of Honegger's Pacific 231 by the Topeka Symphony Orchestra, conducted by John Strickler, on October 24, 2009. The video "A Kansas Impression," also on UA-cam, was made as a result of our visit.
Using footage from many sources, I aimed to directly connect the video with what the music is saying. Honegger's 1923 piece, especially near the end where full speed is reached, is possibly the inspiration for Ravel's 1928 Bolero. Some of the steam engines shown are contemporaneous with the music, some are not. It is interesting to note that the music is a celebration of modern technology, even though written not long after the Great War of 1914-1918 (WWI) (continued)
Thanks so much for your kind comments, brfsk!! I'm pleased also with your Video Response, and hope that viewers will check it out and look at what you're doing!
Thank you! As an aside, our US naming convention counts the wheels on both sides, so the steam engine a European calls a Pacific 2-3-1, we would call a Pacific 4-6-2.
i love how that sentence which is about trains looks like one
Written for Abel Gance's masterpiece film "La Roue" (The Wheel)
@grantham8 , thank you so much! I was very proud to have the Topeka Symphony Orchestra play live to this video in concert last year. What an adventure to travel halfway across the country to see it, and the people were great! If you haven't already, please do a UA-cam search on my name logoxyz where there are several other music videos I've made, maybe you'll find another you'll like. Hope to do at least one more project in 2011.
When i saw thisvideo,there was a taste of burning coal,hot oil and steam on my tongue and in my nose.It really made me shiver! GREAT FEELINGS!!!
@absinth98 it's courageous to cosfess you find it boring, because ther's noting to be proud of. Try to understand it rather, because it's great piece of music and great video too. But if you won't don't worry - someone has to sweap the streets, you don't need to have good taste for it.... But try, try. And give my regards to your teacher, he knows waht's good.
@DjTrafel, Merci beaucoup! Je suis très heureux d'apprendre que vous avez trouvé cet exemple de la musique classique agréable!
Il existe beaucoup de musique classique français qui est extrêmement beau! J'espère que vous allez l'explorer! J'ai écouté beaucoup de la musique de Florent Schmitt et certaines d'entre elles est tout à fait merveilleux. Il est disponible sur UA-cam. Essayez-le!
Je ne sais pas le français, espérons que cela est compréhensible!
Hope the above Google Translate is OK!
(conclusion), in which technology was used to wreak horror. I hear Pacific 231 as a hopeful affirmation of human progress after the war. Related to that, also listen to Honegger's Symphony 2 (1941) and Symphony 3 "Liturgique" (1945-46), both related to the 2nd World War and both of which end in a prayer-like mode, a hope for a better world.
Thank you! Your comment (all these comments) really makes my day! Tomenicus, I have one more Honegger selection here on UA-cam, "Cherry Orchard", which is very different (hope it's not too tame for your son!). Honegger's music has a very wide emotional range! OTOH, my Metropolis series to music of Nemtin (after Scriabin) may be too scary for a 2 year old, better preview it yourself beforehand! Thanks again!
Mais derien monseigneur
@tomenicus Thanks for letting me know! It was a labor of love, but I never intended to be a Pied Piper!
merci pour votre compliment gentil (thanks for your kind compliment!--I used a web-based translator page, hope the French came out OK!)
Interesting...But I prefer Villa Lobos "Little Country Train" ...much more expressive.
I'm sure Futurism must have had some influence on this...
inquietante
really nice! =)
where do the clips come from?
In my video's title, there is a mistake. In quoting the composer on Pacific 2-3-1, I read it as 120 miles per hour, when it was actually 120 kilometers per hour. Therefore, I should have written either 120 kph or 75 mph. I would just correct it on the video and repost, but I don't think there's a way of doing that without discarding the present one and putting up a brand new video...
Hope you enjoyed it! Your comment doesn't show up in English or in Western European-language letters, so I can't read or translate it.
loses a bit of effect when you transition between color and mono.
you should try and make the whole video in mono :)
LIMITED
I am riding on a limited express, one of the crack trains
of the nation.
Hurtling across the prairie into blue haze and dark air
go fifteen all-steel coaches holding a thousand people.
(All the coaches shall be scrap and rust and all the men
and women laughing in the diners and sleepers shall
pass to ashes.)
I ask a man in the smoker where he is going and he
answers: „Omaha.
Carl Sandburg
SISI le tcou tcou ! bis bis la galette!!!
Excusez moi jeunes confrères, je me suis trompé de compte. Je suis Prauofspira...
Je utiliser Google Translate à lire et à écrire en français, donc je dois aussi m'excuser pour la qualité de mon français, mais espérons que c'est compréhensible! Je suis très heureux que vous soyez heureux avec la musique et la vidéo! (I use Google Translate to read and write in French, therefore I must also apologize for the quality of my French language, but hope that it is understandable! I am very happy that you are pleased with the music and the video!)
WWI (1914-1918), used emerging technology to kill lots of people, surely must have caused ambivalence about machinery in people living in 1923. Great good and great evil were made possible by the technological revolution that had been gaining incredible speed throughout the 19th century. And, I still remember as a kid the scary thrill of being near the tracks when a speeding steam locomotive flashed by, its whistle bellowing, with occasional hot cinders and sudden bursts of live steam!