Did none of the casting team think that maybe SK might not be suitable at all for the show based on his plans to become a student in another state immediately afterwards?
@@Stormy575 well,his mannerisms, he's openly sneaky,wasn't trying very very much and well,his family wasn't either. Them Calabar men be like sikiru,they couldn't give 2 fucks!!!
Cole was definitely immature and said a lot of stupid stuff, but he did not deserve all what Zanab said & put him through. She was flat out vindictive at that altar.
That is just Cole's personality. We all have that one friend. I'm not excusing him but he is literally a walking version of being oblivious iand ignorant in what he says and does.Unfortunately only time and expereriences like this will make him more aware of what he needs to change. I do think Zanab's intentions was more calculated and definitely not honest in the reunion. Or maybe her peception was just her perspective taking based on her previous life experiences. She is definitely playing a victim. Regadless, she was not honest and fooled a lot of people. her integrity is in question. Regardless, this is the best thing that happened to both of them. I hope they both learn from this experience.
I think Zanab’s perception is her perception and we can’t take that away from her. I also think the whole cutie incident was her not hearing anything past “ Are you going to eat both of those” Her mind took her back to him saying “Colleen is hot, she’s my physical type” which put her in the head space of him diet shaming her when (based on what was shown anyway) that didn’t seem to be the case.
@@alb5801 yeah she needs therapy because people can’t go through life accusing others of false intentions when it’s all made up in their head. Imagine if everyone was like zanab.. everyone would go around hating everyone becuase that’s their perception 😂
ugh... zanab needs to get off her high horse and acknowledge the faults SHE had in the relationship too... so freaking annoying... I think people would have a little more grace towards her if she owned up to her own faults... but apparently she's too perfect and in her eyes she did no wrong.... I love Raven! She takes ownership of her faults!
In all fairness to Cole with the whole Colleen controversy, Zaneb pressed him with all these questions putting him on the spot, asking how he would rate her and rate other women. And he was just honest. If you can't handle the answer then don't ask the question.
He was damned regardless of his answer. Either she wasn’t going to believe it if he flattered her or vilified, if he answered, honestly. Plus, it was her mistake for not remembering when he reminded her, in the pods, but he doesn’t traditionally go for girls like her. It’s unfair to have somebody expect their partner, and I have that played factor for a little bit.
The problem is that any answer was the wrong answer, was a trap BUT ( knowing her type) if Cole would have out the other woman down and that segment was sired it would have been a huge win for her ego.
She asked him a loosing question. I matter how he answered she would’ve either thought he was lying or be pissed about his truth. She did that waaaayyyy too often to him as well.
I completely agree but at the same time you don’t tell your fiancée that another woman is better looking than her. You just don’t say that. I think they both made mistakes in that conversation
@@kameryn2918 Fair enough, but you have to remember that this is not a normal engagement/relationship and they quite literally just met. Then again, I can understand where you're coming from because I'm sure some women genuinely just want to be lied to and that's why they ask that question in the first place. Although I think in her case with her being as insecure as she was I don't think it would have mattered either way. She would not have believed him if he had gone that route. They were doomed from the start 😆
Zanab started showing her insecurities BEFORE the Colleen situation, on the first morning BEFORE they met the couples. She’s incredibly insecure and a MANIPULATIVE LIAR. The sad part is that she believes her own lies.
Yes! I was shocked by her actions the whole time. Cole might not say things great everytime but you could tell he never once meant anything negative about it. She was SO fkn mean from the jump! Always nitpicking, always defensive, always aggressive and condescending!
100% holy sh*t how infuriating! And poor Cole is wrecked because he can't begin to understand the depths of her insecurities, which stretch way beyond his current realm of comprehension as a significantly younger white man. I hope he is in therapy because this sh*t was so foul.
When someone shows you who they are believe them. Bartise showed Nancy who he was from the word go, it's amazing that she blatantly ignored all the red flags.
@@FrankYammy wow, still won? Nancy was just a lady looking for love, she didn't deserve that kind of treatment; however I have to agree that her picker ticker is totally off.
Zenab did Cole so dirty, I'm so glad they showed the "cuties" clip. Still disgusting seeing all the ladies gang up on Cole on the Reunion show, just repeating what they heard from Zenab. And on top of that, doubling down afterwards.
@@ShoppersL I will be the first to admit that there are many issues with Zanab but people really really need to stop throwing this Amber Heard comparison around. Society finds one major thing to latch onto and they start applying it to literally everything...
All the ladies including Brennan. Somehow, he came off like a mean girl just like the rest of them. Starting to act just like his wife. I liked them so much until I noticed the change in them both 😷
Zanab was condescending and the way she did him im the altar was just low and uncalled for I wanted to be in her side but no girl that’s not the way to go
You are right to feel that way toward her! Just because she's a woman, doesn't mean she's not a crap person. There are terrible men and terrible women and good men and good women. I agree with you completely. When Cole defended her, I knew she was the abuser.
Zanab was the true problem in that relationship. Insecure and negative all the time. She belittled him, not the other way around. He totally gaslit him at the reunion. She reminds me of prissy girls in high school who turn their noses up at everyone in the hall, thinking they're better than everyone else.
@@GlynisMarthinussen. Right!? She has that uncomfortable..I’m being held hostage look on her face and his behavior during the show petty jealousy…ugh. Somebody save that girl
When I first saw Zanab I thought. Wow she‘s the most beautiful one. Everything about her is perfect! Sadly, she can‘t see that fully herself and went into destructive mode. She could do so much more out of life. Still believe there can be someone kind under all those piles of pain and loss of confidence. 🙏🏻
She has a resting bitching face. As I woman U tend to avoid people with such sour apparence because my experience thought me that nothing good comes from interacting with them.
Zanab is horrible! She reminds me of Jessica from season one but she thinks she’s Deepti. She’s toxic and horrible and, in my opinion, way more immature than Cole for not being able to own up to her own mistakes and her actions. She’s oblivious to herself and how she single-handedly destroyed HIS self esteem.
You are so right. 🥺 poor Cole is probably gonna have some trust issues after what she did to him at that altar. I think he has way more potential to grow compared to her.
I love this show, especially this season. I was hooked on it. I thought Bartise didn't deserve Nancy at all. I thought Cole was treated unfairly. Zanab was going around telling people things he supposedly said off camera, but there's never evidence of it and it made everyone hate him. Certainly on camera he came across to me as sweet, genuine and fun-loving, and she just nagged and nagged and put him down the whole time. It really annoyed me.
Exactly why I was puzzled by why Cole even loved/wanted to marry Zenab?! She was constantly belittling and annoyed by him. What a case study in Psychology lol
@@smartmarketing173 you could see even as he walked up to the altar he looked like he was going to his death. That's not how anyone should feel on their wedding day.
I do agree with this statemnnt mostly but lets not forget about the colleen interaction at the pool or the bipolar question. Zanab is no saint and I agree with everything you said. She is not relationship material. I do think Cole dodged a bullet but he definitely needs to mature and choose his words wisely.
@@14720509 definitely, and I think he will in a few more years and when the right girl comes along. But she really painted him as this verbally and emotionally abusive villain, when that wasn't the case at all. I would say she was even more abusive than he was in how she just put him down constantly and made him feel small. The problem was when she went to everyone telling them things about him, either blowing them way out of proportion or outright lying to garner sympathy and make them all hate him. That was really crossing the line I think.
Cole was immature and clueless at some points but after watching the cuties scene Zanab has definitely lied about some of the things or at least giving them a whole different meaning than what Cole actually said
Facts! I honestly couldn’t stand Zanab and all the girls seem to enable her. She was ALWAYS looking for something wrong with Cole and never owned up to anything she did or said, only talks about what cole said. And then what she did at the altar 🫣 she needs help
@@simplylexi740 I also thought Zanab was being harsh to Cole during the whole season, I understand that he literally said that he found other women more attractive but he apologized for what he did and seemed genuinely remorseful while Zanab didn't really seem remorseful about what she had said to Cole
Zanab said she went into the wedding thinking she might still say yes then she gave a rehearsed mean spirited speech. Cole was childish and said some mean things but Zanab needed to work on herself she brought so much negativity to the relationship and had zero self confidence to begin with
You’re so right. It’s ok to say mean things and be inconsiderate and have wandering eyes in the relationship. As long as the person you’re engaged to has low self esteem
@@Wifeyedition you know Zay said Cole was the reason for her low self esteem, right? Pretty sure that's what Anna was referencing to when she mentioned that she had "low self esteem anyway". Besides, I wouldn't put full blame on Cole for "wandering eyes". She was poking and prodding and didn't like his honest answer. She even said she was the one asking him the questions about it, he didn't just randomly spew it. He was a little too blunt about it for her, which is fine for them both. She needs careful wording and he needs someone who isn't easily offended. It just means they don't belong together. Cole shouldn't have said the bipolar thing. Even if it was a genuine thought, he shouldn't have asked. As for Zay, she knew she was going to make that speech (obvious when her stepmom tells her to speak her truth at the altar), she knew she was going to say that mean stuff anyway, and then makes herself out to be a verbal abuse victim. So the sarcasm wasn't needed. Zay wasn't an angel. Neither were
He said in an interview that Zanab was constantly saying things like "I bet you think I am bipolar" and then when he finally asked, the team only left his question after editing, not all the comments leading up to that moment. At the end of the day, these "reality" shows are so edited that we will probably never know the full context of some of the things said. Sometimes, the splice is so seamless that you can't tell it was even edited to cut out seconds, sometimes even minutes. It's obvious Cole was meant to be the bad guy but it always takes 2 to tango. Zanab wants to be the strong victim now but, girl, you can't have both 😅 She was insecure since the moment she laid eyes on him and constantly asked questions meant to reaffirm her insecurities. It's a sad case study and we should learn from this.
Zanab is dillusional AF and needs to heal so she doesn't project anything negative on someone else. Cole is childlike at times but he DESERVES THE WORLD!
I don't get how Zanab still isn't even a little bit self aware even after seeing everything. I was totally on her side until the wedding day then I just felt bad for Cole
I honestly didn’t understand why SK would go on a show, propose to a woman sight unseen after seriously considering her for 10 days and then do graduate school in a whole other state. I’m glad he said no but I honestly don’t think he thought it through the first time. Like how did he think he was going to manage grad school and a whole new marriage to someone he barely knows in another state. Grad school is stressful as it is. And the way her lifestyle was and what she wanted from the gate wasn’t going to mesh.
@@Jane-vw5om either way it would have crumbled. Once she started being all Erica Jane and listing all her expenses: $500 hair, makeup, clothes, etc. I knew there was no way he would be able to please her.
I don't think Raven was attracted to SK or anybody on the show. I think when she didn't find what she wanted in the Pods, she had to pretend to be interested in someone to stay on the show. SK was the only "Story line" left.
Zanabob was so mean to Cole all along and Cole should be so glad they never got married to her. She totally disrespected him and I think he unconsciously got angry. I’m not sure why everyone was on her side and didn’t call her to task. She never wants anyone in her space. Cole needs someone younger because he is immature.
It’s great that Nancy allowed Bartise to say his true feelings before marriage. So what was she thinking saying “ yes” when it would never be forgotten
I did not get the feeling that Raven was physically attracted to SK, also her friends were very rude and insulting to him at the brunch. She's a beautiful woman and i wish them both all the best.
It feels like Zanab came into the experience with a narrative that she's been subjected to (past trauma or experiences that contributed to her lack of self esteem and self worth). I think she plays victim and/or has a victim mentality because of it. Not to minimize what Cole did, but I think without knowing better, he basically bit the bait and enabled the continuation of this narrative that Zanab had about her position (being not enough) in the world (specifically romance and love). Cole is a guise of a deeper issue that Zanab has within herself.
She hardly talked about it in my opinion. I feel as if it was about the Pilates she would’ve had a different relationship with SK when she was one of the ones who seemed so so genuine in how her feelings grew naturally for this person and was upfront about it.
Now that I’m into fitness a little, I understand raven doing her workouts while Bartise was talking. My body really hurts when I’m not moving frequently and it helps me concentrate. So I get her now. I also have a bad hip LMAO. And that process was probably so emotionally intense that exercise prolly helped her process. And yea Zanab I think did a lot in the name of “girl power” or whatever idk. But how can you let a MAN or ANYONE ruin your self esteem? Losing her parents and not having her sister there probably just had her feeling so crazy. Idk. Hope she gets help. Zanab also was so intense and looked like such a serious person.
I felt like he was gentlemanly about it and that it was the right decision. She wasn’t ready for him moving away and I totally get that, but he mentioned he’d rather lose her now than for her to be unhappy later and not being able to make it work. He’s genuinely a nice guy so even she said it must have been hard for him to even do that.
is Zanab still going with the "poor me, feel sorry for me" act? Girl grow up! the boy's 25 and you're 31. If you don't think he was mature enough (which he wasn't) you could've just left, but NOOO you wanted more than 15 min of fame and dragged it on to collect some more victim brownie points thinking you're some kind of hero. How did none of the cast call her on her bullshit when the whole world did?
I think the women are just letting her run with her lies because they made friends with her early on. This is how narcissists get away with their BS. She needs to show accountability. They should do a second reunion. 😂
Cole is too kind regarding Z. She is high maintenance with low self esteem. If Cole was an older wiser man, he would have told Z she was a 10. But, she walked right in to it, expecting him to lift her up from how badly she feels about herself. I think the bipolar question was legit and not an insult.
Bartise thinks entirely too much of himself. Both women were beautiful and he is not attractive to every woman that he may be attracted to. He’s shallow and is also immature and doesn’t get it. She’s amazing and I hope she finds the right person for her to build an empire with.
I see so much raking of Zanab over the coals (which I don't disagree with), but how come no one talks about how conceited arrogant and self-absorbed Bartise was? He is not nearly as attractive and great a catch as he seems to think he is. What embarrassed him watching the playback wasn't how over-inflated his ego was, it was how 'brutally honest' it was. Oy 🤦♀️
I think it's because Zanab refused to acknowledge any of her mistakes and really painted Cole to be the bad guy which is quite disturbing. With Bartise, I totally agree with what you say but I don't think it triggers people as much because he had a touch more humility than Zanab in terms of his actions and his and Nancy's situation was different.
I would have asked her if she was bipolar too! She is always finding issues with everything. Always had a problem but at the same time, she would say "Cole is a wonderful person". Gurl BYYE👋🏽
Ikr!!! I still DO NOT understand why they didn’t call him out on all the things he did and said, especially to Nancy’s family, like he was extremely disrespectful
The words "I love you" has been thrown around so much on this show, but the actions and outcome belie those words. They are just meaningless for most. Meaningful for just a few!!!!
Good for Zay glad she did not settle for that abusive behavior...what she said was spot on ...first pretty girl he saw derailed him so much....he would not have been committed and faithful
She was intent on derailing it herself, she asked him to rate her in comparison to Colleen, why do that when you know you're insecure? Cole definitely did things wrong but Zanab owns up to NOTHING that she's done wrong. It's so wrong how she behaves. And she continues her sanctimonious tone all the time. She needs to grow up and own her own actions. Recommend you search therapist reacts to Zanab and Cole to watch a breakdown if you can't see what a lot of people can see.
It's so cathartic to see that so many others feel the same about Zanab's abusive behavior. She'll go down in the books as being one of the crummiest people on this show. I could barely get through those last few episodes seeing how she turned everyone against Cole.
Everyone defending cole but he wouldn’t have been with her after he saw Colleen if he thought he has a chance nd it felt his interest went down ,yes Zay nagging was horrible nd she had low self steam but I dnt get how he was ready for marriage I dnt believe him
1:50 So Nancy was going to say no on week 2 and then Bartise change how he was treating Nancy... Something tells me it was because Bartise didn't want to get off the show so early and he played Nancy all the way to the altar.
Xanax was insecure without him and is not as mature as she tries to give off. She’s so unlikable. If the other girl didn’t find her match - the one he’s attracted to, I believe they would have made a great match. He needs someone mature but fun loving and lighthearted.
Zanab wanted to get her moment (at the alter) and played victim all the time. Like we get it, you’re an orphan yet you’re blessed with a stepmother that’s still by your side. Ungrateful much?
Agree, and Zanab brings others into her crap, like Alexa, who believes her gross interpretations. Batiste is just as bad. Lies all the time to others and himself.
I honestly don't need to finish season 3 to know bartise is a walking red flag. That's why raven said no and Nancy decided to be blind and leave andrew who is absolutely perfect like
I'm trying to understand what makes Andrew trash because he was trying to cover up his crying. That's why it's so hard for men to share and show their true feelings, because some women are quickly judgmental. Let that man cry in peace. Clearly, he liked Nancy and he sad that he wasn't chosen. Bartise wasn't cool, calm, and collected... And you see where that got her. Smh
Zenab hates and pick on Cole, then says she loves him.went to the Alter and thank God for finding a maye.then deride Cole...She is and has shown signs of being Bipolar. Bipolar means two and she hates and love Cole at the same time.....mind blowing witch.
I don’t know how some people don’t see how Cole was at fault he went to talk to Colleen while they are engaged,while Zanab was cooking he came out shooting at her while playing like seriously am also young like him but I know there is time for everything then he came and ask her if she is Bipolar any girl will be really upset am happy Zanab didn’t marry him because even his family didn’t want to see her until after married what is that?I think it is good if Cole finds a woman who will accept his behaviour and be hapo with him , Zanab will find also someone who will appreciate her
I had to pause after the beginning of the 1st after the altar episode. Zanab's skewed POV and lack of accountability is disgusting. I can't believe they sat around as a group and continue to talk crap about Cole. He wasn't my fave but to act like he was cruel is a clear LIE
Zanab has her reasons but at the reunion She was like "i would have this experiênce again if it was with you....because you are there...." What?? Girl wants to play victim then contradition herself..
Zanab disgusting in the reunion. "i forgave you" he didnt do anything wrong. She says he treated her bad, but the only bad i saw was her treating him bad
Did people seriously not hear the racist comments Cole made about Zanab? His comments about her physical appearance were foul. And he should receive the same hate that she received.
Who pays for those garments and the ceremonies? The show?Truly, for most people, they would not go through with these marriages if they had to pay for them!!
Yeah and it’s crazy what you overlook because you relate to someone you shouldn’t. Maybe some people aren’t taking attraction into this, but of course it’s your defense to someone’s differing opinion to your own..
Cole like zanab for her personality. Then after realizing how rude she was she become less attractive in his eyes. Cole was my fav, even if he was a little immature at times. Certain women can handle those personalities but zanab definitely not
Who are you kidding raven.. you were never going to say yes. If you were then the producers would have asked you to go first before sk at the alter and say yes to add to the drama. You just want a man to pay half your rent and that’s all you are in it for 😂
“You Single handedly shattered my self confidence”. Girl you did it to yourself 😂
Honestly and it happened once! Once! He started changing ,he honestly tried to make it better and he wanted to make it work.
🤣🤣🤣 So true
She tried so hard to be like that indian girl feom last season 🙄🙄😴
You can’t shatter something that wasn’t there in the first place
she had no self-confidence. Very insecure
Did none of the casting team think that maybe SK might not be suitable at all for the show based on his plans to become a student in another state immediately afterwards?
Or because he was a plain old liar!
Yes! I was wondering why they accepted him if he was moving out of state? That seemed like a stupid decision.
@@iizateba299 why did you think he was a liar?
@@Stormy575 well,his mannerisms, he's openly sneaky,wasn't trying very very much and well,his family wasn't either.
Them Calabar men be like sikiru,they couldn't give 2 fucks!!!
@@iizateba299 sounds like you have had experience with Nigerian men?
Cole was definitely immature and said a lot of stupid stuff, but he did not deserve all what Zanab said & put him through. She was flat out vindictive at that altar.
I completely agree. He definitely has some maturing to do but at least he isn't an evil person like Zan
That is just Cole's personality. We all have that one friend. I'm not excusing him but he is literally a walking version of being oblivious iand ignorant in what he says and does.Unfortunately only time and expereriences like this will make him more aware of what he needs to change. I do think Zanab's intentions was more calculated and definitely not honest in the reunion. Or maybe her peception was just her perspective taking based on her previous life experiences. She is definitely playing a victim. Regadless, she was not honest and fooled a lot of people. her integrity is in question. Regardless, this is the best thing that happened to both of them. I hope they both learn from this experience.
Difference is that he talks before he thinks but she's plain old mean!
I think Zanab’s perception is her perception and we can’t take that away from her. I also think the whole cutie incident was her not hearing anything past “ Are you going to eat both of those” Her mind took her back to him saying “Colleen is hot, she’s my physical type” which put her in the head space of him diet shaming her when (based on what was shown anyway) that didn’t seem to be the case.
@@alb5801 yeah she needs therapy because people can’t go through life accusing others of false intentions when it’s all made up in their head. Imagine if everyone was like zanab.. everyone would go around hating everyone becuase that’s their perception 😂
ugh... zanab needs to get off her high horse and acknowledge the faults SHE had in the relationship too... so freaking annoying... I think people would have a little more grace towards her if she owned up to her own faults... but apparently she's too perfect and in her eyes she did no wrong.... I love Raven! She takes ownership of her faults!
She just tried to be like that indian girl from the last season 🙄😴
@@m.a.1874 when they were filming season 3, season 2 hadn’t aired yet so she didn’t even know who Deepti was so this is just inaccurate to say.
Fr she definitely has this she needs to work on and get help for.
Agreed! She needs more empathy, responsibility and humility.
@@Bri-jy5wu that make sense. I still find her a clown
In all fairness to Cole with the whole Colleen controversy, Zaneb pressed him with all these questions putting him on the spot, asking how he would rate her and rate other women. And he was just honest. If you can't handle the answer then don't ask the question.
He was damned regardless of his answer. Either she wasn’t going to believe it if he flattered her or vilified, if he answered, honestly. Plus, it was her mistake for not remembering when he reminded her, in the pods, but he doesn’t traditionally go for girls like her. It’s unfair to have somebody expect their partner, and I have that played factor for a little bit.
The problem is that any answer was the wrong answer, was a trap BUT ( knowing her type) if Cole would have out the other woman down and that segment was sired it would have been a huge win for her ego.
She asked him a loosing question. I matter how he answered she would’ve either thought he was lying or be pissed about his truth. She did that waaaayyyy too often to him as well.
I completely agree but at the same time you don’t tell your fiancée that another woman is better looking than her. You just don’t say that. I think they both made mistakes in that conversation
@@kameryn2918 Fair enough, but you have to remember that this is not a normal engagement/relationship and they quite literally just met. Then again, I can understand where you're coming from because I'm sure some women genuinely just want to be lied to and that's why they ask that question in the first place. Although I think in her case with her being as insecure as she was I don't think it would have mattered either way. She would not have believed him if he had gone that route. They were doomed from the start 😆
Zanab started showing her insecurities BEFORE the Colleen situation, on the first morning BEFORE they met the couples. She’s incredibly insecure and a MANIPULATIVE LIAR. The sad part is that she believes her own lies.
Facts
Yes! I was shocked by her actions the whole time. Cole might not say things great everytime but you could tell he never once meant anything negative about it. She was SO fkn mean from the jump! Always nitpicking, always defensive, always aggressive and condescending!
100% holy sh*t how infuriating! And poor Cole is wrecked because he can't begin to understand the depths of her insecurities, which stretch way beyond his current realm of comprehension as a significantly younger white man. I hope he is in therapy because this sh*t was so foul.
@@b.africa1348why do you have Africa in your profile name.Deceiver.
Yes! Preach! I wish your comment had more likes bc you are so right!
When someone shows you who they are believe them. Bartise showed Nancy who he was from the word go, it's amazing that she blatantly ignored all the red flags.
@@msovaz77 so true 😂, you could tell from her look.
I like Bartise. There’s a reason Nancy is 31 and single
@@FrankYammy And there's a reason why so many people picked up on Bartise's red flags lol.
@@diamcole he still won, he’s on another netflix show
@@FrankYammy wow, still won? Nancy was just a lady looking for love, she didn't deserve that kind of treatment; however I have to agree that her picker ticker is totally off.
Zenab did Cole so dirty, I'm so glad they showed the "cuties" clip. Still disgusting seeing all the ladies gang up on Cole on the Reunion show, just repeating what they heard from Zenab. And on top of that, doubling down afterwards.
Amber heard she is
@@ShoppersL I will be the first to admit that there are many issues with Zanab but people really really need to stop throwing this Amber Heard comparison around. Society finds one major thing to latch onto and they start applying it to literally everything...
All the ladies including Brennan. Somehow, he came off like a mean girl just like the rest of them. Starting to act just like his wife. I liked them so much until I noticed the change in them both 😷
Zanab was condescending and the way she did him im the altar was just low and uncalled for I wanted to be in her side but no girl that’s not the way to go
Not to hate on a fellow woman but,Zainab was really unfair with her words towards Cole, considering how she treated him and Cole still defended her
Yes, it spells ZAINAB!!!
Not hate if it's true. She's a mess
You are right to feel that way toward her! Just because she's a woman, doesn't mean she's not a crap person. There are terrible men and terrible women and good men and good women. I agree with you completely. When Cole defended her, I knew she was the abuser.
Zanab was the true problem in that relationship. Insecure and negative all the time. She belittled him, not the other way around. He totally gaslit him at the reunion. She reminds me of prissy girls in high school who turn their noses up at everyone in the hall, thinking they're better than everyone else.
I fantasize about cutting Bartise’s hair I hate it so so so much
This comment!!!
Damn what his hair do to you 😢
😂😂
Girl me too
GIRRRLLL IM CRYING 😂😂😂🤣😭😭
Zab had so many issues. I didnt see Cole do anything that warranted such cruel behavior by her...and someone please save Colleen..
Save colleen from what
@@FrankYammy 4 Letters MATT
@@woodmaleygerbier9590 He’s just hurt by a hoes, he’s not gonna hit her!
I also feel like she needs to be saved 🙈
@@GlynisMarthinussen. Right!? She has that uncomfortable..I’m being held hostage look on her face and his behavior during the show petty jealousy…ugh. Somebody save that girl
When I first saw Zanab I thought. Wow she‘s the most beautiful one. Everything about her is perfect! Sadly, she can‘t see that fully herself and went into destructive mode. She could do so much more out of life. Still believe there can be someone kind under all those piles of pain and loss of confidence. 🙏🏻
She has a resting bitching face. As I woman U tend to avoid people with such sour apparence because my experience thought me that nothing good comes from interacting with them.
I know! I honestly thought she was much more beautiful than Colleen. I am sad that Cole didn't reflect that back to her.
Agreed, she is so beautiful and it was sad to see that she didn’t know it
Agree. Sadly, she thinks self confidence comes from others’ opinions of her and her opinion of herself is messed up. Big time!
SK sitting up there like he’s innocent
Wait what did he do lol
Zanab is horrible! She reminds me of Jessica from season one but she thinks she’s Deepti. She’s toxic and horrible and, in my opinion, way more immature than Cole for not being able to own up to her own mistakes and her actions. She’s oblivious to herself and how she single-handedly destroyed HIS self esteem.
Couldn’t agree more!!
She def thought she was deepti lol
You are so right. 🥺 poor Cole is probably gonna have some trust issues after what she did to him at that altar. I think he has way more potential to grow compared to her.
why was there not anything about Colleen?? I'm worried about her, Matt made me so uncomfortable throughout the show.
I hope Zanab realizes she EXAGGERATED the truth!
I love this show, especially this season. I was hooked on it. I thought Bartise didn't deserve Nancy at all. I thought Cole was treated unfairly. Zanab was going around telling people things he supposedly said off camera, but there's never evidence of it and it made everyone hate him. Certainly on camera he came across to me as sweet, genuine and fun-loving, and she just nagged and nagged and put him down the whole time. It really annoyed me.
Exactly why I was puzzled by why Cole even loved/wanted to marry Zenab?! She was constantly belittling and annoyed by him. What a case study in Psychology lol
@@smartmarketing173 you could see even as he walked up to the altar he looked like he was going to his death. That's not how anyone should feel on their wedding day.
I do agree with this statemnnt mostly but lets not forget about the colleen interaction at the pool or the bipolar question. Zanab is no saint and I agree with everything you said. She is not relationship material. I do think Cole dodged a bullet but he definitely needs to mature and choose his words wisely.
@@14720509 definitely, and I think he will in a few more years and when the right girl comes along. But she really painted him as this verbally and emotionally abusive villain, when that wasn't the case at all. I would say she was even more abusive than he was in how she just put him down constantly and made him feel small. The problem was when she went to everyone telling them things about him, either blowing them way out of proportion or outright lying to garner sympathy and make them all hate him. That was really crossing the line I think.
yea ngl, Cole just seemed to be scared of her half the time
Cole was immature and clueless at some points but after watching the cuties scene Zanab has definitely lied about some of the things or at least giving them a whole different meaning than what Cole actually said
She definitely lied a lot but In her mind it’s not lying, she just completely didn’t see her wrongs at all and blamed cole
Facts! I honestly couldn’t stand Zanab and all the girls seem to enable her. She was ALWAYS looking for something wrong with Cole and never owned up to anything she did or said, only talks about what cole said. And then what she did at the altar 🫣 she needs help
@@simplylexi740 I also thought Zanab was being harsh to Cole during the whole season, I understand that he literally said that he found other women more attractive but he apologized for what he did and seemed genuinely remorseful while Zanab didn't really seem remorseful about what she had said to Cole
Totally agree. The cuties scene was exeggarated it honestly wasn't that deep zanab was just looking for problems
Zanab said she went into the wedding thinking she might still say yes then she gave a rehearsed mean spirited speech. Cole was childish and said some mean things but Zanab needed to work on herself she brought so much negativity to the relationship and had zero self confidence to begin with
You’re so right. It’s ok to say mean things and be inconsiderate and have wandering eyes in the relationship. As long as the person you’re engaged to has low self esteem
@@Wifeyedition you know Zay said Cole was the reason for her low self esteem, right? Pretty sure that's what Anna was referencing to when she mentioned that she had "low self esteem anyway".
Besides, I wouldn't put full blame on Cole for "wandering eyes". She was poking and prodding and didn't like his honest answer. She even said she was the one asking him the questions about it, he didn't just randomly spew it. He was a little too blunt about it for her, which is fine for them both. She needs careful wording and he needs someone who isn't easily offended. It just means they don't belong together.
Cole shouldn't have said the bipolar thing. Even if it was a genuine thought, he shouldn't have asked.
As for Zay, she knew she was going to make that speech (obvious when her stepmom tells her to speak her truth at the altar), she knew she was going to say that mean stuff anyway, and then makes herself out to be a verbal abuse victim.
So the sarcasm wasn't needed. Zay wasn't an angel. Neither were
Wow you Caucasians straight up defend your childish toxic behavior
When Cole asked her if she was bipolar i can’t lie, I was thinking that too. He was jus asking a question half of us viewers wanted to know 😭
I didn’t want to know that. You’re probably a bad person
@@Wifeyedition well that's why I said Half. & why would that make me a bad person?
@@her7098 she is bipolar too
@@Wifeyedition ok but she was literally giving him whiplash, nice one second then manipulating and being CRUEL af out of nowhere
He said in an interview that Zanab was constantly saying things like "I bet you think I am bipolar" and then when he finally asked, the team only left his question after editing, not all the comments leading up to that moment.
At the end of the day, these "reality" shows are so edited that we will probably never know the full context of some of the things said. Sometimes, the splice is so seamless that you can't tell it was even edited to cut out seconds, sometimes even minutes. It's obvious Cole was meant to be the bad guy but it always takes 2 to tango. Zanab wants to be the strong victim now but, girl, you can't have both 😅 She was insecure since the moment she laid eyes on him and constantly asked questions meant to reaffirm her insecurities.
It's a sad case study and we should learn from this.
I’m so over zanab like girl take some accountability. She’s was the worst tbh
No she wasn’t.
@@Wifeyedition uhh yea she was
Yep, and we all thought Andrew was gonna take the cake. I couldn't stand Z after her absolute diabolical personality started to front.
@@Wifeyeditionyou just like her💀
Zanab is dillusional AF and needs to heal so she doesn't project anything negative on someone else. Cole is childlike at times but he DESERVES THE WORLD!
Off the topic How does he deserve the world what did he do to deserve that!!
I don't get how Zanab still isn't even a little bit self aware even after seeing everything. I was totally on her side until the wedding day then I just felt bad for Cole
How could you have been on her side after watching her pick on him the entire time
I honestly didn’t understand why SK would go on a show, propose to a woman sight unseen after seriously considering her for 10 days and then do graduate school in a whole other state. I’m glad he said no but I honestly don’t think he thought it through the first time. Like how did he think he was going to manage grad school and a whole new marriage to someone he barely knows in another state. Grad school is stressful as it is. And the way her lifestyle was and what she wanted from the gate wasn’t going to mesh.
Well it could have worked but she demanded that he pay half her rent even if he wasn’t living there. That’s just messed up 😂
@@Jane-vw5om either way it would have crumbled. Once she started being all Erica Jane and listing all her expenses: $500 hair, makeup, clothes, etc. I knew there was no way he would be able to please her.
@@jazzybash1 but granted he’s Nigerian, it’s very normal for the men to take care of their wife’s lifestyle financially.
Zanad thought she would have her Depti moment at the wedding but that wasn’t it because in contrary she is the villain
They hadn’t aired the second season when they went into the pods.
No she’s not
@@Wifeyedition she blamed cole a lot for making her insecure but if u really pay attention she was already really insecure about herself
Are we going to pretend Zanab isn’t a pathological liar 😂.
Exactly! she got away with so much
Came to the comments for raven and SK drama and there’s none 😅
I don't think Raven was attracted to SK or anybody on the show. I think when she didn't find what she wanted in the Pods, she had to pretend to be interested in someone to stay on the show. SK was the only "Story line" left.
SK finally cheated on her
Cole is nice he jus don’t think before he speaks not sometimes but all the time 😭😂
Bartisse didnt deserve to walk away with anybody. Nancy was too good for him.
Zanabob was so mean to Cole all along and Cole should be so glad they never got married to her. She totally disrespected him and I think he unconsciously got angry. I’m not sure why everyone was on her side and didn’t call her to task. She never wants anyone in her space. Cole needs someone younger because he is immature.
I’m sure she has been veeery busy spreading lies and manipulating the others behind Cole’s back. Some people are unfortunately very good at that
Cole and Coleen can be good couple
zanab wasnt mean to cole
It’s great that Nancy allowed Bartise to say his true feelings before marriage. So what was she thinking saying “ yes” when it would never be forgotten
She and Zanab have to see that if you ask for honesty, be prepared to accept it and act accordingly. They were not.
I did not get the feeling that Raven was physically attracted to SK, also her friends were very rude and insulting to him at the brunch. She's a beautiful woman and i wish them both all the best.
Bartises hairstyle 😂😂😂
Lmaaao 😅
It’s a “smoke show” man bun. I bet that’s what he thinks
It just makes me cringe everytime I see it 😣
@@amandlakhumalo4728 so funny .lol
looked good to me.
It feels like Zanab came into the experience with a narrative that she's been subjected to (past trauma or experiences that contributed to her lack of self esteem and self worth). I think she plays victim and/or has a victim mentality because of it. Not to minimize what Cole did, but I think without knowing better, he basically bit the bait and enabled the continuation of this narrative that Zanab had about her position (being not enough) in the world (specifically romance and love). Cole is a guise of a deeper issue that Zanab has within herself.
Absolutely. Nail on the head.
Wow...greatly explained.
Exactly
Hear me out I feel like raven only went on that show to promote her pilates lmao like this was actually smart move.
She hardly talked about it in my opinion. I feel as if it was about the Pilates she would’ve had a different relationship with SK when she was one of the ones who seemed so so genuine in how her feelings grew naturally for this person and was upfront about it.
Now that I’m into fitness a little, I understand raven doing her workouts while Bartise was talking. My body really hurts when I’m not moving frequently and it helps me concentrate. So I get her now. I also have a bad hip LMAO. And that process was probably so emotionally intense that exercise prolly helped her process.
And yea Zanab I think did a lot in the name of “girl power” or whatever idk. But how can you let a MAN or ANYONE ruin your self esteem? Losing her parents and not having her sister there probably just had her feeling so crazy. Idk. Hope she gets help. Zanab also was so intense and looked like such a serious person.
Zanab is a very difficult person to please! She is such a complainer and so rude. Never satisfied, she is so irritating!!!!!
why is nobody dragging SK?!
I felt like he was gentlemanly about it and that it was the right decision. She wasn’t ready for him moving away and I totally get that, but he mentioned he’d rather lose her now than for her to be unhappy later and not being able to make it work. He’s genuinely a nice guy so even she said it must have been hard for him to even do that.
@@RobsWorld News came out that SK was in a relationship with another woman while in the show. I think that is what the op is referring to.
@@yakiepalma8210 Yeah I just found this out, sorry. Lacked info
@@RobsWorld no apologies needed!
SK was on that bsssss…..
The reunion was pure entertainment I can not be the only one
is Zanab still going with the "poor me, feel sorry for me" act? Girl grow up! the boy's 25 and you're 31. If you don't think he was mature enough (which he wasn't) you could've just left, but NOOO you wanted more than 15 min of fame and dragged it on to collect some more victim brownie points thinking you're some kind of hero. How did none of the cast call her on her bullshit when the whole world did?
I think the women are just letting her run with her lies because they made friends with her early on. This is how narcissists get away with their BS. She needs to show accountability. They should do a second reunion. 😂
Cole is too kind regarding Z. She is high maintenance with low self esteem. If Cole was an older wiser man, he would have told Z she was a 10. But, she walked right in to it, expecting him to lift her up from how badly she feels about herself. I think the bipolar question was legit and not an insult.
Bartise thinks entirely too much of himself. Both women were beautiful and he is not attractive to every woman that he may be attracted to. He’s shallow and is also immature and doesn’t get it. She’s amazing and I hope she finds the right person for her to build an empire with.
I see so much raking of Zanab over the coals (which I don't disagree with), but how come no one talks about how conceited arrogant and self-absorbed Bartise was? He is not nearly as attractive and great a catch as he seems to think he is. What embarrassed him watching the playback wasn't how over-inflated his ego was, it was how 'brutally honest' it was. Oy 🤦♀️
I think it's because Zanab refused to acknowledge any of her mistakes and really painted Cole to be the bad guy which is quite disturbing. With Bartise, I totally agree with what you say but I don't think it triggers people as much because he had a touch more humility than Zanab in terms of his actions and his and Nancy's situation was different.
Best actors awards go to: SK, Raven, and Nancy😂 Zanab won Meanest Actor😅😮
Why? Actors?
Zanab is a very insecure and dangerous in a relationship. And the fact that she creates this stories in her mind..
Bartise thinks he’s the hottest man in the world ahhhh
I would have asked her if she was bipolar too! She is always finding issues with everything. Always had a problem but at the same time, she would say "Cole is a wonderful person". Gurl BYYE👋🏽
Bartisse was a huge jerk, but they all ganged up on Cole, who was the most genuine person on the show🤯
Ikr!!! I still DO NOT understand why they didn’t call him out on all the things he did and said, especially to Nancy’s family, like he was extremely disrespectful
The words "I love you" has been thrown around so much on this show, but the actions and outcome belie those words. They are just meaningless for most. Meaningful for just a few!!!!
Many thanks:)
Good for Zay glad she did not settle for that abusive behavior...what she said was spot on ...first pretty girl he saw derailed him so much....he would not have been committed and faithful
She was intent on derailing it herself, she asked him to rate her in comparison to Colleen, why do that when you know you're insecure? Cole definitely did things wrong but Zanab owns up to NOTHING that she's done wrong. It's so wrong how she behaves. And she continues her sanctimonious tone all the time. She needs to grow up and own her own actions.
Recommend you search therapist reacts to Zanab and Cole to watch a breakdown if you can't see what a lot of people can see.
Zanab is so annoying
It's so cathartic to see that so many others feel the same about Zanab's abusive behavior. She'll go down in the books as being one of the crummiest people on this show. I could barely get through those last few episodes seeing how she turned everyone against Cole.
Such a sad season
Zanab has issues.. deep rooted. Cole, you are ok.
Is Matt in a state of permanent suspicion? His eyebrows 😂😂
Everyone defending cole but he wouldn’t have been with her after he saw Colleen if he thought he has a chance nd it felt his interest went down ,yes Zay nagging was horrible nd she had low self steam but I dnt get how he was ready for marriage I dnt believe him
Zanab! Girl, just sit down. Go away
The only thing Cole did wrong was flirt after the engagement. After that, the other lady went batshit crazy and tried to keep playing victim.
Zanab is the worst!
Someone needs to call Zanab, she makes herself the victim sm.🙁
She was going to say no? But then she said yes? 😂😂😂😂 Nancy tested Bartise and then it backfired 😂😂
Zanab didn't have self confidence before she started the show
1:50 So Nancy was going to say no on week 2 and then Bartise change how he was treating Nancy... Something tells me it was because Bartise didn't want to get off the show so early and he played Nancy all the way to the altar.
Zanab is a liar ....Jesus
I don't think Cole is a bad person the zainab made him he was just acting like a child immature
Xanax was insecure without him and is not as mature as she tries to give off. She’s so unlikable. If the other girl didn’t find her match - the one he’s attracted to, I believe they would have made a great match. He needs someone mature but fun loving and lighthearted.
Sound like Nancy
I think Zanab and Nancy are far prettier than Colleen and and Raven. These guys dont make sense
I agree.
Zanab wanted to get her moment (at the alter) and played victim all the time. Like we get it, you’re an orphan yet you’re blessed with a stepmother that’s still by your side. Ungrateful much?
Agree, and Zanab brings others into her crap, like Alexa, who believes her gross interpretations. Batiste is just as bad. Lies all the time to others and himself.
I honestly don't need to finish season 3 to know bartise is a walking red flag. That's why raven said no and Nancy decided to be blind and leave andrew who is absolutely perfect like
Zanab got exposed at the end. 😂
jesus every time zanab speaks i want to turn the tv off
Me too I can't stand
I'm trying to understand what makes Andrew trash because he was trying to cover up his crying. That's why it's so hard for men to share and show their true feelings, because some women are quickly judgmental. Let that man cry in peace. Clearly, he liked Nancy and he sad that he wasn't chosen. Bartise wasn't cool, calm, and collected... And you see where that got her. Smh
I love Alexa’s purple dress
Zenab hates and pick on Cole, then says she loves him.went to the Alter and thank God for finding a maye.then deride Cole...She is and has shown signs of being Bipolar. Bipolar means two and she hates and love Cole at the same time.....mind blowing witch.
Zanab is a classic covert narcissist.
Raven giving me such Kim K. Vibes here
Zanab and these snide comments always. Zanab is evil! I'm not saying Cole is blameless but he got dealt the worst hand
I don’t know how some people don’t see how Cole was at fault he went to talk to Colleen while they are engaged,while Zanab was cooking he came out shooting at her while playing like seriously am also young like him but I know there is time for everything then he came and ask her if she is Bipolar any girl will be really upset am happy Zanab didn’t marry him because even his family didn’t want to see her until after married what is that?I think it is good if Cole finds a woman who will accept his behaviour and be hapo with him , Zanab will find also someone who will appreciate her
Zanab, is so insecure 😂
i cant stand any of them now LOL
Bartiste just isn’t attracted to nancy. Nancy needs to move on
I had to pause after the beginning of the 1st after the altar episode. Zanab's skewed POV and lack of accountability is disgusting. I can't believe they sat around as a group and continue to talk crap about Cole. He wasn't my fave but to act like he was cruel is a clear LIE
I do not see bartise and think he looks good and want to go to him lmfao
Zanab has her reasons but at the reunion She was like "i would have this experiênce again if it was with you....because you are there...." What?? Girl wants to play victim then contradition herself..
Znab is crazy
Zanab disgusting in the reunion. "i forgave you" he didnt do anything wrong. She says he treated her bad, but the only bad i saw was her treating him bad
Did people seriously not hear the racist comments Cole made about Zanab? His comments about her physical appearance were foul. And he should receive the same hate that she received.
Cole ain't perfect, no one is, but anyone on Zanaab's side should go get checked and have a therapist for themselves too ASAP
Who pays for those garments and the ceremonies? The show?Truly, for most people, they would not go through with these marriages if they had to pay for them!!
Zanab is a liar
Mean spirited, need a therapist
Bartise is a player that's all
It’s amazing what people will overlook if somebody has blue eyes.
Yeah and it’s crazy what you overlook because you relate to someone you shouldn’t. Maybe some people aren’t taking attraction into this, but of course it’s your defense to someone’s differing opinion to your own..
@@owethudlamini5259 I’m saying people are racist
I’m over women calling man trash
Cole like zanab for her personality. Then after realizing how rude she was she become less attractive in his eyes. Cole was my fav, even if he was a little immature at times. Certain women can handle those personalities but zanab definitely not
Justice for cole. Zanab should be cancelled
Nancy is so overreact 😂
How !!!
Who are you kidding raven.. you were never going to say yes. If you were then the producers would have asked you to go first before sk at the alter and say yes to add to the drama. You just want a man to pay half your rent and that’s all you are in it for 😂
ur so bitter lol
Yup. A real man will say no. Glad he did! Can you imagine going to grad school and your SO want you to maintain her lifestyle. True African man.
Why would she say no cause hes ugly?