So you're basing your opinion on one make and one type (hybrid) of heat pump water heating system? I wonder what your opinion would be if you'd look at other systems, like the split heat-pump water heating systems from for instance Sanco.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 I know what my opinion is, I'm interested if your opinion would change if you'd look at split system heat-pump water heaters instead of the hybrid one you're basing your opinion on now. FYI, Sanco heat pump water heaters are about 40% more efficient than hybrid water heaters. Nominal heating capacity is 15,400 Btu/h or 4.5kW. Delivers water of 145 to 150°F, works in ambient temps of -26 to 114°F. Electrical connection required is 240V/15A, MCA is 7.2A. Uniform Energy Factor ranges from 3.66 to 3.88 to 3.72 depending on tank size (43, 83 or 119 gallons). First Hour Rating is 69, 121 and 134 gallons respectively. Another big advantage is that the unit containing compressor and fan is outside and only produces a noise level of 37 DbA, so no need to shut it down.
You sir need to get your hands on more brands before making these statements. Bradford is one of the worst heat pump WH … great customer service, bad product. Stiebel Eltron HPWH is a beast, maybe try that before bashing the whole segment. Here in Texas we install quite a bit of them as it also has the added benefit of cooling down the hot garage during summer months.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 add an extra buffer water tank to store hot water made by your heat pump in ONLY heat pump mode,, its stupid cheap to run.. just needs a learning curve
To improve this, ensure that we understand not, all Heatpump water heater are 240v. There are products for heat pump water heaters that plug directly into a 3 prong standard 120v outlet pull. Highly recommend customers that are serious about products look somewhere else cause this video is 2 months old with very limited accuracy on product representation.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 one would assume due to marketshare Bradford White has plenty of time to as calls. Though I would wonder why a professional contractor would need support on a simple water heater? If it leaks it goes back if tge elements don't work replace them.
They are both well-known and good brands. That being said, The attributes for both start to show with Bradford white having a better anode rod and a better way to help reduce sediment build up. Bradford White water heaters come with a comprehensive warranty that is considered to be more generous than the industry standard. A.O Smith is less generous.
The ambient air must be considered in the cost effectiveness of running one of these units. Below 60° capacity starts to diminish rapidly. My 1700sqft open basement will reach a low of near 50° in Jan requires 30% more kw than 70° ambient in summer.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 if you take into consideration the price of natural gas the COP can range from 2-3 not 4 as stated on the DOE literature. With all the extra work involved converting from gas to electric I don't recommend.
Efficiency is the only benefit of a heat pump water heater, as long as the compressor does what it's supposed to do. Otherwise, when any of those components go bad, your unit basically turns into a cheap standard electric tank. The components of this systems are not very reliable. I would only install one of these in my home only as a last resource. They're junk, unfortunately these is the garbage that we'll be forced to use in the near future.
Most of your information is useful. You should mention that if you're replacing an electric water heater than you only pay for the hookup and be system. Saving money.
@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 Wait, like you were messing with me. I just read an article from NBC Bay area, California. It's saying how they're expected to phase out gas furnaces and water heaters by 2030.
using heat pump only its 20% the price of gas and 10% the price of electricity... time it to come on during cheap times, if you run out of water get the bigger tank, if you still run out because it take 5 hours to reheat, buy a buffer tank (jacketed insulated storage tank or use your old water heater and well insulate it and dont attched to gas/electricity and then get a circulating pump) its cheap to make hot water with the heat pump.. so your not losing much if you need to heat more of it. 300 watts to run it in heat pump mode, want more vent it... my computer uses more.., the humm is barely noticable unless your putting in your living room or bedroom.. does your fridge noise bother you that much? then you need to buy an ice box. get into the now, these are the futurewater heaterwater heater
why not put solar panels on the roof that heat water directly instead of electric . you know the old style where solar means hot water. in san diego it should work well. then your heater is a tank.
From the outset, your numbers were crazy! You think pulling a 240V wire to a water heater is going to cost $2K? Where did THAT number come from? Because it is more likely to be $400 total for most situations. So I stopped watching right there.
This is actually pretty bad advice... Lot's of people around the world use heat pump water heaters with no problem. Just look at europe, more and more people each year chose one.
So you're basing your opinion on one make and one type (hybrid) of heat pump water heating system? I wonder what your opinion would be if you'd look at other systems, like the split heat-pump water heating systems from for instance Sanco.
Just Compare BTU's on heat pump. That's how you can accurately compare when using heat pump mode.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 I know what my opinion is, I'm interested if your opinion would change if you'd look at split system heat-pump water heaters instead of the hybrid one you're basing your opinion on now.
FYI, Sanco heat pump water heaters are about 40% more efficient than hybrid water heaters. Nominal heating capacity is 15,400 Btu/h or 4.5kW. Delivers water of 145 to 150°F, works in ambient temps of -26 to 114°F. Electrical connection required is 240V/15A, MCA is 7.2A. Uniform Energy Factor ranges from 3.66 to 3.88 to 3.72 depending on tank size (43, 83 or 119 gallons). First Hour Rating is 69, 121 and 134 gallons respectively.
Another big advantage is that the unit containing compressor and fan is outside and only produces a noise level of 37 DbA, so no need to shut it down.
2k to run a wire from breaker to water heater??? why do you talk about conduit?? is that something california? just use romex 10-2 .
Yeah, no, you can't just run Romex without conduit.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292lol stupid California...that's what romex was literally designed for.
This guys sounds very ignorant and biased.
You sir need to get your hands on more brands before making these statements.
Bradford is one of the worst heat pump WH … great customer service, bad product.
Stiebel Eltron HPWH is a beast, maybe try that before bashing the whole segment.
Here in Texas we install quite a bit of them as it also has the added benefit of cooling down the hot garage during summer months.
They don’t make enough hot water. It’s that simple.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 add an extra buffer water tank to store hot water made by your heat pump in ONLY heat pump mode,, its stupid cheap to run.. just needs a learning curve
There is a filter on the gas water heater. They don't draw 30 amps.
Cool so they put 220 30amp double pole breaker for fun or??
To improve this, ensure that we understand not, all Heatpump water heater are 240v. There are products for heat pump water heaters that plug directly into a 3 prong standard 120v outlet pull. Highly recommend customers that are serious about products look somewhere else cause this video is 2 months old with very limited accuracy on product representation.
Yeah. Those are basically a lawn mower engine in a suburban. Useless.
Many homes will already have an electric water heater and so will also have the 240 volts available.
Why avoiding the world's largest water heater manufacturer, A O Smith?
You went from the 2nd to 3rd.
AO WHO!? They get destroyed by Bradfords contractor support.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 one would assume due to marketshare Bradford White has plenty of time to as calls.
Though I would wonder why a professional contractor would need support on a simple water heater? If it leaks it goes back if tge elements don't work replace them.
They are both well-known and good brands. That being said, The attributes for both start to show with Bradford white having a better anode rod and a better way to help reduce sediment build up. Bradford White water heaters come with a comprehensive warranty that is considered to be more generous than the industry standard. A.O Smith is less generous.
@@2013BoysLigaTeam buy an electric anode . they work well
The ambient air must be considered in the cost effectiveness of running one of these units. Below 60° capacity starts to diminish rapidly. My 1700sqft open basement will reach a low of near 50° in Jan requires 30% more kw than 70° ambient in summer.
Very true point. The hotter it is the more heat goes into the water.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 if you take into consideration the price of natural gas the COP can range from 2-3 not 4 as stated on the DOE literature. With all the extra work involved converting from gas to electric I don't recommend.
vent it outside, and use an ERV
Efficiency is the only benefit of a heat pump water heater, as long as the compressor does what it's supposed to do. Otherwise, when any of those components go bad, your unit basically turns into a cheap standard electric tank. The components of this systems are not very reliable. I would only install one of these in my home only as a last resource. They're junk, unfortunately these is the garbage that we'll be forced to use in the near future.
Don’t forget the flushing tankless every 6 months and that cost.
Most of your information is useful. You should mention that if you're replacing an electric water heater than you only pay for the hookup and be system. Saving money.
But we don't have electric water heaters in California.
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 Really? Wow
@@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292but your video is being watched by people all over the world.
@quickwaterheaterfiltration5292 Wait, like you were messing with me. I just read an article from NBC Bay area, California. It's saying how they're expected to phase out gas furnaces and water heaters by 2030.
Easy choice for me since I already have an electric water heater with 240@30A and need to cool my garage down in HOT TX.
Yep for you it's worth it.
using heat pump only its 20% the price of gas and 10% the price of electricity... time it to come on during cheap times, if you run out of water get the bigger tank, if you still run out because it take 5 hours to reheat, buy a buffer tank (jacketed insulated storage tank or use your old water heater and well insulate it and dont attched to gas/electricity and then get a circulating pump) its cheap to make hot water with the heat pump.. so your not losing much if you need to heat more of it. 300 watts to run it in heat pump mode, want more vent it... my computer uses more.., the humm is barely noticable unless your putting in your living room or bedroom.. does your fridge noise bother you that much? then you need to buy an ice box. get into the now, these are the futurewater heaterwater heater
why not put solar panels on the roof that heat water directly instead of electric . you know the old style where solar means hot water. in san diego it should work well. then your heater is a tank.
cost. Solar water heaters are more expensive.
From the outset, your numbers were crazy! You think pulling a 240V wire to a water heater is going to cost $2K? Where did THAT number come from? Because it is more likely to be $400 total for most situations. So I stopped watching right there.
Since you work for nothing you are welcome to come pull wire all day for $400. Please.
Larry a house in Florida is about 250,000. The cheapest house in California is 850,000. Make sense.
This is actually pretty bad advice...
Lot's of people around the world use heat pump water heaters with no problem.
Just look at europe, more and more people each year chose one.
The USA is in the dark ages with home infrastructure, heat pump hot water systems are so much more efficient.
Yea they are. But no horse power.