*Emergency Situation, Very Near-Miss* Holt Fen Level Crossing, Cambridgeshire

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  • @SuttonOnSea-in-00
    @SuttonOnSea-in-00 3 роки тому +438

    That is not a near miss, that is crossing misuse. The instructions are simple. Open both gates before crossing.

    • @johnathantaylor5913
      @johnathantaylor5913 3 роки тому +34

      Why not both? A near miss caused by a crossing misuse.

    • @Swiftey-wu2qq
      @Swiftey-wu2qq 3 роки тому +5

      Agreed, its laziness

    • @peebee143
      @peebee143 3 роки тому +3

      Bingo!

    • @insylem
      @insylem 3 роки тому +6

      Yup the equivalent of someone at regular crossings rushing through when the gates and lights activate

    • @TheDemocrab
      @TheDemocrab 3 роки тому +11

      This. And on top of that, the car had literally _just_ started moving when the crossing went off.
      Why not just go "Oh shit!", brake and quickly reverse back? Faster than trying to open the other gate.

  • @sdavies45
    @sdavies45 3 роки тому +388

    The sign clearly says open BOTH gates. That was dangerous for everyone involved.

    • @RolandMillward
      @RolandMillward 3 роки тому +7

      Exactly and that’s why!

    • @p.istaker8862
      @p.istaker8862 3 роки тому +10

      Yes. But doing that would have mean't getting out and walking.

    • @RolandMillward
      @RolandMillward 3 роки тому +18

      @@p.istaker8862 yes walking is such hard work for modern humans.

    • @reinerjung1613
      @reinerjung1613 3 роки тому +15

      Also in that situation. Pulling back would also have been an option. There was no car behind him.

    • @deeeeeeeench1209
      @deeeeeeeench1209 3 роки тому

      Shut up you old farts like you've never taken a risk.

  • @theinterestsofalexcimelli9323
    @theinterestsofalexcimelli9323 3 роки тому +285

    I still don’t understand why he didn’t just drive back behind the gate on the other side, rather than risking it and driving across, causing panic 🤨

    • @richardarthur4024
      @richardarthur4024 3 роки тому +34

      Because he hasnt got the IQ to do that

    • @oli8459
      @oli8459 3 роки тому +15

      He drives a van for a living.

    • @georgedowns4034
      @georgedowns4034 3 роки тому +9

      at first the crossing when it was red I could understand as it literally turned red as he drove through but to not reverse out of danger? Yeah he's special

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +19

      @@georgedowns4034 I think maybe you need to educate yourself better about this. There is a sign that clearly states check for green light, then open BOTH gates, then recheck the light and then cross quickly, finally close both gates He failed at the second step because he is clearly too stupid to consider the hazard his vehicle presents parked on a crossing while he faffs around with the second gate that he should have opened BEFORE driving onto the crossing, operated correctly there is no problem with the warning sequence activating as the diver would have a clear exit. Crossings are safe when they are used correctly, the problem is idiots like this who are too lazy (or stupid) to follow the instructions and by that place themselves and rail users & train crews at risk.

    • @CoxallK
      @CoxallK 3 роки тому

      Because the video was faked. Good amount of likes though so fair play to the content provider. He’s won, you muggy viewers are the losers falling for this fake shit.

  • @Qwertysimo_SK
    @Qwertysimo_SK 3 роки тому +107

    Finally, a man who is not just filming an incident and is willing to help. Congratulations, you saved a human life.👍

    • @dieseldragon6756
      @dieseldragon6756 4 місяці тому +1

      More than just one. Could you imagine what would've happened if the Stadler had gone into it? 😱

  • @gregkiteos1936
    @gregkiteos1936 3 роки тому +209

    "They don't give you much time."
    No, but if you (the driver of the vehicle) actually opened both gates before attempting to cross you would have saved yourself so much bother. Common sense is clearly not so common.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +22

      You have plenty of time IF you follow the rules and operate the crossing correctly. Read The signs, they are not there for decorative purposes

    • @insylem
      @insylem 3 роки тому

      But then he would have had to wait for the train

    • @gregkiteos1936
      @gregkiteos1936 3 роки тому

      @@warweezil2802 And the telephones are there to find out from the signaller when the next trains are due.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +2

      @@insylem but on the upside, if he got hit by the train his funeral could be a whole lot sooner than he expected

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +1

      @@gregkiteos1936 technically you don’t need to call the signalling centre unless you are crossing with a large and/or slow moving load or the lights are not functioning, in which case the phone should always be used to allow for trains to be stopped before entering the section where the crossing is sited. Normally the crossing when used according to the clearly signposted steps operates safely without any interaction with the signalling centra.

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 3 роки тому +58

    1. Check that green light shows
    2. Open BOTH gates
    3. Check that green light STILL shows
    4. Cross QUICKLY
    5. Close both gates

    • @MrSapps
      @MrSapps 3 роки тому +14

      1. Ignore lights
      2. Open 1 gate
      3. Ignore red light
      4. Cross slowly and get out and then back in
      5. Get someone else to close the gates

    • @stephenrozario5742
      @stephenrozario5742 Рік тому

      VERY SIMPLE AND EASY CLEAR INSTRUCTIONS TO FOLLOWS.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 Рік тому

      @@stephenrozario5742 whatever you do, don't open only 1 gate, because by the time you've crossed over to the other gate, that light may have gone red and your vehicle will then be in the firing line of whatever's coming at you at about 100mph...

    • @dexterpoindexter3583
      @dexterpoindexter3583 6 місяців тому

      ▪Expand the instructions. ▪Clearly state if you open only the nearest gate, then drive in to the farther gate, you will be trapped in the path of any train coming by.
      ▪An illustration couldn't hurt, if it energises one's emotions without making one ill.
      ▪Then test the new instructions on several dozen villagers, farmers, travelers, and schoolchildren with bicycles, to ensure the message is received with an adequate punch. This ought to be done with any design in any industry if it will affect people other than yourself.
      🇨🇦

  • @georgeroberts25
    @georgeroberts25 3 роки тому +143

    You may have very likely saved the driver’s life.
    Panic can often slow us down and there is no telling whether he would have been able to open the gate and drive off the rails in time had you not helped

    • @highdownmartin
      @highdownmartin 3 роки тому +5

      Sod the driver. That’s a Darwin Award right there. Hitting a car could easily derail the train and kill a lot more people. Upton nevitt springs to mind

    • @alastairfulbrook1285
      @alastairfulbrook1285 3 роки тому +2

      @@highdownmartin The guy was suicidal though in Ufton, a bit different. Most of this is just terminal stupidity.

    • @highdownmartin
      @highdownmartin 3 роки тому +5

      @@alastairfulbrook1285 agree Alastair, hence Darwin Award ref. Occupation and foot crossings are really dangerous for the reason you mentioned. I was a driver 30 years and the scant regard some people gave me bearing down on them at 90 was unbelievable. I can’t walk over a level crossing with the gates up without looking both ways.

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks Рік тому

      ​@@highdownmartini think that with modern train types that's less likely, and that the train would have just snowploughed straight into the van like nothing. The shape of the front of the class 43 has a nasty tendency to launch the train up if it hits something

  • @charliegould5865
    @charliegould5865 3 роки тому +67

    When the alarm sounded why didn’t he just reverse off the track instead of stopping to open the gate? Obviously didn’t read the sign!

    • @mortxiii
      @mortxiii 3 роки тому +17

      Hardly anybody who drives, reads signs anymore, they just want to get from point A to B ASAP -- you're lucky if they look beyond their bonnets half the time.

    • @hythekent
      @hythekent 3 роки тому +1

      @@mortxiii no, you’re wrong.

    • @mortxiii
      @mortxiii 3 роки тому +11

      @@hythekent how is that comment wrong? - do you drive? ... I didn't say "nobody..." I said hardly anybody... a lot of people rely soley on in car information these days and don't read signs!

    • @sarac.3259
      @sarac.3259 3 роки тому +4

      @@mortxiii I don't disagree. The ability - or willingness - to read and obey signs has seemingly diminished. Very easy example: a bus lane near my home with morning and evening restrictions, Mon-Fri: the number of people who cannot process the information even in stop-start traffic. Also, where I live (s.London) a restricted road which says for "emergency vehicles only" but some cars continue to drive thru (the fine may deter them).

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 3 роки тому +2

      @@hythekent nope you're wrong.

  • @AnthonyFurnival
    @AnthonyFurnival 3 роки тому +123

    Good job you were there! I guess the sign that read “open both gates” didn’t apply to him 🙄

    • @nleak92
      @nleak92 3 роки тому +6

      Don't you know rules of the road don't apply to van drivers 🙄

    • @AnthonyFurnival
      @AnthonyFurnival 3 роки тому +10

      @@nleak92 haha very true! I think what tops it off is the cheek when he asks the guy to close the other side for him!

  • @morthren
    @morthren 3 роки тому +17

    How close was that! Really well done on opening the gate and not just standing there. That would have have been a nasty accident with the two trains passing in such quick succession. Well done again! 👍

  • @SouthEastLevelCrossings
    @SouthEastLevelCrossings 3 роки тому +48

    Yikes! I believe you're supposed to open *both* gates and check that the light is *still* green *before* crossing! I witnessed something similar somewhere near me but I wasn't filming at the time.

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +16

      Yeah, would have been much easier if both were opened as it says on the instruction sign. I reckon if I hadn’t have opened that gate for the driver, the train could’ve collided with the van. As they’d have to open the gate, hook it then get back in and shut it.

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +6

      We had an idiot driving a truck loaded with Hay that did this, wrote off his HGV and closed the line for a couple of days, the train that hit him was quite a mess too. He Got a nice driving ban for his troubles

    • @ScotSoundMusic
      @ScotSoundMusic 2 роки тому

      That's what the sign says. Big bold letters as well.

  • @georgeroberts25
    @georgeroberts25 3 роки тому +25

    Well done. There is no guarantee that if he had panicked that he would have had time to open gate and drive off the rails

  • @BoomTrainspots
    @BoomTrainspots 3 роки тому +7

    Whoa, that was scary. Well done for stepping in and saving the day❗️😁

  • @busesinthemidlands
    @busesinthemidlands 3 роки тому +3

    Great video as always mate, you handled it very well I'm sure. Well done :)

  • @HurricaneHusky
    @HurricaneHusky 3 роки тому +2

    can someone from the UK explain to me why they dont have automatic crossing arms? It seems like a very stupid in risky system especially with the trains moving at such high speeds, i understand he didnt follow the signs but would it not be easier and less risky (because most humans lack common sense) to have gates that close and open when the train is coming?

    • @dillshiba9376
      @dillshiba9376 3 роки тому

      On Most crossings there are crossing arms here but its only some older crossings that don't or on a track or closed road that doesn't have arms

    • @NewBuildmini
      @NewBuildmini 2 роки тому +1

      There are lifting barriers, on public road crossings that are busy enough to warrant them. This is a private road crossing with relatively few users, so it wouldn't be economical to have them here.

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 3 роки тому +5

    Wow - some people like to play it really close! Thankfully those lights have quite a long distance between the alarm first sounding, and the train reaching the crossing. Also kudos to yourself for opening the other gate so quickly - if it wasn't for yourself, that car (and all occupants) would have likely been collected by the train.

  • @Yagdrol
    @Yagdrol 3 роки тому +6

    Wow you prevented a serious incident. Those trains were rapid.

  • @JTCrossingsUK
    @JTCrossingsUK 3 роки тому +15

    Omg what a catch that was, you did the right thing there mate, the train would of definitely struck the van if you wouldn’t of reacted like that, incredibly lucky you was there eh, the driver would of not known how to open that gate probably cos he was in a panicky situation. Not only that imagine if that would of been like a minute later, he could of got hit by 2 trains. Well done for what you did mate.

  • @DashCamSheffield
    @DashCamSheffield 3 роки тому +22

    That's a different Level of stupid.....get it? level....
    Probably a wiser idea for you to open the other gate for them as they were opening the other side, but especially when he got back into the van. Doesn't excuse the stupidity of stopping on the tracks. As others have said, report him, as that was dangerous. The safest option when the alarm sounded was to reverse the van, not to open the gate.

  • @jeffeloso
    @jeffeloso Рік тому +2

    Running across a level crossing is in itself dangerous, as there are multiple trip hazards - think - foot caught in the gap, ankle twisted and unable to get foot out of the gap before the next train arrives.

  • @Coltnz1
    @Coltnz1 3 роки тому +62

    It was for people like that van driver that the word “pillock” was created.

    • @davidmansell6461
      @davidmansell6461 3 роки тому +9

      Yes, in block capital letters, with the word "Complete" in front of it!

    • @edwardcoe7293
      @edwardcoe7293 3 роки тому +6

      Sometimes it's the phrase 'imprisoned for causing the deaths of several rail users'. Lucky man.

  • @Ribeirasacra
    @Ribeirasacra 3 роки тому +9

    There are websites which allow you to view this frame by frame. You can then read the registration.
    The driver not even wanting to close the other gate after that mistake.

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +3

      Oh well.

    • @6yjjk
      @6yjjk 3 роки тому +1

      You can do that here, just pause the video and use . and , to step back and forward one frame at a time.

  • @jakeuk4
    @jakeuk4 3 роки тому +7

    well done for reacting so quickly! i personally don't like manual gated crossings as they can cause unnecessary panic but in all fairness if they are used properly then it would be safe for definate.

  • @UKLevelCrossingsChannel
    @UKLevelCrossingsChannel 3 роки тому +186

    Wow, that was pretty stupid. Clearly didn't pay attention to the instruction signs which tell you to open both gates. Well done on reacting quickly and opening the other gate, that could've ended very differently 😬

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +19

      Yeah, was not far off from a crash.

    • @djtwo2
      @djtwo2 3 роки тому +4

      In these modern times, it was obviously too far to walk.

    • @icebolt0864
      @icebolt0864 3 роки тому +7

      @@UKLevelCrossingsTrains a double crash if the second EMU didn't have ample warning. That could've been a nasty mess..

    • @alejandrayalanbowman367
      @alejandrayalanbowman367 3 роки тому +2

      It might be that he didn't understand English

    • @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430
      @kimjongbingbongtingtong4430 2 роки тому

      @@alejandrayalanbowman367 He spoke clear English with his question at 1:07 'are you ok to close the other gate as well?'

  • @EastAngliaLevelCrossingsUK
    @EastAngliaLevelCrossingsUK 7 місяців тому +1

    Nearly been 3 years since this happened. Well done for saving someones life 👍

  • @demonhalo67
    @demonhalo67 3 роки тому +3

    0:52 the van is off the tracks, and the train came at 1:21, leaving just 29 seconds gap, so the train was only probably half a mile away when the van was on the crossing if travelling at 120mph.
    Opening that gate up must have been panic inducing!

    • @SN06BNF
      @SN06BNF Рік тому

      The Class 755 Can Only Go Up To 100MPH

  • @PreNeanderthal
    @PreNeanderthal 3 роки тому +1

    The sort of knobhead who would have baled out and saved himself when he realised he couldn't get the van clear, and killed god knows how many people on the train who had no means of saving themselves. I hope the sign warning of cctv police surveillance wasn't bluff and that he got done for endangering life with a hefty great fine and driving ban (or more).

  • @FlashingRedProductions
    @FlashingRedProductions 3 роки тому +15

    Flipping hell, that was dangerous!! 😬
    Well done for reacting quickly to this situation though - he was lucky enough that you were there to open the other gate for him. Had you not been there to open the gate in the first place, this could’ve ended differently! 😶

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +6

      Yep, he said out of all the times he’s used the crossing it’s never actually activated but I suppose this was his unlucky day.

    • @emdB67
      @emdB67 3 роки тому +6

      A normal person would simply have reversed upon realising their mistake. But then again, I suppose that same normal person would've opened both gates first - like the signs say. lol!

    • @emdB67
      @emdB67 3 роки тому +4

      And if he's a regular user, then definitely should've known better too.

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 3 роки тому

      🤭😬 - ⚰️

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 3 роки тому +1

    What part of “OPEN BOTH GATES” did they not understand!?

  • @darrenwilliams118
    @darrenwilliams118 3 роки тому +11

    Just imagine how many times things like this happen every day and we never know.

    • @bizzarebanana3041
      @bizzarebanana3041 3 роки тому

      Proboably not often

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 5 місяців тому

      Mind you, these crossings are supposed to be such that only authorised users make use of them, and anybody who's visiting or otherwise invited will be informed by the authorised user about the crossing. Of course, that isn't exactly always reasonable to do, and it has been noted that UWC signage hasn't been great.
      Case in point: in the Highway Code, there's only mention that you MUST (legally) follow signs that instruct you to phone before crossing, and in the case of "User-operated gates or barriers", NOT cross when the red light is on, which are legal instructions, but unlike in other places, doesn't do a great job at emphasising the importance of opening BOTH gates (which could be in capitals, other places which use DO or DO NOT do so in places where not following such advice is likely to contravene another law, and here a good case that bolding and capitalising BOTH, and adding a note that trains won't be able to stop for you, is a good idea (as this is enough of a foreseeable risk to have been noted in one Railtrack level crossing video, and appear as a note in the RAIB's user worked crossing class investigation.)

  • @lenmarfox2947
    @lenmarfox2947 3 роки тому +9

    The whole point of these crossings is you open both gates, then drive across, then shut both of them behind you, that was a very dangerous situation but you handled it well 👍

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 3 роки тому +1

    Oh man. Well done with how you dealt with the situation. Subscribed.

  • @juliuseskola1281
    @juliuseskola1281 3 роки тому +2

    That’s just dumb. In my country we have crossings with lights only. The manually operated barriers do the opposite of increasing safety, the only benefit is that people must actually stop before they cross.

    • @NewBuildmini
      @NewBuildmini 2 роки тому

      At least it prevents people from flooring it without even looking.

  • @MRTransportVideos
    @MRTransportVideos 3 роки тому +35

    Just a small comment:
    If they are incapable of understanding something as simple as "open BOTH gates", then maybe they really shouldn't be on the road, so protecting their identity rather than them getting a visit from the Police and MAYBE actually acting less like a prat....

  • @tintriangledriver210
    @tintriangledriver210 3 роки тому +1

    The inherent risk of this type of crossing is the person who does not follow the rules and, probably more importantly, does not understand that trains can't do an emergency stop as we do in cars.
    From what I can find on the map, Holt Fen is a road East out of Little Thetford which shows as a barrier crossing on Google Maps. Anything nearby that could be akin to the video seems to be local access suggests farmer or villager use.
    Given the line speed and closeness of passing trains, it seems to be a crossing looking for an incident.
    One contributor suggested a signalled controlled release - on face of it a good idea but then an extra load on a signaller controlling miles of track.
    Done properly, the driver or person opening gates has to cross the track 5 times - is that safe? Risks all ways.

    • @buseswithsam3280
      @buseswithsam3280 3 роки тому

      That's why it has audible and visual warning lights. It's perfectly safe IF people follow the instructions.

    • @tintriangledriver210
      @tintriangledriver210 3 роки тому

      @@buseswithsam3280 IF ....... and they clearly do not as is demonstrated.
      What is the alternative to make it safer?

  • @terrylear4219
    @terrylear4219 3 роки тому +2

    The Van Driver deserves the Darwin Award.

  • @JimmiG84
    @JimmiG84 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, that looks archaic and dangerous. Here nearly all level crossings have barriers that lower automatically when a train approaches. There are also sensors that detect a car on the tracks and forces the train to stop.

    • @bytesabre
      @bytesabre 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah this kind of crossing is rare and you only find them in the middle of nowhere

    • @dominicbuckley8309
      @dominicbuckley8309 3 роки тому +2

      This type of crossing is found in rural areas, and is principally to stop farm animals getting on the tracks, which automatic barriers will not prevent.

  • @telmas7183
    @telmas7183 3 роки тому +15

    If you have the registration, which I assume you do; a visit from the police should be paid to the driver of this vehicle! If you had not been there, a collision would almost certainly have happened, resulting in a possibly terrible accident!

    • @TheByard
      @TheByard 3 роки тому +2

      I think the driver HAS learnt by his mistake, involving the police and paying a fine will just rub salt into the wound and the only benefit will be the government coffers.

    • @Nathan_A_RF
      @Nathan_A_RF 3 роки тому +16

      No. Letting this driver off when he could have killed so many people on that train is unacceptable.

    • @kennethhume8628
      @kennethhume8628 3 роки тому +8

      @@TheByard , what a stupid comment , it’s hardly surprising that you hide under a pseudonym , dick head !

    • @pineappleroad
      @pineappleroad 3 роки тому +12

      Apparently the British Transport Police were made aware of this incident, and the driver involved got into trouble

    • @ds1868
      @ds1868 3 роки тому +7

      @@pineappleroad yep cctv is present at that crossing so there is clear evidence.

  • @Welgeldiguniekalias
    @Welgeldiguniekalias 3 роки тому +14

    This is a needlessly dangerous crossing. With these silly fences, a driver has to walk across the crossing FOUR TIMES just to drive across once. This is needlessly dangerous for everyone involved. Either leave the barriers out and rely on the warning lights, OR put proper gates in (there's already power for the light so there's also power for the gates), OR just close the crossing for motor traffic. But this is just ridiculous.
    Yes, the driver in the video did it wrong. That does not make the setup less ridiculous.

    • @lawrence18uk
      @lawrence18uk 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Or you could have constructed the gates further from the tracks so you can fit a vehicle safely between the two... Actually the number of crossings required is 5, including driving the vehicle across! 😉

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 3 роки тому +1

      All of the above have been thought of, and have their own downsides:
      "leave the barriers out and rely on the warning lights" - the whole point of the barriers is to force people to stop and actually check that it's safe to cross, the miniature lights being too small to notice from a distance (yes, really!) They also keep animals out, especially important on farms!
      "put proper gates in" - define proper gates? If you mean ones that have power but are controlled by a button/remote control, you get DPD drivers and tractors driving right into the path of a train without checking the lights/phoning for permission and [probably] assuming that "the barriers opened, it must be safe", or seeing the light green before opening, but not noticing they've changed once the gates fully open (see RAIB report 12/2018 and 07/2016). If they become interlocked with the lights (and you actually want to do it safely), that's further cost and complication, that would lead to the only real option being to...
      "just close the crossing for motor traffic" - ...which wouldn't have you very popular when that's the only road to your house (and any bridge may not take into account abnormal loads you may need to get to your farm/house/premises).
      "Or you could have constructed the gates further from the tracks so you can fit a vehicle safely between the two" - that would very likely be more complicated (you'd need to leave your car at least 4 times and walk the length of your car twice)... and that assumes you have a car to start off with, and not a lorry/tractor and trailer/anything that would be too long without getting ridiculous. (See RAIB 13/2009, these ideas are explored there.)
      Worth noting that the report 13/2009 is a class investigation into user worked crossings and acknowledges that you need to make 5 crossings just to get a car across!

    • @Welgeldiguniekalias
      @Welgeldiguniekalias 3 роки тому

      @@fetchstixRHD ​ You can also keep animals off the track with a cattle grid. This is not great for the mobility impaired, but the current setup is equally terrible. Drivers can indeed ignore lights, sirens, and an oncoming train, just like the guy in the video did. At least they wouldn't be stuck in the middle. You could put some obstacles on the road that drivers have to navigate before they can enter the crossing to force them to pay attention. And of course the warning lights should be full size.
      Proper gates in my opinion is not a push button that opens the gate even while a train is crossing. Of course this is confusing. People will assume they are REQUESTING the gates to open, just like with pedestrian lights, not commanding them. The gates should be protected, but don't need to be connected to the signal. You just take the track limit, calculate how long it takes for the fastest train to get to the crossing, add just a few seconds (10 or so) margin, and you know where to put your detector for the crossing. This won't eliminate the risk of a train colliding with a very slow moving vehicle that hasn't checked with the railway if they are clear to cross, but neither do these fences.
      Unless that road is a dead end, they can exit on the other side. Over here, closure of level crossings sometimes does indeed involve some road construction, which can be quite costly.
      Vehicles crossing here must fit between the gates (width) and fit under the overhead wires. If they can fit through here, they'll fit on the bridge. If the bridge can't support their weight, they'll just need to make more trips.
      Agreed that moving the fences is not a solution, but primarily because it invites (car) drivers to stop between the barriers, which is what we are trying to avoid.
      Browsing through the report, they mention a Westex level crossing predictor, which closes the barriers based on the train's ETA, rather than tying in with the signals and stopping traffic for a long time. I think this is a very viable option to control the gates. Looking a bit further into user worked crossings, I understand that you need to phone for permission to cross with a vehicle, which this driver did not do. The instructions on the sign are actually only for pedestrians. Looking into this particular crossing, it appears they have already fixed it: www.google.nl/maps/@52.3600532,0.2521027,3a,75y,109.06h,80.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHi-asMuezpA2BScH99ZE_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 This is indeed just a connection to one house (and some moorings on the river Great Ouse). edit: that actually makes it worse because the guy probably lives there and should by now know how to use the crossing. But hey.

    • @longpier350
      @longpier350 3 роки тому

      Crossings aren’t dangerous, people are

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +1

      Its disappointing that the stupidity, impatience and entitlement of a few morons causes so much of a problem. Fact is all crossings are abused by the same type of people who feel they are too important to follow rules and obey signals. Crossing abuse should carry an automatic 12 month driving ban plus require an extended test to regain a licence, crossing abuse is just a symptom of a greater problem of especially poor driving standards by those offenders.

  • @gtasandman
    @gtasandman 3 роки тому +1

    Can someone explain the point of crossing gates with this style? is it for animals?

    • @codelyokop
      @codelyokop 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, pretty much. Safe when the instructions are followed

    • @kilobyte8321
      @kilobyte8321 3 роки тому

      @@codelyokop You shouldn't have to read a manual to pass over a crossing. Poorly designed, dangerous and stupid.

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 3 роки тому +2

    credit to you for helping the driver, but you should have screamed at the idiot to back off of the tracks…enabling their idiocy like that won’t let them learn. the good news is that you saved him from certain death and messing up two trains on a major train route.

  • @ben60009
    @ben60009 3 роки тому +2

    Does the van not have a reverse gear

  • @Matthewlikestrains
    @Matthewlikestrains 3 місяці тому

    I’m your 600th subscriber btw

  • @LoneSheWolf09
    @LoneSheWolf09 Рік тому +1

    Brains of Britain that driver was.
    Well done for saving the car drivers life and those on board the incoming trains that accident could’ve been disastrous.

  • @g4lna
    @g4lna 3 роки тому +24

    That gated crossing looks like a good candidate to have a lock fitted that can only be released by the signaller, you have to then call the signaller for authority to cross.

    • @andyhollerman4473
      @andyhollerman4473 3 роки тому +2

      Surely network rail would have considered this before the crossing was installed?

    • @pjeaton58
      @pjeaton58 3 роки тому +2

      @@andyhollerman4473 I doubt it !

    • @gregkiteos1936
      @gregkiteos1936 3 роки тому +5

      @@andyhollerman4473 The crossing was probably built decades before Network Rail.

    • @TransitAndTeslas
      @TransitAndTeslas 3 роки тому +2

      Or do what the US does and put automatic crossing arms.

    • @pjeaton58
      @pjeaton58 3 роки тому +1

      @@TransitAndTeslas Cost too much money !!!

  • @reaper.-
    @reaper.- 3 роки тому +3

    Someone has to close those manually every time a train passes by??!

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому

      Anyone using the crossing has to check the signal, open BOTH the gates, check the signal again then drive across returning to close the gates. The Road crosses railway property.

    • @reaper.-
      @reaper.- 3 роки тому +2

      @@warweezil2802 That is so weird! The driver has to get out of his vehicle and open the gates manually??!!! We have automatic barriers wich close automatically every time a train passes. After it's gone they open automatically and the cars can continue. Where do you live?

    • @warweezil2802
      @warweezil2802 3 роки тому +3

      @@reaper.- West Wales near Milford Haven. The line west of Carmarthen has several of these types of crossings, normally on farm access roads where there is little traffic and the cost of automatic barriers isn’t viable. The crossings are safe if used correctly. The automatic crossing at Manorbier has resulted in a couple of prosecutions where a vehicle has ignored the lights etc despite a train approaching., and despite the fact that the service only operates a 2 car train making around 8 return trips a day.Some drivers are too impatient and lack basic common sense.

    • @reaper.-
      @reaper.- 3 роки тому

      @@warweezil2802 allright, thanks :)

  • @andyhill242
    @andyhill242 3 роки тому +3

    Madness, well done you for help resolve the situation.

  • @thewarboysfamily
    @thewarboysfamily 3 роки тому +1

    Hope you sent an uncensored copy to network rail

  • @ajbonmg
    @ajbonmg 3 роки тому +8

    I was unaware such dangerous crossings exist in the UK. How can anyone in authority think this is a good idea? You have to cross the line FIVE TIMES! Four times on foot to open and close both gates, and once driving. And what about the people who, like this driver, don't bother to close the first gate, leaving the line completely open? How many crossings like this are there in the UK? Network Rail should definitely convert them all to automatic barriers.

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 3 роки тому +2

      2814 user worked crossings, in 2007 (1). (I can't seem to get the correct April 2021 numbers from Network Rail's LC spreadsheet (3)!)
      The idea of them being safe is that only authorised users would have the crossing, although in the modern world of home deliveries etc you're very likely to have someone with no idea about how these crossings work needing to use one. To quote the RAIB (2), "It is no longer reasonable (if it ever was) to expect authorised users to provide information to everyone who may approach a private level crossing about how to use it safely.".
      Sources:
      (1) assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/547c904640f0b6024100019f/R132009_090603_UWCs.pdf - RAIB User worked Crossing Report 13/2009
      (2) assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b7ea7abe5274a44bdd0822a/R122018_180823_Frognal_Farm.pdf - RAIB Frognal Farm report 12/2018, para 88 for the quote
      (3) See www.networkrail.co.uk/communities/safety-in-the-community/level-crossing-safety/

    • @theaeroflyexperience2233
      @theaeroflyexperience2233 3 роки тому +3

      It's a waste of money to make automatic crossing in a 1 laned road in a unpopulated area, automatic crossings are found on proper roads with 2 lanes and road markings

    • @codelyokop
      @codelyokop 3 роки тому

      These type of crossing are also to prevent animals from getting on the line, something that automatic barriers wouldn't protect against

    • @kilobyte8321
      @kilobyte8321 3 роки тому

      @@theaeroflyexperience2233 Waste of money? Look at all the infrastructure currently there - signals, gates, land line, tons of signage. A simple automatic gate mechanism looks efficient compared to this poorly thought out mess.

    • @kilobyte8321
      @kilobyte8321 3 роки тому

      @@codelyokop In first world countries animal farms are fenced in so we don't have to worry about them wandering into high speed railway crossings.

  • @ScotSoundMusic
    @ScotSoundMusic 2 роки тому

    The public!
    Despite the provision of red lights, yodalarms and signs with instructions stating that BOTH main gates must be open before a vehicle can cross and BOTH main gates must be closed afterwards (the private crossing user can use the smaller white picket-gates at each side to cross as a pedestrian to carry out this task), this was a near miss caused by user error, on a line where trains travel at 100 miles-per-hour. The crossing is provided with 45 seconds of warning time between the lights switching to red and the arrival of a train at the crossing. The van driver ignored the red light and yodalarms, then continued to cross the railway when the other gate wasn't open, blocking the railway.

  • @mr2gti
    @mr2gti 3 роки тому +42

    Report them for NOT following the obviously written instructions at the crossing. The prat.

    • @annabelholland
      @annabelholland 3 роки тому +1

      Thats why the number olate is hidden to the public

  • @keironriley
    @keironriley 3 роки тому +3

    Please please please ensure you report such incidents to the signaller using the phone provided and make sure to give the details of vehicles involved.

  • @richardsmith2627
    @richardsmith2627 3 роки тому +12

    Never Blur a number plate. The whole point of a number plate is to be visible to all, the number plate belongs to the DVLA and identifies the vehicle its attached to. its the vehicle you own not the plate.

    • @omfgmouse
      @omfgmouse 3 роки тому +7

      The video uploader decided they didn't want to name and shame the driver and I have no problem with that.

    • @edwardsp1916
      @edwardsp1916 3 роки тому +5

      I suggest you do not go on Google Street view then.

    • @trainman665
      @trainman665 3 роки тому +2

      And if he sells the vehicle do we want the next owner getting harassment about something they didn’t do?

    • @trainman665
      @trainman665 3 роки тому

      @Blue What for?

  • @radanju3
    @radanju3 3 роки тому +1

    Signal alarms turns off...
    Reactivates a few seconds later...
    Me: YeahNoFuckThatShit.

  • @kswindlehurst
    @kswindlehurst 3 роки тому +3

    This is why most crossings like this require you to contact the signaller before taking vehicles across because people can’t be trusted

  • @EpicSpeed5222
    @EpicSpeed5222 2 роки тому +1

    Now I know why the crossing are so delayed

  • @caithnessrailrambler2698
    @caithnessrailrambler2698 2 роки тому

    Oh Wow! That was scary to see. Well done camera person for helping him!

  • @mbvideoselection
    @mbvideoselection 3 роки тому +2

    The fact that we still have user-operated level crossings and lights that can change whilst someone is walking between gates is something that in itself shouldn't be allowed these days. There is enough inexpensive technology to stop this kind of situation. Most buildings have motion detectors to set off alarms for about £100 a time... Why not the same on a level crossing? Really they should spend the money on proper, motorised barriers anyway, this is just inexcusable penny pinching, and I hope when Network Rail becomes the "New* British Rail that this sort of practice might get stamped out.

  • @deeeeeeeench1209
    @deeeeeeeench1209 3 роки тому +6

    Well at least the camera guy did something rather than just watch like most people

  • @wichtelchen
    @wichtelchen Рік тому +1

    0:48 license plate not covered for a fraction of a second.

  • @captaingalaxy2832
    @captaingalaxy2832 Місяць тому

    As soon as the warning tone sounds The Train at full line speed is 27 seconds away from the crossing.

  • @SlowLineTrainspotting
    @SlowLineTrainspotting 3 роки тому +3

    Well done on thinking quickly there! Good reminder for the van driver to be a bit safer!

    • @gregkiteos1936
      @gregkiteos1936 3 роки тому +1

      I think he needs to be A LOT safer!

    • @SlowLineTrainspotting
      @SlowLineTrainspotting 3 роки тому +1

      yeah maybe I should rephrase that, that would have been a serious accident if not for his good thinking. Well done again!

  • @i.m.385
    @i.m.385 3 роки тому +2

    Good job buddy :)

  • @przemeksosna980
    @przemeksosna980 3 роки тому

    Why are there even gates? Here in Poland we just have a stop light for when the train is crossing on crossings without barriers.

    • @NewBuildmini
      @NewBuildmini 2 роки тому +1

      It prevents people from flooring it without even looking.

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 5 місяців тому +1

      + likely follows from the historical requirement that railways must be completely fenced in

  • @thecornedbeefcouncil9792
    @thecornedbeefcouncil9792 3 роки тому +1

    So, the first train collides with the van, potentially derailing and causing multiple deaths.
    The second train approaches at speed moments later colliding with the derailed train, causing huge loss of life.
    ....all because some roaster doesn’t know you should open BOTH gates before attempting to cross.
    Could’ve been horrific.

  • @bl7355
    @bl7355 3 роки тому

    And the DVLA have still not made user worked crossings a standard part of the driving test.
    I am a signaller on a line with dozens of them and it never ceases to amaze me how many people phone us up and say they had no idea such crossing exist.

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the DVLA expect all crossings to be controlled by a signaller or to be automatic. And that’s cool that you’re a signaller, what line?

    • @bl7355
      @bl7355 3 роки тому

      @@UKLevelCrossingsTrains ESK. We have 29 UWC including those now up-graded to MSLs.

  • @paulgilman5915
    @paulgilman5915 3 роки тому +10

    Tbh it’s a good job you were there. I’m pretty sure it says open both gates before crossing but this tool doesn’t seem to know that 🤔

  • @thomasnorton2679
    @thomasnorton2679 3 роки тому +2

    never enter a crossing unless you are sure that you're exit is clear

  • @andyknott8148
    @andyknott8148 3 роки тому +3

    Interesting that neither train sounded their horn on approach.

    • @pineappleroad
      @pineappleroad 3 роки тому +4

      As far as i am aware trains aren’t required to sound their horn on approach to a crossing in the UK, athough i think if no warning devices are fitted at the crossing then it is a requirement for the train to sound the horn

    • @andyknott8148
      @andyknott8148 3 роки тому +1

      @@pineappleroad Used to be mandatory at one time with "Whistle" boards either side of the crossing. Certainly at my local road crossing they usually give a blast. I would have thought that foot crossing it would be even more important. Perhaps a real UK driver can help us out.

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +2

      @@andyknott8148 I think this crossing should be closed, or upgraded. Whistleboards are needed.

  • @edwardcoe7293
    @edwardcoe7293 3 роки тому +8

    Wowser - if I was the person filming I'd have told him to wait, and close the other gate himself, so he could see what nearly hit him. Imagine if he'd derailed it into the path of the second train?! Hundreds of deaths.

    • @lawrence18uk
      @lawrence18uk 3 роки тому +3

      Good point. The irony is that the relatively small number of dangerous crossings like this mean that the law now says you can't make any more level crossings - which is really not in people's interest

  • @Bacony_Cakes
    @Bacony_Cakes 3 роки тому +6

    "Numberplate blurred"
    **puts crystal palace-sized red box on the screen**

  • @jameswoods7276
    @jameswoods7276 3 роки тому +2

    And this folks is why most of the world has automatic gates / arms and signals

  • @EinkOLED
    @EinkOLED 3 роки тому +2

    Don't run across the tracks, if you fall and become incapacitated then you'll wake up in heaven.

  • @Ameliathehorselover2
    @Ameliathehorselover2 2 місяці тому

    Glad you took action!

  • @locolovercharlie
    @locolovercharlie 3 роки тому +1

    And this is further evidence as to why network rail are removing as many gated road crossings as possible on our network. Well done for reacting in time.

  • @bencoatesworth7731
    @bencoatesworth7731 3 роки тому +2

    It does say both gates. Guess someone needs to read the instructions more

  • @joinedupjon
    @joinedupjon 3 роки тому +1

    Wonder how often vehicles actually use that correctly?
    I guess a lot of drivers don't like the idea of getting out and walking across when they've got a vehicle there that they could just drive across in. This guy didn't fancy going back again and shutting the first gate.

  • @HelloThisIsRed27Gaming
    @HelloThisIsRed27Gaming Рік тому +1

    He saved the guys life! What a guy!...

  • @MrGrumpygit488
    @MrGrumpygit488 3 роки тому +14

    I bet that wazzock didn't even stop to thank you for saving his life!

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 3 роки тому +2

      Oh but he did have time to stop and ask him to close the other gate for him, you can hear him asking in the background. Thanks for saving my dumb ass now can you do my work for me I guess is all you get from pricks like that.

  • @draconightwalker4964
    @draconightwalker4964 3 роки тому

    i didnt hear that train horn once. thought all trains had to sound horn when approaching a level crossing

  • @smithylee1985
    @smithylee1985 3 роки тому

    With in the first 30sec of the video van staying there on green WHY ??

  • @Rachelvehiclespotting
    @Rachelvehiclespotting 3 роки тому +2

    Definitely a near miss that. Very helpful of u to open gate for the driver

  • @MJFventures
    @MJFventures 3 роки тому +4

    Never mind the signs, common sense says open the gates before driving over!

  • @ilyasergeev8634
    @ilyasergeev8634 2 роки тому

    A better question is why are those gates there in the first place

  • @jontownsend8090
    @jontownsend8090 3 роки тому +2

    This is why all level crossings need to close, too much risk for the railway.
    In some countries they are being replaced by bridges.
    Hopefully the UK curriculum will introduce courses on common sense at some point in the future.

    • @MrSapps
      @MrSapps 3 роки тому

      And then you get the over height HGV/vans crashing into the bridges instead

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin 3 роки тому +3

    So, there is ont only flat earthers to provide us a proof of how deep human stupidity can go...

  • @levelcrossingspotter-lcsra3368
    @levelcrossingspotter-lcsra3368 3 роки тому +2

    What can i say, thats pretty terrifying! thank god noone got hurt...

  • @srk069
    @srk069 3 роки тому +13

    What a complete mellbend, tool and hickdead, “ Are YOU alright to close the other one for ME?” No, Koff.

    • @fetchstixRHD
      @fetchstixRHD 3 роки тому +2

      "Close the other one for you? Bitch, get back on that crossing and stay there, if it weren't for me you'd be deceased" - what I would have to try very hard to resist saying if it were me, certainly!

    • @hamstirrer6882
      @hamstirrer6882 3 роки тому +1

      I agree, but its probably a better idea to let him get off and get that moron as far away from the crossing as possible

  • @AutoUnder
    @AutoUnder 3 роки тому +2

    If you hadn’t have been there, that would’ve ended tragically. Can’t believe somebody would have been so stupid to do such an idiotic thing; hope you sent this to BTP

    • @FlashingRedProductions
      @FlashingRedProductions 3 роки тому +4

      The BTP were made aware of this, as I’ve seen a Twitter post relating to it. The driver has been interviewed about this incident and is guilty for his actions, which I’m glad to hear.

    • @AutoUnder
      @AutoUnder 3 роки тому +2

      @@FlashingRedProductions oh that’s great! Hopefully that will result in less people doing this stupid act

    • @UKLevelCrossingsTrains
      @UKLevelCrossingsTrains  3 роки тому +1

      @@FlashingRedProductions Yeah, I just noticed that lol.

  • @DJC06390
    @DJC06390 3 роки тому

    Doesn't the gate have automatic closing

    • @Ed.E
      @Ed.E 3 роки тому

      These are on very low traffic farm/rural roads where the full barriers are not necessary or economical

    • @kilobyte8321
      @kilobyte8321 3 роки тому

      @@Ed.E One major accident like the one that almost happened here would have paid for that automatic grade crossing many times over. Instead of that signal, gate, land line and signage currently installed they could have put in a simple automatic gate mechanism. Stupid!

    • @Ed.E
      @Ed.E 3 роки тому +1

      @@kilobyte8321 I think you underestimate the cost of hundreds of automatic barriers that don't even prevent livestock from getting on the tracks. And they would still need to install the lights and landline.

  • @MervynPartin
    @MervynPartin 11 місяців тому

    I wouldn't have blurred his number plate. He didn't even go back to close the first gate that he opened, so 2 instances of crossing misuse. Lucky that you were there. He deserved the Darwin Award, but at least you saved the driver of the train and possibly the passengers from injury, which is more important.

  • @stephenrozario5742
    @stephenrozario5742 Рік тому

    Well done 👏 ✔️ 👍 to CAMERAMAN SAVING THE VAN DRIVERS LIFE.

  • @ElectraLevelCrossings
    @ElectraLevelCrossings 3 роки тому +2

    Damn it, almost hit. Lucky you were there. Good thinking

  • @Oli_Guy
    @Oli_Guy Рік тому

    thank you for doing the right thing

  • @jekitabot12
    @jekitabot12 Рік тому

    Thank goodness this didn't end up horribly and kudos to you for acting timely, but at the same time... I feel the driver of the car could have easily reversed back out of the crossing? It seems he's closer to that side. I'm also seeing comments about this railroad saying you are supposed to open both gates BEFORE crossing and do so quickly.. so that as well.

  • @Tairqthephotoman2025
    @Tairqthephotoman2025 3 роки тому

    How much Mph is that

  • @girllikestrainsandaviation9413
    @girllikestrainsandaviation9413 3 роки тому

    Good job on this! Amazing video. I am a railfan youtuber and I wanted to know if I can use your video on a new series im starting where I react to certain videos ?

  • @DeafAnimeDan
    @DeafAnimeDan 3 роки тому +1

    You did a good thiny to do help the driver so well done hero

  • @TheArkamedBat
    @TheArkamedBat 3 роки тому +1

    Open BOTH gates before crossing

  • @JacobsTrainVideos
    @JacobsTrainVideos 3 роки тому +1

    wow! Mustve been very stressful! Atleast all went well!