Things people should understand about this that a lot Ff7 fans get completely wrong. Clouds mind here is scrambled by the Mako experiments done on him and he is basically a vegatable with trauma. Cloud crawls to Zack with sheer willpower and Zacks first words to him is to survive for the both of them, that his honor and dreams are now Clouds and that Cloud is his living legacy. These words help Cloud reconstruct his scrambled thoughts by replacing the trauma with his own memories of Zack, adopting Zacks identity and actions. Some people seem to think Cloud has Zacks personal memories and personality which is false. Instead Cloud uses Zacks words to fix his mind and help him forget his trauma which is why he gets headaches anytime he is reminded of his Trauma in FF7. Cloud does not carry Zacks personal memories or personality but merely adopts his identity as a 1st class Soldier.
Eeeehhhhh sort of. It has been confirmed that Jenova cells allow the sharing of memories and such and back in the original those white flashes when Tifa finds Cloud at the station has been confirmed to be the cells rewriting his memory. The part about Cloud being a vegetable with trauma is 100% accurate but yeah it’s a mix of him repressing the memories and Jenova cells making him mimic Zack far more accurately. (You can actually see this in the Remake with how he sits and some of his mannerisms which are mimicking Zack more than just from observation)
@@sanddry738 being able to connect through Jenova cells does not mean that Zack and Cloud connected through Jenova cells. None of them have this ability either. Cloud mimics the 1st class Soldier of Zacks but is also extremely different in personality and actions. People think Cloud has Zacks memories and personality which is completely wrong.
@@ldarkllrevanl181 he doesn’t have it exactly but he has a bit. It has to do with how Jenova cells can allow the host to mimic and share memories. It isn’t as extreme as Cloud becoming Zack but he definitely mimics and has false memories because of them
They kept it because there is no other ending. The remake is not what people think it is. The living Zack is not as alive as you guys think and the story is not about timelines but altered memories or something similiar. So surviving characters are still actually dead. Do not act surprised if we bump into a Zack and eventually we get the twist that nothing we see happened physically.
@@Cetra29 7 remake is a remake of its history Zack lives in that timeline Sephiroth found a way to go back to the past by using the lifestream (Every meddling with the lifestream triggers a Weapon. The arbiters of fate are this.) Aerith did the same thing to fight against whatever he's planning And the rest we'll have to see in the 2nd game
God the way Cloud says “I’m…your living…legacy” hurts so much. It’s like he is barely comprehending what’s even happening and just repeating what he hears. Cody Christian absolutely nailed this scene and gave Cloud the kind of confused broken emotion that he needed.
I dunno if you guys are on board for an Advent Children game. But if they do. I wanna hear Cody say it with confidence. "That's right. I am your living legacy" and Limit Breaks the FUCK out of Sephiroth!
Yeah i was like 12 if i remembr correctly. It was so fucking sad. And i didnt know anything about FF7. I only played Crisis Core at that time. Right now im enjoying Rebirth. Am 26 now. This Game back then taught me what real pain was.
21:45, this moment still hurts. The way Cloud reaches out to Zack is like he’s representing us, the players trying to prevent Zack’s death. Sadly, it’s inevitable. He gave his life protecting Cloud, so he can live. So he can be the hero he always dreamed to be.
@@HandlesL I know, but the main timeline still happens. Just going by the original story of FF7 before the remake introduced the concept of other timelines.
@@triadibayuseptiaji1620 at the end of remake, cloud and team disrupted the whispers (those shadow ghost) when they defeated the Harbinger. The whispers were supposed to ensure the story of the original ff7 continued to happen. When defeated, a new timeline was created. A timeline where Zack defeats the Shinra army and survives, heading back to midgar with Cloud
Losing the DMW is so sad all the memories that Zack has ,slowly leaving him forever in a battle you can’t win.Even though I knew Zack died I still cried,if only the Turks found him first.Aerith saying “Will I See You Again” just broke me.
They wouldn't have got there in time, SHINRA probably had a way to deter them - since they had opposing MO's. Tseng and Cissnei wanted to keep Cloud and Zack alive, so that he would get the letters from Aerith. Whereas Shinra wanted to kill them because they were pretty much criminals due to Hojo pulling strings to turn them into public enemy no 1
@@fierytigergaming8112 Does not help that the Shinra Troopers under the command of the Turks basically ignored their orders anyway. The Turks literally had no insurance or way to reach Zack.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 man, if only we could ever see some representation in the game, there's too many white people. Maybe make a stereotypical black guy with a gun, except this time make it a good father and somehow make it a lover of nature so it doesn't looks racist that his weapon is just a machine gun. But I know that would never happen.
The only thing cloud had over zack were his friends. Cloud had a lot of people to support him, while zack was mostly alone and all 3 of his friends betrayed him
@@tonertonki sephiroth and angeal, dunno the third one. Genesis is antoganizing him the whole game. Seph betrayed him in Nibelheim and Angeal betrayed him during the capture of Hollander.
Clouds emotions are what give him a plus ultra against people. It's also his greatest weakness too. It either breaks him down and makes him doubt himself (advent children) or gives him the strength to find power he never knew he had (first time he fought sephiroth when he got stabbed and flung sephi into a metal reactor followed by into a pit)
The third one is Luxiere a 2nd class soldier , in the ending he messaged zack , where is his location so he can get promoted I have to mention since you say zack is mostly alone , he got a friend that is always support him , and still wait for him , he even get mentioned in the remake , Kunsel
I love this trope of the hero being defeated but only because they were weakened. Zack normally would never lose to shinryu's army of humans, 1st class were made to be able to solo entire armies. (Which is why sephiroth's weapon is so long, to literally reap as a many as possible). However he just bearly lived against genisis, while degrading is on par with his power, and buffed by the literal gawd of the world. Not to mention the psychological pain he was in, constantly protecting and carrying cloud. His friends, comrades and hero's were all dead (genisis' condition would of been unknown to Zack though). Aerith had finally given up on him after 4 years. Again no way Zack would of lost here, but he wasn't at peak performance and that's what makes it beautiful.
Wrong. 1st Class are not immortal and they are not omnipotent gods. A SOLDIER 1st Class would survive but normally but also would have been tactically retreating. Zack could not retreat at all and had no cover so he was taking damage from all sides. This is because he was protecting Cloud. Also much of the "SOLDIER are gods" stuff comes from the game play mechanics. Bullets and blades are just as effective on them as they are on normal humans when they hit.
This point is further proven by the mission to defeat 1000 shinra soldiers. I never completed it, but if in-game Zack can win, then animation Zack can do even better.
I will never forget Crisis Core. I played it so much back then and yet it never failed to make me shed tears when Zack died. The Price of Freedom truly is steep.
Because it was Cody Christian (Cloud's current VA) who was voicing the scream. In the original Crisis Core, they had Tidus' VA do the scream despite Cloud's VA being Steve Burton
@@fierytigergaming8112wait a minute that means James Arnold Taylor did the scream (assuming they used the English voice actor for the English scream)? Now I'm even more confused why I don't like the original scream because James Arnold Taylor is an S-tier voice actor?
Cody is the perfect voice for Cloud. He nails every aspect of his character, the scream at the end especially. He took something that was kinda goofy in the original and made it so raw.
Also the fact that she knew Zack's passing by sensing his presence and hearing words from the lifestream. Imagine waiting for your loved one for years just to get a first-hand view of them dying the moment you meet them again.
This is yet the only ending of a videogame that completely got me off guard and made me cry a waterfall. Incredible buildup with a very well fleshed out character.
The ending that truly broke me when I played it in the PSP. Yeah I'll never touch this again, even with the amazing reviews. My heart can't take it back then, and it sure as hell can't take it now.
This funny to me because I played Final Fantasy 7 on release and Aeriths death hit my feels. I never played the psp version, in fact the last Final Fantasy I played was the one with Lightning. I stopped buying them because none of them touch 7. 7 is simply put, perfect!
I had been fighting the Shinra army for ~50 minutes before my mom finally looked up how to advance to the ending. The solution was to allow myself to take more damage, and a few rounds of me nearly dying and healing myself with aerial drain later, I finally managed to witness the most heartbreaking scene in my life. I honestly wish I kept going until the end.
What I also like is that the Turks were seemingly in the dark about Zack's location, while most of Shinra prepared an ambush knowing exactly where Zack was going to be. Given how the Turks operate and how good they are (Cissnei immediately found Zack soon after the escape from Nibelheim), there is likely more going on. Personally, I feel that it can be implied that the President, Heidegger, etc. all kept important information from the Turks regarding Zack's location near Midgar because they likely knew or had suspicions that Tseng and everyone were not going to turn over Zack if caught.
I can't believe I have to relive this pain again. My boi Zack deserves so so much more. But I know his sacrifice plays a big big role in the main game and later on. You're always our hero Zack.
@@RIELSG Nah, I said this because his character meant a lot to me and they gave him a very brutal death. But his sacrifice is what made the main game special and what made Advent Children too. The remake is non-canon for me.
can you pls explain to me is the ff7 remake and crisis are differents timelines or what ?? because i didn't undrestand a thing. In ff7 remake why cloud doesn't know aerith but he already met her at crisis can smby explain pls
@@ismailmachhour2910 ff7 reamake itself has different timelines where Zack dies and in another Zack is alive.this is the timeline in crisis core where Zack is dead but in another he is alive
@@ismailmachhour2910 final fantasy 7 remake is essentially a sequel but thats way too much to explain. Just know its a sequel of sorts and is a completely different story to final fantasy 7 original because the party killed fate, anything can happen now
@@ismailmachhour2910 CC and remake are different. Remake is basically a whole different (wrecked) timeline from the original and CC. In the remake anything new can possible happen at any time. CC remaster doesn't change any critical plot so it still sticks to the original timeline.
Some of us knew Zack would die and still tried desperately to find another option where he didn't die. Zack will forever be one of the best FF character
I still love Rick Gomez as Zack Fair, but Caleb Price take on the character isn't all that bad compared to how people making out to be. He definitly improved redoing the "Price of Freedom" scene compared to how it was presented in FF7 Remake.
I feel like Rick Gomez puts so much more passion into Zack in comparison to Caleb's performance. Honestly watch the two and it's clear who really nailed Zack.
imo caleb was really good at post time skip zack ( aka older zack ) which is a good thing because this is the zack we are sticking with from here on in the next parts
Seems like he got a better direction this time on how to do those lines instead of that horrible 'the price of freeDOM is STEEP' and 'come and GET IiIiIiIiT' in the remake.
Wow. I'm glad to know so many other people were moved to tears by this game. Like Cloud I modeled my persona after Zack. The line "Embrace your dreams." Has been my motto ever since playing this game years ago. I accomplished quite a few my dreams. His legacy will live on!
Lol, "The Price of freedom is steep" is one of mine (The other being "Are you finished? It's my turn now. Hope you're fine with that!" from Honkai Impact)
Just finished. *man* This was my first time playing Crisis Core. Already knowing what happens to him before playing the entire game. I was legitimately was like "why isn't my Phoenix down working? Please don't do this. You were this close :("
22:12 very glad Caleb Pierce decided to change the way he delivered this line. To me it was never an issue that the VA’s changed, it was solely about how the line was delivered. In Remake, it almost sounded like Zack was cockily looking forward to dying against the battalion which doesn’t match at all with the tone of the scene. Here, he sounds like someone whose disappointedly aware that he’s about to die but is willing to give his all to protect his friend and see his crush again.
Its a remaster not a remake, nothing changed for Crisis Core. Zack did die. But we already know the Sephiroth in the Remake is the one that experienced already a final death, he manipulates the lifestream to change his fate. Zacks fate is unknown in the remake so far.
This was the first and only game to ever make me cry. Never was a fan FFVII but playing this and becoming a big fan of Zack’s character leading up this hopeless fight was saddening.
They didn't change the ending so that new players can experience Zack's death and understand the significance of his appearance and survival in the remake ending
I remember finishing Crisis Core back on the PSP days, it was the only game so far that made me cry so hard. I've played the OG FFVII prior to this and didn't care for Zack but now, he's one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters ever. Hoping he'll play more roles in the remake
I know damn well I'm not the only one that still cries at the ending even for this remake. But for the first time, I cried with joy when he returned in the original remake. But even after all these years, this scene alone tears me apart
When that DMW got stuck on Aerith, man I was balling tears. I would never forget how hard I took Zack’s death when I played this on the PSP years ago. This was the first PlayStation game I cried to from the death of a character.
With how much I dislike Caleb as Zacks new voice actor you can tell he tried his hardest to deliver the final lines. He delivered the “the price of freedom is steep” line much better in this game than in the Remake
I don't think that's fair to the voice actor and more a result of the voice direction. You can certainly tell that in the recording booth he was likely told to mimic as much of his predecessors performance as closely as possible (even if that funky 2000's voice acting is not as great by today's standards) instead of trying to sound natural. I've heard what caleb can sound like when he's given room to work, so i expect his role in remake trilogy to be a major step up.
I don't know why so many fans are down on our newbie Zack-voice, whose name escapes me at the moment. I think he did a great job. Yes, Rick Gomez is one of a kind, but the new guy did well too. That last scene with Cody was beautiful, the little changes in Zack's voice as he speaks at the end are great, I think.
He really nailed zachs voice here. Sadly I can't agree no matter what on his original debut. I cringed really bad when I heard his squeaky "the price of freedom is steeep" way better now in this wfene
He definitely improved here compared to the Remake. Especially his Price of Freedom line before the final fight. In the original take in FFVIIR it sounded pretty bad. If I were to describe it, in the Remake he sounded like “Ugh, I guess I have to do this” and just very smug, while the original Crisis Core (and now Reunion) actually sounded like Zack was preparing for the inevitable while remaining confident in his beliefs until the end. Caleb Pierce did such a good job with the line in this case.
@@gantashiro978 because this one is a real remake of the 1st one, that's the same game and story. The one of FF7 remake well as you must see there is a lot of thing that wasn't the same as the original, because Sephiroth try to change the destiny (he probably know what will happens so he could be the Sephiroth from Advent Children that manage to came to the past for his purpose) so the Zack on FF7 remake is probably the one that get his destiny change in the timeline remake While the one of this vids is just the normal Zack with his real destiny
@@EdgeyStyle most people are saying that 2 timelines are merging in FF7 R thats why there will probably be 2 buster swords, 2 clouds and 1 zack that is alive
@I Watch Stuffs and I'm very skeptical with Nomura, turning it into Kingdom Hearts b.s. hopefully, I'm proven wrong, but remakes ending made me worry about the next installment.
Finished playing CC Reunion yesterday. The sad part is that I’ve played the OG Crisis Core more than once, I’m more than familiar with the ending, and yet during the final sequence I still fought for my life spamming Potions and Curaga 😭😭
I saw Final Fantasy Advent Children before playing this gem of a game on the PSP. After the game I finally understood who the person was at the ending - being the spirit of Zack. Man do i love this game to death, one of the best stories ever…
I’m going to cry again 😭😭😭 Wrong decision to search the ending for FFVII Crisis Core Reunion. I thought there’ll be a different one compared from the PSP version. Thanks for making me cry, and feel the pain. 😭
I have this game for psp still, always impressed how amazing looks for a portable console and its ending is one of the best in ff saga, also the saddest, love this ff so much.
IMO Caleb's Zack gradually gets better sounding after he gets the new hair & the buster sword. Almost like there's a maturation process for his entire character. Maybe that's the direction they were going for. Pre-buster sword = Young, naive, wet-behind-the-ears With buster sword= More serious sounding, less cheesiness in the delivery Just my two cents
I remember playing this game in PSP. I was very sad for about a week after Zack died. And seeing the remastered version of it and then the ending cinematic when Cloud is above the train then playing FF7 remake after is just beautiful.
There is an important buff to the badassery of Zack Fair’s final stand. They added helicopter wreckage to the battlefield after the time skip, indicating that he had destroyed them, rather than them leaving because they ran out of fuel necessary to reach a suitable landing site as implied in the Crisis Core ending. Even in the FFVII remake, only a single helicopter’s wreckage is visible.
I’ll be honest, I could get used to Caleb Pierce as Zack. I think he’s improved since his debut in Remake. Can’t wait to see how he improves with time.
I never play this game anymore because I don’t want to make him die once again. I couldn’t imagine how many times I had cried after the first time I played that 14 years ago…….just let it rest it peace in my memory now…
I JUST finished this game, and I'm crying. The way they designed the fight against the Shinra infantrymen was genius... it made me feel completely powerless and hopeless, with the limit breaks 'malfunctioning,' and Zack losing his strength. It was brutal seeing the infantrymen shooting him from his point of view. And I'll never hear "The Price of Freedom" the same again. I don't care what people say; Crisis Core is a great game. They way the executed the ending alone makes this game great, in my eyes. The writers had guts to kill off the player character, and they did it right. Sorry is this is jumbled, I'm still collecting my thoughts... 😭
A tip for the new players who didn't know the easiest way to beat genesis here, is get blizzarga change your focus to genesis himself and not the sword, then spam.
I'm here hoping that they implemented the 7R's ending by actually killing everything the Shinra Army can throw at you, because Zack's death was considered destiny and that's broken
Interesting. Although it is pretty clear that remake is a sequel for everything before it, the post credit scene which cloud said "I am cloud, soldier 1st class" told us to continue the story in "Final Fantasy VII" not "Final Fantasy VII Remake"
Anyone else get the impressions that at 34:30, its essentially showing the lifestream pieces of Zack reach Aerith now in the "new" timeline at the spot the original Crisis Core essentially ends at and it's a major point in triggering her awareness that something is in fact off/seems familiar and begins the realization that this is the second coming of events? She would have well noticed his entering the lifestream in the original timeline and i'd imagine re-experiencing such a core trauma is one of the main things tipping her off to having the same "timeline awareness" that Sephiroth has. Factually there are two timelines now and it's also well demonstrated of certain others awareness' of this (Sephiroth indirectly speaks out to the player breaking the 4th wall referencing things wont go the same way this time, Aerith showing... something.... to Marlene as well as RedXIII prompting flashbacks of sorts, etc.) and frankly i'd have to imagine that eventually when we run into Bugenhagen he's going to be aware that something is going on as well....
20:14 I know I’m going to cry later but this scene is one of my favorites it reminds me of advent children I’m glad they added them with this style in the game(talking about the animation not the line)
I just finished this game for the first time last night. I always knew it was a tragic tale, but making the player play through the hopeless battle, truly heartbreaking, a little sadistic on the developer’s end.😢
Told myself I would not cry at the ending since I already knew what to expect, and I was doing well at it until Cloud’s scream at the end 😭 Cody delivered that perfectly
I'm totally new to the series, didn't know anything about these characters a few days ago, and OUCH did Zack's death hit so dang hard. For me, part of what drives it home is how, during the entire game, you don't see the characters ever actually bleed from their injuries, even when Cloud gets skewered by Sephiroth. They don't actually show the injuries. But here at the end, for once, the game cuts to Zack, bleeding profusely from the head, riddled with bullet holes, and lying in a pool of his own blood. It's so jarring and painful to see
Jesus Clouds new scream at the end grew about 37lbs worth of balls. It actually jarred me a moment not knowing what to expect when I beat it xD I still had Clouds old scream in my head then this dude reached into his bowels and ripped them out through his esophagus for that scream.
15 years later, this ending still breaks my heart. Why did they remove Cloud's howling near Zack's body though? This was such a sad and heartbreaking moment, I was surprised they didn't keep this.
@@Cheesepoop damn on my game (on PS5) it's not! I did not even turn the sound of this video on as I thought it was the same for everyone. I probably encountered a glitch then...
Man this game is DOUBLE the pain huh? The pain of reliving Zack's death and the pain of playing through the game hearing Caleb's poor performance as Zack. I'm 100% playing the game in Japanese dub. Hope the modders put Rick's voice in soon.
Bro stop crying already either play the game or don't play it it's actually ridiculous hearing everyone including you whine on every video we get it already lol we all miss the old VA but either you get over it or just don't play
@@theplatdream26 lol sorry. I gave the new VA every chance I could but seeing him butcher the ending too I just couldn't help it. After all as a fan I waited and wished all these years for a Crisis Core Remaster. I'd even go as far as saying Crisis Core is my all-time favorite game. It is what it is.
@@vc7415 Exactly. Like are we just gonna sit here and pretend that he's giving the performance of a lifetime while playing the scene where he found Tifa wounded? I can understand well if it's an indie game but we're talking about Final Fantasy, it's rare to have a butchered voice acting. If giving a criticism is considered as "crying" then people nowadays are sensitive af.
The reason why it's not part of the remake timeline is that in a cutscene where you see Zack whispers are hovering somewhere and Zack can see it. Here there are no whispers to signify that this follows the remake.
"It does feel... good" I cannot get this ending sequence, especially that line out of my head. Zack is genuinely one the best protagonists I've seen in a video game. He's a hero through and through, spending his final moments with joy and pride if what he has done and become rather than mourn himself. Fly high Zack Fair, with the wings of the goddess at your back 🥲.
I thought the ending might have changed here aswell since it did in main game, But not complaining, it still makes me cry just like the 1st time i played this game 12 years ago
I think this as well "could" considered to be pre-7remake and at the end of ff7R they jumped to another timeline that Zack lived to be meet them in Rebirth
The stuff with Zack is absolutely on a different timeline, hence why they showed a different design for Stamp the Dog during the changed scene. Zack is still dead on the Remake timeline as Cloud has the Buster Sword and has already set himself as Zack legacy
@@patrickmcgregor5168 I wouldn't be sure of that - a trailer last month showed a scene of Zack talking with a girl (About what would happen if Aerith died, I think) and it showed Cloud sat behind them (Couldn't tell if he was sleeping or unconscious there)
@@fierytigergaming8112 thats still on a different timeline, since Barret and Tifa are dead there too. There are not two Aeriths and Clouds. Cloud is still suffering from Mako Poisoning anyways, which Tifa is supposed to help him with, but she's already dead pm that timeline
Was really hoping for a secret ending of some sort that ties into Final Fantasy VII Remake. This is a remaster, sure; but so was Final Fantasy Type-0 and we still got “a little something extra” hinting at the future of the game’s universe. The difference with Crisis Core Reunion is that future is already established: we will be seeing an alternate timeline where Zack survived that encounter.
So, Genesis kinda became a Weapon like Ultimate Weapon and Diamond Weapon? If he did, does that mean the Weapons were some kind of native life form that was turned into mecha beings to protect the planet??? Maybe the Cetra were the true creator of them and Loveless is a mess representation of it?
Honestly... I don't 100% get all the hate toward the new VA for Zack. Like, I get it, many people prefer Rick Gomez' interpretation, there's definitely a lot to love about it, but I definitely believe a lot of people are being way too harsh toward the new Voice Actor. Like, let's face it here, The material both Actors had to work with was not great to say the least, Reunion's writing is, for the most part, unchanged compared to OG Crisis Core, and while Rick Gomez definitely managed to make it "work" back then, it was still goddamn awkward in many places. The way I would describe the "differences" between both VA is: One is meant to sound heroic right from the start, like a typical Shonen protagonists, and the other has for goal to sound more "humane" and "Dorky" rather than heroic. And let's also not forget that Zack... has always been a goddamn dork, he's not exactly the brightest dude either, BUT he has a Heart of Gold and gives A LOT of shit about his dreams and people he holds dear.
I understand the hate lol. It's so hard to find someone who doesn't entirely hate the new VA tho. He's not perfect but he's decent enough for me. Even if they replaced Caleb with someone else, the reaction would probably remain the same lol.
I totally support giving the original ending. It would be cool if we received the modified ending in New Game + mode though. Maybe even add some easter eggs that point to Remake in select cutscenes.
25:38 This reminds me to the first battle against Zeus in God of War 2, as Kratos and Zack were too injured during this parts, causing that they barely could makes some movements, making them incapable to fight back effectively against Zeus and Shinra troopers, leading that Kratos and Zack were killed in the process.
Heh. I still remember being in my room, my dad got a new TV and he had to mount it to a wall which was very loud. And I was just in my room on my PS2 playing God of War 2 and inside Collosus (pause)
Just beat the game.....an I must say loved it 💯 I really don’t know why they brought Zack back 🤦♂️ I enjoyed playing this Masterpiece back in the day on PSP an was in fact my very first FF game, an got me into FF. I was so looking forward to this game an it didn’t disappoint. However....after finishing it, I’m STILL even more puzzled why they would even bring Zack back 😔 this ending was hell always was a very *powerful* moment. Zack is the reason Cloud became the Hero he became to be, that saved the world. So....with Zack back it’s like....undermining everything he stood over an fought for. Don’t get me wrong I like Zack but....this game summed up his story *perfectly* in the beginning a young man, who wanted to be a hero an a man like his mentor and threw his trials and tribulations, everything he’s been therw up to the point of his death. He FINALLY became a Hero. Even if nobody knew or even recognized him for it. I really hope FF7 Rebirth proves me wrong. An they do his character Justice. Because FF7 Remake would of been just fine, if it was a simple remake version of the original FF7. Just like this was for the original Crisis core.
I suspect it is part of Sephiroth trying to change the outcome of the original. Bringing Zack into the fray will cause a lot of questions for Cloud, Tifa and Aerith. All three knew him and cloud now has his persona. It may well cause Cloud's identity crisis to fracture earlier and cause a shift in the outcome towards Sephiroth's favour. I personally think it will result in Zack having to make the ultimate sacrifice to return the timeline back in the process killing himself and erasing many people's memories of him since his original death in the most heroic way possible.
@@ragnaught219 Its possible, an him and Aeriths death especially Aeriths is Iconic, as long as they both die or rather there deaths have better meaning, an are even more iconic then i will understand the point of brining them back or at least Zack.
wouldnt be surprised that say Aerith and Zack actually living through all the way to the end to see the fight with Sephiroth that once he is re-defeated, whatever is holding these "separate timelines" in place will likely fall apart resulting in Aerith and Zack saying "well we did it and we're grateful for the chance to see it through to the end, but we need to go back to the lifestream as things SHOULD have been and so this is goodbye." There's alot more chance for narrative impact going that route than there would be in just leaving everyone alive to forge an ultimate happy ending ala FFIX.
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Things people should understand about this that a lot Ff7 fans get completely wrong. Clouds mind here is scrambled by the Mako experiments done on him and he is basically a vegatable with trauma. Cloud crawls to Zack with sheer willpower and Zacks first words to him is to survive for the both of them, that his honor and dreams are now Clouds and that Cloud is his living legacy. These words help Cloud reconstruct his scrambled thoughts by replacing the trauma with his own memories of Zack, adopting Zacks identity and actions. Some people seem to think Cloud has Zacks personal memories and personality which is false. Instead Cloud uses Zacks words to fix his mind and help him forget his trauma which is why he gets headaches anytime he is reminded of his Trauma in FF7. Cloud does not carry Zacks personal memories or personality but merely adopts his identity as a 1st class Soldier.
More people need to see this comment and upvote. Too many confused people out there even from decades ago
Eeeehhhhh sort of. It has been confirmed that Jenova cells allow the sharing of memories and such and back in the original those white flashes when Tifa finds Cloud at the station has been confirmed to be the cells rewriting his memory. The part about Cloud being a vegetable with trauma is 100% accurate but yeah it’s a mix of him repressing the memories and Jenova cells making him mimic Zack far more accurately. (You can actually see this in the Remake with how he sits and some of his mannerisms which are mimicking Zack more than just from observation)
Agreed 💯. i myself couldn't said it better
@@sanddry738 being able to connect through Jenova cells does not mean that Zack and Cloud connected through Jenova cells. None of them have this ability either. Cloud mimics the 1st class Soldier of Zacks but is also extremely different in personality and actions. People think Cloud has Zacks memories and personality which is completely wrong.
@@ldarkllrevanl181 he doesn’t have it exactly but he has a bit. It has to do with how Jenova cells can allow the host to mimic and share memories. It isn’t as extreme as Cloud becoming Zack but he definitely mimics and has false memories because of them
People dont seem to understand, the reason they kept the same ending is because they WANT people to experience Zack's death.
They kept it because there is no other ending. The remake is not what people think it is. The living Zack is not as alive as you guys think and the story is not about timelines but altered memories or something similiar. So surviving characters are still actually dead. Do not act surprised if we bump into a Zack and eventually we get the twist that nothing we see happened physically.
But FF7 not same ending...
ff7 is a remake, crisis core was a remaster
Huh??? No.. they kept the same ending because its a remaster, not a reimagined or remake.
@@Cetra29 7 remake is a remake of its history
Zack lives in that timeline
Sephiroth found a way to go back to the past by using the lifestream (Every meddling with the lifestream triggers a Weapon. The arbiters of fate are this.)
Aerith did the same thing to fight against whatever he's planning
And the rest we'll have to see in the 2nd game
God the way Cloud says “I’m…your living…legacy” hurts so much. It’s like he is barely comprehending what’s even happening and just repeating what he hears. Cody Christian absolutely nailed this scene and gave Cloud the kind of confused broken emotion that he needed.
I dunno if you guys are on board for an Advent Children game. But if they do. I wanna hear Cody say it with confidence. "That's right. I am your living legacy" and Limit Breaks the FUCK out of Sephiroth!
He was fine up until that scream, jfc
@@neobiblical Uhh. The scream was great? Steve did well until the Tidus scream.
@@MariusBoss11458 takahiro sakurai is supreme, incel
@@neobiblical bro Steve’s scream wasn’t even trying tf you mean
this game had me crying my eyes out in the women's coat section at Macy's when i was 9 years old gripping my PSP in tears
Damn 😢
Feel ya bro Shit hit Hard.
Thanks for sharing that unique memory, albeit heart breaking. Amazing you were at that age too when playing it
I still have a PSP disk with the game
Yeah i was like 12 if i remembr correctly. It was so fucking sad. And i didnt know anything about FF7. I only played Crisis Core at that time. Right now im enjoying Rebirth. Am 26 now. This Game back then taught me what real pain was.
21:45, this moment still hurts. The way Cloud reaches out to Zack is like he’s representing us, the players trying to prevent Zack’s death.
Sadly, it’s inevitable. He gave his life protecting Cloud, so he can live. So he can be the hero he always dreamed to be.
Zack's fate was discussed on the highest levels, he's going to be back thanks to you - the players who wanted him back so much, you made it real
“inevitable”
He doesnt know pepelaugh
@@HandlesL can you explain me why in the remake version of ff 7 they both survived??
@@HandlesL I know, but the main timeline still happens. Just going by the original story of FF7 before the remake introduced the concept of other timelines.
@@triadibayuseptiaji1620 at the end of remake, cloud and team disrupted the whispers (those shadow ghost) when they defeated the Harbinger. The whispers were supposed to ensure the story of the original ff7 continued to happen. When defeated, a new timeline was created. A timeline where Zack defeats the Shinra army and survives, heading back to midgar with Cloud
Losing the DMW is so sad all the memories that Zack has ,slowly leaving him forever in a battle you can’t win.Even though I knew Zack died I still cried,if only the Turks found him first.Aerith saying “Will I See You Again” just broke me.
They wouldn't have got there in time, SHINRA probably had a way to deter them - since they had opposing MO's. Tseng and Cissnei wanted to keep Cloud and Zack alive, so that he would get the letters from Aerith. Whereas Shinra wanted to kill them because they were pretty much criminals due to Hojo pulling strings to turn them into public enemy no 1
@@fierytigergaming8112 Does not help that the Shinra Troopers under the command of the Turks basically ignored their orders anyway. The Turks literally had no insurance or way to reach Zack.
I can't wait for the sequel, this dude Cloud looks badass
I hope they also make Aerith playable as well, I've been imagining her singlehandedly solo-ing Sephiroth and that unlocks a bonus ending
Hey remember that Tifa chick from Nibleheim? She also seemed very badass so I want to see her again. Can even imagine her being playble somehow.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 man, if only we could ever see some representation in the game, there's too many white people. Maybe make a stereotypical black guy with a gun, except this time make it a good father and somehow make it a lover of nature so it doesn't looks racist that his weapon is just a machine gun.
But I know that would never happen.
for some reason i want a vampire and a talking dog if there ever was a sequel
@@LOVER_LINK and maybe give the vampire a gun, that would be sick
The only thing cloud had over zack were his friends. Cloud had a lot of people to support him, while zack was mostly alone and all 3 of his friends betrayed him
can you name the three?
@@tonertonki sephiroth and angeal, dunno the third one. Genesis is antoganizing him the whole game.
Seph betrayed him in Nibelheim and Angeal betrayed him during the capture of Hollander.
Clouds emotions are what give him a plus ultra against people. It's also his greatest weakness too. It either breaks him down and makes him doubt himself (advent children) or gives him the strength to find power he never knew he had (first time he fought sephiroth when he got stabbed and flung sephi into a metal reactor followed by into a pit)
The third one is Luxiere a 2nd class soldier , in the ending he messaged zack , where is his location so he can get promoted
I have to mention since you say zack is mostly alone , he got a friend that is always support him , and still wait for him , he even get mentioned in the remake , Kunsel
Zack has plenty of friends. Kunsel, Cissnei, Tseung, Cloud and Aerith.
You can also count Sephiroth and Angeal for most of the game.
I love this trope of the hero being defeated but only because they were weakened.
Zack normally would never lose to shinryu's army of humans, 1st class were made to be able to solo entire armies. (Which is why sephiroth's weapon is so long, to literally reap as a many as possible). However he just bearly lived against genisis, while degrading is on par with his power, and buffed by the literal gawd of the world. Not to mention the psychological pain he was in, constantly protecting and carrying cloud. His friends, comrades and hero's were all dead (genisis' condition would of been unknown to Zack though). Aerith had finally given up on him after 4 years.
Again no way Zack would of lost here, but he wasn't at peak performance and that's what makes it beautiful.
Man
First class wasn’t meant to be superhuman until the compilation came out
Wrong. 1st Class are not immortal and they are not omnipotent gods. A SOLDIER 1st Class would survive but normally but also would have been tactically retreating. Zack could not retreat at all and had no cover so he was taking damage from all sides. This is because he was protecting Cloud. Also much of the "SOLDIER are gods" stuff comes from the game play mechanics. Bullets and blades are just as effective on them as they are on normal humans when they hit.
This point is further proven by the mission to defeat 1000 shinra soldiers. I never completed it, but if in-game Zack can win, then animation Zack can do even better.
Dont forget the new lore we got: You see in ff7r, that it was his fate to lose
I will never forget Crisis Core. I played it so much back then and yet it never failed to make me shed tears when Zack died. The Price of Freedom truly is steep.
rember you dreams
and what ever you do protect your honor as
SOILDER
COME AND GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes..this was one of my favorite endings to a game..nostalgic as well..
@@chrislake6001 this is old school as old school can be
@@topdog2007 old school? This game came out when!? You guys are showing how young you are... The original Final Fantasy VII is the real old school !!
@@charlieross4674 oh yeah ff7 on the ps1 was like what 1995 or some thing like that i got that in a flea market XD
Okay... This time Cloud's scream seemed really full of pain. I can respect that in his new voice.
Because it was Cody Christian (Cloud's current VA) who was voicing the scream. In the original Crisis Core, they had Tidus' VA do the scream despite Cloud's VA being Steve Burton
@@fierytigergaming8112wait a minute that means James Arnold Taylor did the scream (assuming they used the English voice actor for the English scream)? Now I'm even more confused why I don't like the original scream because James Arnold Taylor is an S-tier voice actor?
Cody is the perfect voice for Cloud. He nails every aspect of his character, the scream at the end especially. He took something that was kinda goofy in the original and made it so raw.
I really love his performance as Cloud, and that scream is definitely way better than the Original had.
Takahiro Sakurai is THE Cloud voice.
The fact that Aerith was waiting for him to return is sad 😔
@@cheaman2454 cope Clerith purist. Cloud is for Tifa
@@Gumshoe08 speak louder.
Also the fact that she knew Zack's passing by sensing his presence and hearing words from the lifestream. Imagine waiting for your loved one for years just to get a first-hand view of them dying the moment you meet them again.
@@Gumshoe08 tifa n aerith is for cloud ho ho ho....zack already dead n should stay dead.
@@Gumshoe08 not disapproving that Aerith love Cloud more then zack. But yeah , I agree that Cloud should end up with Tifa since Aerith is death
This is yet the only ending of a videogame that completely got me off guard and made me cry a waterfall. Incredible buildup with a very well fleshed out character.
why would they even change it?! i love Zack but changing the ending wont make ang sense!!
I take it you didn't play the original?
Every fan of FF7 back in the day saw this coming the instant they saw the protagonist.
This and ffx definitely get you in the feels
The ending that truly broke me when I played it in the PSP. Yeah I'll never touch this again, even with the amazing reviews. My heart can't take it back then, and it sure as hell can't take it now.
At least buy a game if ff7cc means anything to you
yeah I remember on psp when you start losing the memories in the dmw
It's way better than the OG Crisis Core
You may not be ready for the real world then.
This funny to me because I played Final Fantasy 7 on release and Aeriths death hit my feels. I never played the psp version, in fact the last Final Fantasy I played was the one with Lightning. I stopped buying them because none of them touch 7. 7 is simply put, perfect!
its important to recognize that they say the story continues in FF7 NOT FF7 Remake. They are definitely establishing a difference.
alot of people are split about zacks voice
but that cloud yell at the end was fucking amazing. this cloud nailed his role.
Okay that Cloud scream was so much more gut wrenching than the original holy crap
Absolutely, it was so goofy in the original.
Thank god Cody did it justice.
Cody is amazing. Perfect for Cloud.
@@ChadHellgado It was Tidus, not Cloud in the original CC - I think Steve Burton had trouble pulling off the scream?
I had been fighting the Shinra army for ~50 minutes before my mom finally looked up how to advance to the ending. The solution was to allow myself to take more damage, and a few rounds of me nearly dying and healing myself with aerial drain later, I finally managed to witness the most heartbreaking scene in my life.
I honestly wish I kept going until the end.
It's brutal. Slowly dying while memories (DMW) slowly fading away just to show the harsh ending for the player and zack
What do you mean you wished you kept going til the end? Sounds like you did that... You're meant to die. That's the end.
@@charlieross4674 I think he means until he was literally exhausted and unable to keep going, never giving up.
@@Adanu191 yeah, that’s pretty much what I meant to say, thank you.
😂
You know some people who only knew Zack from seeing him in 7 remake are going to be VERY confused
What I also like is that the Turks were seemingly in the dark about Zack's location, while most of Shinra prepared an ambush knowing exactly where Zack was going to be. Given how the Turks operate and how good they are (Cissnei immediately found Zack soon after the escape from Nibelheim), there is likely more going on. Personally, I feel that it can be implied that the President, Heidegger, etc. all kept important information from the Turks regarding Zack's location near Midgar because they likely knew or had suspicions that Tseng and everyone were not going to turn over Zack if caught.
I wonder, what was Cissnei's reaction after finding out that Zack had perished? Atleast in the original timeline...
Massive heartache, now in full 4K-HDR-60fps glory.
I can't believe I have to relive this pain again. My boi Zack deserves so so much more. But I know his sacrifice plays a big big role in the main game and later on. You're always our hero Zack.
long live Zack!
@@theArchive1O nah...he's dead 😅
@@kitsune-nano4568 Not anymore, he's not. The remake screwed the timeline over. Zack is back, somehow.
You'll probably get your happy Disney ending in the remake
@@RIELSG Nah, I said this because his character meant a lot to me and they gave him a very brutal death. But his sacrifice is what made the main game special and what made Advent Children too. The remake is non-canon for me.
One of the saddest ending in the Final Fantasy series. But looking at the bright side.. Another version of Zack is still alive in different timeline.
can you pls explain to me is the ff7 remake and crisis are differents timelines or what ?? because i didn't undrestand a thing. In ff7 remake why cloud doesn't know aerith but he already met her at crisis can smby explain pls
@@ismailmachhour2910 hes not alive. Nothing is confirmed until now. Timelines are just so plain stupid in any storytelling;
@@ismailmachhour2910 ff7 reamake itself has different timelines where Zack dies and in another Zack is alive.this is the timeline in crisis core where Zack is dead but in another he is alive
@@ismailmachhour2910 final fantasy 7 remake is essentially a sequel but thats way too much to explain. Just know its a sequel of sorts and is a completely different story to final fantasy 7 original because the party killed fate, anything can happen now
@@ismailmachhour2910 CC and remake are different. Remake is basically a whole different (wrecked) timeline from the original and CC. In the remake anything new can possible happen at any time. CC remaster doesn't change any critical plot so it still sticks to the original timeline.
Some of us knew Zack would die and still tried desperately to find another option where he didn't die.
Zack will forever be one of the best FF character
Even decades after the ending still hurts, Zack Fair you are a HERO!!
I still love Rick Gomez as Zack Fair, but Caleb Price take on the character isn't all that bad compared to how people making out to be. He definitly improved redoing the "Price of Freedom" scene compared to how it was presented in FF7 Remake.
I feel like Rick Gomez puts so much more passion into Zack in comparison to Caleb's performance. Honestly watch the two and it's clear who really nailed Zack.
@@FrostbiteDigital I agree
Caleb nailed the price of freedom scene this time, very similar to how Rick did it
imo caleb was really good at post time skip zack ( aka older zack )
which is a good thing because this is the zack we are sticking with from here on in the next parts
Seems like he got a better direction this time on how to do those lines instead of that horrible 'the price of freeDOM is STEEP' and 'come and GET IiIiIiIiT' in the remake.
Wow. I'm glad to know so many other people were moved to tears by this game. Like Cloud I modeled my persona after Zack. The line "Embrace your dreams." Has been my motto ever since playing this game years ago. I accomplished quite a few my dreams. His legacy will live on!
Lol, "The Price of freedom is steep" is one of mine (The other being "Are you finished? It's my turn now. Hope you're fine with that!" from Honkai Impact)
Yep... "The Price of Freedom is steep." I felt that...
Also, fun fact: thats the name of the BGM in the last battle...
Correct but it’s just called “The Price Of Freedom”
Just finished.
*man*
This was my first time playing Crisis Core.
Already knowing what happens to him before playing the entire game.
I was legitimately was like "why isn't my Phoenix down working? Please don't do this. You were this close :("
22:12 very glad Caleb Pierce decided to change the way he delivered this line. To me it was never an issue that the VA’s changed, it was solely about how the line was delivered.
In Remake, it almost sounded like Zack was cockily looking forward to dying against the battalion which doesn’t match at all with the tone of the scene.
Here, he sounds like someone whose disappointedly aware that he’s about to die but is willing to give his all to protect his friend and see his crush again.
it helps knowing that nothing is changed.
but man the music. the Why song. it's so powerful
Its a remaster not a remake, nothing changed for Crisis Core. Zack did die.
But we already know the Sephiroth in the Remake is the one that experienced already a final death, he manipulates the lifestream to change his fate.
Zacks fate is unknown in the remake so far.
This was the first and only game to ever make me cry. Never was a fan FFVII but playing this and becoming a big fan of Zack’s character leading up this hopeless fight was saddening.
SAME. The ending didn't sit right with me. Zack grew on me and I invested so much into him.
Perhaps this is one of the most moving ending in the history of video game
They didn't change the ending so that new players can experience Zack's death and understand the significance of his appearance and survival in the remake ending
I remember finishing Crisis Core back on the PSP days, it was the only game so far that made me cry so hard. I've played the OG FFVII prior to this and didn't care for Zack but now, he's one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters ever. Hoping he'll play more roles in the remake
Agreed. Totally wouldn’t be upset if they brought him back somehow
@@anonymous-one look at the ff7 remake dlc ending...
I know damn well I'm not the only one that still cries at the ending even for this remake. But for the first time, I cried with joy when he returned in the original remake. But even after all these years, this scene alone tears me apart
Caleb has some good lines man. I wish he kept a serious tone like Rick did. He nails it in all of the quiet scenes.
When that DMW got stuck on Aerith, man I was balling tears. I would never forget how hard I took Zack’s death when I played this on the PSP years ago. This was the first PlayStation game I cried to from the death of a character.
Cool...now i can cry...
But in 4k 😢
Aerith death next gonna be more painful I hope they don't change her fate..
@@naxionkryelight951 I hope this time Cloud knows how to call 911 and perform CPR
With how much I dislike Caleb as Zacks new voice actor you can tell he tried his hardest to deliver the final lines. He delivered the “the price of freedom is steep” line much better in this game than in the Remake
Same. Was incredibly disappointed with his entire performance, but was pleasantly surprised here
I don't think that's fair to the voice actor and more a result of the voice direction.
You can certainly tell that in the recording booth he was likely told to mimic as much of his predecessors performance as closely as possible (even if that funky 2000's voice acting is not as great by today's standards) instead of trying to sound natural.
I've heard what caleb can sound like when he's given room to work, so i expect his role in remake trilogy to be a major step up.
I don't know why so many fans are down on our newbie Zack-voice, whose name escapes me at the moment. I think he did a great job. Yes, Rick Gomez is one of a kind, but the new guy did well too. That last scene with Cody was beautiful, the little changes in Zack's voice as he speaks at the end are great, I think.
He really nailed zachs voice here. Sadly I can't agree no matter what on his original debut. I cringed really bad when I heard his squeaky "the price of freedom is steeep" way better now in this wfene
He definitely improved here compared to the Remake. Especially his Price of Freedom line before the final fight. In the original take in FFVIIR it sounded pretty bad. If I were to describe it, in the Remake he sounded like “Ugh, I guess I have to do this” and just very smug, while the original Crisis Core (and now Reunion) actually sounded like Zack was preparing for the inevitable while remaining confident in his beliefs until the end. Caleb Pierce did such a good job with the line in this case.
The real reason why they didn't change the ending...
Is because it's just a perfect ending.
I just wish there'd been a secret ending for old fans, like what they did with Ignis' DLC in FFXV. What-ifs...
I'm confused how come Zack dies still in Crisis Core but he doesn't die in FF7 remake? this same scene happens except he walks away alive?
@@gantashiro978 because this one is a real remake of the 1st one, that's the same game and story.
The one of FF7 remake well as you must see there is a lot of thing that wasn't the same as the original, because Sephiroth try to change the destiny (he probably know what will happens so he could be the Sephiroth from Advent Children that manage to came to the past for his purpose) so the Zack on FF7 remake is probably the one that get his destiny change in the timeline remake
While the one of this vids is just the normal Zack with his real destiny
@@EdgeyStyle most people are saying that 2 timelines are merging in FF7 R thats why there will probably be 2 buster swords, 2 clouds and 1 zack that is alive
@I Watch Stuffs and I'm very skeptical with Nomura, turning it into Kingdom Hearts b.s. hopefully, I'm proven wrong, but remakes ending made me worry about the next installment.
Zack: Hero/First Class.
Sephiroth: First Class.
Angeal: First Class.
Genesis: First Class.
Cloud: Borrowed Memory.
Finished playing CC Reunion yesterday.
The sad part is that I’ve played the OG Crisis Core more than once, I’m more than familiar with the ending, and yet during the final sequence I still fought for my life spamming Potions and Curaga 😭😭
8:51 that soldier battle OST still 🔥
I saw Final Fantasy Advent Children before playing this gem of a game on the PSP. After the game I finally understood who the person was at the ending - being the spirit of Zack.
Man do i love this game to death, one of the best stories ever…
THIS GAME WAS MY DOOR TO FF!!! AND I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS GAME WHEN I 1st PLAYED IT MANY YEARS AGO!!! NEVER GET TIRED OF IT SAME FEELINGS AS EVER!!
I cried so bad when I was a kid….all these years later seeing my hero die again 😏
I’m going to cry again 😭😭😭 Wrong decision to search the ending for FFVII Crisis Core Reunion. I thought there’ll be a different one compared from the PSP version.
Thanks for making me cry, and feel the pain. 😭
I have this game for psp still, always impressed how amazing looks for a portable console and its ending is one of the best in ff saga, also the saddest, love this ff so much.
IMO Caleb's Zack gradually gets better sounding after he gets the new hair & the buster sword. Almost like there's a maturation process for his entire character. Maybe that's the direction they were going for.
Pre-buster sword = Young, naive, wet-behind-the-ears
With buster sword= More serious sounding, less cheesiness in the delivery
Just my two cents
Now that we got the remake of Crisis Core hopefully we get the remake of Dirge of Cerberus and play as Vincent! 😬
Valentine has such a cool design I swear
Please don't xD
They'd have to build it from the ground up that game was really bad
Vincent is confirmed for Rebirth (VA being Matthew Mercer), so who knows how he'll play into it
@@maxisaev568 Think about Platinum doing this remake, think about the crazy things that could be in the game
I remember playing this game in PSP. I was very sad for about a week after Zack died. And seeing the remastered version of it and then the ending cinematic when Cloud is above the train then playing FF7 remake after is just beautiful.
There is an important buff to the badassery of Zack Fair’s final stand.
They added helicopter wreckage to the battlefield after the time skip, indicating that he had destroyed them, rather than them leaving because they ran out of fuel necessary to reach a suitable landing site as implied in the Crisis Core ending. Even in the FFVII remake, only a single helicopter’s wreckage is visible.
I’ll be honest, I could get used to Caleb Pierce as Zack. I think he’s improved since his debut in Remake. Can’t wait to see how he improves with time.
I never play this game anymore because I don’t want to make him die once again. I couldn’t imagine how many times I had cried after the first time I played that 14 years ago…….just let it rest it peace in my memory now…
I JUST finished this game, and I'm crying. The way they designed the fight against the Shinra infantrymen was genius... it made me feel completely powerless and hopeless, with the limit breaks 'malfunctioning,' and Zack losing his strength. It was brutal seeing the infantrymen shooting him from his point of view. And I'll never hear "The Price of Freedom" the same again.
I don't care what people say; Crisis Core is a great game. They way the executed the ending alone makes this game great, in my eyes. The writers had guts to kill off the player character, and they did it right.
Sorry is this is jumbled, I'm still collecting my thoughts... 😭
A tip for the new players who didn't know the easiest way to beat genesis here, is get blizzarga change your focus to genesis himself and not the sword, then spam.
The materia actually has less health than genesis by a lot pretty sure
Is mug still a meta in this one?
Really!? I just spammed dark firaga when I was a kid 😂
@@justsomedemononthefbiwante4023 i just spammed the hell outta hell firaga and won alittle too fast
I swear if they don't give Zack the happy ending he deserves in the remake I'm writing a strongly worded letter
Me too.
I'm here hoping that they implemented the 7R's ending by actually killing everything the Shinra Army can throw at you, because Zack's death was considered destiny and that's broken
A place where a hero died, and a hero began his journey.
Interesting. Although it is pretty clear that remake is a sequel for everything before it, the post credit scene which cloud said "I am cloud, soldier 1st class" told us to continue the story in "Final Fantasy VII" not "Final Fantasy VII Remake"
Zack is so close to death at the end that Aerith’s pose in the DMW changes.
His death hurts so much, but man, I am so sad for Aerith as well. Her love lives on.
Anyone else get the impressions that at 34:30, its essentially showing the lifestream pieces of Zack reach Aerith now in the "new" timeline at the spot the original Crisis Core essentially ends at and it's a major point in triggering her awareness that something is in fact off/seems familiar and begins the realization that this is the second coming of events? She would have well noticed his entering the lifestream in the original timeline and i'd imagine re-experiencing such a core trauma is one of the main things tipping her off to having the same "timeline awareness" that Sephiroth has.
Factually there are two timelines now and it's also well demonstrated of certain others awareness' of this (Sephiroth indirectly speaks out to the player breaking the 4th wall referencing things wont go the same way this time, Aerith showing... something.... to Marlene as well as RedXIII prompting flashbacks of sorts, etc.) and frankly i'd have to imagine that eventually when we run into Bugenhagen he's going to be aware that something is going on as well....
20:14 I know I’m going to cry later but this scene is one of my favorites it reminds me of advent children I’m glad they added them with this style in the game(talking about the animation not the line)
I remember playing the original and the ending made me sad and mad like why!? Ma boi deserves better than that.
Cloud say he won't forget but after he walk to midgar he forget everything and told everyone he is Soldier 1st' class (his memory combine with zack)
I just finished this game for the first time last night. I always knew it was a tragic tale, but making the player play through the hopeless battle, truly heartbreaking, a little sadistic on the developer’s end.😢
Told myself I would not cry at the ending since I already knew what to expect, and I was doing well at it until Cloud’s scream at the end 😭 Cody delivered that perfectly
I'm totally new to the series, didn't know anything about these characters a few days ago, and OUCH did Zack's death hit so dang hard. For me, part of what drives it home is how, during the entire game, you don't see the characters ever actually bleed from their injuries, even when Cloud gets skewered by Sephiroth. They don't actually show the injuries. But here at the end, for once, the game cuts to Zack, bleeding profusely from the head, riddled with bullet holes, and lying in a pool of his own blood. It's so jarring and painful to see
26:30 glad they kept the same rawness in the remaster, this is some harsh shit
23:34 always loved that you just can't rambo down the helicopters
Jesus Clouds new scream at the end grew about 37lbs worth of balls. It actually jarred me a moment not knowing what to expect when I beat it xD I still had Clouds old scream in my head then this dude reached into his bowels and ripped them out through his esophagus for that scream.
15 years later, this ending still breaks my heart. Why did they remove Cloud's howling near Zack's body though? This was such a sad and heartbreaking moment, I was surprised they didn't keep this.
You mean this? 31:04
@@WanderingNerd21 yes, on the original game Cloud screams at that moment, I don't get why they removed this
@@eskapisti489it’s still there…
@@Cheesepoop damn on my game (on PS5) it's not! I did not even turn the sound of this video on as I thought it was the same for everyone. I probably encountered a glitch then...
@@eskapisti489 ik what u mean I’ve seen the same glitch on other channels. I’m not for sure but I think they’ve patched it by now
Thank the gods this story was left pure and untouched.
Man this game is DOUBLE the pain huh?
The pain of reliving Zack's death
and the pain of playing through the game hearing Caleb's poor performance as Zack.
I'm 100% playing the game in Japanese dub. Hope the modders put Rick's voice in soon.
Actually there's a single line in the game where it plays rick gomez' delivery idk the reason maybe its just temporary
Bro stop crying already either play the game or don't play it it's actually ridiculous hearing everyone including you whine on every video we get it already lol we all miss the old VA but either you get over it or just don't play
@@theplatdream26 lol sorry. I gave the new VA every chance I could but seeing him butcher the ending too I just couldn't help it. After all as a fan I waited and wished all these years for a Crisis Core Remaster. I'd even go as far as saying Crisis Core is my all-time favorite game. It is what it is.
@@vc7415 Exactly. Like are we just gonna sit here and pretend that he's giving the performance of a lifetime while playing the scene where he found Tifa wounded? I can understand well if it's an indie game but we're talking about Final Fantasy, it's rare to have a butchered voice acting. If giving a criticism is considered as "crying" then people nowadays are sensitive af.
@@theplatdream26 How about YOU stop crying when people give out legitimate criticism huh?
I thought that, as it's a kind of "remake", Zack couldn't die. Because in Final Fantasy VII Remake, he didn't die...
its a remaster not a remake.
this is the original timeline, not remake's timeline. in remake, zack is shown surviving, but in the original timeline he doesn't.
The reason why it's not part of the remake timeline is that in a cutscene where you see Zack whispers are hovering somewhere and Zack can see it. Here there are no whispers to signify that this follows the remake.
i was really hoping they would so a second ending or something where we see the zack that survives
I just came to see 33:12 to see if I would can cry again like I did when I was a little kid …
And yes? I did
🥹😭😭😭
I'm not ready to cry for the second time
My only problem with this besides the voice change for Zack is that they also changed the Buster swords design from the original.
Don't worry y'allz! In another universe, Zack's alive and well and in Olympus Coliseum alongside Hercules and attempting to ask Aqua out on a date!
"It does feel... good"
I cannot get this ending sequence, especially that line out of my head.
Zack is genuinely one the best protagonists I've seen in a video game. He's a hero through and through, spending his final moments with joy and pride if what he has done and become rather than mourn himself. Fly high Zack Fair, with the wings of the goddess at your back 🥲.
I thought the ending might have changed here aswell since it did in main game, But not complaining, it still makes me cry just like the 1st time i played this game 12 years ago
I think this as well "could" considered to be pre-7remake and at the end of ff7R they jumped to another timeline that Zack lived to be meet them in Rebirth
The stuff with Zack is absolutely on a different timeline, hence why they showed a different design for Stamp the Dog during the changed scene. Zack is still dead on the Remake timeline as Cloud has the Buster Sword and has already set himself as Zack legacy
@@derekdirk3829 people want to fantasize about being given second chances instead of learning to cherish what they have in the moment
@@patrickmcgregor5168 I wouldn't be sure of that - a trailer last month showed a scene of Zack talking with a girl (About what would happen if Aerith died, I think) and it showed Cloud sat behind them (Couldn't tell if he was sleeping or unconscious there)
@@fierytigergaming8112 thats still on a different timeline, since Barret and Tifa are dead there too. There are not two Aeriths and Clouds. Cloud is still suffering from Mako Poisoning anyways, which Tifa is supposed to help him with, but she's already dead pm that timeline
@@patrickmcgregor5168 Source?
2007 - zack death
2022 - zack : there we go again
:P
Was really hoping for a secret ending of some sort that ties into Final Fantasy VII Remake. This is a remaster, sure; but so was Final Fantasy Type-0 and we still got “a little something extra” hinting at the future of the game’s universe. The difference with Crisis Core Reunion is that future is already established: we will be seeing an alternate timeline where Zack survived that encounter.
When I heard his voice in remake, I hated it. But honestly he did pretty damn good in Reunion
So, Genesis kinda became a Weapon like Ultimate Weapon and Diamond Weapon? If he did, does that mean the Weapons were some kind of native life form that was turned into mecha beings to protect the planet??? Maybe the Cetra were the true creator of them and Loveless is a mess representation of it?
Honestly... I don't 100% get all the hate toward the new VA for Zack. Like, I get it, many people prefer Rick Gomez' interpretation, there's definitely a lot to love about it, but I definitely believe a lot of people are being way too harsh toward the new Voice Actor.
Like, let's face it here, The material both Actors had to work with was not great to say the least, Reunion's writing is, for the most part, unchanged compared to OG Crisis Core, and while Rick Gomez definitely managed to make it "work" back then, it was still goddamn awkward in many places.
The way I would describe the "differences" between both VA is: One is meant to sound heroic right from the start, like a typical Shonen protagonists, and the other has for goal to sound more "humane" and "Dorky" rather than heroic.
And let's also not forget that Zack... has always been a goddamn dork, he's not exactly the brightest dude either, BUT he has a Heart of Gold and gives A LOT of shit about his dreams and people he holds dear.
I understand the hate lol. It's so hard to find someone who doesn't entirely hate the new VA tho. He's not perfect but he's decent enough for me. Even if they replaced Caleb with someone else, the reaction would probably remain the same lol.
I cried the first time i played crisis core ff7. RIP Zack!
I tried so hard to keep
It together while replaying this remaster but once why and memories of zack went by I lost it 😢
Oh man the song is still there, that song just makes that seen so much more powerful
I gotta say, the voice acting and Cloud's scream are a lot less awkward here than in the original.
I totally support giving the original ending. It would be cool if we received the modified ending in New Game + mode though. Maybe even add some easter eggs that point to Remake in select cutscenes.
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This reminds me to the first battle against Zeus in God of War 2, as Kratos and Zack were too injured during this parts, causing that they barely could makes some movements, making them incapable to fight back effectively against Zeus and Shinra troopers, leading that Kratos and Zack were killed in the process.
Heh. I still remember being in my room, my dad got a new TV and he had to mount it to a wall which was very loud. And I was just in my room on my PS2 playing God of War 2 and inside Collosus (pause)
They also kept the original end credits song. That's nice
Just beat the game.....an I must say loved it 💯 I really don’t know why they brought Zack back 🤦♂️ I enjoyed playing this Masterpiece back in the day on PSP an was in fact my very first FF game, an got me into FF. I was so looking forward to this game an it didn’t disappoint. However....after finishing it, I’m STILL even more puzzled why they would even bring Zack back 😔 this ending was hell always was a very *powerful* moment. Zack is the reason Cloud became the Hero he became to be, that saved the world. So....with Zack back it’s like....undermining everything he stood over an fought for.
Don’t get me wrong I like Zack but....this game summed up his story *perfectly* in the beginning a young man, who wanted to be a hero an a man like his mentor and threw his trials and tribulations, everything he’s been therw up to the point of his death. He FINALLY became a Hero. Even if nobody knew or even recognized him for it.
I really hope FF7 Rebirth proves me wrong. An they do his character Justice. Because FF7 Remake would of been just fine, if it was a simple remake version of the original FF7. Just like this was for the original Crisis core.
I suspect it is part of Sephiroth trying to change the outcome of the original. Bringing Zack into the fray will cause a lot of questions for Cloud, Tifa and Aerith. All three knew him and cloud now has his persona. It may well cause Cloud's identity crisis to fracture earlier and cause a shift in the outcome towards Sephiroth's favour. I personally think it will result in Zack having to make the ultimate sacrifice to return the timeline back in the process killing himself and erasing many people's memories of him since his original death in the most heroic way possible.
@@ragnaught219 Its possible, an him and Aeriths death especially Aeriths is Iconic, as long as they both die or rather there deaths have better meaning, an are even more iconic then i will understand the point of brining them back or at least Zack.
wouldnt be surprised that say Aerith and Zack actually living through all the way to the end to see the fight with Sephiroth that once he is re-defeated, whatever is holding these "separate timelines" in place will likely fall apart resulting in Aerith and Zack saying "well we did it and we're grateful for the chance to see it through to the end, but we need to go back to the lifestream as things SHOULD have been and so this is goodbye." There's alot more chance for narrative impact going that route than there would be in just leaving everyone alive to forge an ultimate happy ending ala FFIX.