Especially if more apps decide to start using keypasses, the only option now is to buy an impractical external fingerprint scanner. I'd love to see fingerprint sensors in good mechanical keyboards!
@@swirlofsilliness It used to allow Samsung Phones' Fingerprint Sensor to be used for that purpose but then Microsoft changed stuff and removed the support.
One thing I learned this week using a tiny borrowed laptop at work for some "programming" is that I hate tiny (less than full) keyboards. I have wondered if I could live without my numpad, the answer to that is a resounding no.
I want my Function keys for gaming. Of all the features you thing keyboards need, a silly image screen seems like one that is really not needed. Someone noted a better idea below, how about a biometric sensor.
@@sunjames3276 Really? The screenshot AND the title are all about the LCD screen, it makes people click on it to discover what it does AND THEN THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN? You can't say they have no time for that after they do all this! Also didn't they say they'd improve the depth of unboxings on ShortCircuit a while back after criticism of doing exactly this? It's getting to a point where these ShortCircuits only repeat specs you can find on a product page and little else of note.
Logitech g19 had a screen and it's probably my favourite non-mechanical keyboard, though I wish they'd done a version with the extra keys on a separate pad so you could move them around/remove them
With outer bezels that large and a target that includes professionals, there needs to be a Function Key row at the top. move stuff down to make room for it at the top
With all that chin space they could have threw the knob further up and to the right so it can have a page up button. Page up button is important, insert however.....
What features can the display show? Fans, cpu, gpus, input delay, audio latency? Managed to talk about everything but the one reason people might buy this
Could you make a video for really dirty environments, that are either really easy to clean while being low maintenance or that prevents food or other particulates from entering?
I'm clearly missing something here, but where is the Page Up key? I'm all for a compact layout, but I've never seen a keyboard with a Page Down but no Page Up.
Royal Kludge makes a 87% keyboard with almost identical layout, but the screen is just black and white that shows just battery percentage, macOS/windows mode, and which device to select to when you’re switching between cable/BT/2.4ghz And that keyboard has volume controls with the knob in addition to switch devices
It would be even nicer if the software would be opensource and run on like a rp2040 raspberry pi chip unstead of some unknown microcontroller running oem firmware. Then also a lot of programmers/devs can make awesome software for it and display complex things (and even doom or bad apple)
I've seen a couple keyboards now with, what I would call, useless knobs. The connection mode should just be a switch on the back and the knob be volume. How often are you going to be switching modes? Most people would never touch that knob after day one because it has a useless function. The screen is kinda cool but also a gimmick that doesn't do anything. Still cool it's there for that price though
The Steel Series Apex Pro has a much better, more useful screen imo. It's a dot-matrix LCD, not a full color OLED, but honestly, what good does having a super small, low res photo on your keyboard do? The screen should be used to change keyboard settings and actuation points, and display real time hardware monitoring info. And the Apex Pro is best in class in those areas. Plus, you can play snake directly on the keyboard.
How does this compare to the Epomaker rt100 in terms of typing quality? The rt100 is $60 more expensive in my country but comes with sea salt silent switches. Not sure what I should get.
I wish they would make something more like the Logitech G510s even though it is a basic monochrome LCD, it is far more useful than that tiny color LCD display.
I wished Logitech made a mechanical G19s.... the screen was so useful for keeping an eye on system specs. Now using a Corsair K100, missed the system information screen so much I bought a 3.5inch system monitoring screen.
My only complaint is the top and bottom bezels are wasted real-estate. Could have easily just put macro keys or media control buttons there. If they ever either slim down the bezels, or add an extra row of keys/buttons(like the f row), I'd definitely buy one, even if it's $100.
I've just realized why I dislike Plouffe as a host/reviewer; he's the type of customer that landed us in this "no headphone jacks, all displays have notches, no bezels allowed" phone caul-de-sac. Every time something is NOVEL to him, he slobbers all over it, regardless of how completely stupid or pointless it is, and before he can even come up with a use case for it he immediately says "I want this on EVERYTHING now!" He's a great guy to have around when you need someone to give a positive take on a sponsored product that everyone else in the office immediately identifies as being dumb and useless, but now that I've recognized it, I'm just not going to watch any more Plouffe videos. His face in the thumbnail tells me everything I need to know about the product AND the video: it's too expensive and/or stupid for me to consider buying, and he's going to spend 5 to 11 minutes singing its praises because he loves The New Shiny
IF the keyboard / mouse had fingerprint sensor, will the computer take it as inbuilt peripheral like in the laptop or it will be added as external peripheral?
Would be nice if the firmware was opensource and the keyboard had a rp2040 for the display. If they maks everything opensource it allows awesome programmers/devs to program their own functions on the display or use the display to run doom
I have a small OLED display on my ROG Azoth 75%. I dont really understand the fuss over it. It does almost nothing. Shows battery life since its wireless, and I can see what percent the volume is when I change it. Thats about the only actual use. I have it display a pic of my cat otherwise.
The screen just looks off because it's not aligned with the edges of keys, like someone just had an idea and made a hole for a screen in a random place.
screens on a keyboard are a cool addition... not this screen, this one really felt like a decorative gimmick instead of maybe being over the Function keys like the Apple Touchbar also no Professional Keyboard is bellow TKL, with an option to re-attach the numpad
My steelseries apex 7 pro (full size, but available tkl also) has an oled screen that i used to have random gifs on but now have it cycling my temps and stuff. Highly recommend it for reasonable price. BUT it's cherry blues if that's a deal breaker for you.
I always wondered why keyboard manufacturers don't add fingerprint scanners to the keyboards so you can use that to log into desktops instead of using shitty passwords?
I ended up getting the RT100. Know a bit lower profile (and works for volume put of the box), and it has a number pad. Separate number pads are WAY too expensive for me to consider a keyboard without one.
I bought a mechanical keyboard off of Amazon for $100 that was similar to this. I was able to get it with red switches, and it had the little display on the side with the exact same options. However, the screen that I got on my keyboard wasn’t color. I actually had to complain because the switches that I got were not lubed properly. The seller ended up giving me $50 back so that I could buy what I needed to lube my own switches. I wonder if screens on keyboards is going to be the new thing
It took me some time to register that you don't know how to write "lube", especially since the rest of the text seems spot on. Did you possibly dictate the text?
"Designed for professionals" so where is the freaking numpad? Never have I seen any professional who doesn't use a numpad unless it;s in some kind of hipster office or bring your own keyboard office
Imagine if it was something useful like a fingerprint sensor for Windows Hello?
Especially if more apps decide to start using keypasses, the only option now is to buy an impractical external fingerprint scanner. I'd love to see fingerprint sensors in good mechanical keyboards!
I'm loving that functionality on my MacBook Air. Jes sayin'…
@@pazdikanor even support for using our android phone fingerprint scanners for Hello
@@swirlofsilliness It used to allow Samsung Phones' Fingerprint Sensor to be used for that purpose but then Microsoft changed stuff and removed the support.
@@lorensims4846 last time I checked even Windows laptops have them.
MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS is the point of discussion here not LAPTOPS.
One thing I learned this week using a tiny borrowed laptop at work for some "programming" is that I hate tiny (less than full) keyboards. I have wondered if I could live without my numpad, the answer to that is a resounding no.
just gotta get good ;)
Separate numpad is good
Numpad and a damn page up key, ever tried using a terminal without those?!
@@NeoAcheron Other than delete, I rarely touch those 6 keys.
@@--_DJ_-- how do you live as a programmer never touching home or end
I want my Function keys for gaming. Of all the features you thing keyboards need, a silly image screen seems like one that is really not needed. Someone noted a better idea below, how about a biometric sensor.
Would have been nice if you looked more at the software and what the screen can do.
Yes I have absolutely no idea what that screen is for other than being a gimmick. Can you make it display system info?
they dont have time for that
@@sunjames3276 Really? The screenshot AND the title are all about the LCD screen, it makes people click on it to discover what it does AND THEN THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN? You can't say they have no time for that after they do all this! Also didn't they say they'd improve the depth of unboxings on ShortCircuit a while back after criticism of doing exactly this? It's getting to a point where these ShortCircuits only repeat specs you can find on a product page and little else of note.
@@redavatar thats the whole theme of this channel. showing gimmicky shit that serves no real purpose
They killed the PgUp key for something that could have been a side slide switch...
@4:30 you cannot upload peanut butter to a keyboard.
I never understood this: Professional and 70%? I need the numpad. I can't work without the numpad.
That and no function keys either. Makes this completely useless imo
@femboy_nero Yeah, completely useless. Not like you can type with it or anything.
I m architect with 65% keyboard. I m already used to no numpad already
@@chutcentral for me that's like looking at a car without a steering wheel saying "well you can technically still drive the car tho"
Good news! Not everyone does the kind of work you do where a numpad is useful.
With those thick bezels, they might have included the F row
4:31 It's GIFS not GIFS
He pronounced it right. The creator of it named it after his favorite peanut butter jiff
Why does he say GIFs wrong? Is it a Canadian thing?
Logitech g19 had a screen and it's probably my favourite non-mechanical keyboard, though I wish they'd done a version with the extra keys on a separate pad so you could move them around/remove them
With outer bezels that large and a target that includes professionals, there needs to be a Function Key row at the top. move stuff down to make room for it at the top
4:30 bro really said jifs 💀
With all that chin space they could have threw the knob further up and to the right so it can have a page up button. Page up button is important, insert however.....
Plouffe, we need a keyboard roundup of your favorite keyboard at different price points (maybe every $100)
Good ol Jraphics Interchange Format
What features can the display show? Fans, cpu, gpus, input delay, audio latency? Managed to talk about everything but the one reason people might buy this
But what's the point of the little screen? I don't get why anyone would want that there lol.
Could you make a video for really dirty environments, that are either really easy to clean while being low maintenance or that prevents food or other particulates from entering?
I'm confused, is the little screen to have a tiny little piece of digital art on the keyboard at all times? What is it even for again?
I'm clearly missing something here, but where is the Page Up key? I'm all for a compact layout, but I've never seen a keyboard with a Page Down but no Page Up.
if they had a full (I dont know if they do) I'd maybe look into it.... I like the sound of the switches
What are some use cases for having a screen in the keyboard?
Making Ploeff (spelling?) salivate?
A new adverisment strategy for parent company is the main use case
It looks "cool"
Weird position for the knob, page up gone but page down still there? Useless low-pixel display instead of something useful
can the display run a digital keyboard tho
Not a bad price, though I will never understand the love for smaller keyboards. I just want my space and numpad with good keyswitches
Royal Kludge makes a 87% keyboard with almost identical layout, but the screen is just black and white that shows just battery percentage, macOS/windows mode, and which device to select to when you’re switching between cable/BT/2.4ghz
And that keyboard has volume controls with the knob in addition to switch devices
I still want a KB with each key having a programmable LCD in it.
Swap between languages or game icons on the fly without having to swap keycaps.
It would be even nicer if the software would be opensource and run on like a rp2040 raspberry pi chip unstead of some unknown microcontroller running oem firmware. Then also a lot of programmers/devs can make awesome software for it and display complex things (and even doom or bad apple)
Why did they get rid of the page-up button?
NO SCROLLING UP FOR YOU. ONLY DOWN.
I've seen a couple keyboards now with, what I would call, useless knobs. The connection mode should just be a switch on the back and the knob be volume. How often are you going to be switching modes? Most people would never touch that knob after day one because it has a useless function. The screen is kinda cool but also a gimmick that doesn't do anything. Still cool it's there for that price though
That was one of the shortest review video's I have ever watched from this channel
The knob not controlling the volume might be the make or break for me. =(
If you love this, you'll love fluxkeyboard even more. Cant wait to purchase it
Go back and look at the Razer Deathstalker 2013. had like 8 lcd screens basically a stream deck more than 10 years before its time. nyawn
do you know how to switch to mac mode from bluetooth setting?
I just got this keyboard on amazing for %50 off so only around $45, amazing keyboard for that price imo
Why omit F-keys?
What in the world would you want a screen like that for?
The Steel Series Apex Pro has a much better, more useful screen imo. It's a dot-matrix LCD, not a full color OLED, but honestly, what good does having a super small, low res photo on your keyboard do? The screen should be used to change keyboard settings and actuation points, and display real time hardware monitoring info. And the Apex Pro is best in class in those areas. Plus, you can play snake directly on the keyboard.
What's a Jiff?
How does this compare to the Epomaker rt100 in terms of typing quality? The rt100 is $60 more expensive in my country but comes with sea salt silent switches. Not sure what I should get.
I wish they would make something more like the Logitech G510s even though it is a basic monochrome LCD, it is far more useful than that tiny color LCD display.
I wished Logitech made a mechanical G19s.... the screen was so useful for keeping an eye on system specs. Now using a Corsair K100, missed the system information screen so much I bought a 3.5inch system monitoring screen.
Very attractive keyboard. BUT !
No Func Keys
No Volume Knob
It's critical to me.
Now I can finally watch Oppenheimer in the way Nolan intended
What's the purpose of the tiny screen? I'm too 5 head to get the use case?
Is that ploufe with a Alienware aw3423dw?
I want to see your thoughts on the epomaker ajazz ak820pro
you need to check out Mirage modular keyboard prohect then
My only complaint is the top and bottom bezels are wasted real-estate. Could have easily just put macro keys or media control buttons there. If they ever either slim down the bezels, or add an extra row of keys/buttons(like the f row), I'd definitely buy one, even if it's $100.
The screen on the logitech G15 was awesome and way better implantation than this.
I've just realized why I dislike Plouffe as a host/reviewer; he's the type of customer that landed us in this "no headphone jacks, all displays have notches, no bezels allowed" phone caul-de-sac. Every time something is NOVEL to him, he slobbers all over it, regardless of how completely stupid or pointless it is, and before he can even come up with a use case for it he immediately says "I want this on EVERYTHING now!"
He's a great guy to have around when you need someone to give a positive take on a sponsored product that everyone else in the office immediately identifies as being dumb and useless, but now that I've recognized it, I'm just not going to watch any more Plouffe videos. His face in the thumbnail tells me everything I need to know about the product AND the video: it's too expensive and/or stupid for me to consider buying, and he's going to spend 5 to 11 minutes singing its praises because he loves The New Shiny
Nevermind about the keyboard. Did he really just call a gif for a jif?
@UnjustifiedRecs It's the season of jifting after all, I look forward to all my jifts at tree as well.
I know the 'inventor' tries to tell us this, but it stands for Graphic Interchange Format I don't say Jraphics ... @UnjustifiedRecs
IF the keyboard / mouse had fingerprint sensor, will the computer take it as inbuilt peripheral like in the laptop or it will be added as external peripheral?
I miss the time I was running my G15 and G19.
"You can upload jifs" What about gifs??
jif = JPEG Interchange Format
gif = Graphics Interchange Format
Those bezels are enormous, it doesn't look any smaller than my 80%
2:58 Nice
That creamy keyboard sound 😂
Would be nice if the firmware was opensource and the keyboard had a rp2040 for the display. If they maks everything opensource it allows awesome programmers/devs to program their own functions on the display or use the display to run doom
I have a small OLED display on my ROG Azoth 75%. I dont really understand the fuss over it. It does almost nothing. Shows battery life since its wireless, and I can see what percent the volume is when I change it. Thats about the only actual use. I have it display a pic of my cat otherwise.
quick question...are are jifs?
Plouffe is killing it today: 906 grams is less than 1 kilo and 86 USD is less than 90 USD! - you are SO right 😁🤪
Banana spacebar
The screen just looks off because it's not aligned with the edges of keys, like someone just had an idea and made a hole for a screen in a random place.
screens on a keyboard are a cool addition... not this screen, this one really felt like a decorative gimmick instead of maybe being over the Function keys like the Apple Touchbar
also no Professional Keyboard is bellow TKL, with an option to re-attach the numpad
I love my epomaker keyboard! None is comparable to that
I quite like the sound of it
Just saying my epomaker th80 with Black gatheron is the best tech buy i have ever done (and I have done a few), highly recommended
Really nice that you can upload Jifs.
My steelseries apex 7 pro (full size, but available tkl also) has an oled screen that i used to have random gifs on but now have it cycling my temps and stuff. Highly recommend it for reasonable price. BUT it's cherry blues if that's a deal breaker for you.
Also you can do gifs with the key RGB, but that's obviously very low resolution
I picked up that keyboard for 39.99$ which is a great price!
Where is the PGUP key?
I just have an egato stream deck beside my keyboard, more displays / buttons. More choice for the main keyboard.
Why, though? I would rather have actually useful features on my keyboard, rather than a shitty little pointless low res screen in an awkward spot.
On the bottom we have some screws and 4 rubber feet...
Oh thank you didn't see that
I feel like having a display on a keyboard is kind of useless.
I always wondered why keyboard manufacturers don't add fingerprint scanners to the keyboards so you can use that to log into desktops instead of using shitty passwords?
So it's a really expensive sticker. Got it.
Make every key a display
Petition for a mech board that has dedicated play pause next keys (also mechanical, not that rubber garbage) and a fingerprint reader
Yet another keyboard I can consider. Still leaning towards the RT100.
I ended up getting the RT100. Know a bit lower profile (and works for volume put of the box), and it has a number pad. Separate number pads are WAY too expensive for me to consider a keyboard without one.
What's a jif? Jraphic Interchange Format?
Can anyone recommend a Fullsized keyboard that has the same thunkiness feel and sound as this keyboard? (Does not have to be wireless or RGB).
I bought a mechanical keyboard off of Amazon for $100 that was similar to this. I was able to get it with red switches, and it had the little display on the side with the exact same options. However, the screen that I got on my keyboard wasn’t color. I actually had to complain because the switches that I got were not lubed properly. The seller ended up giving me $50 back so that I could buy what I needed to lube my own switches.
I wonder if screens on keyboards is going to be the new thing
It took me some time to register that you don't know how to write "lube", especially since the rest of the text seems spot on. Did you possibly dictate the text?
@@owlsteadtalk to text hates me. 😂
Keyboard for Pro without a Numpad and Fkeys, sure....
If Plouffe really likes displays on keyboards, he should get the Zoom75!
literally watching day of release... and it is not on sale on their website. $85.99
I like it but it could use a number pad. I'd like to use it at my IT job and post reminders on screen. Lol
Whilst they sell this in the UK via Amazon, it's not an ISO keyboard. That's a shame.
where the hell is page up?
Why is there a Page Down key, but no Page Up! I mean the geniuses bothered to put an Insert key but no Page Up. What even.
jiffs?
Lets count how many times he said "its not the end of the world"
The dream Display + Keyboard = I think its called a laptop
I'd prefer a numpad instead of the little screen. I don't really get this fashion of cropped mini keyboards. Maybe I'm just getting old.
Just wait till plouffe tries the FLUX keyboard
Now we need a keyboard with a stream deck, finger print scanner, a display, and maybe even speakers???
"Designed for professionals" so where is the freaking numpad? Never have I seen any professional who doesn't use a numpad unless it;s in some kind of hipster office or bring your own keyboard office
PLEASE STOP ALLOWING PRODUCTS TO SPONSOR THEIR OWN PRODUCT REVIEWS!