Now that the dust has settled a bit… I made this video because I was passionate about the topic after having seen the concert. I genuinely thought that because I covered anime, it would be my least viewed video and barely anyone would see it. I literally sent snaps to my friends with that exact sentiment. I wish they were texts so I could’ve shown that. But never, in a million years, did I expect it would get this much traction and this much hate. I naively believed that because I never criticize the girls themselves, just the misleading marketing around the concert, that kpop stans would not take offense to this video. I could not have been more wrong. I’m happy that the constructive comments have made it to the top, but I received more death threats, comments to “slit till I see bone,” comments cursing me to get sick and die, and more awful things overall in the two weeks of this video being published than my YEARS as a content creator. The fact that people are saying “I deserve it and worse” and are somehow trying to equate the valid criticisms of a CONCERT to the THREATS and SLURS that have been thrown at me is baffling, to say the least. As I’ve said in my previous comments, this video was originally meant to be a part of a video where I challenged myself to overcome my social anxiety by going to 5 kpop concerts by myself, because I truly do love kpop as a genre and many of its groups. The experience I had at the other four concerts was all wonderful, the people were super friendly, and I still would like to make that video. So I will. At some point. But obviously, having seen the ugly side to the online fandom, I’ll be taking a break from K-pop before I do that. Peace, love, and while most people say to stream sensitive, I personally think the “rhapsody in blue” sample in “Real World” makes it one of Loossemble’s coolest songs.
This is why I just listen to the music and stay away from kpop fans. They are weirdos. It's understandable to be confused about the subunits thing especially after the lawsuits making it more complex. I hope this doesn't deter you from enjoying k-pop music. Just remember that a lot of these fans are passionate young teens with a lot of free time on their hands.
Please dont make a mistake and talk about kpop here unless you want clout(in the form of hate) Thank you Bai Have a good day (Btw u were at a album showcase and every big loona fan knew it was a showcase because they researched)❤
@@SWAYNAMIyou literally said you thought you are seeing loona and loona has 12 members so… I mean considering the fact that you only knew 2 songs and you didn’t know about the whole situation that happened with them im sure you didn’t even knew how many members they have..
@@lizachannel770fair point but they didn’t use a new name and tagged the old account even with the 5 members it was called Loona assemble thinking it’s the full group makes sense
@@SWAYNAMIoh it 100% does! u always HAVE to do research on what ur buying.. if u dont ur dumb and its obvious your trying to make this girl group look bad by calling it a scam! i recommend you delete this UA-cam Video because twitter, insta, tiktok fans can get ahold of this and u dont wanna see what they have to say about this video,, PLEASE PLEASE do your research before doing stuff like this!
It’s unfair to compare odd eye circle to Loossemble because OEC was already an established unit loooooong before loossemble was formed. What could’ve been better maybe is that the 5 members could have performed some of their solos or b-sides and a full performance of hi high just a homage to them being loona members who redebuted. Also scam/trick isn’t a good description because other 4th gen groups did the same thing, nmixx, etc also did a showcase in the US but nobody’s complaining.
im sorry you were disappointed, not informed and you think you didn't get your money's worth but i personally think calling it an actual scam is a little clickbaity and misleading too
That’s the point you fucking dumbass, were you born and knew all about the group?? I didn’t think so. You have to take time to understand it. You fucking idiot
Yeah yeah, the group dont need New fans knowing their job, Hope this group have a bad ending, so this toxic fanbase vanishes from the internet, and stop supporting this disgusting kpop industry that mistreat the artists.
As someone who attended the concert, I disagree with you. I’ve been an Orbit for nearly 6 years and everyone whose been truly INTO LOONA would know how special this tour is. It’s not about the amount of songs played, it’s debut concert truly FOR the fans. I’m just grateful to know that they got out of that hellhole, were able to redebut, and release a perfect album that’s reminiscent of their past as well as has so many new sounds. If it’s not for you it’s not for you but don’t say it’s a scam and clickbait
I appreciate your insight on this! The entire thesis of the video is whether it’s a scam, so I’m not going to change the title, but thanks for giving thoughtful input on the video and your experience 🫡
@@SWAYNAMIposting this video is asking for 100 times worse things to happen around you and your family than when you receive the chain email and don't forward it to 10 people You will lose your job You will lose your house You will lose your mind You will cause an ice age You will fall into a sinkhole You will crawl out only to fall into a volcano That's it, nobody comes back from the volcano Rip
if you really thought that there will be 12 girls at the showcase than its your problem XD like how it would happen? theyre in different companies lol you just didnt know where youre going to and you have problem with that
why tf would u not do research on what you were going to go see.. this is a very rude review since you were just guessing things before you had gone?? just dont be like this man.. its weird
using the word "trick" at 11:24 is just weird too. the people at this concert should have known what they were going to, stop being so disrespectful because YOU didnt do enough research before u went to see a group in concert
@@pinyada4681 Or, and hear me out here, some people don't engulf themselves, in every damn aspect of a group. I, for one, listen to music and don't care about the rest. Goofball
@@jessicakeaton4120How tf you go to a concert of a group you don't know a single shit and then complain about it? is he bored, rich or jobless? it was his fault that gigant forehead coudn't research more
Nah. Not going to waste my time explaining why you're wrong. Already wasted my time watching it. Why even make this video? Really. Why waste your time?
I get where you're coming from but to be honest you cannot blame Loossemble or their management (to some extent) for the misinformation done by Ticket Master. They were making LOONA fans as confused as you are and it's the U.S venue management that also misinformed the fans while tagging the "loonatheworld" official account when it shouldn't have been that way. Also, Ticket Master were the ones who made the mistakes and CTD (Loossemble's management) should've known better and didn't choose them as the U.S promoter.
seriously, i cant imagine having that much money to throw around. privileged idiot complaining that he didn’t do the bare minimum and look up the group before buying a concert ticket.. lmfaoo
“i coudlnt have known that wahh wahh” i literally was in school all day and still knew all of the songs by the time i was there.. it’s not that hard! if ur paying money to see a debut.. then don’t get mad that it’s a DEBUT
"i feel bad for the orbits" for what? They knew exactly what they were coming for because they were actual fans of loona and Loossemble. Summing this video up, you're upset that you 1) went to a debut ceremony thinking it was a concert when it was never advertised as a concert and got mad about it 2) thought you were seeing ot12 loona when every promotional material showed ot5 loona aka loossemble and 3) got upset that a company not responsible for Loosembles advertising misled you. I feel the real problem is you went to a debut ceremony of a group you had 0 knowledge about and got upset when you didn't have any knowledge about it and tried to speak for everybody. I think the worst part about this is you streamed loona officially, could do 5 seconds of research to know that despite the separation of ot12 the boycott is still active
I agree that the ticket prices were insane for wats basically a debut showcase, orbits had an issue with this and ticket masters dynamics pricing since the actual company doesn’t control that. But as someone who’s a fan and attended, a lot of the other things you mentioned was easily accessible information. Like the official loossemble account advertising that the music would come out the same day as the show and the exact time, so a lot of ppl listened to the music beforehand. Which is easy to do since the show wasn’t til 7 and the music came out early. Why would you except all 12 girls if all promotional photos and venue posts only showed 5 girls and never hinted or advertised additional guests or a full 12 member show? The tour promo pics also say “Loossemble” in addition to the “Loona:Assemble” at the top so it’s pretty clear to me who I was seeing despite official sites only having LOONA listed. It’s also called a “us debut ceremony” so we knew it would be different from a typical concert. In regards to how fans felt, we never felt tricked or disappointed b/c we’ve been supporting these girls and wanted their first debut show to be great for them. Some of the people I was sitting next to actively DIDNT listen to the music so they could be surprised watching it live, and me and some girls would had listened were telling them how much they’re gonna love it because the music is so good! And when the show started the shock and excitement on their faces was just so much fun to see. I don’t wanna say ur not valid for wat u felt and experienced but It’s like I’m feeling whiplash right now cuz everyone in line knew who they were seeing and why, and was so excited trading photo cards and talking about what songs from the album they hoped had choreo and wat the 5 girls were gonna wear etc. To fans attending this first show in NY and experiencing the music for the first time together was something really special despite things like ticket sales or how many songs were performed, so to say we were scammed or feel bad for us just isn’t true
@@SWAYNAMI Tbh I hope u still make ur video about the other 5 shows u saw. I don’t completely agree with ur criticisms but I did see loossemble solo so I understand wat it feels like going to a show like this by yourself
One google search could have saved you from all this trouble. You're complaining in these commets talking about having to do research for an event YOU are paying and setting time aside for, when a simple google search not even a full out reserch project to know what this event was gonna be.
10:17 .... n u said u werent being rude in one of ur comments. considering this was a SHOWCASE. people were going to be quiet for the newer songs, pay more attention, take videos etc. THATS HOW U SHOW RESPECT??
I personally think charging $200 for a ticket for a “concert” where you play 6 songs is marginally more embarrassing (especially when OEC played LOONA songs and legally they could’ve played LOONA songs in the US)
@@SWAYNAMI not their fault you assumed it was a concert when every single piece of promotional material states DEBUT CEREMONY which = showcase. nobody performs songs from previous projects during an album showcase, you just lack reading comprehension😭
@@SWAYNAMIOEC is under a completely different company, whose CEO is one of the creatives behind the old songs that OEC played in the *concert* . That is a completely different situation to Loossemble doing a *debut ceremony/showcase* (something EXTREMELY common in kpop, mind you) under a company who has nothing to do with any of the past music's production. Being so grossly ignorant about kpop norms, and then expecting kpop entertainment companies to bend over backwards to hammer you over the head with simple explanations instead of doing research is the highest degree of embarrassing one could possibly hope to be. If I buy a random Mario game without looking at any information about it, I don't have the right to get pissy and call it a scam if it turns out to be an rpg instead of a 2D platformer.
@@SWAYNAMIleave oec outta this. They had a CONCERT tour. You yourself said ur just a casual fan and only know 2 songs from them so why would you care what oec did. Do you even know how many members are on oec? Like you don’t even know that even oec tour had promotional issues too. Also they had to alter their old songs to preform them. And finally if it cost that much money why wouldn’t you research about it? Like I don’t know, maybe know what you’re getting yourself into before you commit to spending that much money.
let me get this straigt, you are mad that you thought you will see o12 loona on a instagram post where where the user, CLEARLY says "Loossemble" and also on 8:02 bffr, the tracklist came out DAYS BEFORE THE CONCERT, why are you complaining about going to a concert of a group you dont know, dpmo💀 also saying "More talking than singing" is also DUMB, this is a DEBUT CEREMONY, also stop saying like you know orbits better than everyone else, you YOURSELF is not even an orbit and the big fans knew what was comming, also orbits brough their high bongs because they are still loona so like.....???? no one got "tricked" or stuff like that, people KNEW what they were going into, you on the other hand did NOT. dont try to act better and put them down, you are not better then them and you should seriously stop, and at 11:45 those people are also like you, just some people who are not orbits and just went into a concert uninformed, THE TRACKLIST CAME OUT DAYS BEFORE THE CONCERT. and also at the instagram post,EVERYWHERE, YOU COULD CLEARLY SEE THE OT5 MEMBER NAMES AND THE PICTURES ONLY HAVE 5 MEMBERS FROM O12 LOONA. dont put groups down because you and other people dont know the groups and are not real fans.
Don’t call it a scam when it’s literally your fault for going to a concert for someone who you don’t know anything about. If you would’ve been an orbit then you wouldn’t have been surprised about not it being a “loona concert”. + it was advertised as a debut ceremony and with the 5 loossemble members everywhere so.
bro shares pics of his tickets and emails showing five girls only and clearly saying debut ceremony, is baffled 7 more girls didnt appear and he didnt see a tour concert. Biggest brain
So you were upset because you didn't do your research? The advertising was admittedly misleading and the tour was *very* rushed and overpriced, but the posts clearly show it is a debut SHOWCASE for LOOSSEMBLE, not a concert for loona. This is why reading is fundamental, don't spend money on shit without researching. Your lack of knowledge on Loossemble is entirely your fault, considering not once was it advertised as a full loona concert and all promotional materials had the 5 loossemble members only. Surely you would have researched beforehand about the group you were going to see and why a group with 12 members only has 5 in each image. A showcase is typically done in korea, for the debut of a new album or single. It is not a concert, and CTDENM did a bad job of explaining that in the promotional materials.
brother you paid your hard earned money for these tickets and didnt make sure it was what you thought it was? its not a scam if youre entirely at fault, this shouldnt even be a question
Number one is your title is clickbait, and also with some context that they only recently finished suing for freedom in their contracts and the rights of the old songs were a little shaky,so with that they weren’t able to play their past songs and had to make their own songs. For you it may be a scam because there was no context or specifics in the advertising (going by what you said) however for other fans i feel they would have got what they wanted as they had most likely known the context and did their research (but it was most likely that they found it boring because of the concert itself, not the “false advertising”). But seeing the other comments say that the ads never outright lied but i see how it could be misleading if you did not do your research. (Im not actually a loona fan or loossemble fan i just saw one of your shorts saying how much hate you were getting and wanted to put my opinion in the mix, i did of course do my research for this comment but do please correct if im wrong)
umm, all of the promos and posters say loossemble AND the whole thing is called debut ceremony so i think you cant say they advertised it wrongly nor that they shouldve released the album before...
Who are you and what hole have you been in that you would assume you were going to see LOONA anywhere but in past videos as the group as a whole cannot exist physically. Loossemble literally stands for LOONA Assemble. Which is their name. You admit you didn’t even know who you were going to see, so why complain about not seeing what you thought you were going to see. This video seems to have no value but you letting the internet know you don’t care or know about the members. Thanks.
@am6rion I'm an orbit so I'm aware of what's going on. But I love new experiences, and I love the element of surprise. If I had enough money and time to go to concerts of people and group that I don't know I would take the opportunity. Yeah the name Loosemble was written at the bottom. But keep in mind it was written Loona everywhere on his purchases.
@retricallltann6243 Why would you doubt ticketmaster who's job is to sell what the client ( group, singer, etc) ask them sell. Everyone says ouin ouin, but he should have looked on other sources. He said that his objective was to go to concerts 5 that mouth. He saw tickets with the name Loona. That it
If you bought a ticket not knowing what you were going to and without doing any research on the current situation of the group then you can’t complain on what you get bro. I hope you’re not like this in your everyday life too smh
And you buying their merch and mentioning being one of the first people to see them live doesnt make a difference..snd dont make the mistake of comparing groups like you are doing with G -Idle.
I think you need to change the title of this video... I get that you probably just bought random tickets to make content for UA-cam, but the Loosemble's debut (after the BlockBerry fiasco) was something that all the LOONA fans were waiting for, so it's a bit upsetting that you're calling it a SCAM. And yes, all LOONA fans (and Loosemble fans, ARTMS fans, Chuu fans, YVES fans, etc) knew that the concert was a Showcase...hence the 'debut' part in the name, but anyway please consider changing the title 🙏 Ouh and a little heads up, don't do kpop related content just to get views, that will only make kpop fans angry since it's really easy to notice you don't have any interest in kpop. Just stick to anime 😀
The concert was not a scam. You just bought a ticket to see a group who you don’t follow enough to even know any details about what’s happened with their members. Clickbait title just to get everyone mad.
Let me put this to perspective he wants to try K-pop he does mostly main stream and he has listened to a couple old loons song so he gos oh ok then I can just go here and listen to some K-pop and I like the songs so I’m going to go here then he ends up going to a different concert and they talk most of it scams is the right way to put it
No clue who you are, never listened to Kpop myself, but I just looked at the comments section on your original video and it's clear you're trying to drum up controversy. Most of the comments were respectful and were pointing out that it was on you to do the proper research. You just want to continue acting like you got slighted cause that brings in views. Also you're hiding your like count, L.
They can only do 15 sec of hi high because the song is copyrighted by BlockBerry creative and not CTDE&M.... so u rather them getting sued and disband? ?💀💀 And also it's a debut ceremony, you know it.... so what are u expecting??💀💀
I agree with you when you say that the way the tour was marketed by locations were misleading, but anyone whos into kpop right now knows the whole BBC vs LOONA legal battle that has been going on since november of last year. This is not a confrontational comment as you are in your on right to say that you were 'scammed', but it's really surprising to see that you simply didn't know abt the LOONA situation since it has been heavely documented, notified and fans have been LOUD abt it - like, one could just google and see I also think that is kinda obvious that "debut ceremony" = album showcase - as in presenting the songs in the album and not an actual concert - I personally didn't think any different. The people who bought the concert tickets are LOONA fans who have been on their side against their old company. LOONA has been around for 6 years - people already know the members and their skills, personalities and talents. When the members won the lawsuit to cancel their contracts, fans were hoping to see the group re-debut in some way and Loosemble is them doing just that. They aren't going blindly to see a concert of a group they didn't know anything about - it's 5/12 of the group they ready know. Not to mention that the girls themselves have been hinting this new phase in their careers. Even if the fans expected them to sing their old songs, people have been expecting the new ones - they signed with a new company and they where talks about forming a "new" group that is more of an extention from the old one, there were numerous teasers, a mood sampler... what I mean to say is that there was hype and fans were exiceted! This situation is kinda funny cuz it if you where to get into LOONA, you'd have a lot of catching up to do, but it's understandable that it isn't what you'd expect as a casual listener. I will say tho, I did find it weird that it was a US debut ceremony, but I remebered that CTD is a new company and MODHAUS(the company that other LOONA members are signed with now) where having trouble promoting their artists due to 'conflicts with other companies'(probably BBC being petty - and we know they are) so maybe it was just the safest choice (and LOONA was always more popular internacionally too)
@SWAYNAMI i think you not a fan of Loona (Orbit), because you don't know that Loona members have problems with their old agency (BBC). And you should look for information first before buying tickets next time. 🙏🏻
the thing is you were so upset you made a video complaining about the same thing over and over when you shouldve just looked into the event further if you had gone into loonas recent history youd know that after their legal battles with their old pos company the 12 girls split off into 3 groups and 1 soloist and historically have a history of strong intl fame esp in the us as opposed to korea so it makes perfect sense theyd have a Debut Ceremony at msg(lol) which i get ticketmaster fucked u for that but again... you knew the official loona marketing told u different from ticketmaster and u pointed that out in the video but u did not Entirely connect the dots i guess
i would never spend so much money on something i knew nothing about nor something i’m not willing to do basic research on… but maybe that’s just my frugal, broke ass.
Now that the dust has settled a bit… I made this video because I was passionate about the topic after having seen the concert. I genuinely thought that because I covered anime, it would be my least viewed video and barely anyone would see it. I literally sent snaps to my friends with that exact sentiment. I wish they were texts so I could’ve shown that. But never, in a million years, did I expect it would get this much traction and this much hate.
I naively believed that because I never criticize the girls themselves, just the misleading marketing around the concert, that kpop stans would not take offense to this video.
I could not have been more wrong.
I’m happy that the constructive comments have made it to the top, but I received more death threats, comments to “slit till I see bone,” comments cursing me to get sick and die, and more awful things overall in the two weeks of this video being published than my YEARS as a content creator.
The fact that people are saying “I deserve it and worse” and are somehow trying to equate the valid criticisms of a CONCERT to the THREATS and SLURS that have been thrown at me is baffling, to say the least.
As I’ve said in my previous comments, this video was originally meant to be a part of a video where I challenged myself to overcome my social anxiety by going to 5 kpop concerts by myself, because I truly do love kpop as a genre and many of its groups. The experience I had at the other four concerts was all wonderful, the people were super friendly, and I still would like to make that video.
So I will. At some point.
But obviously, having seen the ugly side to the online fandom, I’ll be taking a break from K-pop before I do that.
Peace, love, and while most people say to stream sensitive, I personally think the “rhapsody in blue” sample in “Real World” makes it one of Loossemble’s coolest songs.
This is why I just listen to the music and stay away from kpop fans. They are weirdos. It's understandable to be confused about the subunits thing especially after the lawsuits making it more complex. I hope this doesn't deter you from enjoying k-pop music. Just remember that a lot of these fans are passionate young teens with a lot of free time on their hands.
STAN LOOSEMBLE
Thank you for leaving them alone finally. Hope you'll never talk about loona ever again.
Please dont make a mistake and talk about kpop here unless you want clout(in the form of hate)
Thank you
Bai
Have a good day
(Btw u were at a album showcase and every big loona fan knew it was a showcase because they researched)❤
@@meowateyourchips7417fr bruh,too much free time tbh
Saw 5 members on the tour poster repeatedly on Ticketmaster and emails and still thought u were gonna be seeing 12??? Hmm ok
Y’all are really gripping to the 12 thing when that’s not the point of the video if you watch it lol
@SWAYNAMI if you expected Loona as a full group is kinda obvious you should 12 of them
Is not
That
Hard
@@SWAYNAMIyou literally said you thought you are seeing loona and loona has 12 members so… I mean considering the fact that you only knew 2 songs and you didn’t know about the whole situation that happened with them im sure you didn’t even knew how many members they have..
@@lizachannel770fair point but they didn’t use a new name and tagged the old account even with the 5 members it was called Loona assemble thinking it’s the full group makes sense
So you did 0 research and then got mad when you didn't do any research??? And you didn't follow the boycott rules either?????
i didn't realize concerts came with homework
@SWAYNAMI I mean its kinda obvious considering there were 5 girls in the picture of the ticket you were paying for and loona is a 12 member group 🤧🤧
@@SWAYNAMI no one goes to a concert of a group they don't know about, if you go to a showcase of a group you should atleast know the fuck*ng group.
@@SWAYNAMIoh it 100% does! u always HAVE to do research on what ur buying.. if u dont ur dumb and its obvious your trying to make this girl group look bad by calling it a scam! i recommend you delete this UA-cam Video because twitter, insta, tiktok fans can get ahold of this and u dont wanna see what they have to say about this video,, PLEASE PLEASE do your research before doing stuff like this!
@@SWAYNAMIi typically do research on things i purchase. seems like the intelligent and responsible thing to do.
bro probably legally streams loona
Is giving actually
probably…
we can really tell you have no idea about loona
Yep was kinda the point
I was taught to speak when I know what I'm saying...maybe you should try that
@@SWAYNAMIso why go complaining about your own stupidity ? 😭
@@SWAYNAMI then why going to a ceremony that was made for fans?
@@SWAYNAMI Why are you calling it a scam and complaining about it then?
It’s unfair to compare odd eye circle to Loossemble because OEC was already an established unit loooooong before loossemble was formed. What could’ve been better maybe is that the 5 members could have performed some of their solos or b-sides and a full performance of hi high just a homage to them being loona members who redebuted. Also scam/trick isn’t a good description because other 4th gen groups did the same thing, nmixx, etc also did a showcase in the US but nobody’s complaining.
its a debut showcase
im sorry you were disappointed, not informed and you think you didn't get your money's worth but i personally think calling it an actual scam is a little clickbaity and misleading too
And he got jumped for it.
He knows using "scam" will get him outrage engagement. It worked on all of us, that's why we're all here writing comments lmao
@@legalizemarinara yes. That way, he gets his views while we jump at him nonstop. Win-win.
@@tehnoobestgamer as he should
I’m not sorry he was disappointed and I will be praying that the rest of his entire nasty life is full of disappointment
its literally just a debut showcase tour but in the us instead of korea.. if you didnt know what you were getting yourself into, then dont.
Tell hav Ever read terms and conditions?
it is not ctdent's fault that you cannot read or count.
12 is a big number to be fair
thanks for giving our girls money, next time maybe dont go to see a group u know nothing about
PURRRR 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
i knew "why not"
That’s the point you fucking dumbass, were you born and knew all about the group?? I didn’t think so. You have to take time to understand it. You fucking idiot
@@SWAYNAMIa 3 year old song? lol
Yeah yeah, the group dont need New fans knowing their job, Hope this group have a bad ending, so this toxic fanbase vanishes from the internet, and stop supporting this disgusting kpop industry that mistreat the artists.
As someone who attended the concert, I disagree with you. I’ve been an Orbit for nearly 6 years and everyone whose been truly INTO LOONA would know how special this tour is. It’s not about the amount of songs played, it’s debut concert truly FOR the fans. I’m just grateful to know that they got out of that hellhole, were able to redebut, and release a perfect album that’s reminiscent of their past as well as has so many new sounds. If it’s not for you it’s not for you but don’t say it’s a scam and clickbait
I appreciate your insight on this! The entire thesis of the video is whether it’s a scam, so I’m not going to change the title, but thanks for giving thoughtful input on the video and your experience 🫡
@@SWAYNAMIif your video is about investigating whether or not it is a scam, then the title itself is misleading by outright calling it a scam.
@@SWAYNAMIyou need to get off the internet and get a real job.
@@SWAYNAMIso ur clickbaiting… stick to anime plz! :3
@@SWAYNAMIposting this video is asking for 100 times worse things to happen around you and your family than when you receive the chain email and don't forward it to 10 people
You will lose your job
You will lose your house
You will lose your mind
You will cause an ice age
You will fall into a sinkhole
You will crawl out only to fall into a volcano
That's it, nobody comes back from the volcano
Rip
so basically you did 0 research and paid for a concert knowing that
And just like that
@@SWAYNAMI do you buy things without research and then feel scammed when it's not what you thought? Sounds like your stupid.
@@SWAYNAMIthey dont, they require a minimum understanding about what your paying to watch. dummy
EXACTLY
hahahahhas
The human stupidity has no limits
Man, you couldn't even ASK someone who works in there?
He barely can find lines. Imagine alone know the artist you're going to
just yapping about a whole lot of nothing
like every kpop fandom ever
if you really thought that there will be 12 girls at the showcase than its your problem XD like how it would happen? theyre in different companies lol you just didnt know where youre going to and you have problem with that
why tf would u not do research on what you were going to go see.. this is a very rude review since you were just guessing things before you had gone?? just dont be like this man.. its weird
using the word "trick" at 11:24 is just weird too. the people at this concert should have known what they were going to, stop being so disrespectful because YOU didnt do enough research before u went to see a group in concert
You had to be living under a rock to not know LOONA was going through a lawsuit battle and split into small groups. Play dumb games get dumb prizes
Or, not everyone's life, is lead by kpop news...
@@ScoobySnacks7 if your gonna go to a concert for "loona" and not know that they are in lawsuit sound really dumb lol
you make Kpop fans looks crazy
@@pinyada4681 Or, and hear me out here, some people don't engulf themselves, in every damn aspect of a group. I, for one, listen to music and don't care about the rest. Goofball
@ScoobySnacks7 there's no way that you kept up w loona enough to know about this tour but not enough to know about the legal situation
There is a "delete video" option for a reason
you kinda ate with this one...
You 8 that ngl…(this video should be deleted)
FACTS
There is a option to leave the video
@@brunobru7083yep
this video has ''stupid'' written all over it
i prefer the term swaynami charm
Just like your acc
@@SWAYNAMInobody else does 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@@honeyheartsxoxoso what?
k-pop fans are crazy ngl
The fact that you didn't know the group was disbanded... This sounds like you just failed to do the research. And also like you live under a rock.
How was he living under a rock, the group wasn’t popular at all… your just an asshole with no life. Go touch grass
@@jessicakeaton4120How tf you go to a concert of a group you don't know a single shit and then complain about it? is he bored, rich or jobless? it was his fault that gigant forehead coudn't research more
People forget that OP didn't nlame the girls at anypoint.
Its entirely marketing fault.
And yes he didnt do any research. That was his point. 😮
clueless is your problem
I thought that was a fine movie
@@SWAYNAMI yeah I bet you did, NPC.
Nah. Not going to waste my time explaining why you're wrong. Already wasted my time watching it. Why even make this video? Really. Why waste your time?
I get where you're coming from but to be honest you cannot blame Loossemble or their management (to some extent) for the misinformation done by Ticket Master. They were making LOONA fans as confused as you are and it's the U.S venue management that also misinformed the fans while tagging the "loonatheworld" official account when it shouldn't have been that way.
Also, Ticket Master were the ones who made the mistakes and CTD (Loossemble's management) should've known better and didn't choose them as the U.S promoter.
why the hell would you buy tickets if you don’t even know the slightest thing about the group? let alone the fact that they split up months ago? IJBOL
seriously, i cant imagine having that much money to throw around. privileged idiot complaining that he didn’t do the bare minimum and look up the group before buying a concert ticket.. lmfaoo
“i coudlnt have known that wahh wahh” i literally was in school all day and still knew all of the songs by the time i was there.. it’s not that hard! if ur paying money to see a debut.. then don’t get mad that it’s a DEBUT
"i feel bad for the orbits" for what? They knew exactly what they were coming for because they were actual fans of loona and Loossemble. Summing this video up, you're upset that you 1) went to a debut ceremony thinking it was a concert when it was never advertised as a concert and got mad about it 2) thought you were seeing ot12 loona when every promotional material showed ot5 loona aka loossemble and 3) got upset that a company not responsible for Loosembles advertising misled you.
I feel the real problem is you went to a debut ceremony of a group you had 0 knowledge about and got upset when you didn't have any knowledge about it and tried to speak for everybody. I think the worst part about this is you streamed loona officially, could do 5 seconds of research to know that despite the separation of ot12 the boycott is still active
He would go to a rock concert and complain about moshpits
@Senju618 that's funny cause i could not care any less about boygroups
now why would you trust ticket master and not the official sorce
no one aside you was dissapointed like stfu...
Plenty of people I talked to were. But if you enjoyed it and had a great time I’m happy for you!
The other 7 billion people: 😑😑😑
kpop fans need to stfu, yall yap about a group of girls who dont give a rats ass about you on some real shit
you made a 13 minute rant over something that's your fault 😭
I agree that the ticket prices were insane for wats basically a debut showcase, orbits had an issue with this and ticket masters dynamics pricing since the actual company doesn’t control that.
But as someone who’s a fan and attended, a lot of the other things you mentioned was easily accessible information. Like the official loossemble account advertising that the music would come out the same day as the show and the exact time, so a lot of ppl listened to the music beforehand. Which is easy to do since the show wasn’t til 7 and the music came out early. Why would you except all 12 girls if all promotional photos and venue posts only showed 5 girls and never hinted or advertised additional guests or a full 12 member show? The tour promo pics also say “Loossemble” in addition to the “Loona:Assemble” at the top so it’s pretty clear to me who I was seeing despite official sites only having LOONA listed. It’s also called a “us debut ceremony” so we knew it would be different from a typical concert.
In regards to how fans felt, we never felt tricked or disappointed b/c we’ve been supporting these girls and wanted their first debut show to be great for them. Some of the people I was sitting next to actively DIDNT listen to the music so they could be surprised watching it live, and me and some girls would had listened were telling them how much they’re gonna love it because the music is so good! And when the show started the shock and excitement on their faces was just so much fun to see.
I don’t wanna say ur not valid for wat u felt and experienced but It’s like I’m feeling whiplash right now cuz everyone in line knew who they were seeing and why, and was so excited trading photo cards and talking about what songs from the album they hoped had choreo and wat the 5 girls were gonna wear etc. To fans attending this first show in NY and experiencing the music for the first time together was something really special despite things like ticket sales or how many songs were performed, so to say we were scammed or feel bad for us just isn’t true
appreciate the feedback!
@@SWAYNAMIappreciate the feedback and stop making clickbait UA-cam videos. Go get a real job weirdo.
@@SWAYNAMI Tbh I hope u still make ur video about the other 5 shows u saw. I don’t completely agree with ur criticisms but I did see loossemble solo so I understand wat it feels like going to a show like this by yourself
One google search could have saved you from all this trouble. You're complaining in these commets talking about having to do research for an event YOU are paying and setting time aside for, when a simple google search not even a full out reserch project to know what this event was gonna be.
mine you the ticketmaster page only has 5 members and it’s called “US debut ceramony”
Dude had no cloo
AAAH IJBOL
I love how everyone is mad 💀🔥
Facts bro, like honestly no one gives a fuck about k-pop💀
@@Grim_Reaper305why are you here bro
Fr ☕💀🔥
@@Grim_Reaper305then why u here😹⁉️⁉️⁉️
10:17 .... n u said u werent being rude in one of ur comments. considering this was a SHOWCASE. people were going to be quiet for the newer songs, pay more attention, take videos etc. THATS HOW U SHOW RESPECT??
this is so embarrasing
I personally think charging $200 for a ticket for a “concert” where you play 6 songs is marginally more embarrassing (especially when OEC played LOONA songs and legally they could’ve played LOONA songs in the US)
@@SWAYNAMI not their fault you assumed it was a concert when every single piece of promotional material states DEBUT CEREMONY which = showcase. nobody performs songs from previous projects during an album showcase, you just lack reading comprehension😭
@@SWAYNAMIand it’s your fault for paying for it dumbass
@@SWAYNAMIOEC is under a completely different company, whose CEO is one of the creatives behind the old songs that OEC played in the *concert* . That is a completely different situation to Loossemble doing a *debut ceremony/showcase* (something EXTREMELY common in kpop, mind you) under a company who has nothing to do with any of the past music's production.
Being so grossly ignorant about kpop norms, and then expecting kpop entertainment companies to bend over backwards to hammer you over the head with simple explanations instead of doing research is the highest degree of embarrassing one could possibly hope to be.
If I buy a random Mario game without looking at any information about it, I don't have the right to get pissy and call it a scam if it turns out to be an rpg instead of a 2D platformer.
@@SWAYNAMIleave oec outta this. They had a CONCERT tour. You yourself said ur just a casual fan and only know 2 songs from them so why would you care what oec did. Do you even know how many members are on oec? Like you don’t even know that even oec tour had promotional issues too. Also they had to alter their old songs to preform them. And finally if it cost that much money why wouldn’t you research about it? Like I don’t know, maybe know what you’re getting yourself into before you commit to spending that much money.
let me get this straigt, you are mad that you thought you will see o12 loona on a instagram post where where the user, CLEARLY says "Loossemble" and also on 8:02 bffr, the tracklist came out DAYS BEFORE THE CONCERT, why are you complaining about going to a concert of a group you dont know, dpmo💀 also saying "More talking than singing" is also DUMB, this is a DEBUT CEREMONY, also stop saying like you know orbits better than everyone else, you YOURSELF is not even an orbit and the big fans knew what was comming, also orbits brough their high bongs because they are still loona so like.....???? no one got "tricked" or stuff like that, people KNEW what they were going into, you on the other hand did NOT. dont try to act better and put them down, you are not better then them and you should seriously stop, and at 11:45 those people are also like you, just some people who are not orbits and just went into a concert uninformed, THE TRACKLIST CAME OUT DAYS BEFORE THE CONCERT. and also at the instagram post,EVERYWHERE, YOU COULD CLEARLY SEE THE OT5 MEMBER NAMES AND THE PICTURES ONLY HAVE 5 MEMBERS FROM O12 LOONA. dont put groups down because you and other people dont know the groups and are not real fans.
Don’t call it a scam when it’s literally your fault for going to a concert for someone who you don’t know anything about. If you would’ve been an orbit then you wouldn’t have been surprised about not it being a “loona concert”. + it was advertised as a debut ceremony and with the 5 loossemble members everywhere so.
men should not even be allowed to look at loona's direction
Your entitlement is showing thru that receding hairline
bro shares pics of his tickets and emails showing five girls only and clearly saying debut ceremony, is baffled 7 more girls didnt appear and he didnt see a tour concert. Biggest brain
maybe you should’ve stayed home idk
As he should've 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
Atleast he have a home. Your only home is twitter(X)
It was A " Debut Ceremony " it was clearly posted at the advertisement 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
ain't no way 😭
So you were upset because you didn't do your research? The advertising was admittedly misleading and the tour was *very* rushed and overpriced, but the posts clearly show it is a debut SHOWCASE for LOOSSEMBLE, not a concert for loona. This is why reading is fundamental, don't spend money on shit without researching.
Your lack of knowledge on Loossemble is entirely your fault, considering not once was it advertised as a full loona concert and all promotional materials had the 5 loossemble members only. Surely you would have researched beforehand about the group you were going to see and why a group with 12 members only has 5 in each image.
A showcase is typically done in korea, for the debut of a new album or single. It is not a concert, and CTDENM did a bad job of explaining that in the promotional materials.
key why es
why were you entertained hearing how sad us orbits were when all the bad stuff happened 😭
Bro chose the worst time to do this and is suppressed he's getting hated for it💀
brother you paid your hard earned money for these tickets and didnt make sure it was what you thought it was? its not a scam if youre entirely at fault, this shouldnt even be a question
Number one is your title is clickbait, and also with some context that they only recently finished suing for freedom in their contracts and the rights of the old songs were a little shaky,so with that they weren’t able to play their past songs and had to make their own songs. For you it may be a scam because there was no context or specifics in the advertising (going by what you said) however for other fans i feel they would have got what they wanted as they had most likely known the context and did their research (but it was most likely that they found it boring because of the concert itself, not the “false advertising”). But seeing the other comments say that the ads never outright lied but i see how it could be misleading if you did not do your research. (Im not actually a loona fan or loossemble fan i just saw one of your shorts saying how much hate you were getting and wanted to put my opinion in the mix, i did of course do my research for this comment but do please correct if im wrong)
umm, all of the promos and posters say loossemble AND the whole thing is called debut ceremony so i think you cant say they advertised it wrongly nor that they shouldve released the album before...
literally all of the pictures youve shown only had the same 5 members 💀 if that wasn’t enough for you to connect the dots then idk
However much hate you get for this, you deserve more
Based
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No hate is deserved unless it’s something terribly bad
@@johnb5379 Truee
RT
Who are you and what hole have you been in that you would assume you were going to see LOONA anywhere but in past videos as the group as a whole cannot exist physically.
Loossemble literally stands for LOONA Assemble. Which is their name.
You admit you didn’t even know who you were going to see, so why complain about not seeing what you thought you were going to see. This video seems to have no value but you letting the internet know you don’t care or know about the members. Thanks.
Jumping off a cliff is still on the table you know.
Damn, suicide comments for a L take about kpop? Youre Crazy? Gross
Dont worry, cause he will never will.
I bet u still stream legally
Now I’m truly scared of k-pop fandoms…the comments are crazy💀
I have seen more crasier comment 💀💀
It's a debut showcase... NOT a concert 😶😶😶
I can't imagine being so proud of my own ignorance that I'd make a UA-cam video pointing it out to everyone. 🤣
stay mad kpop loser 😂
anyways stream sensitive
You got scamed by american marketing 😢
Normaly ( hopefully ) fans of loona's girls were aware of whats going on. And what debut showcase/ceremony 😭
he didn’t get scammed.. he didn’t do even a SECOND of research before spending money to see them in concert.
@@am6rion not even research, it LITERALLY SAYS Loossemble in the poster bottom LMAO
@am6rion
I'm an orbit so I'm aware of what's going on.
But I love new experiences, and I love the element of surprise.
If I had enough money and time to go to concerts of people and group that I don't know I would take the opportunity.
Yeah the name Loosemble was written at the bottom. But keep in mind it was written Loona everywhere on his purchases.
@retricallltann6243 Why would you doubt ticketmaster who's job is to sell what the client ( group, singer, etc) ask them sell.
Everyone says ouin ouin, but he should have looked on other sources. He said that his objective was to go to concerts 5 that mouth.
He saw tickets with the name Loona. That it
@@brume8637 the group name is loona assemble, so...
If you bought a ticket not knowing what you were going to and without doing any research on the current situation of the group then you can’t complain on what you get bro. I hope you’re not like this in your everyday life too smh
don’t piss me off 🙄
GRRRRR IM SO ANGY
Why is there so many kpop mfs hating like? Can you go outside and actually like do something with your life God.
please take this video down I'm so embarassed for you 😭😭
The comments are lit though
Can't expect anything from a millennial with a cartoon profile pic
Ouch
STAN LOOSEMBLE
Stan Chuu
Stan Yves
Stan ARTMS
Stan Loossemble
Not the cake pop fans mad . Like y’all… calm down , he isn’t even hating. Also yall make the popes you “Stan” look bad 😭🙏
I still wonder what a people who buy ticket to concerts that you don’t know them ? …..
How the fuck do you think the group gain New fans? Or you want them to not grow?
And you buying their merch and mentioning being one of the first people to see them live doesnt make a difference..snd dont make the mistake of comparing groups like you are doing with G -Idle.
"I know SOME LOONA songs...Paint The Town...and...Why Not....yeah" dude you can't be serious about this? 😂
There literally 5 girls on pic... like?
average weeb
Avarage kpop fan
peanut brain
Just saw your short. The fandom is crazy. Sorry about all this even though i’m not apart of it. And never will be.😂😂😂😂
I think you need to change the title of this video... I get that you probably just bought random tickets to make content for UA-cam, but the Loosemble's debut (after the BlockBerry fiasco) was something that all the LOONA fans were waiting for, so it's a bit upsetting that you're calling it a SCAM.
And yes, all LOONA fans (and Loosemble fans, ARTMS fans, Chuu fans, YVES fans, etc) knew that the concert was a Showcase...hence the 'debut' part in the name, but anyway please consider changing the title 🙏
Ouh and a little heads up, don't do kpop related content just to get views, that will only make kpop fans angry since it's really easy to notice you don't have any interest in kpop. Just stick to anime 😀
The concert was not a scam. You just bought a ticket to see a group who you don’t follow enough to even know any details about what’s happened with their members. Clickbait title just to get everyone mad.
Alr then read terms and conditions
Let me put this to perspective he wants to try K-pop he does mostly main stream and he has listened to a couple old loons song so he gos oh ok then I can just go here and listen to some K-pop and I like the songs so I’m going to go here then he ends up going to a different concert and they talk most of it scams is the right way to put it
No clue who you are, never listened to Kpop myself, but I just looked at the comments section on your original video and it's clear you're trying to drum up controversy. Most of the comments were respectful and were pointing out that it was on you to do the proper research. You just want to continue acting like you got slighted cause that brings in views. Also you're hiding your like count, L.
....the only man in the audience who had no idea what he purchased
Did I just witness a "Dead Dove: Do Not Eat" happening in real life??
didnt u do any kind of research?? did u fr think they would have done the debut ceremony as 12?😭js say u went there for no reason at all,
thanks for giving your money to the girls tho #stanloona
Use the new name not the old one the tricked him with
cringe
get a job
grown male kpop fans are so weird
This feels like it’s a YOU problem
MAN DO YOU KNOW WHAT DEBUT CEREMONY MEAN?! ALSO TO KNOW LOOSSEMBLE IS 5 MEMBERS TAKES LIKE 2MIN RESEARCH
GET A JOB. STAY AWAY FROM THEM.
They can only do 15 sec of hi high because the song is copyrighted by BlockBerry creative and not CTDE&M.... so u rather them getting sued and disband? ?💀💀
And also it's a debut ceremony, you know it.... so what are u expecting??💀💀
how ‘bout you stream loossemble’s comeback ???? 😁😁
u talk like u, yourself is an anime..this is real life.
His entire comment section be like (🤓um actually you do 0 research 🤓)
Why are people so mad💀 its not that deep
I agree with you when you say that the way the tour was marketed by locations were misleading, but anyone whos into kpop right now knows the whole BBC vs LOONA legal battle that has been going on since november of last year.
This is not a confrontational comment as you are in your on right to say that you were 'scammed', but it's really surprising to see that you simply didn't know abt the LOONA situation since it has been heavely documented, notified and fans have been LOUD abt it - like, one could just google and see
I also think that is kinda obvious that "debut ceremony" = album showcase - as in presenting the songs in the album and not an actual concert - I personally didn't think any different.
The people who bought the concert tickets are LOONA fans who have been on their side against their old company. LOONA has been around for 6 years - people already know the members and their skills, personalities and talents.
When the members won the lawsuit to cancel their contracts, fans were hoping to see the group re-debut in some way and Loosemble is them doing just that. They aren't going blindly to see a concert of a group they didn't know anything about - it's 5/12 of the group they ready know. Not to mention that the girls themselves have been hinting this new phase in their careers.
Even if the fans expected them to sing their old songs, people have been expecting the new ones - they signed with a new company and they where talks about forming a "new" group that is more of an extention from the old one, there were numerous teasers, a mood sampler... what I mean to say is that there was hype and fans were exiceted!
This situation is kinda funny cuz it if you where to get into LOONA, you'd have a lot of catching up to do, but it's understandable that it isn't what you'd expect as a casual listener.
I will say tho, I did find it weird that it was a US debut ceremony, but I remebered that CTD is a new company and MODHAUS(the company that other LOONA members are signed with now) where having trouble promoting their artists due to 'conflicts with other companies'(probably BBC being petty - and we know they are) so maybe it was just the safest choice (and LOONA was always more popular internacionally too)
LOONA fans are famous for being.. loud. Hope you're not having too much of a hard time with the comments - it's just a very messy time for the fandom
just delete this video dawg
change your title. it’s not a scam if you failed to do any sort of research on what a debut ceremony is.
He’s not wrong
@SWAYNAMI i think you not a fan of Loona (Orbit), because you don't know that Loona members have problems with their old agency (BBC).
And you should look for information first before buying tickets next time. 🙏🏻
the thing is you were so upset you made a video complaining about the same thing over and over when you shouldve just looked into the event further if you had gone into loonas recent history youd know that after their legal battles with their old pos company the 12 girls split off into 3 groups and 1 soloist and historically have a history of strong intl fame esp in the us as opposed to korea so it makes perfect sense theyd have a Debut Ceremony at msg(lol) which i get ticketmaster fucked u for that but again... you knew the official loona marketing told u different from ticketmaster and u pointed that out in the video but u did not Entirely connect the dots i guess
i would never spend so much money on something i knew nothing about nor something i’m not willing to do basic research on… but maybe that’s just my frugal, broke ass.