85 km/h EUC with Suspension - BEGODE MASTER REVIEW
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They need to stop trying to make the fastest EUC and start focusing on the performance of safety, comfort, and many other issues.
Performance sells, because it's always a race about who's got the bigger thing.
It's a male habit... You know..
well inmotion is trying to do all at once with the challenger. Hope they don't fail, like the S20
I've got to agree here. Yeah being fast on a compact PEV like this is super dope but not entirely ideal given the build quality lately... 😒
Not fast but powerful.. people seem to not understand this point
Im fine with fastest
Got it👍 The tire is a “Michelin City Pro 80/90-14”. Thanks for mentioning it in the video.
Dude.. your edits are sick. You put so much work into this and it shows. Thank you!
you can tell he likes his work
I really really enjoyed the format of this video. Quick and to the point with more of the monotonous info in other videos. Exactly what I was looking for in a review. Some of the older review videos were way to long and dry.
Very happy you like the new more compact format!
I always see euc as a perfect solution to commute that you can mix with train, tram and bus. I know there is plenty old wheels that are still perfectly fine but I still wait for a new wheel from this middle category.
this is middle for eucs? damn compared to scooters they are beasts
@@ProPrince No the reviewed wheel is top of the line, op is talking about wanting companies to start making wheels in the middleground again, because they're all so focused on biggest and fastest
@@acidead7904 lots of middleground new wheels. Only problem is EUCs are banned on public transport in quite a few places due to fire incidents.
Thank you for the very honest review. The future for EUCs is very bright and think manufacturers will continue to improve their products especially when there is good and honest communication between them and their customers.
Translation never is clear. Needs a video in Chinese then we got it
Thank you for reviewing my new wheel that should be arriving soon! I am very excited to ride again.
Your reviews are always honest, and for that, much appreciated!
The easy tire change is a great feature. The job on a V11 is from hell. At least the first time I did it, it was.
I'm wondering how you get the tire through the wires without removing them from the board.
@@emp29 Presumably the wires only use one side of the shaft?
My S18 seems to have come loose at the shaft. Massively lame that I cannot remove the wheel without removing everything else.
@@Uberwald93 yeah you're right! I didn't think of that.
Great review Adam! Can't wait for your to get the chance to review the V13 and T4.
4:30 probably one of the best euc shots I've seen. Straight from the video game
Just one of the reasons to really be careful on one of these 6:29 thank you for actually showing what can happen great information very considerate of you to make such a video that lets anyone thinking of getting one all they need to know much respect to you for this .
Yep. You concluded it best... It's a Begode. Have all the performance you want but if you or someone else gets hurt due to Begode's long history of negligence then that's on you. We riders just keep rewarding their lack of accountability. Ride hard. Ride safe.
your way outta date friend. Begode has massively improved safety over the past couple years
@@greenwave819 you obviously haven’t been watching any tear down vids then huh friend? Look if Begode works for you then by all means… I personally ain’t touching a Begode wheel with a barge pole. They may have used more metal parts but the engineering under the hood still reeks of negligence.
@@greenwave819 how about when Murlands nickle strips melted on the battery causing him to cut out.?
I really love your hinest reviews on all of your content. You could very easily when getting payments for the reviews say that they are the best your have ever ridden but you tell like it is and it keeps riders safe and it will make manufacturers listen and change thier design.
I don’t get paid for the reviews ☺️ thanks! Appreciate your comment!
@@mr_wrongway I thought that's what you meant by kickbacks. Sorry. I still love your honesty though. It's helped me decided on an euc. I'm going to be getting a kingsong 16s soon
Great review Adam! A lot of folks here in the SF area are getting and really enjoying their Masters but I haven't seen one since that battery just won't last on a typical group ride around here. Begode seems to be rallying around this new suspension family of wheels, especially with the announcement of the T4. I take the cutouts of the Master with a grain of salt...all wheels can cut out when pushed beyond the limits and with the Master, I don't think it'll cutout if you play by the rules, unlike other new wheels (names redacted) that can unexpectedly cutout under very normal riding conditions. Looking forward to the next video!
Got myself a master! Very excited. Thank you for the review
how is it holding up so far?
I really like your videos Adam, because of them and some other youtubers videos, nowadays i ride EUC's. 1yr and already 4K km done (ks 16s). i have the S22 on its way. I hope you can do a review of the production model of the KingSong S22 as they have changed several things.
Good on you Mr Wrong way stay onto the safety. Lets ride tomorrow to.
I wanted a EUC so much, but here in Brazil it is almost impossible to buy one due to the price, I hope that one day I can buy one, great video.
Oi td bem ? Sou de uruguay e vou viajar para brasil daqui un pouco vender dois euc em julho, tenho um kingsong 18XL quase novo com so 1500km de vc estivesse interesado me responde
Must admit it looked so cool when you trundled up those stairs my V12 has no chance of doing that
is the v12 not equipped to do that?
@@42sonja it doesn’t have suspension which helps a lot on steps.
@@42sonja V12 HT was built for this, not the regular V12 HS.
Climbing stairs requires a large diameter wheel. V12 is 17", while Master is 20".
@@ProstyChlopiec no, doesn't matter what size of EUC wheel you have, Climbing stairs requires SKILL.
Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏
I love this wheel and yes it scares me that it’s a Begode but it’s amazing to ride. (See you at Amped Adam)
yay, my Begode Master arriving tomorrow, finally i can take a break from my inmotion V12, it is killing my knees.
Great Review. Thanks for that
Got a V12HT already and its pretty awesome. It would be the perfect wheel with some suspension and 64 pounds. Should have my Begode Master and a Surron X in about a month. Excited to go on rides with a friend on my Surron and me on the Master!
Good foot-cam video, Adam; do some more of that.
Thanks! I am really proud of this one!
Thanks to Ewheels for sending the wheels in for breaking! 😃
Gotta ❤ those comfy rides.
This wheel is not for me but it was interesting to watch your review. I hope v13 can provide similar performance with higher safety and reliability.
Sure, Nomotion will provide the safety :D
@@TheDownloader86 do u work for begode? I love my inmotion v11 and v8. Very reliable.
@@360vroomers No, but I had V8F, it broke after 560 km. I know about many broken V8F's. And do not forget about V12 problems and bad mosfets also in some batches of V11. Begode wheels are more reliable. I never had a problem with my Tesla T3 :-). But I am not crazy fanboy, now I have V12 HT and the wheel works fine, but have many bugs. Inmotion makes crazy complicated wheels, but QC is bad.... Begode makes simple wheels which just works :-).
@@TheDownloader86 +1 more dead motherboard on V8F where simple mosfet and fuse swap didn't fully fix it.
V13 I heard is going to weigh 110lbs. This is too heavy. My V12HT is 64 pounds and would be a perfect wheel if it had some suspension.
Lets just wait for v13 and hopefully get a wheel that doesnt compromise safety for performance
You've already got in the Master. Gotway is gone, Begode = best safety on the market. Check stats from companies that repair/ do warranty work on EUC. Begode wheels are the least problematic. Welcome to 2022, you can thank me now
@@greenwave819
I own three "Begode" wheels, mainly because I want performance which the other companies have been lacking for years.
But with the recent competition which has started with Kingsong S20, Inmotion is also stepping up their game. Mainly begode wheels have less problems after-sale because they don't have any internal complexity and they dont try to implement safety features such as smart BMS, multiple temperature sensors, reduntant parts, etc.
We all know if any other company would reach the same level of performance as Begode, their sale numbers will go down drastically. And still because there is no competition, they are not fixing their shitty firmware and stop using the same cheap parts over and over again.
I am willing to give inmotion another chance after their failed attempt with v12,
so thank you (:
Mate, that 45 Deg is insane.
Put more air in your shock I have mine at 400psi used a rockshox pump from Amazon can go to 600psi(not recommended on stock shock)
Awesome review.
It's always interesting to listen to and watch your videos. I've been riding scooters for coming on 10 years and stumbled upon your channel and couldn't stop watching. Think I've gone through almost your entire 111 video EUC playlist in two weeks and I'm really getting interessted in getting a wheel instead of a scooter for my next PEV. Problem is I don't know where to start. I know that's not what this video is about but would like to know what you consider would be a nice starter wheel that I can grow into. I mostly ride gravel forest trail and on asphalt it's down to the store so I've been checking on KingSong 16X and lately the InMotion V12, would those be good starters or are they to advanced?
Regards Daniel
The V12 is faster than the 16X. Both are great wheels. I recently came across this very good information and learning video. ua-cam.com/video/UHrh5Kk9x98/v-deo.html I’d suggest watching a few ‘how-tos’ and then decide if you’re a quick learner or not. Having a grassy area to practice in is really important as you won’t damage the wheel when you drop it. The slight roughness of terrain is a good thing as it forces you to react and correct the movement of the wheel. If you’re an ‘aggressive’ or highly focused learner, you could be ok with these wheels.
Appreciate the short s22 comparison, would you be willing to do a video comparing the two and your experiences with both? Between those two and the v13 I’m not sure what to upgrade to.
Thank you for this review. In the future when you say something in metric, would you also show on screen the imperial? You go over things so well, but fast that my brain can't do the conversion before you're already mentioning something else in metric. 😋
Thanks.
GREAT VIDEO ! THANK YOU !
I am still in two minds between the S22 and this one but I am leaning more to the S22 or even might wait for the T4. I just hope they sort out the battery problems and the battery casings. Thanks for sharing.
random question. I have a City Pro tire 80/80 14 - not the 80/90 14. My understanding is the 80/90 would have a bit taller sidewall, but I'm wondering if the 80/80 would still fit?
i have my master v2 since a week, and it has an custom fw on it, wich do you prefer custom or regular? 🙈
i love this wheel, and i can for sure go on the stock suspension up to 300psi?
greetings from a fan of your vids, from germany 😊
Excellent review.
I'm impressed with the performance and other features, like a centered trolly handle.
I heard the suspension isn't adequate for heavier riders. Can you dispel or confirm this rumor?
Thank you! I forgot to add this detail. It’s definetely not optimal for heavier riders.
I'm 220 lbs (100 kg). I just received the wheel recently.
First try at 125 psi. Bottom all the time.
Second try at 250 psi. It bottoms only on big bumps, of if I jump off or on a thing.
Next try will be at 300 psi, and I'm pretty sure it will be the same as 250 psi, but a bit better.
On all pressure, its super smooth and I don't feel the small bumps or cracks at all.
That's a shame.
I would have enjoyed this wheel.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! 😊
nice review
Can you change the speedometer on the master from metric to imperial units?
Can wait for you to compare this to the T4
I'm so excited for the fight Master vs V13 💥💥
Hi! What do you think about the Clark Fairings for the Master ?
Will be good to see a review of this new fast inmotion. Probably better than the master looking at inmotion's track record.
Have you ever done any tests on difference in range from standing vs seated riding?
That thing would be an amazing getaway vehicle!
I am thinking this daily ;D I wonder if anyone made such video.
Was the range test on the Master done with the Stock tire or with the Michelin tire? Did you use the stock tire in the S22 for the range test?
Stock tire for both range tests.
"the most 'well rounded' wheel" 😂
wath you recomend knoby tire or street tire?
So I’ve been watching your channel, ginger, Kelly Chamaeleon and a few others recently. And I’ve found myself wanting to get into one of these.
Question, where should I begin? Being a bigger guy 6’2 227lbs
I can't remember if you mentioned in the video but what rear pad is that?
I'm seeing a begode master 50e used. I'm not someone who wants to crank out speed. Maybe pull like 45mph. Has it gotten any safer through software updates?
Wow! I was certain that lean at 0:40 wasn’t gonna end well.
Same 😂
@@mr_wrongway
You’re a braver man than I, that’s for sure.
I just got some lean experience doesn’t make me a braver man! You’re brave too!
Any recommendations for Prespective buyers in the US for places to buy from?
3:00 I appreciate the BMS not communicating with the motherboard. I've had problems with BMS-motherboard communication bricking an S20 and S20 unable to charge. The BMS should handle battery safety completly and there's nothing a motherboard can do to improve upon that. Its just a load. Sure in theory a smarter load can learn from BMS when battery limits approach, but I've not seen that manifest in a KS nor Inmotion wheels (I own/ed S20/S22, V11, S18).
Cool. What brand helmet are you using in the intro? Takin the left- hand corner
RuRoc Berserker
Thanx😀
Are thos grey reflectors pads sold ? They look like it holds your leg better than stock.
Which newest batch are you referring to in your video regarding batteries old vs new at 3:52? Is this one that comes with v2 control board or v3?
At this point I don’t know. The one with light bumper, wider rim etc
@@mr_wrongway mine is due to arrive next week, so I wondered how will I tell, I guess checking the rim width would be the easiest way to tell what batch I will get. Thanks
I think it's either v1 or v1.5.
Still awaiting for the entry of the Inmotion V13. Looks exciting but the first off of anything won’t go through the paces until people actually experience it.
We’ll have to wait and see what the competition will bring.
You think Begode will survive the challenge?
If the V13 is 110lbs like has been reported, then the Master will still be best. I think the Master is 80lbs or something. 110lbs is much to heavy for a EUC me thinks.
How well does it work in rainy weather, or in a puddle?
I’m having a hard time deciding between the master and Sherman max. Any tips on which to choose? It would mostly be street commuter use. I care about torque AND speed. And don’t want crazy bumpiness. Trying to protect the knees. In other words, I want it all 😂 I’m annoying myself with it. Haha any tips though are greatly appreciated!!
If you want no bumpiness then it is a no brainer... Begode master
我在中国，正在等待master 二代的订单，非常期待体验它，现在比较担心的是防水的问题，看样子空心轴承依然很容易进水
I just purchased a master! I live in Nanning
How to distinguish old master from the new one?
Wanna buy the one with paralleled batteries.
What is that tire you have on that Master? I am rising with a Shinko 244 but I get a lot of wobbles. Please tell me about your tire?
It’s in the video. Michelin city pro 80/90-14
I've heard how the speakers sound on Inmotion 12, it's better without them. It's easier to attach headphones or a speaker to a backpack.
This wheel is the best to buy, on ewheels now for 2500€, i have it, best starter wheel though heavy but my
I have the 40T Master and am 80kg and the suspension is sheit. I have pumped the shock unit up to 300 psi and it bottoms out on minor 50mm dips...doing like 30 km/h. Not acceptable. I used to ride MTB's for a living and the suspension on this wheel is just really bad. Adam should have addressed this more in his clip. Not a hovercraft by any means...definitely not out of the box.
It defeinetely bottoms out too much than it should, I addressed it a bit but maybe should’ve put more stress onto that. For all of the minor bumps it’s pretty great as far as I’ve been testing :)
Qual euc, que seja durável, recomenda para um piloto pesado que anda grandes distâncias em alta performace… Obrigado pela ajuda
Which one do you recommend, which is durable, for a heavy pilot who rides long distances in high performance… Thanks for help-me!
T4 coming soon..best trick wheel next to the Hero...
I’m very excited about this one
Got a strange feeling that I already seen some of this
wheel looks fantastic indeed. 2400 Wh battery pack is just right for my taste. Any more and the wheel becomes too bulky.
Add some decent engineering to this wheel, proper water resistance and mudguards and I'd get it.
While I think this wheel is a powerful addition in the market. It simply isn’t the fastest. Unless we are talking off the line speed.
The Mobster Pro is easily still the fastest. Gen 1, C40
I’ve raised masters, and they cannot keep up over 55
Hey, which battery version you are reviewing? I want one, if I can do 90km :o
Samsung 50E
…well done reviews and photo footage- you obviously know the equipment and human nature. Have you found manufactures are receptive to your input? Are there ways to “ upgrade battery’ and/or motor ? How about “security” lock out or tracking syst. Via gps/ phone ? I ‘m 70 but these are amazing and a long overdue piece of personal ( amazon ??!!!) transportation equipment… rooollling along the beach @ sunset w/ your honey?? Lol…
Hey Adam love your Channel bro great job here again!! Question 🙋♂️ can you please do a video on how to change the Tire 🛞 on a Begode Master and the Barrings in the future sometime?! 🤔☝️🎥💫🌏😂 I’m trying to save up money to get this Machine.
Wish could meet him one day
What is the difference between red and black versions? Is red one the older one?
I think those are just different colors
Hahaha I like when you say you are riding on an absolutely hideous road, while it seems sooooo nice from my Montreal point of view 🤣
Aaaand Wrong Way is "Coming to America!" 🇺🇲🇵🇱🇨🇦
I want to ride this thing in Cyberpunk 2077!
100% !!!
I'll be happy to get mine in 2022
thanks very much and I will be in the next sherman Max 👍
I’m happy to know that someone hates loud cars as much as I do
i think it was a motorcycle
those deserve a special spit in hell
Great indepth review! Doesn't hold back any punches.*******
where can i get these pads??
Bicycle 🤣 ✨✅✨You’re Awesome!
So, you recommend shermax 💪💪😂
EX20S review took too long! Mines on its way...God please be good lol
I buy it next spring master give begode more time to produce 2-3 batches to make this grest EUC more EPIC and fix some design inperfections.
Anyway actualy is 3 version not cross compatible Master in wild (diferent mainboard etc).
Maybe V13 be good Master competitor but only time tell who be king of POWER and SPEED in spring 2023.
I hope you can do a reaction video on the new inmotion challenger. 🤓
Can you make video for best to buy in 2022 🤪 was thinking for V12 but after i see your last video aboth problems i waiting.
Or you have some tip
I’ll try to make one ✅
@@mr_wrongway great and thx for fast response, start watching your videos last week and i am hooked, great videos
Does BEGODE MASTER is gotway's produce?
Adam, How does this compare to ex20-c38.
EX20 C38 has completely no torque in comparison. Can’t even make it up 35° slope
gotta get this out before the v13 comes out so they dont make you a liar.
The crash was terrible. At least this time it is not on a bridge at night between two cars (even if you didn't crash this time). But still. Was it necessary ? What does Kate think about that ?
It wasn’t my crash. Someone crashed in Russia I think
@@mr_wrongway ok good I found the cut weird but thought it was you.
stil sherman for the win i think all EUC's should adept a cover bar any wheel after sherman coming out without it is a no go for me or make the shelling fiberglass&epoxy
looks like challanger is going to have metal bars with lots of awsome spots to boost its appearance+safety might be the next wheel toping the sherman on a overall basis i find the 3024 battery kinda small tou for a 4500W motor minimum should be 4000WH battery
imo evry engine coming out on a wheel should have the same battery or +/-500WH i dont see the point opf riding a wheel with 120km/h like the challanger with only a 3024wh battery pack feels a bit like a rip off
What size grizzlas are on the back?
Normal
The shock can actually be pumped to 400PSI, sucks begode only includes a 300psi pump
I will try that and yes they only supplied a 300 psi pump. Have you got the Master?
@@schultzy1971 I have a master in transit, my friend also has one; that’s now I know it can be pumped to 400 PSI. He runs it at 350PSI
I bought a new begode master v2 in August 2022, after riding it for about 1200 kilometers, its motherboard burnt down while i was climbing a little step, which is about 10cm high. So I have to dismantle it, and the most astonishing fact I have found is that the motherboard in my wheel was not even a new one, it is a repaired one, second hand, I have token all the pictures, and I send those pictures to begode, they refuse to talk about it, they don't admit it, they don't deny it, they just say you can send your motherboard to us to repair it again, I was insane, I dare not to ride it at all because they won't replace it with a new pcb🥵🥵