The fact is that as a result of the St. Louis lawsuit it was learned the only reason the Rams left St. Louis was because Stan Kroenke signed an indemnification agreement to protect NFL owners from any St. Louis lwasuits. Most NFL Owners knew it was doing harm to St. Louis. St. Louis media showed these plans and there was much excitement in St. Louis to have it built. Stan Kroenke wanted the large TV market of L.A.. as he had already bought the land for SOFI years prior learned by St. Louis media. The NFL Relocation committee recommended the Rams stay in St. Louis and the initial relocation vote was in favor of St. Louis based upon this new stadium. This stadium was fine for St. Louis. The approvals for this stadium moved with great expediency in St. Louis once threatened by Kroenke. St. Louis should have been given an expansion team as later confirmed by support of the Battle Hawks. Attendance was never an issue in St. Louis. An owner however would be needed similar to the owners of Enterprise Car rental that just privately built a new soccer stadium for its new soccer team this year.
I mean, the reality is that Stan Kroenke never intended on keeping the Rams in STL. He never wanted them to leave LA in '96 by then late owner Georgia Fontierre, so no matter what STL would have done, the Rams were outta there. Shame but St. Louis dodge themselves an expensive bullet 🤷🏾♂️
@@scotttildproblem with that is the NFL screwed over St Louis and sided with the Rams (their media HQ is on the SoFi Stadium campus, makes you think). I think if St Louis were to get an expansion team it would be the uphill battle of all uphill battles.
This wasn’t a “last-ditch” effort. St.Louis gave a good-faith effort, but Kroenke wanted to move the Rams regardless of what St.Louis offered him! That’s why St.Louis sued the NFL .
They could have done that in St. Louis had Kronke not purposely put out a sub standard team in order to drive fans away and create a reason to move the team.
@@bbmikej They would not be as valuable in St. Louis as they are in LA. Kronke most likely almost doubled the value of the team by moving back to LA. Its not about wining in is about TV market and stadium revenue. So no he could not have done it in St. Louis. Could he have been successful yeah maybe. But the value of the team would be no were close to what it is now.
What really sucks is that the rams organization wouldn’t even take a second glance at this proposal. They were already set on moving. Normally the organization takes several days or even weeks to look it over and give some feedback on what aspects will work and what won’t. St. Louis submitted this proposal and the rams responded two hours later with, NOPE!!!!
I mean when ur willing to spend $5 billion on SoFi, I don't think a $1.25 billion stadium with no roof is even close to what would have been needed to keep them in St Louis
@@LucaMVP what stadium was being built where and how much it cost had NOTHING to do with it. Kroenke could have just as easily built sofi in St Louis, or at least used the initial proposal as a starting point. The whole point is the rams organization put the city though all of this knowing all along that there was nothing whatsoever that could be done to keep the team in St. Louis. All of this resulted in a lawsuit that was settled out of court, but still cost the rams almost a $1 billion. If kroenke was upfront from the beginning, it would have saved all parties involved a lot of time and money
@@beerdude1878 The Rams doubled in value moving to LA in an instant. They’re now worth over 4x what they were worth in St Louis. Kroenke needed a lot more than a stadium to even consider sticking in the city
@@LucaMVP you are right. Even sofi in St. Louis would not have even kept them there. They could have played in the la coliseum for the next 30 years an had more financial value that anything that they could have in St. Louis. So giving St. Louis any thought that anything could be done to keep them there was misleading. This proposal was very good, not a super stadium, but should be enough to keep any team that any possibility of staying in a city enough to give a little consideration. My original point stands. What stadium was being built where and how much it cost did not impact the move. The rams just wasted everybody’s time and money
@Anthony Mejia I stand by previous statements that I have already made regarding this. What stadium was being built where and how much it cost had nothing to do with the move, or this deal being denied. The sofi deal wasn’t even on the table when all of this took place. The sofi deal could have just as easily happened in St. Louis, or at least this proposal could have been used as a starting point. The rams could play the next 30 years in the l.a coliseum and it would not have impacted the move one bit. If this proposal was made in l.a it would have passed just as easily. The rams just wasted everybody’s time and money acting like there was a proposal that had any chance of keeping the team in St. Louis. Stadium had nothing to do with it, team performance had nothing to do with it. The rams organization agreed to this when they agreed to pay at Louis almost $1 billion as a result of this.
Lived in St. Louis at the time and was looking forward to calling this "National Field". Have always been a Chiefs fan and live in Detroit so I have adopted the Lions too, but the St. Louis Rams will always hold a special place in my heart.
I think with the horrible stadium deal the Rams were doomed to move from the start. The Dome became outdated almost immediately and they never improved it, when all they had to do was add some skylights, paint the seats blue (why the heck they were red in the first place I have no idea), and an overhead Jumbotron (though maybe the roof can't support it). Honestly a stadium like Ford Field is what the Dome should have been. Instead the Dome is more similar to the Alamodome or Hoosier Dome. St Louis really missed out on getting an expansion team in the early 90s, and I bet that a homegrown team would still be in the city if that happened.
I believe the red seating is because they initially expected to get the Patriots. Before Kraft purchased the team, there was a very real possibility of relocation.
@@redpillfreedom6692 So they were going to be the St Louis Patriots? I thought the plan was rebrand them to the St Louis Stallions. If so then why weren't the seats purple and yellow?
I still remember Super Bowl LII when it was the only time St. Louis rooted for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. In celebration, you could hear all around Soulard people chanting, "Kroenke sucks!"
That Super Bowl was literally nightmare scenario for St Louis residents, being forced to root for the Patriots. I didn't root for anybody since I'm a Chiefs fan and was salty about how they lost in the AFC Championship. Didn't help that the game was terribly boring.
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@@michaelcookston7795 the city couldn't do anything. Once Kroenke took over the team and began tanking it he had his sights set on LA. STL tried their best but it was a fruitless endeavor.
St. Louis already has the Battle Hawks of the XFL. If the the team does good and the people of St. Louis support the team, I could see the dome getting an upgrade.
St Louis could've offered to build SoFi and give it to Kreonke for free and he still would've moved to LA. I wish they would've pushed for a replacement expansion team.
In every city I moved to, within 5 years, at least one professional sports team relocated to a different city. LA->STL-> Oakland/Berkeley. Hmmm, where should I move next?
After the Rams moved back to Los Angeles in 2016, St. Louis will get another chance to bring the NFL back, so following the upcoming 2023 NFL season, Michael Bidwill will the Arizona Cardinals to a St. Louis-based ownership group led by World Wide Technology co-founder and St. Louis City SC part-owner Jim Kavanaugh and Clayco founder Robert G. Clark for $5.13 billion. Following the 2024 NFL season, the Cardinals will opt out of their lease with the City of Glendale and their current home, State Farm Stadium, and a Kavanaugh/Clark-led group will pay a relocation fee of $750 million to relocate the Cardinals to St. Louis, so after calling the Phoenix area home for 37 years, the Cardinals will relocate to St. Louis to become the St. Louis Spirits and play their home games at the Dome at America's Center beginning in the 2025 NFL season.
@@CapnBreeze But the Phoenix area is in danger of losing the Coyotes of the NHL if a proposed Tempe Entertainment District that would include a 16,000-seat NHL-ready venue is put on hold for good, so it might lose the Cardinals of the NFL.
If that happens. I'll be sucking I don't see that happening but who knows maybe the NBA will give expansion team and call them the spirit of st. Louis that's probably more realistic and they need to built this stadium I like to design somebody needs to put three or four million dollars the only the stadium will be built it would be awesome in my opinion
Yeah it is something that I won’t make fun of St. Louis for. I’m a Rams fan, but I can understand being in the generation that grew up with them in either LA or STL and seeing them ripped away. At least the Rams will stay in LA for a century.
What team do you see moving there? I have a hard time believing the NFL would expand, 32 teams is a perfect round number. I say the most likely teams to move are the Chargers, Jaguars, or Commanders.
After being played for fools by the NFL, no one in St. Louis (I'm talking about the people with money) will be willing to put any effort into getting a team back.
Happy the Rams back in Los Angeles and 2021 World Champion St Louis can keep the 1999 Lombardi trophy and Banner LA just won their own trophy and banner😊
LA native here, if there's an alternate universe where the Rams were still St. Louis with National Car Rental Field as their home and Los Angeles has the Wildcats as their XFL team, I wanna live there.
The big thing about the stadium having the naming rights of National Car Rental is because Enterprise is based in St Louis. Gotta grab the big stadium name in your rivals home city.
I think cities should tell NFL teams to build it themselves... there is no where near enough ROI for an NFL team... NHL/NBA.. much cheaper and 40+ games /year.. MLB.. 81+/Year.. still... NFL.. you want it.. build it. St. Louis wins by losing these losers.
CA has not handed out any public money for stadiums. One thing they have done right. Cities will chip in a bit for road implements and things like that but not for the project itself.
St Louis didn’t fail🙄 The NFL just needed Stan Kroenke’s money💰 too build a Stadium 🏟️ in Los Angeles…🤷🏻NFL back in LA wasn’t gonna happen any other way🥱
@@GeeDee103 The Raiders were going too LA if the Chargers had stayed in San Diego and the NFL wasn’t even considered going back too LA until Stan Kroenke bought the Stadium land in Inglewood… Chargers/Raiders Carson stadium 🏟️ proposal would have never happened because Dean Spanos and Mark Davis don’t have the combined wealth to fund a 💯 privately financed LA 🏈 stadium 🤷🏻
I really wish somebody would commit to getting the Rams back in St. Louis and letting the Chargers keep LA. It’s not like it wouldn’t make any sense. Half the history is in St. Louis, as well as one Lombardi. just relocate and keep them in the west.
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner if they do that they gotta change the name. I think that was part of the problem originally, the Big Red had no identity and were always overshadowed by the much more successful Cardinals
St louis native here. This was never going to happen. When slim Kroenke skated in to buy the team over Shad Khan, us REAL fans knew they were.gone. plus, where the new stadium was going yo be was BAD NEWS. North city is bad bad bad
I can pick out the fatal flaw of the St. Louis Stadium…it’s against a river notorious for flooding…The Titans are getting a new stadium because of flooding. National Car Rental Stadium is under water…If I was a team and saw this…I would get on the phone to Salt Lake…this stadium was designed by a city hall intern, who knows nothing about engineering.
We have huge flood walls (that the design doesn't show) all along the riverfront. The Mississippi flooding (basically, the Mississippi being the Mississippi) was not an issue. Making sure the stadium didn't flood was a guarantee.
@@RaWeir2 The Mississippi is unpredictable…most floodgates are useless. I’m years of major floods, the waters just go around the walls. No major NFL stadium should ever be built 100 feet of the Mississippi River.
The Rams never wanted to stay in St. Louis. No amount of last ditched efforts was going to keep the Rams in St. Louis. Even with the weak fan base in LA the team is still worth much more than it was when it was in St. Louis. Even with the opposing fans in the stands the team is generating much more revenue in Los Angeles. This was a money grab. If we're being honest the Rams should've never left LA in the first place. If you are an NFL player which city would you rather play in? St Louis or Los Angeles? When kronke purchased that lot of land over there in Inglewood back in 2014 I knew immediately the Rams were headed back to LA.
The Rams we’re going to pack up and go to Los Angeles no mater what. Just moving doubled the value of the team. Besides they started out as the Cleveland Rams.
I miss the Rams. Football just hasn't been the same since they left. And yes, I know, "ThEy NeVeR sHoUlD'vE lEfT iN tHe FiRsT pLaCe" Well they did. And now they're back, you got what you wanted. Get over it.
Then the Raiders and Chargers would have been the teams to move to how late with a Carson Stadium proposal. If you look at the Raiders' Allegiant Stadium, Carson City and look similar to that just it was an outdoor version and it was color white
Because it was a stadium issue both times Bidwell though old Busch didn't seat enough and according to Kroenke the Edward Jones dome wasn't good enough it didn't age well even after only 20 years
Kroenke righted a wrong and returned the team where they belonged all along. Georgia Frontiere played this game with LA, never intending to follow through.
St. Louis is the greatest Baseball town on earth but they suck at keeping a football team. I’m glad the Rams are back on the Coast where they belong. St. Louis Rams never sounded right.
St Louis had several years to rectify the stadium situation. They dragged their feet, and in the 12th hour they came up with a weak stadium proposal that would have been built in a flood plain. Too bad so sad for that non-football city. 😂😂😂
The fact is that as a result of the St. Louis lawsuit it was learned the only reason the Rams left St. Louis was because Stan Kroenke signed an indemnification agreement to protect NFL owners from any St. Louis lwasuits. Most NFL Owners knew it was doing harm to St. Louis. St. Louis media showed these plans and there was much excitement in St. Louis to have it built. Stan Kroenke wanted the large TV market of L.A.. as he had already bought the land for SOFI years prior learned by St. Louis media. The NFL Relocation committee recommended the Rams stay in St. Louis and the initial relocation vote was in favor of St. Louis based upon this new stadium. This stadium was fine for St. Louis. The approvals for this stadium moved with great expediency in St. Louis once threatened by Kroenke. St. Louis should have been given an expansion team as later confirmed by support of the Battle Hawks. Attendance was never an issue in St. Louis. An owner however would be needed similar to the owners of Enterprise Car rental that just privately built a new soccer stadium for its new soccer team this year.
I mean, the reality is that Stan Kroenke never intended on keeping the Rams in STL. He never wanted them to leave LA in '96 by then late owner Georgia Fontierre, so no matter what STL would have done, the Rams were outta there.
Shame but St. Louis dodge themselves an expensive bullet 🤷🏾♂️
You mean it was in 1995 that Stan Kroenke never wanted the Rams to leave LA.
They could have offered to pay for the entire thing and he still would have moved the team to LA. Kind of why they should get another shot at a team.
@@scotttildproblem with that is the NFL screwed over St Louis and sided with the Rams (their media HQ is on the SoFi Stadium campus, makes you think). I think if St Louis were to get an expansion team it would be the uphill battle of all uphill battles.
@@billsherwin1705
Exactly....I knew it back then but stan had to wait for Georgia to either die or he was going to buy the team from her
This wasn’t a “last-ditch” effort. St.Louis gave a good-faith effort, but Kroenke wanted to move the Rams regardless of what St.Louis offered him! That’s why St.Louis sued the NFL .
...AND WON!!!! That's why the BattleDome (❤ XFL) is sitting on millions.
They could have done that in St. Louis had Kronke not purposely put out a sub standard team in order to drive fans away and create a reason to move the team.
@@bbmikej They would not be as valuable in St. Louis as they are in LA. Kronke most likely almost doubled the value of the team by moving back to LA. Its not about wining in is about TV market and stadium revenue. So no he could not have done it in St. Louis. Could he have been successful yeah maybe. But the value of the team would be no were close to what it is now.
They're not even on the top 10 most valuable. wtf are you smoking??
@@bbmikej So sad they were The Greatest Show On Turf
We need National Car Rental Field for the UFL’s Battlehawks 🏈 , a new St Louis NFL Team 🏈 , and a New Saint Louis Major League Rugby Team🏉
It'd be cool to see a list of the best stadium renderings that never ended up happening.
What really sucks is that the rams organization wouldn’t even take a second glance at this proposal. They were already set on moving. Normally the organization takes several days or even weeks to look it over and give some feedback on what aspects will work and what won’t. St. Louis submitted this proposal and the rams responded two hours later with, NOPE!!!!
I mean when ur willing to spend $5 billion on SoFi, I don't think a $1.25 billion stadium with no roof is even close to what would have been needed to keep them in St Louis
@@LucaMVP what stadium was being built where and how much it cost had NOTHING to do with it. Kroenke could have just as easily built sofi in St Louis, or at least used the initial proposal as a starting point. The whole point is the rams organization put the city though all of this knowing all along that there was nothing whatsoever that could be done to keep the team in St. Louis. All of this resulted in a lawsuit that was settled out of court, but still cost the rams almost a $1 billion. If kroenke was upfront from the beginning, it would have saved all parties involved a lot of time and money
@@beerdude1878 The Rams doubled in value moving to LA in an instant. They’re now worth over 4x what they were worth in St Louis. Kroenke needed a lot more than a stadium to even consider sticking in the city
@@LucaMVP you are right. Even sofi in St. Louis would not have even kept them there. They could have played in the la coliseum for the next 30 years an had more financial value that anything that they could have in St. Louis. So giving St. Louis any thought that anything could be done to keep them there was misleading. This proposal was very good, not a super stadium, but should be enough to keep any team that any possibility of staying in a city enough to give a little consideration. My original point stands. What stadium was being built where and how much it cost did not impact the move. The rams just wasted everybody’s time and money
@Anthony Mejia I stand by previous statements that I have already made regarding this. What stadium was being built where and how much it cost had nothing to do with the move, or this deal being denied. The sofi deal wasn’t even on the table when all of this took place. The sofi deal could have just as easily happened in St. Louis, or at least this proposal could have been used as a starting point. The rams could play the next 30 years in the l.a coliseum and it would not have impacted the move one bit. If this proposal was made in l.a it would have passed just as easily. The rams just wasted everybody’s time and money acting like there was a proposal that had any chance of keeping the team in St. Louis. Stadium had nothing to do with it, team performance had nothing to do with it. The rams organization agreed to this when they agreed to pay at Louis almost $1 billion as a result of this.
Lived in St. Louis at the time and was looking forward to calling this "National Field". Have always been a Chiefs fan and live in Detroit so I have adopted the Lions too, but the St. Louis Rams will always hold a special place in my heart.
I think with the horrible stadium deal the Rams were doomed to move from the start. The Dome became outdated almost immediately and they never improved it, when all they had to do was add some skylights, paint the seats blue (why the heck they were red in the first place I have no idea), and an overhead Jumbotron (though maybe the roof can't support it). Honestly a stadium like Ford Field is what the Dome should have been. Instead the Dome is more similar to the Alamodome or Hoosier Dome. St Louis really missed out on getting an expansion team in the early 90s, and I bet that a homegrown team would still be in the city if that happened.
I believe the red seating is because they initially expected to get the Patriots. Before Kraft purchased the team, there was a very real possibility of relocation.
@@redpillfreedom6692 So they were going to be the St Louis Patriots? I thought the plan was rebrand them to the St Louis Stallions. If so then why weren't the seats purple and yellow?
The domes plans were drawn in 1988. The pats almost moved here when bought by Steve Orthwein. Hence the seats were red
It wasn't any worse than all the other stadiums built around the same time.
I still remember Super Bowl LII when it was the only time St. Louis rooted for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. In celebration, you could hear all around Soulard people chanting, "Kroenke sucks!"
You mean Super Bowl LIII? LII was where the eagles beat the patriots in the Super Bowl
That Super Bowl was literally nightmare scenario for St Louis residents, being forced to root for the Patriots. I didn't root for anybody since I'm a Chiefs fan and was salty about how they lost in the AFC Championship. Didn't help that the game was terribly boring.
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Rams never wanted to stay in St.Louis chasing a much bigger TV market in LA. Not sure St. Louis will get another team. Its a great MLB town though.
soccer too
And hockey
The Rams are a original LA team they should have never left LA for St Louis In the first place…
@@GeeDee103They’re not originally from LA lol
@@GeeDee103They played in Anaheim (In Angel Stadium) before they moved to St. Louis and originally they’re not a LA team anyways
No no no STL didn’t fail, they just had a crappy owner who didn’t care for anything besides money
The city did fail
Understatement. F*ck Kroenke!
@@michaelcookston7795 the city couldn't do anything. Once Kroenke took over the team and began tanking it he had his sights set on LA. STL tried their best but it was a fruitless endeavor.
St. Louis already has the Battle Hawks of the XFL. If the the team does good and the people of St. Louis support the team, I could see the dome getting an upgrade.
Xfl might not stay
It's like a more angular version of the Bengals and Browns stadiums.
St Louis could've offered to build SoFi and give it to Kreonke for free and he still would've moved to LA. I wish they would've pushed for a replacement expansion team.
In every city I moved to, within 5 years, at least one professional sports team relocated to a different city. LA->STL-> Oakland/Berkeley. Hmmm, where should I move next?
I wonder what was the option of the different options that the colts could of built? Instead of Lucus oil stadium?
Edward Jones Dome Home Of The Battlehawks.
The Edward Jones Dome opened in 1995 by 2015 it wasn't good enough anymore
It was a trash stadium in 1995 tho
I feel like they still need to make that football stadium
Not really a point since it'll be awhile before St Louis gets a team again plus CityPark exists
I personally would want a roof (at least retractable)
After the Rams moved back to Los Angeles in 2016, St. Louis will get another chance to bring the NFL back, so following the upcoming 2023 NFL season, Michael Bidwill will the Arizona Cardinals to a St. Louis-based ownership group led by World Wide Technology co-founder and St. Louis City SC part-owner Jim Kavanaugh and Clayco founder Robert G. Clark for $5.13 billion. Following the 2024 NFL season, the Cardinals will opt out of their lease with the City of Glendale and their current home, State Farm Stadium, and a Kavanaugh/Clark-led group will pay a relocation fee of $750 million to relocate the Cardinals to St. Louis, so after calling the Phoenix area home for 37 years, the Cardinals will relocate to St. Louis to become the St. Louis Spirits and play their home games at the Dome at America's Center beginning in the 2025 NFL season.
Keep dreaming 😂
Keep wishing
@@CapnBreeze But the Phoenix area is in danger of losing the Coyotes of the NHL if a proposed Tempe Entertainment District that would include a 16,000-seat NHL-ready venue is put on hold for good, so it might lose the Cardinals of the NFL.
If that happens. I'll be sucking I don't see that happening but who knows maybe the NBA will give expansion team and call them the spirit of st. Louis that's probably more realistic and they need to built this stadium I like to design somebody needs to put three or four million dollars the only the stadium will be built it would be awesome in my opinion
@@michaelcookston7795 Which got voted down
Yeah it is something that I won’t make fun of St. Louis for. I’m a Rams fan, but I can understand being in the generation that grew up with them in either LA or STL and seeing them ripped away. At least the Rams will stay in LA for a century.
Really interesting that they had parking on the practice field
Now cover the lawsuit the city won $790M from against this same sleazy league.
That went to greedy lawyers and stupid politicians
Honestly... except for 1999 to 2006, STL has been happier with the Battlehawks.
I think St. Louis will get NFL back someday in the distant future ( i’d say 15-20 years from now ) .
What team do you see moving there? I have a hard time believing the NFL would expand, 32 teams is a perfect round number. I say the most likely teams to move are the Chargers, Jaguars, or Commanders.
@@Gage_Brumley one word: Money
@@Gage_Brumley Jaguars or Expansion team
After being played for fools by the NFL, no one in St. Louis (I'm talking about the people with money) will be willing to put any effort into getting a team back.
@anthonyrivera2003 Forget Atlanta in the NHL someone 's been drinking the Kool Aid
"is that beige..??" LOL Its gold bro! LMAO Their colors where blue and gold. Im dead. I hope that was a troll. Sand paper yellow lmao
I know. I was surprised he couldn't tell those were gold seats.
Happy the Rams back in Los Angeles and 2021 World Champion St Louis can keep the 1999 Lombardi trophy and Banner LA just won their own trophy and banner😊
Rams House!!!!! 🌴
Oh no, here he goes again…
Bro never fails to mention the Oakland Athletics
LA native here, if there's an alternate universe where the Rams were still St. Louis with National Car Rental Field as their home and Los Angeles has the Wildcats as their XFL team, I wanna live there.
Would the NFL merge with the XFL
@@coreylevine8095 maybe idk
St Louis Rams comes off the tongue better.
Nah
Since LA had the Rams from 1946 to 1994 and again since 2016 Los Angeles Rams sounds 10 times better
The big thing about the stadium having the naming rights of National Car Rental is because Enterprise is based in St Louis. Gotta grab the big stadium name in your rivals home city.
National Car Rental is also headquartered in St Louis
@@Gage_Brumley I am surprised I didn't know that. I guess Enterprise got the MLS team and the hockey arena so they came out better from it.
Georgia Frontier is the reason why they moved to StL. Stan Kronke
I think cities should tell NFL teams to build it themselves... there is no where near enough ROI for an NFL team... NHL/NBA.. much cheaper and 40+ games /year.. MLB.. 81+/Year.. still... NFL.. you want it.. build it. St. Louis wins by losing these losers.
CA has not handed out any public money for stadiums. One thing they have done right. Cities will chip in a bit for road implements and things like that but not for the project itself.
Just found you. I share your interest in stadiums and coliseums. Thnx. 😊
St Louis didn’t fail🙄 The NFL just needed Stan Kroenke’s money💰 too build a Stadium 🏟️ in Los Angeles…🤷🏻NFL back in LA wasn’t gonna happen any other way🥱
The LA Chargers are in LA and the Las Vegas Raiders we’re headed bacc to LA if the Rams didn’t come bacc to LA you make no sense…
@@GeeDee103 The Raiders were going too LA if the Chargers had stayed in San Diego and the NFL wasn’t even considered going back too LA until Stan Kroenke bought the Stadium land in Inglewood… Chargers/Raiders Carson stadium 🏟️ proposal would have never happened because Dean Spanos and Mark Davis don’t have the combined wealth to fund a 💯 privately financed LA 🏈 stadium 🤷🏻
@@anthony_rivera4735 Probably Right
I really wish somebody would commit to getting the Rams back in St. Louis and letting the Chargers keep LA. It’s not like it wouldn’t make any sense. Half the history is in St. Louis, as well as one Lombardi. just relocate and keep them in the west.
How about getting the Cardinals back to St. Louis?
Market wouldn’t be big enough for them
It makes way more sense to keep the Rams in LA and move the Chargers to STL
@@Mr.Ed_Wayner if they do that they gotta change the name. I think that was part of the problem originally, the Big Red had no identity and were always overshadowed by the much more successful Cardinals
20 years out of 85 is not "half the history" of the Rams. It's not even a quarter of it.
content gold every video
St louis native here. This was never going to happen. When slim Kroenke skated in to buy the team over Shad Khan, us REAL fans knew they were.gone. plus, where the new stadium was going yo be was BAD NEWS. North city is bad bad bad
3:00 looks like the oakland coliseum lol
I can pick out the fatal flaw of the St. Louis Stadium…it’s against a river notorious for flooding…The Titans are getting a new stadium because of flooding. National Car Rental Stadium is under water…If I was a team and saw this…I would get on the phone to Salt Lake…this stadium was designed by a city hall intern, who knows nothing about engineering.
We have huge flood walls (that the design doesn't show) all along the riverfront. The Mississippi flooding (basically, the Mississippi being the Mississippi) was not an issue.
Making sure the stadium didn't flood was a guarantee.
@@RaWeir2 The Mississippi is unpredictable…most floodgates are useless. I’m years of major floods, the waters just go around the walls. No major NFL stadium should ever be built 100 feet of the Mississippi River.
The Rams never wanted to stay in St. Louis. No amount of last ditched efforts was going to keep the Rams in St. Louis. Even with the weak fan base in LA the team is still worth much more than it was when it was in St. Louis. Even with the opposing fans in the stands the team is generating much more revenue in Los Angeles. This was a money grab.
If we're being honest the Rams should've never left LA in the first place. If you are an NFL player which city would you rather play in? St Louis or Los Angeles? When kronke purchased that lot of land over there in Inglewood back in 2014 I knew immediately the Rams were headed back to LA.
The Rams we’re going to pack up and go to Los Angeles no mater what. Just moving doubled the value of the team. Besides they started out as the Cleveland Rams.
I miss the Rams. Football just hasn't been the same since they left.
And yes, I know, "ThEy NeVeR sHoUlD'vE lEfT iN tHe FiRsT pLaCe" Well they did. And now they're back, you got what you wanted. Get over it.
So what if the Rams had stayed in St. Louis, MO?
Then the Raiders and Chargers would have been the teams to move to how late with a Carson Stadium proposal. If you look at the Raiders' Allegiant Stadium, Carson City and look similar to that just it was an outdoor version and it was color white
It needed a bigger upper deck and a fixed roof
Bro, it’s over the raiders lost
I feel bad for St Louis they cant catch a break with nfl teams leaving. First the cardinals moved to az. Then the rams move back to LA.
@@anthony_rivera4735 the city did, it's just the teams were ass for a long time. When a team hardly wins the fan base is going to erode.
Because it was a stadium issue both times Bidwell though old Busch didn't seat enough and according to Kroenke the Edward Jones dome wasn't good enough it didn't age well even after only 20 years
Raiders fan, is that you, mark davis is ginger, are you?
"Duck" Stan Kroenke
The NFL giveth and the NFL taketh away. Did St.Louis try to keep the Cardinals?
How dare you!
Kroenke righted a wrong and returned the team where they belonged all along. Georgia Frontiere played this game with LA, never intending to follow through.
They have st.Louis city sc now
F soccer
You can't put it in St Louis City limits. Not Safe!!! St Charles maybe.
A great spot would have been where the old Chrysler plant was off I-44 near Fenton. I think there's several distribution centers there now.
The Ram had the right to move back to Angelo’s
Nice stadium....lol! Try to get the Cards back
Don't want them. And don't need them.
You do understand the LA Rams are a original LA team who moved to St Louis from LA and then came bacc to LA you do understand that right ???…
Wrong. They originally originated in Cleveland.
St. Louis is the greatest Baseball town on earth but they suck at keeping a football team. I’m glad the Rams are back on the Coast where they belong. St. Louis Rams never sounded right.
TOO BAD ST LOUIS
St Louis had several years to rectify the stadium situation. They dragged their feet, and in the 12th hour they came up with a weak stadium proposal that would have been built in a flood plain. Too bad so sad for that non-football city. 😂😂😂
Like la is such a crazy football town
So basic haha