This environment and it's colour palette is completely different to what MK3 ended up as, I can see why they didn't end up using it. This does clash with the rest of the stage environments. Nonetheless this very cool and interesting.
That’s crazy…unreleased. Is it me or did they really bring that stage out in (Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3) *Scorpion Lair*, because if you look at the back layout it looks similar to Scorpion’s Lair in Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 ?
''This is a previously never released video taken off of a development CRT showing an MK3 level that was left on the cutting room floor. It was an underground cavern level that we were doing initial testing on the graphic elements of. While I wasn't employed by Bally/Midway/Williams, Ed asked me as a friend to do some graphics for a level. Some surviving graphic work I contributed was the Galaxian style mini-game in MK3. The quality of the video is meh and there is no audio but hey, it was the 90s. (The video on the right was SNL that we were apparently watching on a TV at the time.) Ed gave me some direction on the size of the sprites and elements and from there, I had no way of previewing how everything flowed during the design. I had to make a trip to his house. This was the first time I was able to view everything in action on a development system. Some points of interest, the title screens were incomplete so a static image with some PacMan and Joust sprites bouncing around. Also check out the names of some of the fighters when the round ends. reddit.com/link/13p15wx/video/zq6ui52fhg1b1/player ''
I can see a Christmas tree on the SNL TV, so this presumably might have been during December 1993? I don't think Comedy Central had the rights to air reruns at that point yet. Looks way too early for it to be 1994.
@@AnEternalEnigma i did some investigating and it was deff December, the christmas tree and red flowers-It was Dec 11th 1993 and Sally Field was host. I cant believe they had mocap for Jax and SZ this early in Mk3's dev!
It really makes you think: just how much is there in the source code of arcade MK3 that we don't know of yet? technically, MK3's source code on consoles was leaked, but unlike MK2, we still don't have the original source code, I really hope one day we'll get to see all of the mysteries that arcade MK3 as well as MK4 have inside of them.
The 3D0 and PSX Source code for MK3 / Ultimate / Trilogy was leaked and it's all C-based, meaning that there's probably not that many differences to the arcade source code either way. In fact, it's even funnier because Trilogy is built on top of UMK3 files (you can see the headers saying MK3 and UMK3, making it the true "last revision" for MK3 unofficially.
It could be my impression, but it seems that both JAX and Sub-Zero sprites have the same size as MK2. If it had continued like this, it would have been animal (we know that MK2 characters have a larger size and definition than MK3)
Wow this was probably from the earliest build of MK3. I think the hud is also from MK2 or a place holder version. So what do you think the wip name of this stage was? The Cave, The Cavern. This stage will live on as a Mugen stage lol
So cool! I love the stage but I understand why it didn't stay. It doesn't really go with the vibe of MK3 but I still like it! Very exciting footage thanks
@@SirBuzz I've been busy in my own little world I guess, I had no idea....realized he hadn't done much lately but just figured he was taking a break from it.....that just blows. I'm not sure how what he's doing does anything other than help them, tbh.
it does look cool, but it feels way more like a location in outworld than an earthrealm urban area. wouldve fit more in mk2 so i can see why they didnt end up using this
Probably MK3 was made on the basis of MK2, I don't know if it's my impression, but it seems that the Sprites of the characters despite being already updated from MK3, they still have the size of MK2. We know that MK3 characters' Sprites are inferior and smaller than MK2
@@thyagoMS Wow seriously, they have lower resolution? Strange, I always thought the opposite that sprites in MK3 are better than MK2 (or at least the same).
Me. I was the artist. I've had this footage since 1993. I reminded Ed of it recently and got his permission to post. This is the only known footage of it. Original artwork is unfortunately not around anymore (it was easy to lose things from technology back then, computer upgrades, etc. despite my effort to hang on to it)
@@kentmiller8204 Is this the only video you have of the development of MK3 or do you only have this one? Do you believe that Ed Boom may have more material? This is wonderful!
@@thyagoMS Thanks. This is all I really have. I've commented elsewhere that I *did* used to have a brief clip of the proto-MK concept with the sprites of Van Damme but while trying to locate it recently (translation: fast forwarding through boxes of old video tapes) I think it was lost. Good question with Ed. I know we recorded a lot of things back in the day (hey, it was the 90s and that was the thing) but him having the time to locate and release anything is a bit of a stretch. The man doesn't take a breath between projects. Maybe some day when he decides to hang up his hat, he may get around to it.
@@lancepage1914 Yes, that was a consideration. I think due to the lack of modern collaboration technology we have now that didn't exist in 93 and the fact that I didn't actually work at Williams, it was a lot to ask. This was the first demo of all of the assets along with game play. Had we more time, I think revisions would have been made to make it fit.
@@lancepage1914 It wasn't homebrew. Ed had a dev system at his house and this was considered for the MK3 release. Details in other posts but it was 100% early dev on the arcade version.
Really awesome stage. I can understand why they scrapped it though, as the game was going for a more Urban look, this stage would have felt out of place.
![Making of - Mortal Kombat 3 (high quality) [MK3 Into The Outworld - Behind the Scenes]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gs4tAuiANQE/mqdefault.jpg)
Seeing this now after all these decades is like seeing MK3 from an alternate universe.
Another timeline perhaps?
Call Lord Liu Kang most likely he can take you there 👍
1:14 Is anyone gonna talk about that it says, "M Bison" won?
LOL that's right! I wonder why they put that there, kould be like a pun or maybe his "demo" name?
This environment and it's colour palette is completely different to what MK3 ended up as, I can see why they didn't end up using it. This does clash with the rest of the stage environments. Nonetheless this very cool and interesting.
What an amazing find. The stage looks so cool as well! A shame we never got it in the game.
That’s crazy…unreleased. Is it me or did they really bring that stage out in (Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3) *Scorpion Lair*, because if you look at the back layout it looks similar to Scorpion’s Lair in Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 ?
''This is a previously never released video taken off of a development CRT showing an MK3 level that was left on the cutting room floor. It was an underground cavern level that we were doing initial testing on the graphic elements of. While I wasn't employed by Bally/Midway/Williams, Ed asked me as a friend to do some graphics for a level. Some surviving graphic work I contributed was the Galaxian style mini-game in MK3. The quality of the video is meh and there is no audio but hey, it was the 90s. (The video on the right was SNL that we were apparently watching on a TV at the time.)
Ed gave me some direction on the size of the sprites and elements and from there, I had no way of previewing how everything flowed during the design. I had to make a trip to his house. This was the first time I was able to view everything in action on a development system.
Some points of interest, the title screens were incomplete so a static image with some PacMan and Joust sprites bouncing around. Also check out the names of some of the fighters when the round ends.
reddit.com/link/13p15wx/video/zq6ui52fhg1b1/player ''
I can see a Christmas tree on the SNL TV, so this presumably might have been during December 1993? I don't think Comedy Central had the rights to air reruns at that point yet. Looks way too early for it to be 1994.
@@AnEternalEnigma i did some investigating and it was deff December, the christmas tree and red flowers-It was Dec 11th 1993 and Sally Field was host. I cant believe they had mocap for Jax and SZ this early in Mk3's dev!
@@AnEternalEnigmasuper random but I loved your silent hill 4 GDQ runs.
@@AnEternalEnigma Indeed it was the original broadcast. I had to go there on the weekend to do the testing.
Probably some prototype of Kahns Cave looks similar to it, I actually like it.
John Vogel was into some primal rage because looking at that background is stunning.
M. BISON The real name of Sub Zero
?
@@TroutButter Look at 1:15.
Considering "Kuai Liang" is an MK9 thing...well, it's not wrong.
@@skar8009 but... Kuai Liang its a thing since MK 2.
It was Ed goofing around in early development to be a smart ass..... for a change.
It really makes you think: just how much is there in the source code of arcade MK3 that we don't know of yet? technically, MK3's source code on consoles was leaked, but unlike MK2, we still don't have the original source code, I really hope one day we'll get to see all of the mysteries that arcade MK3 as well as MK4 have inside of them.
The 3D0 and PSX Source code for MK3 / Ultimate / Trilogy was leaked and it's all C-based, meaning that there's probably not that many differences to the arcade source code either way.
In fact, it's even funnier because Trilogy is built on top of UMK3 files (you can see the headers saying MK3 and UMK3, making it the true "last revision" for MK3 unofficially.
That MKIII Logo, OMG !!!
Almost every stage in MK3 has some relation to the story so I'm super curious where this would've been. Amazing find!
Did anyone catch Sub-Zero's name is M. Bison at 1:16? Lmao!
MK3 in a different 90s timeline 😉awesome stage btw.
That stage have been a fine addition to an already set of great stages from MK3
1:15 M Bison wins - how cool is that?
It could be my impression, but it seems that both JAX and Sub-Zero sprites have the same size as MK2. If it had continued like this, it would have been animal (we know that MK2 characters have a larger size and definition than MK3)
Should this be the caverns of edenia? This is pretty awesome!
Wow this was probably from the earliest build of MK3. I think the hud is also from MK2 or a place holder version. So what do you think the wip name of this stage was? The Cave, The Cavern. This stage will live on as a Mugen stage lol
This is amazing, I didn’t know mk 3 had a removed stage during beta, i hope y’all discover more beta content.
So cool! I love the stage but I understand why it didn't stay. It doesn't really go with the vibe of MK3 but I still like it!
Very exciting footage thanks
I remember seeing this stage on one of those video games mags from around spring 1995.
1:14 Is anyone gonna talk about that it says, "M Bison" won?
1:13 “M. Bison Wins”
Looks like it could be Sub-Zero's lair!
Could be. It does looks like something that could have been on Sub Zero Mythologies lol
We need Paul Eicher to find a way!
@@SirBuzz I've been busy in my own little world I guess, I had no idea....realized he hadn't done much lately but just figured he was taking a break from it.....that just blows. I'm not sure how what he's doing does anything other than help them, tbh.
Seems like Jax had the "mashed potato head" like in the genesis port.
I still want to see character tests, like Jax in the yellow suit and the guy from part II who was dropped.
Omg where have you found this????😮
Awesome!!!
Looks cool looks like a ice cavern was this supposed to be Sub-Zero's stage?
it does look cool, but it feels way more like a location in outworld than an earthrealm urban area. wouldve fit more in mk2 so i can see why they didnt end up using this
The cavern arena is interesting. 👀👀
Looks like they hadn't put a run button yet.
Did that say M. Bison wins?????
Is it unknown mk3 beta? Why the lifebars are from mk2? Why it says M BISON at 1:15?
Probably MK3 was made on the basis of MK2, I don't know if it's my impression, but it seems that the Sprites of the characters despite being already updated from MK3, they still have the size of MK2. We know that MK3 characters' Sprites are inferior and smaller than MK2
@@thyagoMS Wow seriously, they have lower resolution? Strange, I always thought the opposite that sprites in MK3 are better than MK2 (or at least the same).
@@Rotoid Yes, and I don't know why. Compare MK2's JAX vs MK3's, it's clear that MK2's is much more detailed and bigger too.
Cool, awesome find
So where did this come from? The game source code and unused resources or did Ed boon?
Me. I was the artist. I've had this footage since 1993. I reminded Ed of it recently and got his permission to post. This is the only known footage of it. Original artwork is unfortunately not around anymore (it was easy to lose things from technology back then, computer upgrades, etc. despite my effort to hang on to it)
@@kentmiller8204 Is this the only video you have of the development of MK3 or do you only have this one? Do you believe that Ed Boom may have more material? This is wonderful!
@@thyagoMS Thanks. This is all I really have. I've commented elsewhere that I *did* used to have a brief clip of the proto-MK concept with the sprites of Van Damme but while trying to locate it recently (translation: fast forwarding through boxes of old video tapes) I think it was lost. Good question with Ed. I know we recorded a lot of things back in the day (hey, it was the 90s and that was the thing) but him having the time to locate and release anything is a bit of a stretch. The man doesn't take a breath between projects. Maybe some day when he decides to hang up his hat, he may get around to it.
@@kentmiller8204 Wow thank you for sharing this cool stuff, sir.
This spikes remind Soul Chamber
The only thing is that they changed it up & added fire
I agree. To suit the theme of the game this stage would have needed to be darker with fire for lighting and some MK iconology.
@@lancepage1914 Yes, that was a consideration. I think due to the lack of modern collaboration technology we have now that didn't exist in 93 and the fact that I didn't actually work at Williams, it was a lot to ask. This was the first demo of all of the assets along with game play. Had we more time, I think revisions would have been made to make it fit.
So early they were still using roman numerals.
What a find!!!
Really interesting
A cave stage, sweet!
Can you confirm there is a MKII Beta for NTSC-U on PSX??? GameHacking has that Listed for Cheats, but I can not find it, so no idea if those are Legit
Dammmnnnnn
Love! Also I feel not enough people give 3 credit it has levels AMD and atmosphere thatcultimate didn’t have I actually like 3 better than umk3
This from MK Plus Team/Paul?
Wow hidden stage 😮
1:15 M. Bison?1
Where did you find this??
Me
Wow 👍
How and where did you stumble across this?
Check the video description
Ahhh...I see. Derp! 🤪
How do we acess it?
add it to mk3 plus lol
I would love to see this stage implemented in a rom hack or in Mugen or something. How do people even find this styff?
It was mine. I've had it since 93 and just recently decided to release it (with Ed's blessing)
M bison wins!
Some homebrew stuff?
@@THEMARS0NE Ahhhhh sheeeeeeit ^^.
If you read the source of this video in the comments it kind of is a homebrew since this footage was recorded at Ed Boon's house on a development kit.
@@lancepage1914 Interesting. When I see a reddit link I usually stay away. But that is definitely cool.
@@lancepage1914 It wasn't homebrew. Ed had a dev system at his house and this was considered for the MK3 release. Details in other posts but it was 100% early dev on the arcade version.
looks like a MUGEN
No. Mugen looks like MK.
Lol Mbison wins
i want digitized graphics back mk has never been the same since all this 3d animated shit
Really awesome stage. I can understand why they scrapped it though, as the game was going for a more Urban look, this stage would have felt out of place.
health bar and stage timer still mk2 also