Your videos help me out a lot I know that I have narcissistic tendencies and I struggle to work through them What you said about love is true I know from experience.
There's no way to explain or describe to others just how much they hate women. It's incalculable. It's not the type of hate people usually say they feel toward others when they are angry with someone, it's without any type of redemption and there's absolutely no way to change this despite what you offer them.
I have the madonna/whore complex, it took me 27 years to find it out cause i didnt want to know what i was, i was not supposed to have this life, i cant tell you that i hate women cause i dont, i love them, when i was in the 11th grade all i wanted to do was give pleasure to woman, and then one day I couldn’t satisfy woman and the only way i could finish the job was if i was in control of the situation and had to do exactly what i wanted her to do. I think that what cause this was 2 very bad relationships when i was young where the two girls said they loved me but hurt my ego by being with other guys that i consider to be very inferior to me
absolutely.. he claims to love me so much but all i feel is pure hate from him.. misogynist energy for sure ! i have disclosed an incident in the past.... of being sexually harassed and he replies with : ' so how did u get in that situation in the first place...?" like REALLY ?? this bitch has three little girls.. karma is gonna bite him up on, and around his ass.. and rightly so !!! i feel for those girls n(he has three little girls....and he neglects them day in and out but will use them as an justification to be horribly upset if i say .. thinbk abt ur little girls when u treat me badly.. as if i'm insulting them.. this is normal talk.. smh.. narc psychopath bastard... i feel for those who must deal with these people. i feel for myself ! .. but i feel more so for ALL those who will have to deal with them as adults.. aka .. daughters of a covert psychopathic narcissist. he can go to hell.. him and his gene pool.. i want NOTHING to do with him. sick of it..and this is why people sometimes.. grab whatever the fuck they can find and they hit people and kill people and abuse them .. why ? bc sometimes the victim becomes the fucking criminal.. the abuser.. and then we are condemned.. but no one ever stops to question or analyze.. wtf drove us there ????????
I was married to one. We were in a sexless marriage because the narcissist just refused to have sex. I thought he was depressed. I also agree that they get bored easily. Mine was addicted to extreme sports. He became a pilot, but I think he is sick of the job after a couple of years because, in reality, there probably isn't much risk in being a airline pilot. There is probably more risk in being a truck driver.
'Narcissists see social interaction as a nuisance' from my experience, this particular person goes through cycles of instrumentally using people socially with great fervor and enthusiasm and cycles of being hermetic and misanthropic
Nim chimpsky I know people who do not like interacting with crowds, they are more of a one on one individual. They are hardly narcs, but nice, reasonable people.
Blech! So true. Mine flipped out when I told him I wasn't willing to be his mommy or his big sister (whichever hangup he had) any longer! Lol! Holy smokes!!
Same. When I realised my father's game, voiced my opinion and even pointed out that he used my naive mother all her life he lost it. I saw his real face.
Very convincing. Malignant Self-Love as a title is nice, but I think it's a misnomer to call narcissistic behavior any form of self-love. Love would never reflect such deep hostility toward another. My word would be self-hatred. Although their evil ways are acted upon someone else, it's their deep disghust of self that looks out onto a world, a woman, as miserable - or non-self. Self is contained perception, so to see a woman as anything beyond what she is is a self-issue, reflecting disgust from mother.
@Joebob01010 - The problem with NPDs is that they must divide people into characteristics. Such as "better than." Who says either gender is better than the other? We are supposed to embrace our differences, not use them to feel superior or inferior.
I'm trying so hard to get away from my husband, who is a Narcissist. At the beginning of the relationship is was a dream come true, now it's a dreaded reoccurring nightmare. HELP!
There is little help for people whom have no desire to help themselves. The best thing you can do is leave. I was married to a clinically diagnosed cerebral narcissist, there is no fixing someone whom regards themselves as better than everyone else. The quicker you go the less likely he will be to stalk you.... If you invest years he will never really leave you alone, they always try to sniff around in non-chalant ways in hopes that you pine for them
@@Mrs.T305 Is marriage not just really control over another person? Is control not what a narcissistic wants? The two go hand in hand! Hence why a lot of women will pressurise a man with assets, to marry them, especially if they can't match him in brains or resources, which is virtually all the time!
I grew up abused by women, physically, sexually, and emotionally. I do have a hatred of woman. Does that make me narcissistic? I'm unable to even let woman touch me, let alone form meaningful relationships. I see all woman as threats. Basically everything you said in the video. I don't hurt woman at all, I don't date them, don't talk to them: but I am frustrated with my attraction of their complexity and sexuality. Sometimes I wish I were gay, that would make things easier. I've had and do have woman throw themselves at me since highschool, so it's not that I can't get a woman, it's just that I hate them too much to let one in. I see them as very hypocritical: calling men abusive when they themselves have abused me (I was a child). Anyway, you said in the video that narcissist see woman's sexuality and seductive skills as threats: I do this too. I think they're pure evil. Also, even though I don't interact with woman, I have domination based fantasies (you called this another red flag of a narcissist). Basically, I have ALL the narcissistic red flags you've mentioned in your videos. But considering the context (my background of abuse), is this true? Do you think I am one?
Only a qualified mental health diagnostician can determine whether someone suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and this, following lengthy tests and personal interviews. These may be of help - click on the links: vaksam.tripod.com/1.html vaksam.tripod.com/npdglance.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq82.html vaksam.tripod.com/faqpd.html Healing and Curing Narcissism vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html vaksam.tripod.com/10.html vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html Links to Therapist Directories, Psychological Tests, NPD Resources, Support Groups for narcissists and their victims, and Tutorials: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5458 Support groups for victims of narcissists and psychopaths (and one or two groups for narcissists) dmoz.org/Health/Mental_Health/Disorders/Personality/Narcissistic/Support_Groups/
The funny thing is your not wrong. Most women are as you described. .even the nicest most "caring " women who claim to be loyal and trustworthy can be the worst. I have no faith in western women in this modern day and age. Social media has messed them up.
Hmmm. My ex narc and I had very kinky sex. He loved slapping my face, calling me a wh***, and listening to me tell stories of other men (all during sex), but there were also times of ‘vanilla’ sex. In either case, he always made sure I reached orgasm before he did. I wonder why that is. (His lack of selfishness in this area.)
He wanted you to climax first so youd be revved up to give him his orgasm - usually orally so he could relax after . its not selfless giving sex...it's calculated so he can go to sleep after climax and not work at you coming. Its all planned out....sad huh?
To prove himself? I would say he knew orgasms are hard to reach for women and knowing he's one of the few that can do it was a building thought for him.
Sounds like a woman I thought I knew for 9 years until her mask fell off. This goes both ways. There are male and female narcs who fit this description. Setting my boundaries to energetically repel these demons!
I think that narcissists can't relate well with people in general & are scared of emotional intimacy regardless of gender of the partner. From personal experience, I was close friends with a gay narcissist, who hated men mainly because he was abandoned by his father at a young age. Needles to say, I received the same treatment from him as the guys he hated. He idolised all women & I fell for it
What do you do if you are the son of an npd mother, and you were her golden son your whole life, you spent your life being the perfect successful son she wanted, living in the rich snobbish towns we would move to, she isolated us(my sisters and I) physically from any family, and psychologically from friends, saying they were bad, then when you were seventeen years old, she divorced your dad, and randomly moved three thousand miles away into the woods, leaving you behind in the rich town, she then preceded to tell your sisters she had to move because you were unstable, and ungrateful? Now you're left with no family, difficulty keeping friends, and completely confused about where you came from, and where to go, if you try to bring up that there may have been problems in the family, the npd mother laughs at you and says it’s all in your head. This is my story, I feel like no one can understand, what do I do?
+Scott J You should treat your mother as you would any other narcissistic abuser: NO CONTACT. Narcissistic and psychopathic parents and their children - click on the links: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/4727
If my N feels I've done him wrong in some way (by not congratulating for gracing the world with his presence) he'll go on 30 minute lectures about my misbehavior& almost always without fail by the end of the conversation his tirade is turned into examples of how I'm exactly like his mother. He speaks of his mom with such venom it always makes me uncomfortable. I've met his mom& she seems ok & when I say that he tells me I don't really know her true self because she didn't protect him as a child.
What if they didn’t have a mother figure in their life? The experience I had with a narc. He told me stories about his father’s humiliating abuse, and multiple women.
@@SuperLucylola Your words not mine. I'll rephrase my original post a bit (I don't even remember posting on this vid to be honest). I don't want to end up with the town bike.
@@SuperLucylola That's fine. That's your choice I assume. As much as my original post was something of a sweeping generalisation it's also true that all men don't act like predatory dogs in heat.
@@SuperLucylola I don't buy that. Some guys are shy. It's true we're all wired to procreate though and that does complicate things if you find someone attractive. It's matter of respect though, all men aren't neanderthals. Personally speaking at my age pursuing the opposite sex isn't too high on my agenda.
@@SuperLucylola Yeah I know there's some assholes out there. I've crossed paths with a couple of female narcs in my life but I don't give them any press good or bad if I can help it. . I don't even think we're disagreeing on anything here really. Thanks for the chat SLL. Good luck and stay safe and happy.
agree fully about narcissists being bad people, but there are certain narcissistic traits most people have which does not lead them to causing other people harm
It took me to be 27 years old to find out i have the madonna/whore complex, i never wanted to find out what i was cause i was scared to know what i am, i stopped going out with women cause if they didn’t do what i told them I couldn’t keep it up, and it was humiliating for me, is it possible that this hatred for woman could have been developed later in life say in middle school with bad relationships experiences? Say i was in love with a girl who said who loved me but made out with a lot of other guys and that pissed me off a lot, caused me depression cause in my mind, my ego couldn’t handled it, i would think why would she do this to me, im handsome, have money, im athletic and smart, can these guys are shit compare to me, is this the kind of thoughts and repress hate cause this psychic impotence?
Dear Dr Vaknin, first of all.. id like to thank you for youre knowlidge and expertice.. my ex ( a woman ) lied to me about my child not being my child... i try to see my (child) because i love hem like my own son.. ive been to court and.. the judge says that i can see hem.. but my ex refusis... i dony know where she lives and eighter do the judge says that i csn see him.. now she apiels... what can i do?
Your videos help me out a lot
I know that I have narcissistic tendencies and I struggle to work through them
What you said about love is true I know from experience.
There's no way to explain or describe to others just how much they hate women. It's incalculable. It's not the type of hate people usually say they feel toward others when they are angry with someone, it's without any type of redemption and there's absolutely no way to change this despite what you offer them.
bill I agree. I found it scary.
I have the madonna/whore complex, it took me 27 years to find it out cause i didnt want to know what i was, i was not supposed to have this life, i cant tell you that i hate women cause i dont, i love them, when i was in the 11th grade all i wanted to do was give pleasure to woman, and then one day I couldn’t satisfy woman and the only way i could finish the job was if i was in control of the situation and had to do exactly what i wanted her to do. I think that what cause this was 2 very bad relationships when i was young where the two girls said they loved me but hurt my ego by being with other guys that i consider to be very inferior to me
absolutely.. he claims to love me so much but all i feel is pure hate from him.. misogynist energy for sure !
i have disclosed an incident in the past.... of being sexually harassed and he replies with : ' so how did u get in that situation in the first place...?" like REALLY ?? this bitch has three little girls.. karma is gonna bite him up on, and around his ass.. and rightly so !!!
i feel for those girls n(he has three little girls....and he neglects them day in and out but will use them as an justification to be horribly upset if i say .. thinbk abt ur little girls when u treat me badly.. as if i'm insulting them.. this is normal talk.. smh..
narc psychopath bastard...
i feel for those who must deal with these people. i feel for myself ! .. but i feel more so for ALL those who will have to deal with them as adults.. aka .. daughters of a covert psychopathic narcissist. he can go to hell.. him and his gene pool.. i want NOTHING to do with him. sick of it..and this is why people sometimes.. grab whatever the fuck they can find and they hit people and kill people and abuse them .. why ? bc sometimes the victim becomes the fucking criminal.. the abuser.. and then we are condemned.. but no one ever stops to question or analyze.. wtf drove us there ????????
But how come they choose that one and puts her on a pedestal?
That’s my feelings exactly toward women.
I was married to one. We were in a sexless marriage because the narcissist just refused to have sex. I thought he was depressed. I also agree that they get bored easily. Mine was addicted to extreme sports. He became a pilot, but I think he is sick of the job after a couple of years because, in reality, there probably isn't much risk in being a airline pilot. There is probably more risk in being a truck driver.
John Smith me too
'Narcissists see social interaction as a nuisance' from my experience, this particular person goes through cycles of instrumentally using people socially with great fervor and enthusiasm and cycles of being hermetic and misanthropic
Approach-Avoidance Repetition Complex and Fear of Intimacy
health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/5000
Nim chimpsky I know people who do not like interacting with crowds, they are more of a one on one individual. They are hardly narcs, but nice, reasonable people.
Ironically your videos woke me up 5 years ago.. Changed my life. They still come to me but don't get far
Blech! So true. Mine flipped out when I told him I wasn't willing to be his mommy or his big sister (whichever hangup he had) any longer! Lol! Holy smokes!!
Susan Kay
Wow, I told mine the exact same thing!
Same. When I realised my father's game, voiced my opinion and even pointed out that he used my naive mother all her life he lost it. I saw his real face.
Very convincing. Malignant Self-Love as a title is nice, but I think it's a misnomer to call narcissistic behavior any form of self-love. Love would never reflect such deep hostility toward another. My word would be self-hatred. Although their evil ways are acted upon someone else, it's their deep disghust of self that looks out onto a world, a woman, as miserable - or non-self. Self is contained perception, so to see a woman as anything beyond what she is is a self-issue, reflecting disgust from mother.
Narcissism and Self Love samvak.tripod.com/faq23.html
@Joebob01010 - The problem with NPDs is that they must divide people into characteristics. Such as "better than." Who says either gender is better than the other? We are supposed to embrace our differences, not use them to feel superior or inferior.
I'm trying so hard to get away from my husband, who is a Narcissist. At the beginning of the relationship is was a dream come true, now it's a dreaded reoccurring nightmare. HELP!
There is little help for people whom have no desire to help themselves. The best thing you can do is leave. I was married to a clinically diagnosed cerebral narcissist, there is no fixing someone whom regards themselves as better than everyone else. The quicker you go the less likely he will be to stalk you.... If you invest years he will never really leave you alone, they always try to sniff around in non-chalant ways in hopes that you pine for them
How does a narc marry if they can't love?
@@Mrs.T305 Is marriage not just really control over another person? Is control not what a narcissistic wants? The two go hand in hand! Hence why a lot of women will pressurise a man with assets, to marry them, especially if they can't match him in brains or resources, which is virtually all the time!
@@Pimp-Master Thanks, me neither lol
@@Mrs.T305 Marriage is just to show other people....social acceptance and other purposes
Do narcissistic fathers often have an unhealthy interest in their daughters over their sons?
+John Smith Yes, they do: www.narcissistic-abuse.com/faq22.html
Sam Vaknin .
Mine sure did.
I grew up abused by women, physically, sexually, and emotionally. I do have a hatred of woman. Does that make me narcissistic? I'm unable to even let woman touch me, let alone form meaningful relationships. I see all woman as threats. Basically everything you said in the video. I don't hurt woman at all, I don't date them, don't talk to them: but I am frustrated with my attraction of their complexity and sexuality. Sometimes I wish I were gay, that would make things easier. I've had and do have woman throw themselves at me since highschool, so it's not that I can't get a woman, it's just that I hate them too much to let one in. I see them as very hypocritical: calling men abusive when they themselves have abused me (I was a child).
Anyway, you said in the video that narcissist see woman's sexuality and seductive skills as threats: I do this too. I think they're pure evil. Also, even though I don't interact with woman, I have domination based fantasies (you called this another red flag of a narcissist). Basically, I have ALL the narcissistic red flags you've mentioned in your videos. But considering the context (my background of abuse), is this true? Do you think I am one?
Also, if I am a narcissist, is it possible that I can heal and become normal again?
Only a qualified mental health diagnostician can determine whether someone
suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and this, following lengthy
tests and personal interviews.
These may be of help - click on the links:
vaksam.tripod.com/1.html
vaksam.tripod.com/npdglance.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq82.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faqpd.html
Healing and Curing Narcissism
vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html
vaksam.tripod.com/10.html
vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html
vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html
vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html
vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html
Links to Therapist Directories, Psychological Tests, NPD Resources, Support
Groups for narcissists and their victims, and Tutorials:
groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/5458
Support groups for victims of narcissists and psychopaths (and one or two
groups for narcissists)
dmoz.org/Health/Mental_Health/Disorders/Personality/Narcissistic/Support_Groups/
@@samvaknin Sir your message is educative and liberating.
I think men are evil🤷 Please continue to stay away from women please. You are doing the lord's work.
The funny thing is your not wrong. Most women are as you described.
.even the nicest most "caring " women who claim to be loyal and trustworthy can be the worst.
I have no faith in western women in this modern day and age. Social media has messed them up.
Hmmm. My ex narc and I had very kinky sex. He loved slapping my face, calling me a wh***, and listening to me tell stories of other men (all during sex), but there were also times of ‘vanilla’ sex. In either case, he always made sure I reached orgasm before he did. I wonder why that is. (His lack of selfishness in this area.)
Micaela Micaela same
Me too
He wanted you to climax first so youd be revved up to give him his orgasm - usually orally so he could relax after . its not selfless giving sex...it's calculated so he can go to sleep after climax and not work at you coming. Its all planned out....sad huh?
@@smilinazzdoggy825 oh, he did for sure. That I know for certain. lol
To prove himself? I would say he knew orgasms are hard to reach for women and knowing he's one of the few that can do it was a building thought for him.
He actually told me once when I asked to be held that i should wait for him to hold me....and said woman always want more..
Perfect description of the typical narcissistic misogyny in their relationship.
Sounds like a woman I thought I knew for 9 years until her mask fell off. This goes both ways. There are male and female narcs who fit this description. Setting my boundaries to energetically repel these demons!
Thank you so so so much sir for explaining the true realities. For young boys especially.
Hey,no wonder they ask for Priv pics,thank you sir,I believe you all the way.
My ex too... No sex but pics... Insane.
This is spot on.
I truly hope that a one of the scurvy shady horrible things he's done to me and others haunt him soon.
could some narcissists be latent homosexuals then if they hate women so much ???
Homosexuality and narcissism samvak.tripod.com/faq18.html
yes,
I think that narcissists can't relate well with people in general & are scared of emotional intimacy regardless of gender of the partner. From personal experience, I was close friends with a gay narcissist, who hated men mainly because he was abandoned by his father at a young age. Needles to say, I received the same treatment from him as the guys he hated. He idolised all women & I fell for it
@@sanniichigo949 I’m sry
Nice cope
you should do voice over work, your voice would do good in that field.
Now that narcissist revisited is so articulated, thank you Sam Vaknin!Where are the paths to cease and desist narcissism revisited?
My ex would constantly travel like a mad man....even if he had just finished a business trip he never made time for us...
What do you do if you are the son of an npd mother, and you were her golden son your whole life, you spent your life being the perfect successful son she wanted, living in the rich snobbish towns we would move to, she isolated us(my sisters and I) physically from any family, and psychologically from friends, saying they were bad, then when you were seventeen years old, she divorced your dad, and randomly moved three thousand miles away into the woods, leaving you behind in the rich town, she then preceded to tell your sisters she had to move because you were unstable, and ungrateful?
Now you're left with no family, difficulty keeping friends, and
completely confused about where you came from, and where to go, if you try to
bring up that there may have been problems in the family, the npd mother laughs
at you and says it’s all in your head.
This is my story, I feel like no one can understand, what do I do?
+Scott J You should treat your mother as you would any other narcissistic abuser: NO CONTACT. Narcissistic and psychopathic parents and their children - click on the links:
groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/narcissisticabuse/conversations/messages/4727
I can relate
The results I saw with golden child brother unfortunately was suicide.
Ur bang on bro coz IM THEE EXACT SAME... MAD EH?
Very much true, so sad. Great analysis, thank you for this video
9:20, Now you tell me! 13 years later!
If my N feels I've done him wrong in some way (by not congratulating for gracing the world with his presence) he'll go on 30 minute lectures about my misbehavior& almost always without fail by the end of the conversation his tirade is turned into examples of how I'm exactly like his mother. He speaks of his mom with such venom it always makes me uncomfortable. I've met his mom& she seems ok & when I say that he tells me I don't really know her true self because she didn't protect him as a child.
What if they didn’t have a mother figure in their life? The experience I had with a narc. He told me stories about his father’s humiliating abuse, and multiple women.
This is why I can get along with narcissists but never psychopaths.
Very descriptive video. Thank you.
Hi Sam could you comment on Narcissism in women please.
samvak.tripod.com/faq34.html
At the risk of receiving some flak here....no man (narc or otherwise) wants to end up with the town bike.
@@SuperLucylola Your words not mine. I'll rephrase my original post a bit (I don't even remember posting on this vid to be honest). I don't want to end up with the town bike.
@@SuperLucylola That's fine. That's your choice I assume. As much as my original post was something of a sweeping generalisation it's also true that all men don't act like predatory dogs in heat.
@@SuperLucylola I don't buy that. Some guys are shy. It's true we're all wired to procreate though and that does complicate things if you find someone attractive. It's matter of respect though, all men aren't neanderthals. Personally speaking at my age pursuing the opposite sex isn't too high on my agenda.
@@SuperLucylola Yeah I know there's some assholes out there. I've crossed paths with a couple of female narcs in my life but I don't give them any press good or bad if I can help it. . I don't even think we're disagreeing on anything here really. Thanks for the chat SLL. Good luck and stay safe and happy.
I agree that they do love, but their priorities are always wrong and they have an extreme sense of entitlement.
agree fully about narcissists being bad people, but there are certain narcissistic traits most people have which does not lead them to causing other people harm
It took me to be 27 years old to find out i have the madonna/whore complex, i never wanted to find out what i was cause i was scared to know what i am, i stopped going out with women cause if they didn’t do what i told them I couldn’t keep it up, and it was humiliating for me, is it possible that this hatred for woman could have been developed later in life say in middle school with bad relationships experiences? Say i was in love with a girl who said who loved me but made out with a lot of other guys and that pissed me off a lot, caused me depression cause in my mind, my ego couldn’t handled it, i would think why would she do this to me, im handsome, have money, im athletic and smart, can these guys are shit compare to me, is this the kind of thoughts and repress hate cause this psychic impotence?
Dear Dr Vaknin,
first of all.. id like to thank you for youre knowlidge and expertice.. my ex ( a woman ) lied to me about my child not being my child... i try to see my (child) because i love hem like my own son.. ive been to court and.. the judge says that i can see hem.. but my ex refusis... i dony know where she lives and eighter do the judge says that i csn see him.. now she apiels... what can i do?
how do I treat my narcissism?
Healing and Curing Narcissism
vaksam.tripod.com/faq63.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq77.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq70.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq12.html
vaksam.tripod.com/10.html
vaksam.tripod.com/case03.html
vaksam.tripod.com/faq31.html
vaksam.tripod.com/abusefamily8.html
vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders37.html
vaksam.tripod.com/personalitydisorders45.html
thank you
What is it that you mean by mutually exclusive and mutually expressive proposition
im a narcissist
. plain and simple
ninjatechno8 ME too
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