but it does give you an in sight into religious belief....in 2014 84% of the worlds population believed in a god...thats an amazing figure given there is ZERO evidence for a god
@@Pmrace1960We’re at a stage in human development where we will either overcome the ancient ignorance that plagued humanity since the beginning or it will take us down. This time that we are in was always inevitable. We are the lucky ones who will get to see which direction it goes.
@@Alltime2050 think christianity certainly in europe is dying and in the US believe it is down in the last 10 years from 74% to 63%.....islam is going to be much more difficult to shift
@@Pmrace1960 The Middle East us going to get burned out by climate change. They'll either rethink it then or double down on the crazy the way Christians do.
My mother believes these two things simultaneously so let me explain the thought process here: these people don't think psychology is real because they don't think anything in the brain is caused naturally. They think everything is either demons or God. They think different psychological phenomena (among other things) are different types of demons. Autism is a type of demon to these people. Vaccines are basically demon dispensers. Other things that they think are caused by demons include: illness, pain, poverty, negative emotions, being gay, being trans, being a dick, doubt/unbelief, any temptation to do anything that is against God's plan for you (usually this mean going to college)
You can teach a monkey calculus all you want but if that monkey keeps smashing the calculator and saying 1+1=2 is a lie, then there's nothing you can do.
I believe these people have lost trust in late stage capitalism, this is a symptom of the system because it creates snake oil salesmen. They can sell you anything and as long as you're convinced it will be something new for you and get those endorphins in your brain going and makes you feel good you'll believe it. Science isn't easy, it's a complicated, nuanced and heavily debated topic that requires a person to understand lots of different fields of study and sometimes mathematics. That means if you actually want to do more than just read a pamphlet in a hospital you have to go online and research it. The problem is nobody is going out and reading medical journals and actual reports from scientists directly. Instead it's easier to have the algorithm feed you information instead so you can be sold lies, you'll buy your antivax t-shirts and it's just frustrating.
Well if you're taught from birth that gods and devils and angels and demons and magic and witchcraft and talking animals are real....... anything and EVERYTHING is possible. "religion is harmless, people" well I don't think so.
Love the way you two walked this woman through her presentations of fallacies and superstitions with open hands. In particular, it felt VERY validating that you chose to start with the conversation with the "vaccines causing autism" conspiracy, because as an autistic person, that sh*t is dangerous. I'm sure most of the people commenting in here will recognize that this both conflates AND stigmatizes the experience of the condition, with completely unrelated (and necessary) preventative medical treatment. Plus I just find it infuriating attempting to talk sense into these types myself, given I recognize I'm biased - in that I always get this inkling that they view my experience of the world as an overall negative - feeding into the larger narrative that we need to be "fixed" or "cured" - or in this case avoided in a superstitious sense, which is just... downright insulting. Thanks guys. ❤
When I was a school bus driver, the monitor informed me that this kid's father is an antivaxer because, "Shortly after vaccinating his older son, he started developing autism, so he decided not to vaccinate any of his older children." I said, "You shouldn't have told me that. Now I have zero respect for his father." The rest of the ride was awkwardly silent.
never heard anyone who believed in so many conspiracies....would have never believed such a person existed but it gives you insight how the brain works and does explain how so many believe in a god
@@Pmrace1960They usually believe in several conspiracy theories. Usually, conspiracy theorists suffer from depression also. Also, they are conspiracy theories, not conspiracies.
@@dorkception2012 The funny thing is I actually have. There's hundreds of really smart people, but thanks to indoctrination from childhood, they still believe
My child is autistic. Through her diagnosis, I realized that I and many in my family are undiagnosed adults, because they didn't have the diagnostic tools/understanding they have now. And here's the thing: the most obvious autistic traits tend to emerge between 18 months and 3yrs old. Yes that's when they get a lot of vaccines, but the same is true in unvaccinated children. They've done so many studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated, and they've found that autism occurs at the same rate in born populations. This has been so widely debunked, that the one I've seen being pushed since I had my daughter is: if you took Tylenol when pregnant and your child is now autistic, you may be entitled to compensation." It's been five yrs, they still haven't won that case. And for the record, I really didn't take Tylenol while pregnant, I'm more an ib profin person.
Your comment really hit the nail on the head. It's like noticing how domestic violence seems to be on the rise. If you just look at the numbers, it definitely seems that way. But when you dig a bit deeper, you realize that in the past, people didn't even talk about "Domestic Abuse." Especially in more traditional or religious communities, women were expected to just deal with it. They wouldn't even consider reporting it because there wasn't anywhere to report it to. So yeah, when you only look at the reported cases, it makes it seem like violence against women is skyrocketing. But when you consider all these factors, it's not so straightforward. This totally backs up your point and I think it applies to a lot of different situations.
Maybe a far stretch, but does anyone notice when callers say before they became Christian, there was trauma or depression or whatever was going on and when a host asks how do you know and explain faith is unreasonable and unreliable, that’s when they get defensive? I know its not all the time. When it comes to depression and anxiety, when people hit their rock bottom, they want out as fast as possible and when someone finds a way to manage it, they really don’t wanna go back. I’m starting to wonder if Christians and religions people in general, are just so worried that if they realize God isn’t real, they will go right back to where they were! I can tell in Danielles voice that she dealt with a lot before, and while i feel for her and glad she got better, she took another dangerous move lol
Many people turn to religion when they are very low, or at their lowest. They find support, compassion and companionship and sadly get sucked into religion.
I feel it's like how some people turn to drugs and alcohol in their lowest points. It makes them feel better so they get wrapped up in it, so many of them will fight you on it when you point out that what they are doing is bad for them or that they have a problem. My father is a good example for most off my life he was an alcoholic who was never really there for me. I cut him of about 6 years ago just before he "found Christ". He basically swapped the bottle for the bible. it didn't make him a better person, he now just thinks he is.
Religion, especially Christianity, prey on the most vulnerable. Drug addicts, alcoholics, prisoners, abuse victims are all extremely vulnerable and looking for anything to make themselves feel better. Religion swoops in and sells them a sense of hopefulness that numbs their pain or anxiety similar to opium. Once you're addicted to that feeling, it's really hard to step away.
Weird how she said there are doctors that think differently from one another, so she doesn't trust that, but she trusts god when there are many different religions and denominations.
I feel like im watching two adults abuse a disabled person. Its cruel and sad. She needs mental help and they are just hurting her more by engaging in her mental illness. Its like going along with someone that thinks she is the real cleopatra
You know, at first I laughed, too. Then I thought about it and I decided that it was a pretty great response. She feels "blessed" so she recognizes all she has to be grateful for, and "highly favoured"...maybe she's very comfortable in her life. Honestly, her response could have been a whoopoooole lot more bonkers.
This is what happens when our educatipn system fails to teach science; we have well meaning ignorant people who are easily persuaded to believe nonsense. Sad.
I was a construction worker, hvac, I fell and broke my back in 2003. I have had to deal with doctors whose only concern is that someone not get government benefits. I have dealt with more doctors than most people and it's my experience that they are more concerned with having to face thier colleagues at the country club and explaining how they let a disabled worker get thier benefits, than the medical outcome. I live in Wyoming and their standing in the republican party is more important than my life for sure.
When talking to people who hold these kinds of harmful and detrimental beliefs? Yes, it can be. Warranted, even, considering what they're saying. Make no mistake, just because their using nice words and a pleasant tone does not mean they are speaking kindly.
@@mitchellconner6928 Right, and it's why I'm fine with hosts like Matt Dillihunty ripping into people like this (if he shows some patience first), because they've probably never had anyone do that. Most people they talk to probably just humor or ignore them, and I don't think that makes any kind of impact.
superstition - noun 1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary Merriam-Webster Faith is not a virtue. Faith is gullibility. Faith is the surrender of your mind. Faith is the abandonment of logic and reason. Faith is the surrender of your free will. Faith is your weakness.
Eric's face when he "won the bingo lottery" -- priceless =D omg, flatearthers do exist? It's too much for me. I mean, that girl traveled, and she could (or could she) navigate the map..? Seriously? A wall? omfg my brain hurts...
Do flat earthers also believe the sun and other planets are flat? I ask because the sun would have to be facing us at all times to appear round as it does. What an amazing coincidence that would be, to be pointing at us all the time! All the other planets (which are also flat?) would only get a side view or back view. Is the other side of the flat sun also hot and bright? The other planets are flat too, right? What another amazing coincidence that all the other planets face the earth so that people with telescopes can see them in their entirety, and not just a sliver of the edge.
Conspiracy theories tend to be simple, powerful stories that explain the world. Reality is complex and messy, which is harder for our brains to process. Conspiracy theories instil in believers a sense of superiority. It's an important generator of self-esteem - which will make them resistant to change."
I agree. I made a comment about her lack of knowledge about latitude and longitude. That is just basic stuff that anyone in the service would have to know. Basically she's saying she doesn't know how to read a map. I sure hope she wasn't in any branch of the military. I kinda doubt it.
So I've been in to debunking Flat Earth nonsense for a few years now, and this lady is saying nothing new. The rubbish about the 60th parallel, the Antarctic Treaty, Admiral Byrd and High Jump etc. All of it, and I do mean all, is either misrepresentation (ie the Antarctic Treaty "forbidding" people to go, it doesn't) or misunderstanding (Byrd is often quoted out of context for his expedition or mixed up with High Jump which while commanded by Byrd was a different expedition).
I wish they would have asked her if she herself had gotten vaccinated. I’m so glad I didn’t get polio, small pox, tetanus, rubella, etc. I hear kids are getting these diseases now because of outrageously frightened parents.
I suffer from bipolar disorder. Without my divaloprex I have quarterly severe swings I'm both my mood and my thought processes. Mania is a condition I wouldn't wish on anybody, and the only reason I've managed to stop burning bridges and put my life together is the field of psychology. This woman would have me go back to those terrible times and life ruining issues. How can a modern person, with intelligent and capable friends, be this ignorant?
Start with flat earth. Does she have an explanation for ship's disappearing over the horizon, and why sailors think if they climb the mast they can see further. I suppose God can do magic tricks to make it look like the earth is a sphere, to test our faith in what he told us in Genesis - that it's more like a snow globe.
She works in construction. Has she ever built a bridge? Bridges are designed to account for the curvature of the earth. So if the earth were flat, bridges would be lopsided and our cars would all slide off of them
You should hear the stuff they are saying about the Lahaina fire!! It’s totally insane!! They are so easily manipulated. Anything but science and or weather
"This is what the parents testified to me." The problem is that fundamentalist christians tend to interpret testimony as absolute proof for anything being true, whereas any rational being will recognize that we need more than just testimonial evidence to determine what the truth of anything is.
The United States doesn’t have any territory in Antarctica. Seven sovereign states - Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway, and the United Kingdom - have made eight territorial claims in Antarctica. These countries have tended to place their Antarctic scientific observation and study facilities within their respective claimed territories; however, a number of such facilities are located outside of the area claimed by their respective countries of operation, and countries without claims such as China, India, Italy, Japan, Pakistan, Russia, South Africa (SANAE), Poland, and the United States have constructed research facilities within the areas claimed by other countries. There are overlaps among the territories claimed by Argentina, Chile, and the United Kingdom.
It’s sad. But I understand. I was never a conspiracist but I was once as deeply enmeshed in this stuff as she is now. She’s sincere but delusional. Hopefully she’ll remain this committed…until she becomes exhausted by it. That’s the inevitable end point of true, deep devotion.
you can Literally book hollidays to Antarctica....... and yet nobe of these people EVER go there.... and that treaty excuse is nonsense, that's not what it says.... delusional
It's interesting how some people put so much stock in an imaginary friend. Sometimes I wonder if there isn't some therapeutic benefit to treating people with like, secular imaginary friend therapy. Let people design a bestie to unload on and lean on.
I really wish people would stop making this claim, but people do not deserve respect merely for existing. With the caveat that I'm not saying they deserve to be disrespected. They're so quick to acknowledge there's a neutral position to the god proposition but then ignore it when considering respect.
I'm not sure its the education system. My kids aren't like this they go to public school I think it's more the belief of their parents. Not always but alot of the time. Nobody's allowed to challenge them at school. I feel that's the problem.
@@flea8332 Idk she reminds me a lot of my Mom, she's actually holds a lot of these beliefs although she's a bit more aggressive about it than the caller. Either way I think she's no poe but she could be
This person is a prime example of why critical thinking and reasoned logic courses should be taught in school K > 12. She has totally failed at every step to use anything of the kind. It also seems to be a good example of how religious thinking can be a slippery slope into the depths of crazy town.
If theres a dome over earth then where do meteorites come from? If you want video of one, google russia meteorite 2013, you can see one explode in mid air
If you haven't read an entire peer reviewed paper you haven't researched anything. Whiltirr our their now it is worth noting that the premise wasn't out there 30 years ago. While I'd rather the average Joe just get their kids shots on schedule lets not cast dispersions from a perspective of superior knowledge. Read a couple dozen papers on a narrow subject and if you're a reasonable person who lacks expertise you'll reasonably conclude that there are experts who can speak on the subject better, and they're on the internet and remarkably willing to respond to emails (which is nice but probably a bad use of time). I read and read about covid and sure I can recall the papers and some bullet points but that isn't comprehension it's recall, so all I ever did in the pandemic was say here, read this or don't, lets talk about baseball nle. Most of us on any side are really going with the crowd, which is fine if it's a good crowd--making decisions based on peer beliefs and culture isn't defensible in an argument but it's not tenable to read for a hundred hours about everything. The anti-vaxxers who don't know a thing I don't know what to do with because any engagement requires a teach up that they're not inclined towards if it comes out of my mouth and they aren't going to go 10 research papers from their least favorite people. When I encounter the rare duck that does have some shreds of information then great, lets do a lit review together like a couple of psychos. But that generally goes in the same direction theist callers go--why are you accepting this, if you're a skeptic you have to be a radical skeptic but here are some and anecdotes (personal revelation). It's an equivalent waste of time with the exception that occasionally someone will accept a biological fact and great, that was worth ruining the dinner warty, woooo.
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the scariest part isn't that she's so wrong.. but that she worked in the military & in healthcare...& she votes
Mind boggling
It hurts my human pride to know that such people live among us.
but it does give you an in sight into religious belief....in 2014 84% of the worlds population believed in a god...thats an amazing figure given there is ZERO evidence for a god
@@Pmrace1960We’re at a stage in human development where we will either overcome the ancient ignorance that plagued humanity since the beginning or it will take us down. This time that we are in was always inevitable. We are the lucky ones who will get to see which direction it goes.
@@Alltime2050 think christianity certainly in europe is dying and in the US believe it is down in the last 10 years from 74% to 63%.....islam is going to be much more difficult to shift
@@Pmrace1960 The Middle East us going to get burned out by climate change. They'll either rethink it then or double down on the crazy the way Christians do.
And they vote based on their idiotic delusions.
So let get this straight: She thinks Vaccines causes Autism, but also thinks that Psychology is fake? Thats very contradictory.
Well, co19 caused clots so why not?
Ooh, good point! But she didn't say psych*iatry*.
My mother believes these two things simultaneously so let me explain the thought process here: these people don't think psychology is real because they don't think anything in the brain is caused naturally. They think everything is either demons or God. They think different psychological phenomena (among other things) are different types of demons. Autism is a type of demon to these people. Vaccines are basically demon dispensers.
Other things that they think are caused by demons include: illness, pain, poverty, negative emotions, being gay, being trans, being a dick, doubt/unbelief, any temptation to do anything that is against God's plan for you (usually this mean going to college)
Our educational system has failed us.
Well, it’s failed her.
You can teach a monkey calculus all you want but if that monkey keeps smashing the calculator and saying 1+1=2 is a lie, then there's nothing you can do.
Students have to put in time and effort, too. Teachers can lead students to water, but can't make them drink.
@404errorcodeVThis aged very well very quickly. I mean, it was already true, but now it's even more true
This lady is a *True Believer.* In any and everything.
She’s an idiot.
So long as it's batshit crazy.
I believe these people have lost trust in late stage capitalism, this is a symptom of the system because it creates snake oil salesmen. They can sell you anything and as long as you're convinced it will be something new for you and get those endorphins in your brain going and makes you feel good you'll believe it.
Science isn't easy, it's a complicated, nuanced and heavily debated topic that requires a person to understand lots of different fields of study and sometimes mathematics.
That means if you actually want to do more than just read a pamphlet in a hospital you have to go online and research it. The problem is nobody is going out and reading medical journals and actual reports from scientists directly.
Instead it's easier to have the algorithm feed you information instead so you can be sold lies, you'll buy your antivax t-shirts and it's just frustrating.
Well if you're taught from birth that gods and devils and angels and demons and magic and witchcraft and talking animals are real....... anything and EVERYTHING is possible.
"religion is harmless, people" well I don't think so.
Except for the obvious
Love the way you two walked this woman through her presentations of fallacies and superstitions with open hands. In particular, it felt VERY validating that you chose to start with the conversation with the "vaccines causing autism" conspiracy, because as an autistic person, that sh*t is dangerous. I'm sure most of the people commenting in here will recognize that this both conflates AND stigmatizes the experience of the condition, with completely unrelated (and necessary) preventative medical treatment.
Plus I just find it infuriating attempting to talk sense into these types myself, given I recognize I'm biased - in that I always get this inkling that they view my experience of the world as an overall negative - feeding into the larger narrative that we need to be "fixed" or "cured" - or in this case avoided in a superstitious sense, which is just... downright insulting. Thanks guys. ❤
When I was a school bus driver, the monitor informed me that this kid's father is an antivaxer because, "Shortly after vaccinating his older son, he started developing autism, so he decided not to vaccinate any of his older children." I said, "You shouldn't have told me that. Now I have zero respect for his father." The rest of the ride was awkwardly silent.
The fact people like this vote is the biggest argument for an education you could ever make.
"I dont have kids." Well thank "god" she doesnt have kids.
Was thinking the exact same thing. Even more so when we got _back_ to the Flat Earth stuff.
I weep for humanity.
Maybe Ulton was right.
Unhinged people are scary and this one is pretty terrifiyng
sad because she is probably a nice person who is just easily led
This is genuinely 5150 territory.
I bet Danielle only did ‘research’ using the links provided by her favourite conspiracy mongers…. 🤦♀️
never heard anyone who believed in so many conspiracies....would have never believed such a person existed but it gives you insight how the brain works and does explain how so many believe in a god
I’m betting her favorite “research website” is UA-cam 😂
I think you're too optimistic. IMO at most she watched an anti-vaxx YT, probably not even to the end
@@Pmrace1960They usually believe in several conspiracy theories. Usually, conspiracy theorists suffer from depression also.
Also, they are conspiracy theories, not conspiracies.
I’m with you guys. People like this caller fascinate me. How do they fall this far down the rabbit hole and not realize they’re wrong?
Danielle is the reason im voting for the first time in my 34{5} years of living this november
These ppl walk our earth
Scary shit.
you just filled in my entire bingo card
Religion causes good people to do bad things and smart people to believe stupid things😔
I have never seen a smart person truly believe in religion.
@@dorkception2012 The funny thing is I actually have. There's hundreds of really smart people, but thanks to indoctrination from childhood, they still believe
I don’t have enough faith to believe in conspiracy theories.
Imagine thousands of Americans keeping any shared secrets! As if!
Don't forget the other 194 states on this planet that have to be involved.
I need them to talk to Danielle more, is there a compilation out there?
They need to call her every week!
This is another example of gullible gullible people.
she must be a scammers delight
My child is autistic. Through her diagnosis, I realized that I and many in my family are undiagnosed adults, because they didn't have the diagnostic tools/understanding they have now.
And here's the thing: the most obvious autistic traits tend to emerge between 18 months and 3yrs old. Yes that's when they get a lot of vaccines, but the same is true in unvaccinated children. They've done so many studies comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated, and they've found that autism occurs at the same rate in born populations.
This has been so widely debunked, that the one I've seen being pushed since I had my daughter is: if you took Tylenol when pregnant and your child is now autistic, you may be entitled to compensation." It's been five yrs, they still haven't won that case. And for the record, I really didn't take Tylenol while pregnant, I'm more an ib profin person.
Your comment really hit the nail on the head. It's like noticing how domestic violence seems to be on the rise. If you just look at the numbers, it definitely seems that way. But when you dig a bit deeper, you realize that in the past, people didn't even talk about "Domestic Abuse." Especially in more traditional or religious communities, women were expected to just deal with it. They wouldn't even consider reporting it because there wasn't anywhere to report it to. So yeah, when you only look at the reported cases, it makes it seem like violence against women is skyrocketing. But when you consider all these factors, it's not so straightforward. This totally backs up your point and I think it applies to a lot of different situations.
Ibuprofen. Not ib profin. Lol sorry that was driving me nuts
Turtles all the way down... apparently.
This evil woman worked in children's ministry! So typical. Perverting our kid's minds.
Calling someone evil is a lot.
Also that's religious-type wording.
Maybe take it easy...
Maybe a far stretch, but does anyone notice when callers say before they became Christian, there was trauma or depression or whatever was going on and when a host asks how do you know and explain faith is unreasonable and unreliable, that’s when they get defensive? I know its not all the time. When it comes to depression and anxiety, when people hit their rock bottom, they want out as fast as possible and when someone finds a way to manage it, they really don’t wanna go back. I’m starting to wonder if Christians and religions people in general, are just so worried that if they realize God isn’t real, they will go right back to where they were! I can tell in Danielles voice that she dealt with a lot before, and while i feel for her and glad she got better, she took another dangerous move lol
Many people turn to religion when they are very low, or at their lowest. They find support, compassion and companionship and sadly get sucked into religion.
I feel it's like how some people turn to drugs and alcohol in their lowest points. It makes them feel better so they get wrapped up in it, so many of them will fight you on it when you point out that what they are doing is bad for them or that they have a problem.
My father is a good example for most off my life he was an alcoholic who was never really there for me. I cut him of about 6 years ago just before he "found Christ". He basically swapped the bottle for the bible.
it didn't make him a better person, he now just thinks he is.
Religion, especially Christianity, prey on the most vulnerable. Drug addicts, alcoholics, prisoners, abuse victims are all extremely vulnerable and looking for anything to make themselves feel better. Religion swoops in and sells them a sense of hopefulness that numbs their pain or anxiety similar to opium.
Once you're addicted to that feeling, it's really hard to step away.
That’s when they get you … indoctrination is easiest when you’re young and/or vulnerable.
She really needs help.
Sadly, she doesn't believe in getting that kind of help - 'cause psychology bad.
Weird how she said there are doctors that think differently from one another, so she doesn't trust that, but she trusts god when there are many different religions and denominations.
I feel like im watching two adults abuse a disabled person. Its cruel and sad.
She needs mental help and they are just hurting her more by engaging in her mental illness.
Its like going along with someone that thinks she is the real cleopatra
Can you imagine that poeple like this can have kids and are allowed to homeschool them. It's terryfiing.
Such a great episode, demonstrates the danger of the internet on people who unfortunately lack a good education in STEM
' iam blessed and higly favoured ' FFTS !
You know, at first I laughed, too. Then I thought about it and I decided that it was a pretty great response. She feels "blessed" so she recognizes all she has to be grateful for, and "highly favoured"...maybe she's very comfortable in her life.
Honestly, her response could have been a whoopoooole lot more bonkers.
@@JenOween my advice would be read a book any book but the one you cling to
This is what happens when our educatipn system fails to teach science; we have well meaning ignorant people who are easily persuaded to believe nonsense. Sad.
Did she ever get on the show again? I'd love to hear some follow up talks
no she was quickly recaptured
"Dumber than a box of rocks." is the term that comes to mind.
How the hell did she pass any exam to allow her to enter the military and be someone who takes care of people.
She lost me at "I'm a flat-earther". Everything after that was just an annoying, buzzing noise.
I was a construction worker, hvac, I fell and broke my back in 2003. I have had to deal with doctors whose only concern is that someone not get government benefits. I have dealt with more doctors than most people and it's my experience that they are more concerned with having to face thier colleagues at the country club and explaining how they let a disabled worker get thier benefits, than the medical outcome. I live in Wyoming and their standing in the republican party is more important than my life for sure.
That church to bars analogy was spot on. Unfortunately it went so far over head she never even knew it was there.
It sure didn't sound like she was faking it here, but I find people like this a bit unpredictable and sometimes scary....
Very scary.
These kind of calls are so depressing. The hosts are _far_ to kind to people like this.
Would being unkind help in any way though?
@@darkevesfalling I would find it less frustrating to watch. Though beyond that, no, probably not.
When talking to people who hold these kinds of harmful and detrimental beliefs? Yes, it can be. Warranted, even, considering what they're saying. Make no mistake, just because their using nice words and a pleasant tone does not mean they are speaking kindly.
@@mitchellconner6928 Right, and it's why I'm fine with hosts like Matt Dillihunty ripping into people like this (if he shows some patience first), because they've probably never had anyone do that. Most people they talk to probably just humor or ignore them, and I don't think that makes any kind of impact.
She is so much like my mother, I am soooooooo glad she doesn't have kids
I'm sure Danielle looked great on the Capitol security footage from January 6th.
superstition - noun
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
Merriam-Webster
Faith is not a virtue. Faith is gullibility. Faith is the surrender of your mind. Faith is the abandonment of logic and reason. Faith is the surrender of your free will. Faith is your weakness.
That's one messed up gal.
It’s always a relationship…until April 15th, then it’s a religion again.
Correlation is not causation.
Eric's face when he "won the bingo lottery" -- priceless =D
omg, flatearthers do exist? It's too much for me. I mean, that girl traveled, and she could (or could she) navigate the map..? Seriously? A wall? omfg my brain hurts...
Do flat earthers also believe the sun and other planets are flat? I ask because the sun would have to be facing us at all times to appear round as it does. What an amazing coincidence that would be, to be pointing at us all the time! All the other planets (which are also flat?) would only get a side view or back view. Is the other side of the flat sun also hot and bright? The other planets are flat too, right? What another amazing coincidence that all the other planets face the earth so that people with telescopes can see them in their entirety, and not just a sliver of the edge.
They don't believe that the sun and other planets are celestial bodies.
From what I’ve seen, no they don’t, because reasons.
Most of them believe that other planets are spherical. But the Earth is flat because we are such special people.
@@bryanmack5410 How do these people find their mouths when they eat?
@@martinpenwald9475 Too weird.
Conspiracy theories tend to be simple, powerful stories that explain the world. Reality is complex and messy, which is harder for our brains to process.
Conspiracy theories instil in believers a sense of superiority. It's an important generator of self-esteem - which will make them resistant to change."
I had a long conversation with a flat-Earther. I think he's coming around. 😉
gawd dang i wish i was playing with a "belief" bingo card !
the lead in our water has to be a cause of some of this
Thank god for doctor Danielle and her “research”.
If she was in any branch of the military it’s just not plausible to me that she believes all this.
I agree. I made a comment about her lack of knowledge about latitude and longitude. That is just basic stuff that anyone in the service would have to know. Basically she's saying she doesn't know how to read a map. I sure hope she wasn't in any branch of the military. I kinda doubt it.
So I've been in to debunking Flat Earth nonsense for a few years now, and this lady is saying nothing new. The rubbish about the 60th parallel, the Antarctic Treaty, Admiral Byrd and High Jump etc. All of it, and I do mean all, is either misrepresentation (ie the Antarctic Treaty "forbidding" people to go, it doesn't) or misunderstanding (Byrd is often quoted out of context for his expedition or mixed up with High Jump which while commanded by Byrd was a different expedition).
dont think we need to debunk flat earthers....like saying we have to debunk people who believe in santa
I wish they would have asked her if she herself had gotten vaccinated. I’m so glad I didn’t get polio, small pox, tetanus, rubella, etc. I hear kids are getting these diseases now because of outrageously frightened parents.
I suffer from bipolar disorder. Without my divaloprex I have quarterly severe swings I'm both my mood and my thought processes. Mania is a condition I wouldn't wish on anybody, and the only reason I've managed to stop burning bridges and put my life together is the field of psychology. This woman would have me go back to those terrible times and life ruining issues. How can a modern person, with intelligent and capable friends, be this ignorant?
Pinellas county Florida has the most churches and bars per capital. Explains why there's so much crime.
Start with flat earth. Does she have an explanation for ship's disappearing over the horizon, and why sailors think if they climb the mast they can see further. I suppose God can do magic tricks to make it look like the earth is a sphere, to test our faith in what he told us in Genesis - that it's more like a snow globe.
Guarantee she believes in Santa Claus and leprechauns
This is absolutely wild...
She works in construction. Has she ever built a bridge? Bridges are designed to account for the curvature of the earth. So if the earth were flat, bridges would be lopsided and our cars would all slide off of them
She can NOT be real ...
Real crazy.
So that would mean the polio vaccine makes people astronauts, sound the same ....... Right? This truly bends my mind to the breaking point.
You should hear the stuff they are saying about the Lahaina fire!! It’s totally insane!! They are so easily manipulated. Anything but science and or weather
A lot of people who call in start showing signs of faltering after a while, but Danielle, I don't think she has changed her mind even a little bit
I do not hate her, I just never would like to get close to people like her.
"This is what the parents testified to me."
The problem is that fundamentalist christians tend to interpret testimony as absolute proof for anything being true, whereas any rational being will recognize that we need more than just testimonial evidence to determine what the truth of anything is.
Can someone help me out....what is a po? Is it like a troll?
Yeah. I think it's someone who just calls in to waste the hosts time
@@highwaydaytime7669 thanks, appreciate your response. I'm Autistic, so I often feel I've 'missed' something!
@@TheCatsWhiskers76 yeah no worries.
A wall to hide the base of the dome?
bingo card indeed sorry to hear it was from abuse trauma i hope she finds some shrooms to shake her off pattern and good therapists
Wow. This woman is completely insane. I am surprised that she is not wearing a tinfoil hat.
if they have to ask if the caller is trolling at the beginning…. 😔
The United States doesn’t have any territory in Antarctica.
Seven sovereign states - Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway, and the United Kingdom - have made eight territorial claims in Antarctica. These countries have tended to place their Antarctic scientific observation and study facilities within their respective claimed territories; however, a number of such facilities are located outside of the area claimed by their respective countries of operation, and countries without claims such as China, India, Italy, Japan, Pakistan, Russia, South Africa (SANAE), Poland, and the United States have constructed research facilities within the areas claimed by other countries. There are overlaps among the territories claimed by Argentina, Chile, and the United Kingdom.
Don't treat insane people like Danielle with respect. She does not deserve it.
No respect for her. She is awful.
It’s sad. But I understand. I was never a conspiracist but I was once as deeply enmeshed in this stuff as she is now. She’s sincere but delusional. Hopefully she’ll remain this committed…until she becomes exhausted by it. That’s the inevitable end point of true, deep devotion.
How do you it isn't Vanilla Ice?
She knows hospitals, mental hospitals, from the inside ...................
would she buy a car without seeing???? the Antarctic Treaty has nothing to with the shape of the earth lol she watches too much GOT lol
The only good news is she doesn't have kids. Insanity of this sort is tragic.
I have multiple college degrees. I never heard one of them talk about god. They taught their damn subjects and those had nothing about religion
Wow. Words fail me.
you can Literally book hollidays to Antarctica....... and yet nobe of these people EVER go there....
and that treaty excuse is nonsense, that's not what it says.... delusional
18:46 danielle is laughing. danielle does not know that is not a good thing. don’t be like danielle.
She serially finds communities through confirmation bias
The way to show a relationship with God is exactly the same as multiple personality relationship. It's completely internal and surprising sometimes.
Sad and funny.
It's interesting how some people put so much stock in an imaginary friend. Sometimes I wonder if there isn't some therapeutic benefit to treating people with like, secular imaginary friend therapy. Let people design a bestie to unload on and lean on.
I really wish people would stop making this claim, but people do not deserve respect merely for existing. With the caveat that I'm not saying they deserve to be disrespected. They're so quick to acknowledge there's a neutral position to the god proposition but then ignore it when considering respect.
Lousianna, hurter we go, and she says she is a flat farther, what a surprise.
I'm not sure its the education system. My kids aren't like this they go to public school I think it's more the belief of their parents. Not always but alot of the time. Nobody's allowed to challenge them at school. I feel that's the problem.
I think she is just trolling. She giggles when she talks
she could be nervous. I wouldn't hold it against her.
@@WooliteMammoth i agree but something just did not seem right about it
@@flea8332Do you expect conspiracy theorists to "seem right" lol
@@N_IRL Not at all but this just has a trolling feeling about it
@@flea8332 Idk she reminds me a lot of my Mom, she's actually holds a lot of these beliefs although she's a bit more aggressive about it than the caller. Either way I think she's no poe but she could be
"Highly favored"? narcissist
This person is a prime example of why critical thinking and reasoned logic courses should be taught in school K > 12.
She has totally failed at every step to use anything of the kind.
It also seems to be a good example of how religious thinking can be a slippery slope into the depths of crazy town.
Some people don't deserve oxygen
Of course, some conspiracy theories did turn out to be true, but some stuff is just batshit crazy.
If theres a dome over earth then where do meteorites come from? If you want video of one, google russia meteorite 2013, you can see one explode in mid air
For entertainment only 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
This is an old call .
My cousin sounds just like that
If you haven't read an entire peer reviewed paper you haven't researched anything. Whiltirr our their now it is worth noting that the premise wasn't out there 30 years ago. While I'd rather the average Joe just get their kids shots on schedule lets not cast dispersions from a perspective of superior knowledge. Read a couple dozen papers on a narrow subject and if you're a reasonable person who lacks expertise you'll reasonably conclude that there are experts who can speak on the subject better, and they're on the internet and remarkably willing to respond to emails (which is nice but probably a bad use of time). I read and read about covid and sure I can recall the papers and some bullet points but that isn't comprehension it's recall, so all I ever did in the pandemic was say here, read this or don't, lets talk about baseball nle. Most of us on any side are really going with the crowd, which is fine if it's a good crowd--making decisions based on peer beliefs and culture isn't defensible in an argument but it's not tenable to read for a hundred hours about everything. The anti-vaxxers who don't know a thing I don't know what to do with because any engagement requires a teach up that they're not inclined towards if it comes out of my mouth and they aren't going to go 10 research papers from their least favorite people. When I encounter the rare duck that does have some shreds of information then great, lets do a lit review together like a couple of psychos. But that generally goes in the same direction theist callers go--why are you accepting this, if you're a skeptic you have to be a radical skeptic but here are some and anecdotes (personal revelation). It's an equivalent waste of time with the exception that occasionally someone will accept a biological fact and great, that was worth ruining the dinner warty, woooo.