"Compromise is the shared hypotenuse of the conjoined triangles of success" I can't explain why I love that line so much. He looks so proud to explain that bit of it.
Silicon Valley is the genius business show of this century. It exposes the BS the upper management office says and gets away with and it exposes the dirty insider secrets of starting a public startup and the maneuvering that goes on in board rooms and the nonsense. The technical trickery the camaraderie everything. And it's just funny as hell. But it's better than any nba. Just watch every season and write down everything that happens and take notes. It's a master business class.
I agree. Saw that first hand. What I do not like is that rollercoaster story telling. Every time they fail they succeed. Every time they succeed, they fail. It‘s boring.
@@hatersgonnalovethisIt's more realistic that they stumbled into success, or as you say that every time they failed - they succeed, and vice versa. They were inexperienced and naïve - regardless of how talented or revolutionary were their ideas. Really makes Gavin's character stand out from the rest, he kept the company alive in such a rapidly evolving field. I wouldn't exactly call him a good leader or good investor or visionary, but playing by the rules only moves people towards short-term goals and success. It also shows how a single person isn't enough for long-term success in such field, and the importance of having rivals instead of friends.
I love how confusing and unhelpful that poster is. When you take a business class, you see a bunch of diagrams like that in textbooks and wonder if you’re just dumb and don’t understand it. No, the diagram is dumb and someone made it up to appear smart.
Advertising! Advertising! Advertising! Why build a product when you can sell it beforehand? Why hire engineers when you can hire managers? And if that doesn't work out, and the project fails, you can fire everybody...:D
Anyone who has ever gone to business school, or taken 1 years of business classes will have a deep appreciation for Jack Barkers 'Conjoined Triangles of Success' .
The higher your level of business education the more simplistic and abstract become the teachings so you soon get to the level of kindergarten or you're drawing boxes and telling people to stay in or outside the box.
Honestly, any field where the emphasis becomes about teaching theory will find a place within the conjoined triangles. I have seen some *crazed* diagrams supposedly supporting best practice, usually pushed by someone with third-hand experience.
my strategy professor who went to harvard (AB, MBA, PhD) talks exactly like this, but in reference to strategy terms like PESTEL and Five Forces. it's low key insufferable. but i think he's smart. i honestly cant tell.
There are plenty of smart people who haven’t done an ounce of application of any theory a day in their lives. They are smart, but a lot of times lack real world context that is really important when it comes to decision making.
@@Dheeidjdndbd the thing is he has like 20+ years of experience in consulting. but he never worked at a big firm, he started his consulting practice after his PhD and just stuck with it. im not gonna lie it all sounded like mumbo jumbo to me lol.
@@dixonyamada6969 exactly he consulted but never actually did any of the in the weeds shit to implement this stuff. He would go in and say “you need a team who does x. And fire y people here” but was never an operator so he doesn’t understand the knock on effects well enough to make the best decisions in a real world environment as opposed to an academic vacuum.
@@xandercrews4729 the math for computers was worked out like a hundred years before we could make them. Then, when we could, the math was already there waiting.
Yeah it's hip and yet also perfectly captures a semi-banal fall from grace. The colors and the stiff pace of walking through the data center was also pretty great!
These dudes are always the same. They use all of the positive rhetoric, they speak with inspiring terms, then they develop a nonsense framework to peddle to their peers and leadership... Then turn around and just do what’s the cheapest and what will progress their careers.
@@steverogers7601 it’s not “rhetoric”, it’s human nature. You want to a.) make the most money you can in your job while b.) paying the least money you can in everything you purchase. I GUARANTEE you have never once in your life looked at an item and said “kind sir, I want to pay MORE than what you are asking for that product. I do not want to pay the cheapest I can get it, I want to pay more than what is necessary! 😂” Does that make you “cheap as fuck” and “selfish”? Of course not. It makes you human. If you ever run a business, you would do the exact same thing. This whole “‘rich and powerful people are keeping us down, brooooooo” bullshit you are spewing reeks of somebody who doesn’t have the talent, drive, and initiative to get ahead in life and resorts to jealousy in snide UA-cam comments to cope. Pretty sure this is the case with you, I’m sorry. Take care.
When I was in business school this is the bs they teach people. I currently have an amazing job in the tech sector as a manger. I see fresh mba hires all the time talking about how they’re going to change everything. They all talk with the same BS business buzzwords. How they will be the new CEO and get upset when they don’t get promoted quickly. A lot leave and I get pings from them years later hoping they can get their old job back. My company pays extremely well and is honestly amazing. It took me years and luck to get where I am. They all think every company is like mine. The real world is super scary if you don’t have real connections to hook you up.
The worker hostage situation is based off an event that actually happened lol look up Chip Starnes. Flew to Beijing to lay off a factory and they took him hostage/kept him there against his will. Police refused to interfere, stating that it was a matter of labour negotiations and not a kidnapping 😂😂😂
This entire season made me want to yell at Richard "just take the money!" I guess that was every season, but this one was the best at executing the tease. Barker had the one good money-making product in the entire series.
Yeah but every single time he turned down more and more money led him to the final ultimate choice where he had to destroy his baby instead of becoming super rich off of it and destabilizing the world. They had to be the ones to make that choice. Anyone else might have gotten it wrong. - mordin
Offer me two million dollars for anything and I'm taking that deal and vanishing to a small home in the countryside to spend the rest of my days doing part-time contract work on my own terms and never fucking with anything ever again.
@@DevoutSkepticthat’s been the most common excuse for shitty behavior since the dawn of man. We’re all responsible for our own choices, nobody else’s
Its funny but he isn't wrong. I work in tech, and I have seen so many times the tech team obsessed with building something that doesn't take into account customer needs. The have shocked pickachu face when whatever was implemented its lambasted or worse, ignored completely
I've met too many of these people. A very small fraction of them know what they're talking about. The rest are just placeholders to be shuffled around by the people who are really in charge.
Because their conjoined, they form a square. And the people who build the Conjoined Triangles of Success will be working in cubicles. It almost writes itself.
In a sense, all of the characters are stereotypes observed from people who used to work in tech, not surprising that they'd resemble some famous ones, though I get more of aa Bill Gates vibe from this guy
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Brilliant writing. 'Conjoined triangles of success' aka a box, of which he literally cannot think outside of.
but now they teach it at howard!
Also, Merry christmas
and then he literally becomes a hostage because of it. so funny
Nice explanation. Never thought of it like that.
That's such a good observation, makes it even funnier!
And literally building 😂
"Compromise is the shared hypotenuse of the conjoined triangles of success" I can't explain why I love that line so much. He looks so proud to explain that bit of it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not just impressed, but surprised that it was pointed out.
why is it funny? cause nobody gets the angle they wanted?
He's so proud Richard pointed it out lol
Didn’t he put one of his conjoined triangles on George’s head and turned him into an Eggplant in the 90s?
"You're right... I did that wrong." Gotta love Tobo.
The funny thing is if he had left out the last question out of his Google monologue, it would have been a pretty good speech.
@jkta97 It still was a pretty good speech because Tobo is just that good
Silicon Valley is the genius business show of this century. It exposes the BS the upper management office says and gets away with and it exposes the dirty insider secrets of starting a public startup and the maneuvering that goes on in board rooms and the nonsense. The technical trickery the camaraderie everything. And it's just funny as hell. But it's better than any nba. Just watch every season and write down everything that happens and take notes. It's a master business class.
I agree. Saw that first hand. What I do not like is that rollercoaster story telling. Every time they fail they succeed. Every time they succeed, they fail. It‘s boring.
@@hatersgonnalovethisIt's more realistic that they stumbled into success, or as you say that every time they failed - they succeed, and vice versa. They were inexperienced and naïve - regardless of how talented or revolutionary were their ideas.
Really makes Gavin's character stand out from the rest, he kept the company alive in such a rapidly evolving field. I wouldn't exactly call him a good leader or good investor or visionary, but playing by the rules only moves people towards short-term goals and success.
It also shows how a single person isn't enough for long-term success in such field, and the importance of having rivals instead of friends.
@@hatersgonnalovethis And the sombre music every time they 'fail'
I love how confusing and unhelpful that poster is. When you take a business class, you see a bunch of diagrams like that in textbooks and wonder if you’re just dumb and don’t understand it. No, the diagram is dumb and someone made it up to appear smart.
The diagram itself is usually meaningless, it just exists as a vehicle to deliver the words
"A box. They make a box. You can't make that shit up" 😂😂😂
But you did
@@omkarbhambure9530 Yes, I did. And now, they teach it at business schools.
Developers! Developers! Developers!
Advertising! Advertising! Advertising! Why build a product when you can sell it beforehand? Why hire engineers when you can hire managers? And if that doesn't work out, and the project fails, you can fire everybody...:D
Anyone who has ever gone to business school, or taken 1 years of business classes will have a deep appreciation for Jack Barkers 'Conjoined Triangles of Success' .
The higher your level of business education the more simplistic and abstract become the teachings so you soon get to the level of kindergarten or you're drawing boxes and telling people to stay in or outside the box.
Honestly, any field where the emphasis becomes about teaching theory will find a place within the conjoined triangles. I have seen some *crazed* diagrams supposedly supporting best practice, usually pushed by someone with third-hand experience.
".. but i was referring to the serendipity of the coincidence" 😂.
Great writing!
I love the actor's delivery of that line as well
Anyone that's had a Business Strategy class has dealt with this shit
This is frightening close to reality in almost every sector of commercial society 😅
my strategy professor who went to harvard (AB, MBA, PhD) talks exactly like this, but in reference to strategy terms like PESTEL and Five Forces. it's low key insufferable. but i think he's smart. i honestly cant tell.
There are plenty of smart people who haven’t done an ounce of application of any theory a day in their lives.
They are smart, but a lot of times lack real world context that is really important when it comes to decision making.
@@Dheeidjdndbd the thing is he has like 20+ years of experience in consulting. but he never worked at a big firm, he started his consulting practice after his PhD and just stuck with it. im not gonna lie it all sounded like mumbo jumbo to me lol.
@@dixonyamada6969 exactly he consulted but never actually did any of the in the weeds shit to implement this stuff. He would go in and say “you need a team who does x. And fire y people here” but was never an operator so he doesn’t understand the knock on effects well enough to make the best decisions in a real world environment as opposed to an academic vacuum.
@@dixonyamada6969Then he's probably never done application of things at any point in his life
Wow. This is way too close to reality for me. Only my manager’s “chart” was a bunch of overlapping circles. That was an interesting first meeting.
This actor is crazy underrated. He’s so hilarious
Also was great in Californication among other things
Stephen Tobolowski
Ned
RYERSON
@@gorgolyt …bing?
"I never said Sammy Jankis was faking..."
Jack Barker was actually a good CEO. He made Richard and the gang excited about building his box
He was terrible lol
And now they teach it in business schools
Funny thing, I went to business school and they actually teach this kind of shit there.
That’s basically how I see all the Business Management lectures, math and Econs are better
Bro, econs also full of sh*t, especially the macroeconomics part. But yeah math is way better
Im glad we all agree Mathematics wins
@@highviewbarbell with no application, math is pointless
@@xandercrews4729 the math for computers was worked out like a hundred years before we could make them. Then, when we could, the math was already there waiting.
Economics was my fave business class, finance was second because it's so useful. I hated Marketing LOL
Tech people working in Silicon Valley say they hate watching this show because of how accurate it is
Love the music as Jack goes to his personal Hell in Sub-Basement D!
Yeah it's hip and yet also perfectly captures a semi-banal fall from grace. The colors and the stiff pace of walking through the data center was also pretty great!
These dudes are always the same. They use all of the positive rhetoric, they speak with inspiring terms, then they develop a nonsense framework to peddle to their peers and leadership...
Then turn around and just do what’s the cheapest and what will progress their careers.
People do the same thing. We all want the cheapest possible price in whatever we buy.
@@latinolawdog5067 this is the kind of rhetoric that eventually devolves into “At the end of the day, nothing really matters so why not!”
@@steverogers7601 it’s not “rhetoric”, it’s human nature. You want to a.) make the most money you can in your job while b.) paying the least money you can in everything you purchase.
I GUARANTEE you have never once in your life looked at an item and said “kind sir, I want to pay MORE than what you are asking for that product. I do not want to pay the cheapest I can get it, I want to pay more than what is necessary! 😂”
Does that make you “cheap as fuck” and “selfish”? Of course not. It makes you human. If you ever run a business, you would do the exact same thing.
This whole “‘rich and powerful people are keeping us down, brooooooo” bullshit you are spewing reeks of somebody who doesn’t have the talent, drive, and initiative to get ahead in life and resorts to jealousy in snide UA-cam comments to cope. Pretty sure this is the case with you, I’m sorry. Take care.
He’s such a tool, just the perfect portrayal
When I was in business school this is the bs they teach people. I currently have an amazing job in the tech sector as a manger. I see fresh mba hires all the time talking about how they’re going to change everything. They all talk with the same BS business buzzwords. How they will be the new CEO and get upset when they don’t get promoted quickly. A lot leave and I get pings from them years later hoping they can get their old job back. My company pays extremely well and is honestly amazing. It took me years and luck to get where I am. They all think every company is like mine. The real world is super scary if you don’t have real connections to hook you up.
It is a scary world out there
'Engineering and Sales should both decide'. LOL. It is called Marketing. Jack Barker thinks like a 2000s-era Chinese OEM.
"I think this thing is dead", as his head is framed by the conjoined triangles of success.
The worker hostage situation is based off an event that actually happened lol look up Chip Starnes. Flew to Beijing to lay off a factory and they took him hostage/kept him there against his will. Police refused to interfere, stating that it was a matter of labour negotiations and not a kidnapping 😂😂😂
"Serendipity of the coincidence."
5:13 The way Barker taps the shoulder of the translator is so condescending and ignorant.
This is closer to reality than I care to acknowledge 😆
Now that's acute concept.
From some perspectives, it’s the right concept
This entire season made me want to yell at Richard "just take the money!" I guess that was every season, but this one was the best at executing the tease. Barker had the one good money-making product in the entire series.
Yeah but every single time he turned down more and more money led him to the final ultimate choice where he had to destroy his baby instead of becoming super rich off of it and destabilizing the world. They had to be the ones to make that choice. Anyone else might have gotten it wrong. - mordin
@@davidmassey5448 Yeah but at the end of the day, if they didn't do it, someone else would.
Offer me two million dollars for anything and I'm taking that deal and vanishing to a small home in the countryside to spend the rest of my days doing part-time contract work on my own terms and never fucking with anything ever again.
@@DevoutSkepticthat’s been the most common excuse for shitty behavior since the dawn of man. We’re all responsible for our own choices, nobody else’s
@@wesspect If you don't have that attitude, you'll go out of business. It's dog-eat-dog.
Its funny but he isn't wrong. I work in tech, and I have seen so many times the tech team obsessed with building something that doesn't take into account customer needs. The have shocked pickachu face when whatever was implemented its lambasted or worse, ignored completely
MBA is very useful and smart person degree!
Triangles don't work out for those who are obtuse to their current situation. He just does not get it.
Peter drucker would be proud
I've met too many of these people. A very small fraction of them know what they're talking about. The rest are just placeholders to be shuffled around by the people who are really in charge.
Why this not my life already
"The serendipity of the coincidence" I so wish this Jack had it out with Jack Donaghy just once, the fireworks
I like how he occasionally interjects math to make his arbitrary triangle akin to Newton or Leibniz.
Remember Sammy Jankis
Oh wow. It is him
reminds me so much of those "7 habits" triangles from Covey. I wonder if they took inspiration lol
In my current company I have a director like this and I have to work under him.😢
You should show him the triangles of success
thats ned ryerson from groundhog day
Jack Barker reminds me of why I switched from Business to Math many years ago.
I loved this show !
So sad I didn't started a start up in 2017 with free money hahah
took me all this time to realize he was a Ballmer parody
I crave for the Conjoined Triangles of Success
I have one hanging on the wall in my home office. Looking at it every day.
You can't make that shit up!!!
“But you…literally did make it up”🤣
People treat this as a bit but it's indistinguishable from what's being taught at business schools.
"I am here to PROVE to you that HE is WRONG!"
Jung Shao: :(
Jack ended up being right
And now he's selling Unifi gear.
BCG Product Portfolio Matrix
FYI Steve Balmer is worth more than 100 billion dollars thanks to conjoined triangle of success.
What the triangles have to do with actual floor work?
Because their conjoined, they form a square. And the people who build the Conjoined Triangles of Success will be working in cubicles. It almost writes itself.
You know A V I A T O ?
This dude is a master salesman and gaslighter lol
So, Who's the Boss?
Ned? Ned Ryerson?
Good for the Chinese workers
they are worth 3 trillion now. Should have bought google stock
This show is so insanely well-layered and executed. @ 0:54 You can totally imagine a CEO of some generic company giving this rehearsed talk. 😆
Ned Ryerson!!
why he speaks in Tim Cook's voice?
In a sense, all of the characters are stereotypes observed from people who used to work in tech, not surprising that they'd resemble some famous ones, though I get more of aa Bill Gates vibe from this guy
It's more Steve Balmer
This is too close to reality 😂
2:14
lol
To be fair, when he said 400 billion, it was either going to be apple or google
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