Getting jacked on the vegan diet with Dr. Mike Israetel - Trifecta Tips
Вставка
- Опубліковано 17 сер 2016
- There's lots of myths surrounding the vegan diet and weightlifting. Dr. Mike Israetel of the RP Diet sits down with Greg Connolly to clear the water and get to the bottom of how to properly build and maintain muscle on the vegan diet. Find out how effective soy proteins are, the difference between animal and plant proteins, as well as the reason why vegans are generally skinnier than meat eaters.
Subscribe to Trifecta''s Channel Here / @trifectanutrition
#TIMESTAMPS:
0:41 - Can I get the same protein as chicken and eggs with shakes?
3:11 - Animal proteins vs plant proteins
3:42 - How effective are soy proteins?
#BIO - Dr. Mike Israetel
Mike is a professor of Exercise Science at Temple University in Philadelphia, PA where he teaches Nutrition for Public Health, Exercise Nutrition and Behavior, Applied Sports Nutrition, Personal Training, and Advanced Strength and Conditioning. Mike’s PhD is in Sport Physiology, and he has been a consultant on sports nutrition to the U.S. Olympic Training Site in Johnson City, TN as well as an invited speaker at numerous conferences and facilities around the world, including the U.S. Olympic Training Center at Lake Placid, NY. Mike has coached numerous powerlifters, weightlifters, bodybuilders, and other individuals in both diet and weight training. He's the co-founder of Renaissance Periodization, a nutrition and training company specializing in advanced nutrition and training solutions from templates to world-class personal coaching. Mike has co-authored multiple books on nutrition and training and is usually working on another book among other endeavors. Originally from Moscow, Russia, Mike is himself a competitive bodybuilder and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu grappler.
#BIO - Greg Connolly
Greg Connolly builds businesses. While still in college he started his first of 5 businesses, a web design firm during the early days of the internet. Since, he has founded or co-founded 4 other companies raising almost $20M in capital in 3 raises and leading to 2 successful acquisitions. Now he runs Trifecta, the country's largest 'all organic' meal delivery company. He is also the founder / CEO of Amara. Along the way he became a mentor to dozens of other entrepreneurs, writes for Entrepreneur Magazine and Foundr Magazine among others.
#LINKS - Dr. Mike Israetel:
Renaissance Periodization: renaissanceperiodization.com/...
Juggernaut Strength: www.jtsstrength.com/articles/a...
Powerlifting University: www.powerliftinguniversity.com...
Open Sky Fitness Podcast: openskyfitness.com/mike-israet...
#LINKS - Greg Connolly:
Trifecta Nutrition: www.trifectanutrition.com
Amara Beverage: www.drinkamara.com
Clarify.fm: clarity.fm/gregconnolly
Entrepreneur: www.entrepreneur.com/author/g...
Foundr: foundrmag.com/crowdfunding-pa...
#TRIFECTA CONCEPT
The #TrifectaMindset is Greg's way of tying together all 3 major areas of a person's life -- their physical, mental and social lives. By taking your questions about mindset, nutrition, entrepreneurship, startups, and giving you his answers based on all of his experience building multi-million dollar businesses over almost 20 years.
Find Mike Here:
Twitter: rpdrmike?h...
Facebook: michael.isra...
Find Greg here:
Instagram: / gregconnolly_
Facebook: / connollylabs
Snapchat: greg_trifecta
Twitter: / gregconnolly_
LinkedIn: / gregconnolly
Medium: / gregconnolly
_______________________________________________________________________________________________
Shot by: Jasson Pierre & Scott Brio
Edited: Jasson Pierre
Sound: Scott Brio
*******
Check out Trifecta Meal Plans click here: www.trifectanutrition.com/mea...
Our App: www.trifectanutrition.com/app (for iPhone or Android)
Like and Follow Trifecta on Social Media
UA-cam: / trifectanutrition
Instagram: / trifecta
Facebook: www. trifectameals/
G+: google.com/+TrifectaNutrition
Twitter: / trifectasystem
Pinterest: / trifectasystem
LinkedIn: / trifecta-nutrition
*******
I really love how Mike can talk about veganism in a very neutral and objective way without any judgement. Way to go doc.👍👍👍
True ...
oh poor baby, does the truth hurt you? lol
@@elguitarTomnot funny bro
Absolutely love that Dr Mike is so open and positive about the vegan diet. It’s nice to see a unbiased nutritionist spread his knowledge openly
Mike is not a nutritionist lmao
Thanks doctor Mike for speaking the truth about basic nutrition and plant based diet. Been working for me for years…
why do i love listening to Dr. Mike? keep sharing that knowledge!
Wow it's really a good news for us vegan strength athlete thanks and longlive sir Mike
How can people think that vegans can't build muscle or be athletic when there are muscular vegan athletes all over the place? It's as if everyone takes what Joe Rogan says as gospel.
Because they generally don't. Most vegans don't do it the right way to tune for athletic performance.
Probably because the vast majority of Vegans lose weight and muscle mass. There is a lot of literature that supports this.
@@zaccy I'm not a vegan anymore. It sucked lol
@@GreyRock100 Hahah I've tried it as well for a few months and couldn't agree more. Lost strength, lost weight, felt bloated. Not to say that it cant be done but it definitely didn't feel optimal.
@@GreyRock100 why did you quit and what was your experience like?
Just get different types of beans and count how much protein is in each serving and have that many servings of beans per day. But it has to be different beans. Soy, kidney, black, please, chickpease. And seitan as well. And tofu. And miso. And quinoa. After you've tracked it for one meal, just eat the same thing every day but prepare it differently. Vegan foods can taste like literally anything you cook it with.
Lentils too!
Very good I love it
As a vegan, I love a good objective discussion on nutrition, but vegans and meat eaters can take it to the extreme. It’s hard to find honest information these days.
Agreed
Take the meat blood and pour it on your self hahahaah I died laughing at that
Wait the American power lifter who won was vegan
You talking about Kendrick Ferris?
@@sonja4164 yeh that’s him!!!!
@@jakestevanja1304 ok. Yeah he went to the Olympics and killed it. It's not that vegans can't do these things & possibly outperform their competitors. It's that there aren't many vegans to begin with compared to the meat eating population, which means there won't be many vegan competitors in these sports. So by the numbers, we won't see many vegans excelling in these sports. These sports are already very niche in the first place.
It's obviously possible to be jacked and/or athletic as a vegan (even if it's suboptimal), the problem however is some overly zealous vegans are simply in denial. Some examples below:
1. Some proteinaphobic vegans are proud to eat less than 30g protein a day claiming you don't need any (probably due to the the Mcdougall study on dietary survival). They fail to realise protein requirements to be optimal and athletic are going to be MUCH higher than protein required for mere survival.
2. Many vegans simply don't track protein macro due to the assuming they are consuming more protein than meat eaters (usually due being told 100grams XYZ vegetable contains more protein than 100grams of meat). The problem with this logic is weight isn't the same as [calories:protein ratio] or protein per serving size (have you ever tried eating a kilo of spinach?). Typically these types end up consuming too little protein and too many carbs.
3. Heaven forbid you tell a vegan to supplement. They often think their diet is the perfect holy grail and will refuse to even consider supplementation.
....the vegans that are jacked/athletic are the (few) sensible ones that take into account the obvious points mentioned.
Just like Dr.Mike said: as a vegan athlete you have to be diligent with your diet, not because you are necessarily vegan but because that is what all athletes do
If you enjoyed this talk
Especially, if you are thinking of moving to a vegan diet and is an athlete. You would (dare I say, MUST)
Take the time to view the Documentary: The Game Changers.
one of the few in 8 billion humans who is not agenda based(carni crazy or vegan crazy bandwagon...badmouthing other foods...)
Gladiators were vegan. They ate a diet of barley, beans and vegetable stews. The Roman army ate wheat, barley, and oats. Meat was for the royalty or only for special occasions. Their daily food was starches.
Dude this is awesome
@@ESI3GE Only the truth :) ua-cam.com/video/FOWSc8VvOl4/v-deo.html
Vegan fairytales and brainwashing
That's a fascinating piece of history for sure, but compared to a modern strength athlete I don't think Roman legionaries were particularly jacked.
@@Huffman_Tree That is just because that was not neccessarily the goal. They had to move fast and have a lot of strength. Even nowadays strength & hypertrophy training looks very different.
Thoughts on soy for men though
wouldn't rely on it as my main protein source. probably keep it under 30 - 40 g / day or so
Hey! No problem for men, but avoid soy isolated like in shakes. That can increase the probability of cancer. But there are wonderful alternatives. Just search for vegan proteins!
Much of soy in this nation is gmo. Men avoid all soy with the exception of naturally fermented soybean.
Look up some research on the topic. I believe Aragon published some. ~50g of soy protein a day was shown to not increase estrogen. A few case studies show intakes very high above that do increase estrogen in men. No telling where the "breaking point" is. So basically, 50g a day has been proven to be safe. Any higher... they're your balls on the chopping block. Your risk
That's probably a reference the estrogen myth. Soy has some phytoestrogens, not much and it does not effect our hormones. Oddly this concern is not often expressed about milk and whey which as lactation products are absolutely PACKED with real animal estrogens. So there's that.
Is Mike a vegan?
Definitely not, but he's a great resource for it's effect on the body and performance
No
Patrik Baboumian. End of story.
Damon Maetche buttloads of roids
Baboumian is an example of what Mike said. You can still make good progress on a vegan diet but you won't be world class. He's nowhere near the top level of strongmen or powerlifters. Also keep in mind he didn't build his strength base being vegan and he is on PEDs
OJSeph He hasn’t gotten stronger, and he built his strength and muscle on animal protein. Plus the only muscular vegans are the steroid users. But to be fair, most people won’t look jacked unless they take steroids, regardless of if they eat meat or not
@@miasclassroom u sound like ur coping
@@eatu4tea most omnivore strength athletes aren't at the top or world class...
Take gear. Seems to me you can get muscles eating more or less anything on that stuff. I will stick to being an omnivore and do it the natural way. I tried plant based and came to the conclusion that unless you have a fetish for shitting all day there's no point to being one.
An animals suffering & murder to get "jacked"... to each their own I guess. Rhino's, elephants & horses just to name a few consume no meat and they're "jacked". Not picking a fight I enjoyed the video
Vegan Crue sucks to be human then since unlike them we can't get jacked on grass
Vegan Crue You may not be aware, but humans are in fact, not, rhinos.
Vegan Crue and those HERBIVORES graze around 500lbs of grasses a day
I wonder if Elephants, Rhinos and Horses hit the gym 6x a Week and try to maximize hypertrophy.
Because if they're not, then they might not be the best comparison.
Fish can Breathe underwater, therefore we can too
Here’s the facts:
Animal foods are superior sources of protein. It’s not even close. No matter what metric you use (Net Protein Utilization (NPU), Protein Efficiency Ratio (PER), Protein Digestibility (PD). etc), animal protein is more complete and more bioavailable.
Animal products have additional nutrients unique to animals that plants lack - but we really need to thrive. DHA, EPA, B12, D3, K2, Heme Iron, Retinol (true vitamin A) to name a few.
Plant sources of protein often come with carbohydrates (beans, legumes). So you end up consuming a large amount of carbohydrate and fiber just to meet your basic needs. For most people this is too much fiber and carbohydrate. Conversely, nuts are so high in fat (calories) that you’d have to allocate your entire calorie budget to nuts to use them as a main protein source. Tofu is the only plant source of protein that kind of mimics the macro nutrient advantages of meat and eggs - mostly protein and fat, low carb.
Plant sources of protein also contain anti nutrients such as oxalates, phytates and lectins. These are poisons created by plants to protect themselves. They’re designed to irritate the stomachs and guts of animals and insects that eat them. Plants don’t want to be eaten. This is their defense. So plants need to be prepared properly to reduce or remove those anti nutrients - but you can’t get them all no matter how well you prepare. People with IBS, SIBO, candida, leaky gut, Crohns, and other autoimmune diseases really need to be careful with plant foods and carbohydrates. Unfortunately, this is an ever growing segment of our population, especially among vegans.
Animal products, such as meat are hypoallergenic. They contain no anti-nutrients or fiber to irritate the gut or block the absorption of minerals. They are easily and fully digestible.
This is why plant matter is not considered a serious source of protein. It can help prevent overt signs of protein deficiency, but it’s not an optimal choice.
Literally every culture in the world has always known this just from generations of trial and error. When you are recovering from injury or illness, when you are feeling ruin down, if you are pregnant - basically any condition that requires optimal nutrition - animal products (milk, meat, eggs, organs, etc) are always the most coveted and prized foods. And for good reason - they are superior across the board.
TLDR post physique
LMAO
Soy has a better protein digestibility than all meat tho...
Anti nutrients immediately waves a red flag that your basing your beliefs off some dude on the Internet selling you supliments instead of peer reviewed research
"facts" lists his bias 😂😂😂😂