Thanks for the video. I know it may be more work, but an after commentary video on this gameplay (without pausing, just Irt) would have been great. I didn't quite understand why the dwarf was killing the chicken until I saw the comments and I think what has made your channel valuable is your unique insights on the game. Explaining and re explaining the basics and advance tips on a live gameplay would truly mean the difference and I think most of us would appreciate that extra effort. Keep up the good vibes and thanks again
He does, but there is also people who request to see how you do it besides explaining, so this was a full gameplay from his POV but he will keep doing BO and explain us the reasons.
Was cool seeing you catch up from 5k deficit. Seems like he got overwhelmed as the latter half of the match was about him trying to defend but poorly. Especially considering the right corner of the map was illuminated for the last quarter of the match.
Wow, this was stressful to watch! It's really amazing how top tier level players like you both can sustain so much focus during almost an hour of non-stop combat, raids and siege all over the map. Amazing! 👏👏👏🎬🎬🎬
i usually like to put 2 - 3 valks/priests(egiptians) on passive mode and keep it behind lines healing units, what do you think about that?, for me it was usefull to keep alive my front line more time
Could you please provide a new Thor build guide after the recent patch? I watched your game and tried to follow your build order, but it’s tough to know exactly when to upgrade the Ox Cart and which Minor Gods to choose. I also don’t quite understand why you chose Tyr instead of Baldr, especially since Baldr has a unique RC upgrade. And why not Bragi instead of Skadi? What’s your opinion on Hirdman units? I noticed you used them quite a lot-was this just a specific case since you knew your opponent would push for cavalry? Also, what do you think about using them in general? I’d really appreciate a thorough guide on Thor!
You’re right on, should have definitely gone baldr here, as for bragi, I’m not entirely sure, I like the food upgrade and I like having frost but you might be right about that too, swine array would have came in handy. I need to work somethings out and then I’ll make a guide for you guys
Norse struggling so much due to the lack of anti ranged ranged options lol. With Greek prodromos and peltasts would’ve utterly crushed that, I love wiping chariot spammers with those.
I think Freyr with early/faster huscarls might shine a bit more in this matchup, tho if the map has poor wood I think huscarl is unsustainable late game
I appreciate the resilience shown here, but it's really just showing how weak Norse is in the match up. Firstly, without the repeated dwarven mine casts, the game was already over. Only Thor has that option, obviously. The only reason there was so much favour was because he decided to brawl in the ice for 0 reason, over 0 resources for 15 minutes straight, closer to your production so he could never quite break you, when he could have sat his chariot mass on a couple of catapults and sieged you down or use meteor on the military production buildings when hitting mythic to interrupt reinforcements instead of using it at minute 35 to defend 1 migdol.. The baffling refusal to finish walling off his market as well.. fucked up his caravans so many times (i lost count at 9) I enjoyed the game but so many mistakes from him, very unusual but as mentioned he's learning Isis.
You said it all, the best player playing with the best Norse god, managed to take advantage of a small chance to defeat Isis, imagine me who is a fool playing with my Tired Odin hahaha. The developers need to balance Norse vs Eggy 🙏🏻.
Chariot spam is one of my least favourite tactics in the game. It isn't fun to play against, and it results in games that are very samey and extremely long. That being said, I've found Norse ballista rip through mass chariot archer balls. Maybe something good to keep in mind for next time.
bro, if u don't do it for money as u said in your video, could you make it available your videos on twitch to watch later? I'm usually working in your lives so I only can see later but you requires subscription for that. It would be nice if u could make it available. Thanks for your content btw!
they are awful, their bonus against archers is minimal, not a speedy unit and not tanky either, raiding cav perform much better at any stage of the game, they also receive bonus damage from the unit they are supposed to counter.
@@arkhire5883 I’m not sure about retold huskarls, I’ll try to play around with them and raiders on sandbox and see which performs betters But before Retold, Hurskarls was so good against archers
Hi magic thx for your content you are the best . Quick question as a main Freyr and Thor I like to go on late game . I struggle to know when I should start to go for a trade and should we delete some villager to have more pop to attribute in army ? Because I find in late game north play on the number because Greek /Atlant/égyptien as better late game unit .
Norse only has infantry and cavalry human units. Their counter units (TA, Hirdman, Huskarls) are all infantry. Migdol units counter everything Norse has and were recently helped with cheaper upgrades across the board and an increase in damage for the chariot. All Norse units have worse pierce armour than their equivalent in other civs except the Huskarl. Greeks do better as Prodromos for a counter cavalry unit counter camels, chariots and elephants alike and are fast enough to reach them. Peltasts are also excellent vs chariots and have incredible range so it's possible to mix an archer/meatshield/siege army as Greek because Peltasts can either zone or murder chariots out of the right. The Norse counter units, Huskarls and Hirdman are infantry and slower than their target. As infantry, they both take bonus damage from chariots (yes, the counter archer melee unit takes bonus damage from archers). All they have to do is keep their distance from infantry, which is easy with a chariot/camel army due to their speed. The only unit Norse has that can keep up is raiding cavalry as Jarls are too slow and have no bonus vs archers. Both are countered by camels. If it ever looks like it's going badly the Egyptians can just run away from Norse. Imo Norse can't win this in an equal fight. Their army beats yours, just have to deal with it. Open another front, raid and hope for the best.
"Magic is a has been. He's washed up. He can't even break top 15 on the ladder in Retold. He played when there was way less competition. The Voobly guys are way better than Magic's prime. Players nowadays are just faster, better. Face it. Magic can't hang. He's too slow and his strats are ancient. Y'all need to let go of the past." So much for that.
Kronos finally walked the earth in this video
Thanks for the video. I know it may be more work, but an after commentary video on this gameplay (without pausing, just Irt) would have been great. I didn't quite understand why the dwarf was killing the chicken until I saw the comments and I think what has made your channel valuable is your unique insights on the game. Explaining and re explaining the basics and advance tips on a live gameplay would truly mean the difference and I think most of us would appreciate that extra effort. Keep up the good vibes and thanks again
Sure mate
He does, but there is also people who request to see how you do it besides explaining, so this was a full gameplay from his POV but he will keep doing BO and explain us the reasons.
Definetely, to be a exceptional aom player u gotta be an exceptional multitask person, damnn! Amazing game, btw
Economy: ❌
Oxconomy: ✅
@@jdhd2837 there were no more trees, no gold mine, almost nothing left lol
You know Magic is good when he had his vills garrison and pop out the other side instead of walking around the tc 😂
I constantly see players doing that, an ability I can only dream of mastering
The streets will never forget this game. Pure cinema 🚬
Heatfelt Congratulations for winning against Mista... You are the GOAT 🙌
Was cool seeing you catch up from 5k deficit. Seems like he got overwhelmed as the latter half of the match was about him trying to defend but poorly. Especially considering the right corner of the map was illuminated for the last quarter of the match.
Watched this game live. it was a banger!
Wow, this was stressful to watch! It's really amazing how top tier level players like you both can sustain so much focus during almost an hour of non-stop combat, raids and siege all over the map. Amazing! 👏👏👏🎬🎬🎬
Please give us an updated Thor build guide when you have a chance!
For sure!
@@IamMagicAOM looking forward to it 🙏🏻
An absolutely epic game. Wow. Thanks for sharing. Well played.
you are truly magic :)
FINALLY!
congrats: 1st place in Leaderboard
mini game, take a shot every time he gets a sub!
EDIT: my liver has exploded
Haha
i usually like to put 2 - 3 valks/priests(egiptians) on passive mode and keep it behind lines healing units, what do you think about that?, for me it was usefull to keep alive my front line more time
That’s a nice idea yeah
Nice to see a match with titan and rams... n_n
Could you please provide a new Thor build guide after the recent patch? I watched your game and tried to follow your build order, but it’s tough to know exactly when to upgrade the Ox Cart and which Minor Gods to choose. I also don’t quite understand why you chose Tyr instead of Baldr, especially since Baldr has a unique RC upgrade. And why not Bragi instead of Skadi? What’s your opinion on Hirdman units? I noticed you used them quite a lot-was this just a specific case since you knew your opponent would push for cavalry? Also, what do you think about using them in general? I’d really appreciate a thorough guide on Thor!
You’re right on, should have definitely gone baldr here, as for bragi, I’m not entirely sure, I like the food upgrade and I like having frost but you might be right about that too, swine array would have came in handy.
I need to work somethings out and then I’ll make a guide for you guys
Norse struggling so much due to the lack of anti ranged ranged options lol. With Greek prodromos and peltasts would’ve utterly crushed that, I love wiping chariot spammers with those.
King Magic the magician 🪄
Can you do us a video about Thor ages and who to chose please it would be good to know when to go freeze age 3 and for and when to go flaming weapons
Grab your popcorn!🍿
I think Freyr with early/faster huscarls might shine a bit more in this matchup, tho if the map has poor wood I think huscarl is unsustainable late game
I appreciate the resilience shown here, but it's really just showing how weak Norse is in the match up.
Firstly, without the repeated dwarven mine casts, the game was already over. Only Thor has that option, obviously. The only reason there was so much favour was because he decided to brawl in the ice for 0 reason, over 0 resources for 15 minutes straight, closer to your production so he could never quite break you, when he could have sat his chariot mass on a couple of catapults and sieged you down or use meteor on the military production buildings when hitting mythic to interrupt reinforcements instead of using it at minute 35 to defend 1 migdol..
The baffling refusal to finish walling off his market as well.. fucked up his caravans so many times (i lost count at 9)
I enjoyed the game but so many mistakes from him, very unusual but as mentioned he's learning Isis.
It’s tough when the game is very fast paced to keep up sometimes
Great game! Why not Frost Giant + Balista?
Too slow
@@IamMagicAOM Sometimes the tortoise wins the race. ;-)
So you need to be literally Magic and you need to play the most OP Norse god in order to have a slight chance to beat Isis as Norse kek
Well this is the nerfed version of Thor, probably not the best Norse god anymore
Hahahahaha 100%
You said it all, the best player playing with the best Norse god, managed to take advantage of a small chance to defeat Isis, imagine me who is a fool playing with my Tired Odin hahaha. The developers need to balance Norse vs Eggy 🙏🏻.
@@IamMagicAOM who would you consider to be the best Norse god atm?
Norse need buff
Hey Magic
Why did you go 2tc FT instead of army up and block his gold since you've seem it was a forward gold mine
Hard to gold block him, I think his army was more powerful than mine, I kept losing most of the skirmishes
Why is the dwarf killing all those chickens?
To get 5 favor for the armory upgrade.
@@DanyVanillust ahhhh thank you
Why not make mass ballista?
I needed good mobility to switch fronts whenever I wanted but a few ballista might have been good
Can norse arty be good vs chariot blobs?
I think slepnir raiding cav would have worked wonders here
Chrooooooonos finally you are free
I wonder what is your blood pressure after such a game, even watching the replay is stresful 😂
Chariot spam is one of my least favourite tactics in the game. It isn't fun to play against, and it results in games that are very samey and extremely long.
That being said, I've found Norse ballista rip through mass chariot archer balls. Maybe something good to keep in mind for next time.
Thanks!
bro, if u don't do it for money as u said in your video, could you make it available your videos on twitch to watch later? I'm usually working in your lives so I only can see later but you requires subscription for that. It would be nice if u could make it available. Thanks for your content btw!
Yeah I’ll do that after the tournament is over (end of this week)
Just, why no Huskarl? I bet they would be way better against Biga and Camels than Raiders
they are awful, their bonus against archers is minimal, not a speedy unit and not tanky either, raiding cav perform much better at any stage of the game, they also receive bonus damage from the unit they are supposed to counter.
I mixed them in but they were not performing that well
@@arkhire5883 I’m not sure about retold huskarls, I’ll try to play around with them and raiders on sandbox and see which performs betters
But before Retold, Hurskarls was so good against archers
Hi magic thx for your content you are the best .
Quick question as a main Freyr and Thor I like to go on late game . I struggle to know when I should start to go for a trade and should we delete some villager to have more pop to attribute in army ? Because I find in late game north play on the number because Greek /Atlant/égyptien as better late game unit .
Why norse struggle so much with egyptians while greeks who have worse eco perform better?
Norse only has infantry and cavalry human units. Their counter units (TA, Hirdman, Huskarls) are all infantry. Migdol units counter everything Norse has and were recently helped with cheaper upgrades across the board and an increase in damage for the chariot. All Norse units have worse pierce armour than their equivalent in other civs except the Huskarl.
Greeks do better as Prodromos for a counter cavalry unit counter camels, chariots and elephants alike and are fast enough to reach them. Peltasts are also excellent vs chariots and have incredible range so it's possible to mix an archer/meatshield/siege army as Greek because Peltasts can either zone or murder chariots out of the right. The Norse counter units, Huskarls and Hirdman are infantry and slower than their target. As infantry, they both take bonus damage from chariots (yes, the counter archer melee unit takes bonus damage from archers). All they have to do is keep their distance from infantry, which is easy with a chariot/camel army due to their speed. The only unit Norse has that can keep up is raiding cavalry as Jarls are too slow and have no bonus vs archers. Both are countered by camels. If it ever looks like it's going badly the Egyptians can just run away from Norse.
Imo Norse can't win this in an equal fight. Their army beats yours, just have to deal with it. Open another front, raid and hope for the best.
Don't need to watch it because he tells the whole result in less than 1 minute
There’s more to a game than just a result!
mythic age and not even a third of the video in. Not even brain surgeons go thru that strees man drink water
"Magic is a has been. He's washed up. He can't even break top 15 on the ladder in Retold. He played when there was way less competition. The Voobly guys are way better than Magic's prime. Players nowadays are just faster, better. Face it. Magic can't hang. He's too slow and his strats are ancient. Y'all need to let go of the past."
So much for that.
I love when they say that! Use it as fuel