she was very pretty and had that contagious smile-- her eyes always lit up when she talked and laughed. Also very well spoken and versed as they all were John- Dorothy -- and of course Bennet....such class in verbal speaking and explaining matters to the public....
I always love seeing the footage with family and spouses. ❤️ Peter is a wonderful, thoughtful man, very much in the vein of both of his parents. He has had some involvement with the arts in recent years…there is a venue in the Bay Area called the Arlene Francis Center, and he has had direct input and appearances there over the years. His parents would be extremely proud of the things he has done to help people who are socially disadvantaged. He’s a good human being, and I am privileged to count him among my friends.
God bless Arlene. She was the last one left. I wonder how she felt doing this show with her “family” gone. It must’ve been a mix of comfort, nostalgia, and loneliness being surrounded by those who knew nothing about the magic of the show.
I guess she was trying to keep the legacy of the original going. Bless her. I would have done the same in her position. WML is part of everyone's heritage.
@@hcombs0104 True, but Dorothy had died in November of 1965, and that CBS run of the show ran for almost two more years after that. Peter finished Harvard Law in 1972, so I figure that about the time of this episode, Dorothy had been gone for about ten years or so. 😞
For those asking why Arlene was the only original WML panelist used on this occasion(1973); of the original panelists, she was the only one alive at that time. Bennett Cerf had passed away two years earlier(8/27/1971) and of course Dorothy Kilgallen had died nearly a decade earlier(11/8/1965). John C. Daly, the original WML Host, was still alive but was effectively retired at this point. They could’ve used Steve Allen as a guest panelist in this episode and that would’ve been the closest possible facsimile to the original show.
In her declining years, Peter moved his mother to a nursing home in the Bay Area where he could be closer to her. She died there, but was buried next to her husband in Pennsylvania (his home).
@@patshhi4620 Yeah, I think she ended up with Alzheimer's and needed a supervised living situation. Peter by then had well established himself in San Francisco and Berkeley, so I guess he felt the best option was to move her to the west coast, giving her both the care she needed as well as making sure the two could be close to each other. He's a class act all the way.
Wow. He was my teaching fellow at Harvard. I recall him giving very sharp comments on one of my papers. I had not idea he was related to Arlene Francis until this morning. Sorry to learn he passed away a few weeks ago at 75 years old
Inherited that “ class” from his mother. ( Perhaps both parents.) So many others would have boasted about being the son of a celeb. He most likely wanted to stand on his own. ( Wise.)
It may have been a good one you do not know. Do not judge that situation. Arlene may not have had the funds left for in home care. They were not an independently wealthy couple to my knowledge. Arlene was never a major screen star or Broadway star. She played in off broadway plays during her career.
Margaret It’s not about the money and not about if it was a good home. It’s about the fact that putting someone in a home where other people take care of that person is the opposite of taking care yourself. Many people put their elderly away in homes. In some cases it might be necessary but praise deserve only the children who really make the effort to be there for their old parents themselves.
The original host came on in 1975 for a special discussing 25 years of the show, effectively ending the show. He died in 1991, and all the original long time panelists are gone. Bennett Cerf died two years before this, Arlene died in 2001at 93, and Dorothy died in1965. Some guests are still alive, but it is now 47 years since the original show ended.
cowan daniel original host, John Daly. the 25th year anniversary of the show was just posted here few weeks ago :) it was a great documentary of the show with Arlene Francis, John DAly and one of the producers of the show ( Mark Goodson ).
@@wallyt2017 Riiiight. UA-cam 'documentaries'. I could link one that says the moon is actually made out of cheese. Would you believe it because you saw it on UA-cam?
@@4seeableTV Just because it's on UA-cam doesn't prove the documentary is true, nor does it negate any truth in the documentary. The case of Dorothy Kilgallen's death has never been fully investigated, let alone solved, but there is more than a little suspicion that the mafia killed her for knowing too much about JFK's assassination. But I take your point--there is no proof from any source to conclusively back up any suspicions.
What I think is great is that from the very first version it was frequently mentioned that Peter and Jonathon Cerf were in school together from a young age all the way through Harvard. They matainened their friendship to the end. Jonathon gave a eulogy at Peter's funeral
In her final years Arlene had very bad Alzeimer's Disease, needed specialized care. Peter moved her to one of the finest care facilities in the San Francisco area, so he could visit her often. But she didn't recognize her son or anyone else.
@@outdoorfamilylifenew9396 You could have just said that he resembles his father.. but then you had to go spoil it and show your ignorance and bigotry with an ad hominem attack.
He looked (and still looks) like a blend of both of his parents...Arlene's coloring, hair (hers was naturally dark and VERY wavy like his), mouth, and jawline, and he's all Martin in the eyes and nose. Well-spoken like his Mom, well-studied like his Dad. He has done a lot of great work to raise awareness about social justice, and continues to do so not only from a legal perspective (he holds a B.A., J.D., and Ph.D.), but also as a noted writer/editor and academic. His parents would be immensely proud of his accomplishments.
+OutdoorLifeFamily As a gay man take a bit of issue with that. I love it when Peter laughs. I think his laugh and smile.was adorable. He just didn't do it much. And I like his hair thia length. :)
There was a clip from 1964 I think where it had his occupation as a guide at that year's World's Fair in New York. It really caught Arlene off guard after Mr. Daly revealed who it was at the end.
When I saw Arlene Francis here I was feeling a bit creepy about 'lookin' at an older woman but then I realized that I'm only six years younger than she was at the time!..how the years fly!
One more thing I want to add is that I don't know with all of the social media if it were possible to revive this game. They may get some hints in advance.
Tragic Story: Arlene Francis always wore her signature diamond heart necklace. She never took it off. After she died, her son Peter had it, and while getting out of a taxi in New York, he was mugged by a robber who stole it from him. It was the most seen heart-shaped necklace in the history of television. One can only hope that beautiful necklace carried a curse for the rat who stole it. Regardless, that necklace, and the lovely woman who wore it all those years on TV, will never be stolen from our hearts.
Hailey, I also read that she was the one who was robbed. I remember thinking thank goodness Martin was not alive when it happened. I think it would have hurt him more than Arlene.
@@patshhi4620 Peter Gabel was on WML three times (twice on the old/classic WML) as a mystery guest. His mother didn't guess it was him on any of the shows.
Wow. Still definitely in a cute phase here. Peter Gabel looked and sounded a lot -- A LOT -- like his father. Bright, too. He become distinguished in California academia rather early. Heaven only knows the Berkeley Police needed watching in those days.
Peter Gabel was all of 17 when he first appeared on Sunday Night WML as a New York World's Fair Guide, and he bamboozled not only his mother but the panel. That is a favorite on UA-cam. When he was 19, he appeared again on Sunday Night WML as a Harvard Lampoon Editor and bamboozled his mother, his father, and one other panel member. [some jerk told Bennett Cerf in advance] This appearance is pretty funny as well.
I remember seeing an episode that had Peter and Bennett’s son as the mystery guests. Is that the episode where someone sent Bennett the note telling him his son would be on that night?
When Arlene asked "At Berkeley?". It's almost as if he wasn't telling the truth and she called him on it? BTW, the air date is 12-27-1973. He was 26 years old here.
Arlene's husband Martin Gabel was the mystery guest on the syndicated series at one point. Soupy Sales guessed his identity. Arlene said she knew it was Martin Gabel the moment he opened his mouth, and she played along with it (asking him if he was married, etc.). Do you have that one? I can't fine the air date.
***** It might no longer exist. The moderator (I think it was Blyden) invited Martin Gabel to be on a future panel. No, Gabel said. He said the new syndicated WML was more of a younger generation's show than the CBS original).
+Chaya Shalom The episode I was thinking of was from 1973 or 1974 or so. I'll research the 1967 date, but Martin Gabel's appearance as a sole mystery guest (instead of as part of a group) I think was restricted to the syndicated show (1968-75),
Peter was the mystery guest multiple times over the years both by himself and with the children of the other panelists when he was a child in the forties.
Watch at the end....Arlene greets him with a hug....he doesn't raise his arms to embrace her....hmmmm.....I don't know for a fact....but I think he was brought up more by a nanny than her since she really was very famous in his formative years.
Wow Peter was ahead of his time looking into the Police's methods and practices esp. with what is going on in the US today. One cant generalize a cop tho. Just like everything, some good ones, some not so. Chicago Head of Police let go today - just heard.
+RachelDavisMatthews my thoughts exactly, i literally just came from a police shooting video of a man in san francisco, 5 cops opened fire on him in a hail of gun fire, 15 shots fired. there have been almost 1300 people killed by police this year, and the year isn't over, it's absolutely insane how many people they are killing.
Keith, they are always rushing this show, and cutting the guests’ time, which I think is really rude. They have these little skits now that take up all the time. I wish they had left it like the original show.
@@willg4802 You must forgive me, Will. I haven't seen this in over a year. I didn't even remember that I made this comment until now and that's not the only one that I don't remember. I have made a lot of them, but that's beside the point. I just saw and heard the portion that I highlighted a year ago and I have come to the embarrassing conclusion that...you're right. I apologize on behalf of the Keith Evers of 2018 - 2019. He was an idiot.
***** Right after I wrote this, I found two collector's websites that list taping dates (being syndicated, an air date would be difficult to ascertain). Looks like this episode was taped on Dec. 27, 1973.
it would be, for the longest time they actually had a stage show hosted by J. Keith van Stratten. They had dependents of the host and panelists as mystery guests and panelists themselves. I'd host this show for free.
I think Peter Gabel made his appearance as a guest for the second time in "What's My Line." He was a guest for the first time back in 1964, when he was still a teenager.
Bluejeans0701 I've seen that clip. They just referred to him as Mr. X with the panel blindfolded (of course). Back then, his line was a guide at the New York World's Fair.
watch: 04:22-04:28 notice that she embraces him but he does not want to raise his arms to embrace her...in another interview he stated that he grew up in an "envelope" and didn't have much opportunity to just "be" with his parents...I'm sure they had a good relationship...but being the son of two very talented and successful show business people must have left him many a times where they really couldn't connect as much as he would have wanted.
I noticed as well that Peter didn't embrace his mother. He moved out of his home, starting when he went to boarding high school in another state (Deerfield Academy?). That is not that much time living together as a family. Manhattan has had many quality high schools for the well to do. I don't know why he couldn't have stayed living at home for high school.
Was Henry Morgan physically challenged when this show was made? I ask because he didn't get up and 'mingle' at the end like everyone else did. Could it be he was just being Henry Morgan, and was miffed because Soupy jumped his ID of Peter Gabel? It wouldn't be the first time that Henry has tsouris with other panel members.
+Michael Mantle I thinks its because Peter Gabel isnt someone famous and ole Henry fails to find the humor in the whole situation. He was a cantankerous (sp?) old guy from what I remember watching him in the 60s, 70s. lol
Physical challenges could be worked around…happened with Bill Cullen all the time, who ALWAYS mingled at the end of Syn IGAS. Morgan, from all accounts, was kind of a jerk.
I have a passing acquaintance with Peter Gabel through my job and to be honest at least in my opinion he is a very strange person. He's always very frumpy looking as if he needs a shampoo bath and access to a washing machine. I spoke to him on the street one day and later someone asked why I was talking to a homeless man.
Peter Gabel and one of Bennett Cerf's sons, Jonathan Cerf were friends. They attended Deerfield Boarding School at the same time. Upon graduation, both boys studied at Harvard. I think perhaps the frumpy look came later in Peter's life and was perhaps a Berkley influence. Arlene and Martin were close friends to Bennett Cerf and his wife. I was not familiar with Deerfield boarding school, so brought it up on the net. It has a beautiful campus.
![What's My Line? - Walt Disney; Jerry Lewis [panel] (Nov 11, 1956)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7FRpJZWhxso/mqdefault.jpg)
Rest In Peace, Peter Gabel. You are now together again eternally with your wonderful parents, Arlene and Martin.
How horrible. This is how I found out. At least all 3 are together in peace.
Awwww, sad. Did he have any children? Did at least Arlene live long enough to see her grandchildren?
@@LadyTinaMarie1 He had a son.
@@maria.maverickHorrible? We all die and 75 is a decent age to live.
He couldn’t have had two better parents!
Arlene was so attractive-- not just in looks-- she had a wonderful upbeat infectious personality that people were really drawn to
So true.
I agree. In fact, I find myself having a fixation with her. I find her perfect in every way, and hope that her husband truly appreciated it.
she was very pretty and had that contagious smile-- her eyes always lit up when she talked and laughed. Also very well spoken and versed as they all were John- Dorothy -- and of course Bennet....such class in verbal speaking and explaining matters to the public....
You got that right beautiful
@@reealitychick wonder what year this was made in at least it's in colour lol
I always love seeing the footage with family and spouses. ❤️ Peter is a wonderful, thoughtful man, very much in the vein of both of his parents. He has had some involvement with the arts in recent years…there is a venue in the Bay Area called the Arlene Francis Center, and he has had direct input and appearances there over the years. His parents would be extremely proud of the things he has done to help people who are socially disadvantaged. He’s a good human being, and I am privileged to count him among my friends.
God bless Arlene. She was the last one left. I wonder how she felt doing this show with her “family” gone.
It must’ve been a mix of comfort, nostalgia, and loneliness being surrounded by those who knew nothing about the magic of the show.
Well, they did watch it like everyone else did.
@@DavidMcFarner not the same. Not by a long mile.
I guess she was trying to keep the legacy of the original going. Bless her. I would have done the same in her position. WML is part of everyone's heritage.
@@stephenguppy8886, i suspect It was largely a job for her.
Dosent have the magic of the older version with John Daly
And it really needed Dorothy Kilgallen, too.
@@hcombs0104 True, but Dorothy had died in November of 1965, and that CBS run of the show ran for almost two more years after that. Peter finished Harvard Law in 1972, so I figure that about the time of this episode, Dorothy had been gone for about ten years or so. 😞
I agree. These later shows are good but not awesome.
vikings844 agree. Not even close.
Rita Moreno on WML.Cool.She must've taken a break from The Electric Company.
For those asking why Arlene was the only original WML panelist used on this occasion(1973); of the original panelists, she was the only one alive at that time. Bennett Cerf had passed away two years earlier(8/27/1971) and of course Dorothy Kilgallen had died nearly a decade earlier(11/8/1965). John C. Daly, the original WML Host, was still alive but was effectively retired at this point. They could’ve used Steve Allen as a guest panelist in this episode and that would’ve been the closest possible facsimile to the original show.
Arlene about 66yrs old here and looking good and very fit... no wonder she lived to 2001
In her declining years, Peter moved his mother to a nursing home in the Bay Area where he could be closer to her. She died there, but was buried next to her husband in Pennsylvania (his home).
Ken, I read somewhere that Peter moved her closer to him. He was a good son.
@@patshhi4620 Yeah, I think she ended up with Alzheimer's and needed a supervised living situation. Peter by then had well established himself in San Francisco and Berkeley, so I guess he felt the best option was to move her to the west coast, giving her both the care she needed as well as making sure the two could be close to each other. He's a class act all the way.
Peter Gabel had such a cool Mom.
Wow. He was my teaching fellow at Harvard. I recall him giving very sharp comments on one of my papers. I had not idea he was related to Arlene Francis until this morning. Sorry to learn he passed away a few weeks ago at 75 years old
How sharp were his comments ?
Inherited that “ class” from his mother. ( Perhaps both parents.)
So many others would have boasted about being the son of a celeb.
He most likely wanted to stand on his own. ( Wise.)
Good show! It's amazing how much Peter Gabel looks like his father.
Peter Gabel took care of his mother during her final days.
He sure should, but he's still a liberal!
I'm sorry you hate America.
phtevlin
No, having your mother living in a home for the elderly is not taking care if her!
It may have been a good one you do not know. Do not judge that situation. Arlene may not have had the funds left for in home care. They were not an independently wealthy couple to my knowledge. Arlene was never a major screen star or Broadway star. She played in off broadway plays during her career.
Margaret
It’s not about the money and not about if it was a good home.
It’s about the fact that putting someone in a home where other people take care of that person is the opposite of taking care yourself.
Many people put their elderly away in homes. In some cases it might be necessary but praise deserve only the children who really make the effort to be there for their old parents themselves.
Very handsome guy and an incredibly intelligent and accomplished person. His parents would have rightly been very proud of their only child.
Arlene never guessed Peter. She always looks @ him so adoringly! Sweet!
Peter just passed away at 75. How time flies so young here
The original host came on in 1975 for a special discussing 25 years of the show, effectively ending the show. He died in 1991, and all the original long time panelists are gone. Bennett Cerf died two years before this, Arlene died in 2001at 93, and Dorothy died in1965. Some guests are still alive, but it is now 47 years since the original show ended.
cowan daniel original host, John Daly. the 25th year anniversary of the show was just posted here few weeks ago :) it was a great documentary of the show with Arlene Francis, John DAly and one of the producers of the show ( Mark Goodson ).
Dorothy Killgallan was killed because she was investigating JFK's assassination. There are docs on UA-cam about it
@@wallyt2017 Riiiight. UA-cam 'documentaries'. I could link one that says the moon is actually made out of cheese. Would you believe it because you saw it on UA-cam?
Dorothy, the brilliant mind, was killed the same way as Marilyn Monroe...as per investigations.
@@4seeableTV Just because it's on UA-cam doesn't prove the documentary is true, nor does it negate any truth in the documentary. The case of Dorothy Kilgallen's death has never been fully investigated, let alone solved, but there is more than a little suspicion that the mafia killed her for knowing too much about JFK's assassination. But I take your point--there is no proof from any source to conclusively back up any suspicions.
Dorothy Kilgallen was surprised, when she recognized her father, was on that show, in the 1950s. John Daly surprised her, when she guessed.
What I think is great is that from the very first version it was frequently mentioned that Peter and Jonathon Cerf were in school together from a young age all the way through Harvard. They matainened their friendship to the end. Jonathon gave a eulogy at Peter's funeral
I was so sad he passed away too. I love Arlene. But without the original cast, the show is nothing.
In her final years Arlene had very bad Alzeimer's Disease, needed specialized care. Peter moved her to one of the finest care facilities in the San Francisco area, so he could visit her often. But she didn't recognize her son or anyone else.
Arlene is such a beautiful woman
They were all so nice and cheerful, never a harsh word
Looks like his father. Always enjoyed Arlene Francis and Martin Gabel.
Better looking than his father.
@@outdoorfamilylifenew9396 You could have just said that he resembles his father.. but then you had to go spoil it and show your ignorance and bigotry with an ad hominem attack.
I think Peter looks like a combo of his mother and father. I can see both of them in him.
. . . with his face shape like his mother’s.
He looked (and still looks) like a blend of both of his parents...Arlene's coloring, hair (hers was naturally dark and VERY wavy like his), mouth, and jawline, and he's all Martin in the eyes and nose. Well-spoken like his Mom, well-studied like his Dad. He has done a lot of great work to raise awareness about social justice, and continues to do so not only from a legal perspective (he holds a B.A., J.D., and Ph.D.), but also as a noted writer/editor and academic. His parents would be immensely proud of his accomplishments.
+OutdoorLifeFamily As a gay man take a bit of issue with that. I love it when Peter laughs. I think his laugh and smile.was adorable. He just didn't do it much. And I like his hair thia length. :)
+OutdoorLifeFamily he definitely is NOT ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...and therefore you need new eyeglasses.
OutdoorFamilyLife New no
I'm a gay man as well and find this man in his younger days so incredibly attractive.Especially when he laughs and smiles and his tone of voice.
Looks like Paul Reiser to me.
3rd time he was on the show and each time his mom didn’t guess him
Oh Arlene. She gets a third chance to guess her son and still can't nail it down in time. :)
There was a clip from 1964 I think where it had his occupation as a guide at that year's World's Fair in New York. It really caught Arlene off guard after Mr. Daly revealed who it was at the end.
Then he was on again with Bennett's son Jonathan Cerf in 1967. They both worked for the Harvard Lampoon!
he looks like a young Harold Ramis
I’ll bet he is surely very liberal, pro Cop here⚔️⚔️
@@bobbywall172 Are you?
Are you sure about that?
Do you believe liberals are anti-“cop”?
Stand down, hero.
When I saw Arlene Francis here I was feeling a bit creepy about 'lookin' at an older woman but then I realized that I'm only six years younger than she was at the time!..how the years fly!
Playing the part of Peter Gabel tonight will be Harold Ramis
YouDummy that's who i thought he looked like.
Heh. He does resemble him a bit here
Peter Gabel really fooled his mother and the rest of the panel. Soupy ultimately guessed Arlene Francis's son.
Soupy guessed everyone !!!
lol Henry Morgan taking a cat nap hysterical
One more thing I want to add is that I don't know with all of the social media if it were possible to revive this game. They may get some hints in advance.
On Larry Blyden's Tombstone, his epitaph should have said "We're late, goodbye." RIP Larry
She was so pretty
Even prettier in the Black and White version with Groucho Marx.
See what you think William.
That was a funny show!
Who was she?
Tragic Story: Arlene Francis always wore her signature diamond heart necklace. She never took it off. After she died, her son Peter had it, and while getting out of a taxi in New York, he was mugged by a robber who stole it from him. It was the most seen heart-shaped necklace in the history of television. One can only hope that beautiful necklace carried a curse for the rat who stole it. Regardless, that necklace, and the lovely woman who wore it all those years on TV, will never be stolen from our hearts.
jennifer86010 actually Arlene was wearing it as she got out of a taxicab and was mugged as she was getting out if it in 1988
Hailey, I also read that she was the one who was robbed. I remember thinking thank goodness Martin was not alive when it happened. I think it would have hurt him more than Arlene.
I haven't seen the show yet. She's STILL wearing that? the SAME one? WOOOW
I believe he's fooled her every single time.
all three times
@@BlackPixel1 he was on four
What are you talking about?
@@patshhi4620 Peter Gabel was on WML three times (twice on the old/classic WML) as a mystery guest. His mother didn't guess it was him on any of the shows.
I just love Arlene... I have since I was a little boy watching this show.
The spitting image of his dad!
Wow. Still definitely in a cute phase here. Peter Gabel looked and sounded a lot -- A LOT -- like his father. Bright, too. He become distinguished in California academia rather early. Heaven only knows the Berkeley Police needed watching in those days.
soulierinvestments Peter Gabel is just a typical Marxist Jew.
@@outdoorfamilylifenew9396 And you are just the typical stupid racist, the US are als full of them.
@@outdoorfamilylifenew9396 We are in the age of Right Wing Authoritarian atmosphere today with the Dump .
Peter Gabel was all of 17 when he first appeared on Sunday Night WML as a New York World's Fair Guide, and he bamboozled not only his mother but the panel. That is a favorite on UA-cam. When he was 19, he appeared again on Sunday Night WML as a Harvard Lampoon Editor and bamboozled his mother, his father, and one other panel member. [some jerk told Bennett Cerf in advance] This appearance is pretty funny as well.
Yeah I love both of those clips. He was so handsome in both appearances . This one he is starting to look like how he looks now.
+soulierinvestments "A sandwich board!?!"
Actress Pamela Tiffin was the fourth member of the panel on Peter's second appearance.
I remember seeing an episode that had Peter and Bennett’s son as the mystery guests. Is that the episode where someone sent Bennett the note telling him his son would be on that night?
Not ONCE in all those years did Arlene ever guess it was Peter and they did it at least three times I know of.
i love Arlene.
Larry gave it away!
Time constraint at the end of show.
ARLENE... AND BENNETT... DORTHY AND JOHN DALY.. WERE HEART OF THIS SHOW.... WHATS MY LINE...
4:12 - Looks like Henry Morgan's Valium kicked in or something. He looks in another world (moreso than usual).
When Arlene asked "At Berkeley?". It's almost as if he wasn't telling the truth and she called him on it?
BTW, the air date is 12-27-1973. He was 26 years old here.
That was Rita Moreno that asked that question...not his mother.
Arlene's husband Martin Gabel was the mystery guest on the syndicated series at one point. Soupy Sales guessed his identity. Arlene said she knew it was Martin Gabel the moment he opened his mouth, and she played along with it (asking him if he was married, etc.). Do you have that one? I can't fine the air date.
no I don't
*****
It might no longer exist. The moderator (I think it was Blyden) invited Martin Gabel to be on a future panel. No, Gabel said. He said the new syndicated WML was more of a younger generation's show than the CBS original).
I know Someone has it, I just can't get up with him.
+prchristman Try the What's my line channel on UA-cam. March 17, 1967.
+Chaya Shalom The episode I was thinking of was from 1973 or 1974 or so. I'll research the 1967 date, but Martin Gabel's appearance as a sole mystery guest (instead of as part of a group) I think was restricted to the syndicated show (1968-75),
Peter sure looks like his dad!!
Peter was the mystery guest multiple times over the years both by himself and with the children of the other panelists when he was a child in the forties.
Watch at the end....Arlene greets him with a hug....he doesn't raise his arms to embrace her....hmmmm.....I don't know for a fact....but I think he was brought up more by a nanny than her since she really was very famous in his formative years.
Peter Gabel fooled his own mother.
Wow Peter was ahead of his time looking into the Police's methods and practices esp. with what is going on in the US today. One cant generalize a cop tho. Just like everything, some good ones, some not so. Chicago Head of Police let go today - just heard.
+RachelDavisMatthews my thoughts exactly, i literally just came from a police shooting video of a man in san francisco, 5 cops opened fire on him in a hail of gun fire, 15 shots fired. there have been almost 1300 people killed by police this year, and the year isn't over, it's absolutely insane how many people they are killing.
The majority of police do a good job...and put their lives on the line every day!
norelco pc then they need to stop protecting the bad ones, it's ruining their reputation.
RachelDavisMatthews People say that Peter Gabel was a communist J€w. I don't know if they're right, though.
Nice head of hair Peter had, there. And he certainly had his father's face!
hcombs0104 He is in his seventies today. He hair is much longer now, than in this show.
The older what's my line was much better
Peter looks just like his dad!
Peter Gabel was nice looking at that stage.
He died of a heart attack in 2022.
Wikipedia has the cause of death as Amyloidosis. Other sources have it as a heart attack.
The 1974 WML with Martin Gabel as the mystery guest is now available on UA-cam.
I don't know how she didn't recognise his voice instantly
Hello ?? It was disguised or did you just not know it.
2:44 - 2:46 Why did Larry do that? Why did he tell them that? I feel he should've let them figure it out on their own. Yes's or no's were enough.
Keith, they are always rushing this show, and cutting the guests’ time, which I think is really rude. They have these little skits now that take up all the time. I wish they had left it like the original show.
It was Soupy Sales that said he was the son etc..
@@willg4802 You must forgive me, Will. I haven't seen this in over a year. I didn't even remember that I made this comment until now and that's not the only one that I don't remember. I have made a lot of them, but that's beside the point. I just saw and heard the portion that I highlighted a year ago and I have come to the embarrassing conclusion that...you're right. I apologize on behalf of the Keith Evers of 2018 - 2019. He was an idiot.
@@jeprice08 no biggie
That Soupy ,he guessed Arlene's son !
He favors his dad .
Now I see a mrs arlene in color
Found out Peter Gabel died in October 2022 of a heart attack.
Wow, it went into colour!!
Edit - Oh it’s Arlene’s son!! 🤣
RIP Peter Gabel
Why didn’t he get involved in show business? He chose college and law school in lieu of the jungles of Vietnam. Not that I blame him.
Anyone know the original air date of this WML episode? 1973 or 1974 is what I've narrowed it down to.
I don't know Chuck,
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Right after I wrote this, I found two collector's websites that list taping dates (being syndicated, an air date would be difficult to ascertain). Looks like this episode was taped on Dec. 27, 1973.
It says 1973 in the end credits.
Peter looks more like his dad than his mother.
Hmm, Peter is a handsome rascal, isn't he!?! Trying to fool his Mama...😆
Peter definitely looks Armenian here (Arlene had Armenian ancestry on her father's side).
***** If you couldn't tell by my last name, I am also Armenian-American. 95% of last names that end with "Ian" or "Yan" are of Armenian origin.
WE GET IT BABE WITH THE SAME COMMENT OVER AND OVER,YOUR AN ANTI-SEMITE AND OBVIOUSLY NOT SHY ABOUT IT.
What was her mother?
If Arlene is representative, then Armenians are a beautiful stock.
He looks just like his dad.
it would be, for the longest time they actually had a stage show hosted by J. Keith van Stratten. They had dependents of the host and panelists as mystery guests and panelists themselves. I'd host this show for free.
What year broadcast was this?
I think Peter Gabel made his appearance as a guest for the second time in "What's My Line." He was a guest for the first time back in 1964, when he was still a teenager.
Bluejeans0701 I've seen that clip. They just referred to him as Mr. X with the panel blindfolded (of course). Back then, his line was a guide at the New York World's Fair.
Bluejeans0701 He has been a guest 3 times.
+Purple Capricorn That's right. He was also on with Jonathan Cerf, Bennett's son, as co-editors of the Harvard Lampoon.
He also made an appearance on I've Got a Secret with Jonathan Cerf and Dorothy's children.
watch: 04:22-04:28 notice that she embraces him but he does not want to raise his arms to embrace her...in another interview he stated that he grew up in an "envelope" and didn't have much opportunity to just "be" with his parents...I'm sure they had a good relationship...but being the son of two very talented and successful show business people must have left him many a times where they really couldn't connect as much as he would have wanted.
I noticed as well that Peter didn't embrace his mother. He moved out of his home, starting when he went to boarding high school in another state (Deerfield Academy?). That is not that much time living together as a family. Manhattan has had many quality high schools for the well to do. I don't know why he couldn't have stayed living at home for high school.
She wanted to make sure that he went to Harvard...it was "her" son!@@valentinr.dominguez2892
A younger PG was also a mystery guest in the original version 🎩
No, I like the John Daly version much better.
Was Henry Morgan physically challenged when this show was made? I ask because he didn't get up and 'mingle' at the end like everyone else did. Could it be he was just being Henry Morgan, and was miffed because Soupy jumped his ID of Peter Gabel? It wouldn't be the first time that Henry has tsouris with other panel members.
+Michael Mantle I thinks its because Peter Gabel isnt someone famous and ole Henry fails to find the humor in the whole situation. He was a cantankerous (sp?) old guy from what I remember watching him in the 60s, 70s. lol
Michael, he was just mentally challenged. 😁
Morgan was talented for sure, but his ego always ruined it.
Physical challenges could be worked around…happened with Bill Cullen all the time, who ALWAYS mingled at the end of Syn IGAS. Morgan, from all accounts, was kind of a jerk.
Look at 04:24....it's very telling that he doesn't hug his mother in return
No it's not "telling".
Peter always seemed rather annoyed when his mother couldn’t guess who he was.
Well he looks a bit difficult
What happened to the original host?
Elle, if you’re talking about John Daly he went on todo something else, I can’t remember what. I think he didn’t want to do the show in the daytime.
John Daly passed away in 1991. Larry Blyden passed away in 1975. Bing is my friend. Google is the enemy.
He was too classy for what the daytime plan was. Said no thanks. He resisted change on the Sunday eve shows, even threatened to walk once.
John Daly took a job with the US Information Agency--running the Voice of America shortwave radio network, IIRC.
the sinister morgan wasnt even payin attention with the peter 's interview portion. nor stood up to chat at the end of the show
I found him to be very rude on the show, at times.
Arlene is so beautiful and stunning and Gorgeous too 💖💯
Looks like his father!
I guess Soupy guessed it correctly.
He looks like Harold Ramis
What year?.
4:16 Did Henry Morgan fall asleep or something?
Peter looks like his father.
Peter Gabel has been said to resemble a typical Marxist J€w. Did the father have similar looks?
He looks like his father
What year was this in color ?
The police review must have been too controversial, seemed to be the host rushed off the air once the subject was brought up.
Harold Ramis before there was Harold Ramis.
I thought it said "Peter Gabriel"
Me too!😄
BTW, her son is a cutie
They should turn the comment section off!!
Arlene was the original GILF!
Soupy fooled Arlene Francis.
I have a passing acquaintance with Peter Gabel through my job and to be honest at least in my opinion he is a very strange person. He's always very frumpy looking as if he needs a shampoo bath and access to a washing machine. I spoke to him on the street one day and later someone asked why I was talking to a homeless man.
Peter Gabel and one of Bennett Cerf's sons, Jonathan Cerf were friends. They attended Deerfield Boarding School at the same time. Upon graduation, both boys studied at Harvard. I think perhaps the frumpy look came later in Peter's life and was perhaps a Berkley influence. Arlene and Martin were close friends to Bennett Cerf and his wife. I was not familiar with Deerfield boarding school, so brought it up on the net. It has a beautiful campus.
Don't u think that boarding school would have an effect on some and not in an especially good way?
oh my god! looks like you were blesses with an oversized mouth an an undersized brain.
Also, they were President and Vice President of the Harvard Lampoon. Check WML dated 3/12/67
@@outdoorfamilylifenew9396 You seem so bitterly proud of your hatred of Jews.
Just shows that reboots don't work.