Hi there🖐Great point and I think we were aiming for the joists to run in the same direction as the length of the room so you can see more of the ply (higher cieling) as you look back up the room, plus it leaves a wider board on the outside to fix the steps and balustrades to which will also be more sturdy as the joist ends are screwed to it👍I can't see any problem with running the joists the other, might just have had to have a couple of different details to make it look right👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Del, if you had run left to right you would have to put a noggin or two to support the front rail to prevent twist. The way you have done it prevents twist and no noggins required as the wall supports don’t require them. I would do the same if I could reach. Keep up the good pal.
Great video. One thought though, would it be stronger to have the sides which are screwed into the block wall house out so that the front rail is set into it and so supported by it, rather than relying on the screws as it is now?
Hi there🖐You're suggestion would work great, and arguably, be stronger, but we wanted the front rail/trimmer to run all the way across, plus it made cutting all the components and setting out a bit easier👍Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Nice build del! Probably would ve used bigger screws for the bricks but this prolly would do fine. At first i thought you were the extremely tall carpenter but you confessed in the end haha. I always make sure to bring my own puppers to a job so it is a great job. Have a goood week!
@@thetallcarpenter yeah i think you are right. I am used to heave storage builds so i always go a bit overkill i gues but appearence is less of an issue there
Looking great Del! Glad to see the pros also curse unsquare walls. I don’t know if the underside will be enclosed… so any “extra” fixings would be an aesthetic problem. You mentioned upgrading the fixings on the far ends of the side plates a couple of times (looked like you had used 5x80mm screws in 6mm red plugs?). As an efficient solution, could (or did) you bang in some of the chunkier frame fixings you’ve used in other videos at intermediate intervals as a quick belt and braces reinforcement? Or are you more inclined just to use bigger screws in the existing plugs/holes? Or re-drill? Is your decision based on material cost, time or appearance? For me, the subject of “fixings” and how you choose size + type for different jobs, loads & timber sizes would be an awesome standalone video, or something to cover in each video. It was something I really sweated over during a recent floor levelling project (installing sister joists + perimeter and intermediate noggins for replacement T&G chipboard). I ended up using a mixture of frame fixings for attaching to the blockwork, spax construction and regular 80mm screws for noggins and a mix of carpenters mate pro hex head coach screws and proper coach bolts + washers (both EN 14592) for the joists. Probably well over the top…. But as a relative newbie I didn’t want to leave anything to chance!!
Hi AH🖐This structure is all open, so all fixings will be on display👊If I do decide to upgrade those fixings, it would be with M10x100mm Fischer type fixings, as they are extremely strong💪I will say, however, that, even just a single, quality, 5mm x 80mm fixing will give fantastic hold and support a great load. We have slowly been conditioned by ever more fearful structural engineers, over the years, to believe that simple screws and nails are somehow no longer sufficient in terms of their holding power, and instead, fixing solutions with a hugely excessive safety factors have been specified😮Great comment, and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter great reply, thank you Del. Indeed I imagine the structural engineers sleep better at night - safe in the knowledge they won't be sued - if they over-specify the hell out of everything.
Tidy. Did you use a studfinder to find he studs? Id be a bit wary if i didnt know exactly where they were and guessing where the fixings would go, some old gafs the studs are nowhere near 400 or 600 centers
Hi Eddie🖐Fortunately, I built the wall when I cut the roof on, so I know the studs were at 400mm centres from the right hand wall👊 If I didn't know where they were, I would just guess roughly where the studs were, and then use a small nail through the plasterboard to the stud exactly👍 Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Del, I don’t have much experience making jigs. Can I just ask what size router cutter you used and how much did you add to the jig in order to get the perfect trench? Cheers pal.
Hi Paul🖐Its actually surprisingly simple. I use a 30mm guide collar and a 12.7mm cutter. I take 12.7 from 30 equalling 17.3mm. This is then added to the thickness of the material that you want to make a trench for. Basically, the collar sits 8.65mm out from the cutting edge, so this goes for each side as the trench is wider than 12.7mm👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
doing something similar for myself and partner except only held up on opposite walls, cant see what screws your using but mines going into brickwalls using M10 bolts and anchors and 47 x 125mm c16 wall timbers and joists (just under 2m span) hopefully wont fall down :) using joist hangers too since im boarding top and bottom
@@thetallcarpenter i may have over engineered it a bit, how much weight do you think it would take? 30cm centres 1.9m spans, about 1.8 wide. using 9mm plyboard on bottom, did buy loft boards for the top but im not going to use them theres about 80kg of weight right there already so will find something a bit lighter. also not sure how many of these m10 wall anchors to use i have 6 for each side currently. Appreciate any tips :)
@@davidwallis494 your platform will take a VAST load David👍 Its not a big span for the timbers and centres you've used, plus you've used joists hangers plus 6no, M10 fixings each side👊
Hi del , can I ask do you keep notes for doing different carpentry task/ read books on specific ways of doing things for example cut roofs? I find myself taking notes on ways of doing things step by step is this a waste of time do you think ? And instead a quick flick of a good carpentry book is all you need ? Cheers
Hi Milo🖐I've never taken notes on any carpentry tasks. For me, it either sticks in your head or it doesn't. That is not to say, that if I did take notes, it might help me recall how to do something if I didn't get it first time or forgot it. I tend to find most aspects of carpentry are done by looking at them in smaller chunks and and applying what you DO know, logically to a specific task. For instance, I was taught the real basics of roofing, but as the roofs I've done over the years have become more and complex, (in roofing terms), I have found that I can apply the basic roofing knowledge I have to the more complex ones and complete them with relative ease. In that respect, a vast amount of my roofing knowledge, is actually self taught. You do whatever works for you, and if that's taking notes, then that's great👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter do you find that carpentry is learnt by trial and error and doing the job ,making mistakes and learning from them is carpentry something that you can’t learn by the book? And is learnt by doing ?
Hi Del, either you are a guy on the level or you had pre marked the wall as to where the wall plates were going to attach as you screwed them in without the use of a spirit level! and bagsy not me putting the mattress up there! Don't forget a puppy is not just for new jobs it is for life!
Hi Michael🖐As good as my eye is for level, I did put some pencil marks on a laser line🤩Mattress installation is not my department 😝Thanks for your great comment and for watching 😎Cheers Del
“Not tall enough”…. What hope is there for the rest of us. Lovely job looking forward to seeing the balustrade. Thanks for another great vid
Hi Iain🖐I realise the irony of me complaining about my height😝Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
‘ It’s all clear for you ‘ - classic ! - Very nice methodical work .
You know it Mark🤣Not tye first time, and won't be the last😬Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Excellent. Love the chair you used to get up
I'm busted b21playa😝Thanks for your comment and for watching😎Cheers Del
Im about to build one of these for my daughter so this video is great timing!
That's awesome Chris🤩Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Top work again Del, that little Makita SDS is a great little tool, got one myself. 👍
Literally just finished watching part 1, thanks!
You're the first DANXR2🤩Thanks for watching Part 1, and hope you like Part 2😎Cheers Del
Great job Del
Thanks for watching Carl🤩Cheers Del
Great video Del.......thanks
Hi Michael🖐Thanks, as always, for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Superb T.C, your playing a blinder, 👍😁 🔨 🇮🇪
Thanks TN🤩
@@thetallcarpenter By the way that little Makita 12V SDS is a beauty. I've been waiting ten years for Bosch to release a 12V SDS! 🙄😆 🔨 🇮🇪
@@Toyotaamazon80series It is a cracking little piece of kit TN👊
Looks cool 👌🏴
Thanks for watching Peter😎Cheers Del
Excellent Del
Cheers Robert😎
Excellent job mate 👍
Cheers Tyler🤩
Looking great del thank you
Cheers John🤩Thanks for watching👊
Hi Del, nice job! Just wondering if there was a reason to run the joists front/back not left/right where there are walls at both ends? Cheers!
Hi there🖐Great point and I think we were aiming for the joists to run in the same direction as the length of the room so you can see more of the ply (higher cieling) as you look back up the room, plus it leaves a wider board on the outside to fix the steps and balustrades to which will also be more sturdy as the joist ends are screwed to it👍I can't see any problem with running the joists the other, might just have had to have a couple of different details to make it look right👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thanks, you’re right it will look better your way 👍
Del, if you had run left to right you would have to put a noggin or two to support the front rail to prevent twist. The way you have done it prevents twist and no noggins required as the wall supports don’t require them. I would do the same if I could reach. Keep up the good pal.
👍 someplace for the chippy to snooze 😉😁☘️🇮🇪👏🤟
You'd never get caught up there John🥱😴Thanks for watching bud😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter 😅
Were you stood on the puppy to reach the slats?🐾
😮😮😮😆
Great video. One thought though, would it be stronger to have the sides which are screwed into the block wall house out so that the front rail is set into it and so supported by it, rather than relying on the screws as it is now?
Hi there🖐You're suggestion would work great, and arguably, be stronger, but we wanted the front rail/trimmer to run all the way across, plus it made cutting all the components and setting out a bit easier👍Thanks for watching and your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Nice build del! Probably would ve used bigger screws for the bricks but this prolly would do fine. At first i thought you were the extremely tall carpenter but you confessed in the end haha. I always make sure to bring my own puppers to a job so it is a great job. Have a goood week!
Hi Tom🖐Those fixing will be more than enough, as its only a bed deck, so no real weight going up there👊Have a good week yourself bud👍Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter yeah i think you are right. I am used to heave storage builds so i always go a bit overkill i gues but appearence is less of an issue there
Great vid again 🤘😎🤘
Hi Wayne🤩Have a good week bud😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter You too 👍👍
What size screws and fixings did you use? Have to do this too... 🙂
The main, supporting joists were fixed M8x100mm frame fixings, and the rest was screwed together with 5x80 wood screws👊Cheers Del
Looking great Del! Glad to see the pros also curse unsquare walls.
I don’t know if the underside will be enclosed… so any “extra” fixings would be an aesthetic problem. You mentioned upgrading the fixings on the far ends of the side plates a couple of times (looked like you had used 5x80mm screws in 6mm red plugs?). As an efficient solution, could (or did) you bang in some of the chunkier frame fixings you’ve used in other videos at intermediate intervals as a quick belt and braces reinforcement? Or are you more inclined just to use bigger screws in the existing plugs/holes? Or re-drill? Is your decision based on material cost, time or appearance?
For me, the subject of “fixings” and how you choose size + type for different jobs, loads & timber sizes would be an awesome standalone video, or something to cover in each video.
It was something I really sweated over during a recent floor levelling project (installing sister joists + perimeter and intermediate noggins for replacement T&G chipboard). I ended up using a mixture of frame fixings for attaching to the blockwork, spax construction and regular 80mm screws for noggins and a mix of carpenters mate pro hex head coach screws and proper coach bolts + washers (both EN 14592) for the joists. Probably well over the top…. But as a relative newbie I didn’t want to leave anything to chance!!
Hi AH🖐This structure is all open, so all fixings will be on display👊If I do decide to upgrade those fixings, it would be with M10x100mm Fischer type fixings, as they are extremely strong💪I will say, however, that, even just a single, quality, 5mm x 80mm fixing will give fantastic hold and support a great load. We have slowly been conditioned by ever more fearful structural engineers, over the years, to believe that simple screws and nails are somehow no longer sufficient in terms of their holding power, and instead, fixing solutions with a hugely excessive safety factors have been specified😮Great comment, and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter great reply, thank you Del. Indeed I imagine the structural engineers sleep better at night - safe in the knowledge they won't be sued - if they over-specify the hell out of everything.
@@pjeball Nail on head bud👊
Tidy. Did you use a studfinder to find he studs? Id be a bit wary if i didnt know exactly where they were and guessing where the fixings would go, some old gafs the studs are nowhere near 400 or 600 centers
Hi Eddie🖐Fortunately, I built the wall when I cut the roof on, so I know the studs were at 400mm centres from the right hand wall👊 If I didn't know where they were, I would just guess roughly where the studs were, and then use a small nail through the plasterboard to the stud exactly👍 Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Del, I don’t have much experience making jigs. Can I just ask what size router cutter you used and how much did you add to the jig in order to get the perfect trench? Cheers pal.
Hi Paul🖐Its actually surprisingly simple. I use a 30mm guide collar and a 12.7mm cutter. I take 12.7 from 30 equalling 17.3mm. This is then added to the thickness of the material that you want to make a trench for. Basically, the collar sits 8.65mm out from the cutting edge, so this goes for each side as the trench is wider than 12.7mm👍Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter cheers Del . I’ll definitely have a go the next time I have a job that I think I would use it.
Love your videos pal… thanks !!
@@paulyoull5472 I appreciate your regular comments Paul, and obviously you watching 😎Cheers Del
doing something similar for myself and partner except only held up on opposite walls, cant see what screws your using but mines going into brickwalls using M10 bolts and anchors and 47 x 125mm c16 wall timbers and joists (just under 2m span) hopefully wont fall down :) using joist hangers too since im boarding top and bottom
Your bed deck sounds like it could survive the impending nuclear war 😆Its certainly wont be going anywhere💪Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter i may have over engineered it a bit, how much weight do you think it would take? 30cm centres 1.9m spans, about 1.8 wide. using 9mm plyboard on bottom, did buy loft boards for the top but im not going to use them theres about 80kg of weight right there already so will find something a bit lighter. also not sure how many of these m10 wall anchors to use i have 6 for each side currently. Appreciate any tips :)
@@davidwallis494 your platform will take a VAST load David👍 Its not a big span for the timbers and centres you've used, plus you've used joists hangers plus 6no, M10 fixings each side👊
Hi del , can I ask do you keep notes for doing different carpentry task/ read books on specific ways of doing things for example cut roofs? I find myself taking notes on ways of doing things step by step is this a waste of time do you think ? And instead a quick flick of a good carpentry book is all you need ? Cheers
Hi Milo🖐I've never taken notes on any carpentry tasks. For me, it either sticks in your head or it doesn't. That is not to say, that if I did take notes, it might help me recall how to do something if I didn't get it first time or forgot it. I tend to find most aspects of carpentry are done by looking at them in smaller chunks and and applying what you DO know, logically to a specific task. For instance, I was taught the real basics of roofing, but as the roofs I've done over the years have become more and complex, (in roofing terms), I have found that I can apply the basic roofing knowledge I have to the more complex ones and complete them with relative ease. In that respect, a vast amount of my roofing knowledge, is actually self taught. You do whatever works for you, and if that's taking notes, then that's great👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter do you have any carpentry books/manuals? Thanks for that answer that was very informative thanks !
@@miloclarke5486 I don't Milo😩and I've never seen any😲(mind you, never been in a book shop either🤪)Cheers
@@thetallcarpenter fair enough mate 😂 cheers
@@thetallcarpenter do you find that carpentry is learnt by trial and error and doing the job ,making mistakes and learning from them is carpentry something that you can’t learn by the book? And is learnt by doing ?
The lost rag gag was good Del, but the carpentry is better
Hi Johnny🖐There was more to lost rag comment, but I left it out😝Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Hi Del, either you are a guy on the level or you had pre marked the wall as to where the wall plates were going to attach as you screwed them in without the use of a spirit level! and bagsy not me putting the mattress up there! Don't forget a puppy is not just for new jobs it is for life!
Hi Michael🖐As good as my eye is for level, I did put some pencil marks on a laser line🤩Mattress installation is not my department 😝Thanks for your great comment and for watching 😎Cheers Del
Every job needs a fresh puppy 😅
Too right Mike🤩Absolutely gorgeous little thing🤗Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
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Cheers Paddy👊
Hi Del👍👍😎
Hi there Peter🤩Have a good week bud😎
😲🤯🤯🤯🤯🤩🤩🤩🤩
Cheers Garviel 👊
I loose My Rag 4 time's a day 😜🤣😂🤣
Love the Safety Chair Hop UP 😉
Stay calm and carry on George😖Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Keep the chair a secret George, it's bad for my professional image😝Cheers Del
Oops 😜🤣😂🤣