I think we all know that you don't need any crit rate or dmg on Furina(i mean Verina) even if you got her to S6 with R5 Variation. But do you think crit rate(and dmg) is useful for Surekeeper? I think you'll want energy recharge & and crit rate on all of her echoes(with crit rate 4cost instead of hp or heal) but that only IF you get her S6(which provides massive +200% crit dmg bonus - so with great echoes u can get 65+% crit rate and 400+% crit dmg but even then i don't think her damage is gonna be that good). TLDR: afaik getting ER substats(with hp% and/or flat hp stats) on all 5 echoes would be best setup for Surekeeper unless u r some mega bluewhale with S6R5 on everything. i.e. (4cost hp or heal, 2x 3cost energy recharge, 2x 1cost hp main stat with full rejuvenation set) & that should give you total 260-270 energy recharge with lvl90 variation(add +25er with her sig weapon) ***But that's just what i'm guessing so please correct me if im wrong. not sure, maybe it's better to go for crit rate main stat 4cost and/or with full Moonlit set, etc.
Absolutely going for Shorekeeper. If I've learned anything from gacha games, it's that support characters are completely crucial when it comes to chewing through the harder content. Camellya sure looks cool, but Shorekeeper is going to be the game's first limited banner support, and her aesthetic and kit both look fantastic.
exactly as an early HSR player just having one which was natasha was such a struggle and sustains last forever until they release another that is better. dps can always get power crept but sustains last a long time.
I’ve skipped ruan mei on hsr every banner in favor of another dps. I only recently started trying to do the endgame content and… I regret not getting her 💀
I saw someone calculate she gives about 10% more dmg than verina and the same amount of healing. I'm not convinced it's worth it as we can just out dmg bosses before we need a healer once our echos get crazy good
I'm def getting Surekeeper but not sure bout her weapon or cons atm, cos Stellar Symphony(sig weapon) with super high er and triple bonus looks great at glance, but: 1. getting 250-260+ er isn't hard, my Verina's got 265er with rejuven set n variation. 2. +12% hp won't do much even on Shorekeeper or Baizhi. 3. +8 concerto on liberation good but you get better from 4star weapon variation. (+8 concerto on skill) 4. so imo +14% atk buff for party member is the only real reason u would go for this weapon. But many will have R5 Variation(+16 concerto on skill) in near future, so probably better go for S1R0 Surekeeper(over S0R1), but: 1. S1 sounds awesome with 50% longer duration for her liberation and significantly large buff area, but her liberation already lasts 30secs with only 25secs cooldown, so.. 2. S2 also sounds great with upto +15% dmg buff(5x +3% dmg & u also get some self heal) but her skill got super slow 16sec cooldown so i dont think it'll provide that much dmg buff to the team. 3. S3 = +20 concerto when team member use intro - so S3R1 Shorekeeper would def better than S2 Furina with R5 Variation.. but then you are investing bit too much to healer/supporter and probably better to use that Astrite for your fav main dps.
@@Doraemon-jm5oo Variation is super gg random 4star weapon from banner(i think it got listed on weapon banner once so far), it's also the BIS weapon for the best char in wuwa atm(Verina). It's probably the best, if not one of the best 4star weapon cos S2 Verina with R2-3+ Variation can max out concerto in like 2-3secs.
Shorekeeper is the only right answer. We got Xiangli Yao, Jiyan, Havoc rover, Changli, Encore, Jinshi and calcharo as main DPS units and we only got verina and baizhi. Get shorekeeper bro cause camellya will come back or who knows u might get lucky and pull her when she comes out
shorekeeper is more valuable to an account since you need 3 support for tower and shes likely just better than verina because of crit while camellya is a dps unless she ppwercreeps jinhsi shes just gonna be another good dps which we have plenty of they literally gave one for free with xiangli yao but id have to skip shorekeeper because waifu>meta i could probably do both since i havent pulled anything aside from changli but i also want the weapon for aesthetic and im setting this up for when phrolova comes out which she would liekly be fusion or havoc so i can cover her no matter what besides shorekeeper is going to get rerun first over camellya so that's good for skippers
I’m probably going for camellya. I already have Verina and she works just fine with me. But I will probably get Shorekeeper on her rerun unless she’s powercrept by then
I'm not sure I'll win 50/50 if I try for Shorekeeper, Heard She's a grade stronger than Verina, but fills up Concerto as fast as a normal character, like Baizhi.
If you already have S2 Verina with R4-5 Variation then Shorekeeper isn't that impressive.. and if you have S4+ Verina then i seriously doubt Shorekeeper can Verina for spectro dps team like Jinhsi(unless Surekeeper is S6R5 oc). At least that's what i thought simply cos S2+ Verina with R3+ Variation require min field time(S4 also provide spectro dmg buff), but now i think bout it Shorekeeper's S3 might be super op cos u'll basically get +20 concerto after casting liberation - i think might mean that Shorekeeper can probably have her cencerto maxed out all the time during battle after casting the first liberation. Anyone with S3 Shorekeeper will obviously have her sig weapon(or variation, most likely both), so her liberation and outro should already(if not very very close) be ready after each rotation.
Since shorekeepers weapons isn’t exactly absolutely needed in hope to get shorekeeper and save the rest of the pulls for canellya I already have a 5 star sword for camellya
Shorekeepr because she's a five star support and a former genshin player i know how important supports are . But mainly because she's GODDAM GORGEOUS . LOOK AT THEM ASSETS.
I guess itll depend what Camellya does. I think we all know at least now Shorekeeper is the first limited sustainer. So alternating between her and Verina will be big for accounts in the Tower. Camellya is probably gonna be a main dps or if they want her to be flexible maybe a sub dps but again thats another damage dealer. Shorekeeper is the obvious choice but yeah everyone wants Camellya cause of that one scene in the story
Shorekeeper is meta, chamelia if dps, has to compete with jinshi, or atleast changli and yao. Since most players have either jinshi or changli already, if she is just on par, i don’t think she is must pull. But shorekeeper is must, specially considering new toa needs 3 healers
a few extra astrites.... just a few? especially if you lose the 50/50 and you only get one copy after $100 worth of pulls? Guess you don't have bills, a mortgage, family, etc
I'm guaranteed shorekeeper and at pity for wep. That gives me a month to save more wep and toon pulls. I will get cammelya, her weapon tho is up in the air for now unless I swipe
Im saving for yinlin and her sig. in this game I always save a lot to get weapon and character for aesthetic purpose and it feels like completed with wep
I’ll pull for Cammellya cause I lost my 50/50 on shorekeepers banner and I honestly need a DPS cause I have almost build every DPS character I have and I am still bored so I’ll probably get Cammellya lol.
I got a guarantee for shorekeeper :3 Was at 30 pity hoped to snipe a danjin for s6 but got s1 lingyang T.T now 0 pity guarantee with currently 44 tides.
I need more dps i don't have any good dps caracters in my account rather than changli and xly i will get the shorekeeper in the rerun for sure so camellya for me ..
Sry, I tried but can't even open Echocalpyse on my phone lol. Btw I'll save for Camel, Shorekeeper is like one of those characters that won't come up again the so called important character with no screen time. Tho I will still grab Youhu since I'm also collecting smoll characters.
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I think we all know that you don't need any crit rate or dmg on Furina(i mean Verina) even if you got her to S6 with R5 Variation.
But do you think crit rate(and dmg) is useful for Surekeeper? I think you'll want energy recharge & and crit rate on all of her echoes(with crit rate 4cost instead of hp or heal) but that only IF you get her S6(which provides massive +200% crit dmg bonus - so with great echoes u can get 65+% crit rate and 400+% crit dmg but even then i don't think her damage is gonna be that good).
TLDR: afaik getting ER substats(with hp% and/or flat hp stats) on all 5 echoes would be best setup for Surekeeper unless u r some mega bluewhale with S6R5 on everything.
i.e. (4cost hp or heal, 2x 3cost energy recharge, 2x 1cost hp main stat with full rejuvenation set) & that should give you total 260-270 energy recharge with lvl90 variation(add +25er with her sig weapon)
***But that's just what i'm guessing so please correct me if im wrong. not sure, maybe it's better to go for crit rate main stat 4cost and/or with full Moonlit set, etc.
Absolutely going for Shorekeeper. If I've learned anything from gacha games, it's that support characters are completely crucial when it comes to chewing through the harder content. Camellya sure looks cool, but Shorekeeper is going to be the game's first limited banner support, and her aesthetic and kit both look fantastic.
exactly as an early HSR player just having one which was natasha was such a struggle and sustains last forever until they release another that is better. dps can always get power crept but sustains last a long time.
I’ve skipped ruan mei on hsr every banner in favor of another dps. I only recently started trying to do the endgame content and… I regret not getting her 💀
I saw someone calculate she gives about 10% more dmg than verina and the same amount of healing. I'm not convinced it's worth it as we can just out dmg bosses before we need a healer once our echos get crazy good
Me too, I go for that stupid Silver Wolf should save for her instead. That woman is so userful 😔
fr, DPS come and go and get powercrept. but strong supports will last a while
The easy answer to this. Just get lucky. Get both.
Or whale and get both
Yep sounds like a skill issue 😂
True just need luck and a little bit of pennies
What kind of aswer is that? 🤨
What skill has to do with pulling for characters?
Facts
I'm def getting Surekeeper but not sure bout her weapon or cons atm, cos Stellar Symphony(sig weapon) with super high er and triple bonus looks great at glance, but:
1. getting 250-260+ er isn't hard, my Verina's got 265er with rejuven set n variation.
2. +12% hp won't do much even on Shorekeeper or Baizhi.
3. +8 concerto on liberation good but you get better from 4star weapon variation. (+8 concerto on skill)
4. so imo +14% atk buff for party member is the only real reason u would go for this weapon.
But many will have R5 Variation(+16 concerto on skill) in near future, so probably better go for S1R0 Surekeeper(over S0R1), but:
1. S1 sounds awesome with 50% longer duration for her liberation and significantly large buff area, but her liberation already lasts 30secs with only 25secs cooldown, so..
2. S2 also sounds great with upto +15% dmg buff(5x +3% dmg & u also get some self heal) but her skill got super slow 16sec cooldown so i dont think it'll provide that much dmg buff to the team.
3. S3 = +20 concerto when team member use intro - so S3R1 Shorekeeper would def better than S2 Furina with R5 Variation.. but then you are investing bit too much to healer/supporter and probably better to use that Astrite for your fav main dps.
This comment helped me stay strong for cammellya. I’ll def only get 1 copy of shorekeepr at least 😅
Is Variation a battlepass weapon or something? I don't have a single copy. What are the f2p options? Only the craftable rectifier?
@@Doraemon-jm5oo Variation is super gg random 4star weapon from banner(i think it got listed on weapon banner once so far), it's also the BIS weapon for the best char in wuwa atm(Verina).
It's probably the best, if not one of the best 4star weapon cos S2 Verina with R2-3+ Variation can max out concerto in like 2-3secs.
Shorekeeper is the only right answer. We got Xiangli Yao, Jiyan, Havoc rover, Changli, Encore, Jinshi and calcharo as main DPS units and we only got verina and baizhi. Get shorekeeper bro cause camellya will come back or who knows u might get lucky and pull her when she comes out
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shorekeeper is more valuable to an account since you need 3 support for tower and shes likely just better than verina because of crit while camellya is a dps unless she ppwercreeps jinhsi shes just gonna be another good dps which we have plenty of they literally gave one for free with xiangli yao but id have to skip shorekeeper because waifu>meta i could probably do both since i havent pulled anything aside from changli but i also want the weapon for aesthetic and im setting this up for when phrolova comes out which she would liekly be fusion or havoc so i can cover her no matter what besides shorekeeper is going to get rerun first over camellya so that's good for skippers
Lol indeed waifu> meta
Doubt she gonna power creep Jinshi as she is gonna be on the rerun after her i believe
IM GETTING CAMELLYA IDC I LOVE HER I’VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER
I'm so hyped for this patch man specifically for the story and lore. and hope I get lucky with Shorekeeper though.
I’m probably going for camellya. I already have Verina and she works just fine with me. But I will probably get Shorekeeper on her rerun unless she’s powercrept by then
currently have 3 days left for shorekeeper... im at 60 pity rn 😭
I'm not sure I'll win 50/50 if I try for Shorekeeper, Heard She's a grade stronger than Verina, but fills up Concerto as fast as a normal character, like Baizhi.
If you already have S2 Verina with R4-5 Variation then Shorekeeper isn't that impressive.. and if you have S4+ Verina then i seriously doubt Shorekeeper can Verina for spectro dps team like Jinhsi(unless Surekeeper is S6R5 oc).
At least that's what i thought simply cos S2+ Verina with R3+ Variation require min field time(S4 also provide spectro dmg buff), but now i think bout it Shorekeeper's S3 might be super op cos u'll basically get +20 concerto after casting liberation - i think might mean that Shorekeeper can probably have her cencerto maxed out all the time during battle after casting the first liberation.
Anyone with S3 Shorekeeper will obviously have her sig weapon(or variation, most likely both), so her liberation and outro should already(if not very very close) be ready after each rotation.
I haven't got my xiangli yoa when I pulled 80 last time instead I got calcharo but I wonder will I be able to get 50/50 or i have to pull 80 again ?
Who are you going for IF you can't get both? :)
Probably camelya more, but i like youhu, so i try to get her, even i accidentally pull storekeeper
Na i would win.
Since shorekeepers weapons isn’t exactly absolutely needed in hope to get shorekeeper and save the rest of the pulls for canellya I already have a 5 star sword for camellya
Shorekeepr because she's a five star support and a former genshin player i know how important supports are . But mainly because she's GODDAM GORGEOUS . LOOK AT THEM ASSETS.
With Shorekeeper in my Jinshi/Zhezhi team hologram bosses will fall over in 2 full rotations.
I guess itll depend what Camellya does. I think we all know at least now Shorekeeper is the first limited sustainer. So alternating between her and Verina will be big for accounts in the Tower. Camellya is probably gonna be a main dps or if they want her to be flexible maybe a sub dps but again thats another damage dealer. Shorekeeper is the obvious choice but yeah everyone wants Camellya cause of that one scene in the story
it will be easy for me to skip them both cuz why not to get more silver candys.
Shorekeeper is meta, chamelia if dps, has to compete with jinshi, or atleast changli and yao. Since most players have either jinshi or changli already, if she is just on par, i don’t think she is must pull. But shorekeeper is must, specially considering new toa needs 3 healers
Bro can you explain that 3 healers thing please. I see so many comments about it but I don’t get it
@@GonçaloCaetanoBorges You need 3 teams to fully clear all of Tower of Adversity, so 3 healers would be ideal, 1 for each. team
@@lelolelo5441 thanks a lot! ^^
From meta point of view... there are tons of DPS chars but only one Verina.... choice is clear.
just support the game and pay for few extra astrites to get both; i’m definitely getting both na yihan too
a few extra astrites.... just a few? especially if you lose the 50/50 and you only get one copy after $100 worth of pulls? Guess you don't have bills, a mortgage, family, etc
I'm guaranteed shorekeeper and at pity for wep. That gives me a month to save more wep and toon pulls. I will get cammelya, her weapon tho is up in the air for now unless I swipe
nah cuz y'all need shorekeeper. the Crit buffs are insane
Im saving for yinlin and her sig. in this game I always save a lot to get weapon and character for aesthetic purpose and it feels like completed with wep
I’ll pull for Cammellya cause I lost my 50/50 on shorekeepers banner and I honestly need a DPS cause I have almost build every DPS character I have and I am still bored so I’ll probably get Cammellya lol.
I'm pulling for Camellya and I'm not pulling out...
Me too maybe shorekeeper in the rerun
ayooo, blud thought we'll let that one slide...
@@zerefuuutv hmm why so
@@Romeo777gaming you're too innocent to notice, keep being innocent. imma shut ma mouth
@@zerefuuutv also shut you damn mouth
I got a guarantee for shorekeeper :3
Was at 30 pity hoped to snipe a danjin for s6 but got s1 lingyang T.T now 0 pity guarantee with currently 44 tides.
let verina rest, pull for shorekeeper
Gonna pull for SHOREKEEPER if i miss then camellya is guaranteed
I'm saving for yinlin rerun and get shorekeeper on her rerun
I need more dps i don't have any good dps caracters in my account rather than changli and xly i will get the shorekeeper in the rerun for sure so camellya for me ..
Isn’t it weird that Shorekeeper is a spectro? She looks glacio
Don't let the genshin brainrot get to you
kuro has a long history of doing that, check PGR
Sry, I tried but can't even open Echocalpyse on my phone lol.
Btw I'll save for Camel, Shorekeeper is like one of those characters that won't come up again the so called important character with no screen time. Tho I will still grab Youhu since I'm also collecting smoll characters.
Duh! Get BOTH, easy decision
Loved this video, keep it up, but In my opinion...
I'm just gonna get both I'm P2W god lmao.
Haha good luck getting them early!
Getting camellya cuz I like her more
Shorekeeper ❤
Who else used yuwanwu as a healer??
me! in jinhsi team!!! i was using taoqi and calcharo on rejuv set on the side towers 🤣 oh and baizhi ofc.
@@leo-um3pj nice I was also using taoqi until zhezhi
If you want to come your camellia to do DM yoo pull for shorekeeper
c2 camellya or c2 shorekeeper ?
do the lustrous tide banners change ? or just the limited 5 star and weapon limited one this will be my first update since im playing
they are fixed, u can only chose what weapon u want to get as 5 stars
Both 👍
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Only shorekeeper wooooo❤❤️🥰😍😋😋🙌🙌
i can clear toa easily, so shorekeeper.
Skip both
I save pulls character Camellya
both? i want both
interesting sponsor...
I say both
I'm going for 2.0 characters 😂
best decision because we can't survive from hype😂