Since this weapon doesn't work on Verina, and I don't like playing Baizhi, I think I'll have to skip on it for now. Camellya's got the astrites reserved.
The thing I would note is that you call Variation more affordable, but that's not necessarily the case. I've rolled several hundred pulls now, but I still don't have a copy. I even tried fishing on a weapon banner where it rated up, but couldn't get it in a few ten pulls. Guaranteeing a 5 star costs a lot, but you can't guarantee a 4 star at all.
@@kyogre-blue idk if its mentioned in the video but the craftable Rectifier#25 has the same amount of ER as variation and could be a placeholder till you eventually snag a variation if you're not going for/cant get sig. Downside is worse effect, no concerto. If you take fallacy 10%ER into account and you can get lucky to get 34ish ER on echo substats you can hit 250 ER with 3* rectifier of voyage too. Then the rectifier25 can replace your voyager r5 on verina or baizhi or whatever you got goin on so maybe not fully wasted xp
@@BabaYaga0713 Yup, my Verina is using the craftable. It's manageable for sure. I don't think the video is wrong, but I do want to say that Variation has no way to be guaranteed, so even if it's the best option, it's not necessarily possible for everyone.
With Shorekeeper's sig, I do actually think that Baizhi would give more overall damage buffs than Verina. The triple ice teams (Baizhi, Sanhua, Lingyang, Zhezhi) might end up with the best overall damage in the game, especially when Baizhi's S4 or S6 gives a glacio damage boost to the entire team. With SK's Sig giving the big HP self-buff as well? Her damage might actually be meaningful.
@saintontas Probably will need testing but improving the damage of the supports is going to help the poor girl Verina rest. That girl has been CARRYING the entire games team building.
I ended up getting her weapon by just a random 10 pull! 🤩(during 20 pity and using my extra forging tides) AND I HAVEN'T EVEN UNLOCKED THE CHARACTER YET 😂😭
Im sick and tired of everyone saying variation is easy to get.I must be invisible or have the fcking plague cause im UL70, and I still dont have 1. I hard pitied string master(80), 160 for jinhsi, and 20 on her weapon and 40 pulls on changli and 30 for her weapon. I also did 70 pulls for zhezhi, and then you have all those standard banner pulls we would have gotten. Im tired of hearing that BS. You all are blessed, and im getting shorekeepers and her weapon. Have a nice day. Edit: Well, the banner is out.... and who could have guessed... I got shorekeeper and her weapon YAY!!!! But I somehow didn't get variation despite doing 30pulls for shorekeeper and 70 for the weapon. I thought fate was gonna give me 1 to spite me, but ig not. Kinda sad ngl. However, congrats to all shorekeeper enjoyers and to all still summoning, I hope you get a double 5* 💙 . Keep going, and may we all be Camellya enjoyers in the future.
Bro I feel that too😂 well since I get zezi sign for Encore I give my cosmic ripple to healers lol... Variation really hard to get huh... Dang it I was hoping a rate up in SK weap banner but we get it on jiyan weap banner... Dayum kuro why jiyan get everything I want... Youhou & Variation 🥲 I hate u green guy
Variatoon only was on the Jiyan banner ane Will be on that banner again after shorekeper banners, so if You want to pull for Jiyan weapon then You can get variation too but is not guaranteed
I have only one copy of Variation and also skipped getting Verina from the free 5 stars being fully aware of the disadvantages. Now my built Baizhi will be overjoyed with this weapon, so I will give it a try and get the weapon if possible.
just wanted to say your content probably has the best quality on wuwa videos, your videos are really well made! in contrast to other ccs who just make drama videos, this is gold
Thank you thank you for this video!! Your account is highly underrated! Im so glad as a f2p I invested all my pulls last minute on Xiangli Yao‘s weapon and at first I got a bad feeling of not investing in shorekeepers weapon but I’m so glad that you confirmed its not good for Verina!! I’m currently building verina and baizi carried me all way in 1.0 1.1 and 1.2 update, now she can rest a little bit 😂😂
🔹I'm 100% pulling for Shorekeeper 🔹Baizhi is my trusty (and only) healer so far 🔹Still didn't get a single Variation 🔹I will never build my Verina 🔹I always pamper my 5-stars with their signature weapons Easy choice for me, I guess eh. But I would REALLY like to get Variation for my Baizhi and any future Rectifier support... Whose forking goat do I have to sacrifice to get a single drop?
@@itsPoliswirl Because even if I don't mind Verina in the story, I don't like fighting with children during combat. My brain being like "This is no place for you, child, go home". I know I'm weird like that and I have no excuse 😅
@@HyperOpticalSaint Not Encore... though she's adorable in the story ! Didn't pull for Jiyan either (although the general is pretty cool and I like his EN VA). In fact, my mind was set on Jinhsi as my first investment. After that, next investment would be the first limited healer 🙂
@@PLBiohazardthat's the most bizarre reason I've ever heard why not to build a character. I didn't want her at first because of her god awful design. But her usefulness outweighs her appearance for me at the end of the day
Arguable 4th point. 'If youre not pulling for shorekeeper, you can turn baizhi into a scuffed 'lorekeeper' and save your pity on camellya instead' ..... because thats what im doin.
Gotta get it just for the drip, if I have to drop some money for Camellya later on I won't even complain lol, still have my double top-ups too since the game has been handing us pulls non-stop.
Very good video but here some information that he not mentioned -Wuwa weapon banners are 100% up rate, no pity bs , sometimes invest in it is way better than new characters that not compatible with your team and play style - Shorekeeper herself is a universal support which means if you use the logic of a weapon should be useable for multi character than invest more in Shorekeeper herself work out the same, she is useable in multi team - Her signature weapon is still a buff weapon for any healer support which means it always have longer lifespan in the long meta run compare to multi use dps weapon but get outdated fast in future
Tbh... It is a Must Pull and Not a Must Pull at the same time. I would say it is because its a 5* weapon with a bunch of amazing buffs and effects and I'd say its not because R5 Variation is a pretty reliable alternative to this weapon... Personally am not pulling because I WANT CAMELLYA AND HER WEAPON 🗿
R5 Variation, depending on the team, could actually genuinely be better than Shorekeeper's S1 Sig. Having double the concerto energy generation can mean a lot depending on the other members of the team.
look at dem people flexing their r5 variations when im here struggling to get a dupe. xD im pulling it for baizhi and save asterites for camellya. if baizhi would be able to do a fraction of the work shorekeeper does with the help of this, thats already a massive win even without shorekeeper herself
@@whisper3471 Yup, there's almost no universe where you'd play shorekeeper and verina on the same team so it's perfectly fine to have only one copy of variation for your entire tower run.
@@saintontas this but not gonna lie, I'm already getting annoyed of having to swap weapons/echo's whenever i feel like swapping teams so I'm def slowly gonna work towards characters having their own set of stuff on the ones that i build. That being sad, i am a small spender and not f2p as i try to get every character + signature.
If You can max the tower with 2 teams and lvl 1-3 Star weapons then whats the need of keeeping pulling any character, dps, sub dps or support or weapons, it does not matter anymore right? Even, why are You keep playing at that point..You pull because You want and because You can, for FUN, even in games lile genshin where end game is a piece of cake and is out there for 4 years and You dont need any character or weapons, those ppl still pull character and weapons because they want just for fun. That point of yours that You don't need that character or weapons is very stupid in a gacha Game because if You think logical like that then, why You Even play those type of games.
@@JeetGameplays thx for writing an essay to repeat my exact point. yes the tower is easy, no u dont "need" to pull anything. "You pull because You want and because You can, for FUN" yes im glad we agree, hence why i said "pull for the drip" your comprehension skills are impeccable, here have a cookie🍪👍🤣
Imagine not having a Variation /cries in me. Great video, a lot of others were selling this as a "must pull" weapon but clearly it's little more than an ER stick for most of the roster. Been running Baizhi in XL/Yinlin team and she fits in the rotation comfortably, and while she's really only buffing Yinlin's damage, the heals seem solid and her field time is very light.
The signature weapon aim is to help meet certain stat thresholds. It provides 25% more energy regen than Variation. Shorekeeper is trying to juggle between both Energy Regen and HP. Her healing and attacks scales on HP. If you meet the energy Regen threshold early, you can run more HP% main stat for cost 3 echos. Meaning more dmg/Healing.
Idk why but I feel like someone will pull this weapon, equip it on Encore, record a no-hit run fighting Tactical Hologram: The Crownless Difficulty VI and post it on youtube just out of boredom
Pass, I have R3 Variation. 14% Atk Buff and 20+% ER is not worth the resources for me, im not saying this weapon is bad. What im saying is Variation is soo good, it feels like Kuro did a mistake releasing this weapon. 😂 20+% ER will not cripple your Shorekeeper let alone 14%Atk. She is a healer, all she needs to do is keep my team alive, i can get those buffs from my subDPS if i want to deal Unga Bunga Dmg.
A video that fully explain why this weapon isn't worth pulling. Imagine if they chose to change the attack buff to just using skill. It becomes the best support weapon ever created. All rectifyer user can activate the additional buff. From healer to sub dps. Many players would try to R5 this weapon for value for long term use. A weapon that is a must have on all teams. Increasing your dps potential. It would have made kuro alot of money, wonder why they choose to limit the character usage is wild.
This is a tough one... Summary Weapon Pros: - Allows fast Liberation regeneration which Shorekeeper really needs (Does not really benefit other characters/healers) - Allows a massive duration of 14% atk buff to all characters (Only applicable to Shorekeeper & Baizhi) - Potentially good for future healers that heal on skill cast - Potentially good for future characters that relies heavily on liberation cast. Weapon Cons: - Can't be used effectively by most rectifier users in the game (Encore, Verina, Yinlin, Zhezhi) - Very low basic atk stat. The biggest thing holding me back from skipping this is bcs of that 14% teamwide atk buff that lasts 30 whole seconds. I've played PGR and their limited premium weapons which debuff enemies' elemental resistance have always been must pulls even more prioritized than dps weapons as it adds more to the teams damage. While Stellar Symphony isn't debuffing enemies like in PGR, it is still the only weapon that provides teamwide buffs and that has very high potential going into future healers in this game. If Kuro makes just one more limited premium sustain character that 1) heals on skill cast and 2) is a rectifier user, this weapon immediately becomes a must pull. Problem is we don't know if that will ever happen especially anytime soon.
This is definitely a different case from XLY signature XLY's sig only works for him, and that's pretty bad because it's damage based sig But Shorekeeper's sig is for her as a support, and it will benefit more teams to come even without swapping with verina Definitely a must pull support item
This is actually something I can get, as I only have Baizhi has my only sustain right now. When I started playing I got bad info on who I should pull for the free 5 star . . . so no Vorina for me. Pluss Shorekeepers supposed synergy with MC unit would be good as they are my main attacker while I am trying to build up Xiangli Yao
As a Baizhi user (I use her more than my Verina lol), this makes me so happy!!! I already was planning to have three teams with Shorekeeper and Baizhi on separate ones, now they can share the weapon!!!
Tbh for completely f2p, or very low spenders, its a big decision, its very good, but also not critical to have since support characters are inherently valuable because of their kit. I will personally get it, and shorekeeper to S2, because i want her for my beloved Chixa and Sanhua, also spectro rover will love her
The downside with Variation is that it's purely a gacha weapon. I have MULTIPLE signature weapons for characters but have not gotten 1 Variation yet. So theoretically, there is a chance that you, like me, could pull for some weapons on the weapon banner, and get Shorekeeper's weapon before Variation. Considering that there is no 75/25 to lose/win on the weapon banner and it's guaranteed to pull the signature weapon, theoretically, that makes Variation RARER than Shorekeeper's signature. I REALLY want to pull for Shorekeeper, but if you don't have any copies of Variation, her signature is actually very close to a "must pull" in this specific case. That, or just don't pull for Shorekeeper at all.
As a Baizhi main this weapon works well for her too (currently using Variation on her). Although I have Verina I’m much more comfortable using Baizhi, also recently just pulled Shorekeeper so it’s a win win!
@@QMS9224 the 14% atk buff is I believe has been calculated on multiple different teams and is calc'd to be on average a 6-7% increase in overall rotation dmg. So yes, agreed. If you don't NEED it to bridge the gap to 250% ER then chances are the hp% buff and the 14% atk are not enough of a reason to pull for most
Getting Shorekeeper signature depends on either you want her pure support healer bot or hybrid healer subdps. - Pure support: use variation or other alternatives using 2 ER echoes - Hybrid sub: use Signature Weapon and use 2 Spectro echoes
Considering PGR that the support character are very rare/rarely limited banner. If we want to wait for the next limited banner support character, it must still be a long time, maybe 1 year from now.
I'll get it, I have savings to get both her and her weapon during the first week, if the 60+ days left to get Camellia and her weapon aren't enough, I'm clearly doing something poorly
It’s not too op to where it’s a must pull but not so bad to where it’s not worth it. Imo if you want it go for it, it’ll provide a lot of value but if you don’t get it you’re fine.
Since am not having Verina, and already got my Baizhi to 80 before getting Shorekeeper. Since there is a need of 2 healers and Buffers, I went for the weapon but just spend 20 pulls on it and got it I was lucky so. Otherwise I don’t think I would have gotten it but no regrets since my Baizhi will be still used and is good build also can just share echoes with Shorekeeper. For me a Win / win
My take is that, you can get shorekeeper weapon, and skip shorekeeper IF you have working Baizhi. Give her weapon to Baizhi, althouh Baizhi concerto regen from this is far from ideal, hopefully can make things works until one get shorekeeper.
So one thing to note is that for Shorekeeper, energy regen is not just about getting her ult up as often as possible. Spoiler below. . . . . . . The amount of crit damage and crit rate she gives your team scales off of your energy regen on her. You need at least 250% energy regen to get the max crit rate and damage.
@@Richtofen_- I never said you needed the weapon for that. I have 250% ER on Verina with two ER main stat echos and Variation. I was just saying ER is important on Shorekeeper for more than just getting her ult as quickly as possible. But if you want to maximize Shorekeeper's healing you may want to dump one or both ER stat echoes for HP% ones. So her weapon would be a massive help in that scenario. But yeah her weapon is more for the whales like Zhezhi's weapon.
Considering I often forget to switch Variation between characters and now have Shorekeeper, I got her weapon for convenience. I also forget to switch Stringmaster between Encore & Yinlin lol No need to remember who has Variation most of the time anymore. Will only switch between Baizhi and Shorekeeper.
I have 0 variation copies somehow. My Verina and SC straight up don't have any weapon options. Should I just endure until I get one or go for the SC's signature?
I heard, variation will be on the jian weapon banner. But I just pulled shorekeeper sig cause I have a lot pulls saved, and was forced to do this without variation in stock
i had 60 pull max, and couldn't afford her weapon.. but i pulled for her, and she came home with just 40 pulls ^^ i'd like to get her weapon too but. i would be missing on any char i like in the future if i do so.. so i better be happy with my luck on her early arrive. And start saving again. And yes, her weapon is insane on any healer support really.
I am now infinitely wiser going forward. Thank you so much, Saint Ontas; I now know where and whom to spend my total balance of 15 Astrites on But seriously, damnabbit Kuro, can't you space your incredible banners further apart? We're dying here
I might pull it on her rerun if there arent any immediate characters i wanna get at that but yeah S5 variation is a solid choice for her, lucky for me.
Considering the fact that all dps 4 star weapons are absolutely dogshit unusable, if you're looking forward to pulling any dps 5 star character in the near future, SK's weapon is an easy skip. Even if you're a heavy spender, it's just not worth it when you can get the same rotation times with Variation
my take away is, its not currently worth it or useful outside of shorekeeper/bazhi or if you like drip for SK. However, i do think given the communities outcry of more support units i would not be surprised if we get one or two more that will hopefully be hp scaling also in the future. even if they come out with better sig weapons for those who have this one now it could be a decent alternative in the future. Thoughts?
i personally just want healers that aren't catalyst....it is pretty boring that SK is just another female, spectro, catalyst healer....like there is not one thing different from verina, and just the element is different to baizhi (which doesn't even matter anyway).
I love baizhi and shorekepeer. I use but don’t care for verina, but I would rather get Jinan’s weapon for my calculator but even then I’m at 30 pity and not guaranteed. I went to 75 pity for yo-yos weapon. I will definitely get it in the future.
I got the weapon twice in the ten pull in the weapon banner, even tho I did not expect to even get the weapon lmaoo cause I was aiming for the 4 star energy recharge weapon for ShoreKeeper. Looks like I got a new weapon for both Shore Keeper and Baizhi now :D
I'll be honest i looked at it, saw that the only thing it gives that other options don't give is 14% atk and thought "hmm do i want to spend almost 80 hard earned pulls for 14% atk" the choice was really hard, i mean think of how much more damage i could be doing with 14 whole percent of atk, i mean it's 14 WHOLE percent.
14% atk buff Plus Rejuvenating glow set gives extra Atk% too so it’s not just 14% lol and she gives ELEMENT % and CRT rate 12% and crt damage % buff she’s CRACKED MY GUYSS!!! And HEALS boyyyyyyy
Is Shorekeeper's S1 a better investment in place of her signature weapon? I'm not sure if we've been shown those effects yet but I don't believe they were mentioned in the video.
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Since this weapon doesn't work on Verina, and I don't like playing Baizhi, I think I'll have to skip on it for now.
Camellya's got the astrites reserved.
I have pretty good luck on my echoes so i think i'll have enough Er
Also I need my Camellya 😌
The thing I would note is that you call Variation more affordable, but that's not necessarily the case. I've rolled several hundred pulls now, but I still don't have a copy. I even tried fishing on a weapon banner where it rated up, but couldn't get it in a few ten pulls. Guaranteeing a 5 star costs a lot, but you can't guarantee a 4 star at all.
@@kyogre-blue idk if its mentioned in the video but the craftable Rectifier#25 has the same amount of ER as variation and could be a placeholder till you eventually snag a variation if you're not going for/cant get sig. Downside is worse effect, no concerto. If you take fallacy 10%ER into account and you can get lucky to get 34ish ER on echo substats you can hit 250 ER with 3* rectifier of voyage too. Then the rectifier25 can replace your voyager r5 on verina or baizhi or whatever you got goin on so maybe not fully wasted xp
@@saintontas same only going for shore keeper
@@BabaYaga0713 Yup, my Verina is using the craftable. It's manageable for sure. I don't think the video is wrong, but I do want to say that Variation has no way to be guaranteed, so even if it's the best option, it's not necessarily possible for everyone.
I have made the joke saying: "Man can't believe they dropped Baizhi's signature with Shorekeeper."
With Shorekeeper's sig, I do actually think that Baizhi would give more overall damage buffs than Verina.
The triple ice teams (Baizhi, Sanhua, Lingyang, Zhezhi) might end up with the best overall damage in the game, especially when Baizhi's S4 or S6 gives a glacio damage boost to the entire team.
With SK's Sig giving the big HP self-buff as well? Her damage might actually be meaningful.
@saintontas
Probably will need testing but improving the damage of the supports is going to help the poor girl Verina rest. That girl has been CARRYING the entire games team building.
@@saintontas bro is straight up COOKIN
😭I was thinking of pulling shorekeeper sign for my Baizhi and give shorekeeper the 4 star option😭
@@serenasmd6001 well you can move the weapon around in tower so they both use it
Short answer:
For F2P, no. it’s better to pull a DPS weapon instead of this one.
For Spenders, go for it, more dmg over all
thanks
wish i saw this before i spent my 10 pull on it
For the luckiest player, go for it , like me got it in pity 17 😆😆
I ended up getting her weapon by just a random 10 pull! 🤩(during 20 pity and using my extra forging tides) AND I HAVEN'T EVEN UNLOCKED THE CHARACTER YET 😂😭
@@玉がかゆい how much pity was used before you pull?
Im sick and tired of everyone saying variation is easy to get.I must be invisible or have the fcking plague cause im UL70, and I still dont have 1.
I hard pitied string master(80), 160 for jinhsi, and 20 on her weapon and 40 pulls on changli and 30 for her weapon. I also did 70 pulls for zhezhi, and then you have all those standard banner pulls we would have gotten.
Im tired of hearing that BS. You all are blessed, and im getting shorekeepers and her weapon.
Have a nice day.
Edit:
Well, the banner is out.... and who could have guessed... I got shorekeeper and her weapon YAY!!!! But I somehow didn't get variation despite doing 30pulls for shorekeeper and 70 for the weapon. I thought fate was gonna give me 1 to spite me, but ig not. Kinda sad ngl.
However, congrats to all shorekeeper enjoyers and to all still summoning, I hope you get a double 5* 💙 . Keep going, and may we all be Camellya enjoyers in the future.
Hey man, thank you for absorbing all of the Ls on behalf of the entire community.
May your standard and off-banner 4-star pulls be blessed.
Bro I feel that too😂 well since I get zezi sign for Encore I give my cosmic ripple to healers lol... Variation really hard to get huh... Dang it I was hoping a rate up in SK weap banner but we get it on jiyan weap banner... Dayum kuro why jiyan get everything I want... Youhou & Variation 🥲 I hate u green guy
Bro, ty for your hard work, thanks to your sacrifice i have two at r5 lol
Variatoon only was on the Jiyan banner ane Will be on that banner again after shorekeper banners, so if You want to pull for Jiyan weapon then You can get variation too but is not guaranteed
I have only one copy of Variation and also skipped getting Verina from the free 5 stars being fully aware of the disadvantages. Now my built Baizhi will be overjoyed with this weapon, so I will give it a try and get the weapon if possible.
Best Wuwa channel, fight me.
Nice, I have a maxed out Variation, and I don't use Baizhi, so I should be able to get Shorekeeper and Chun.
No
@@opbro751 Yes
@@Bakemer94 ok
No,
one of the good - yes
One of the best - no
One of the considerably good one, and that's about it
@@GreyEnfield_CRYSTAL Who's better?
Clear and concise video talking about the pros and cons. Will be on your channel more often from now on!
i want my characters have their signature weapon sooo i stlll pull. .. but thank you for this one still ❤❤❤
This is fair, I wanted Verity's Handle for Xiangli Yao so trust me I get it.
i mean, her rectifier weapon is just meant for her xd
it'll be useful so im pulling it too!
its also guaranteed. NO nonsense 75/25 losing.
Update: I got her and her weapon (now im dealing 50% more dmg with Changli) my peak dmg was 150k and now im reaching 230k+
Really close to hitting 10k congrats in advance man
appreciate the support man
just wanted to say your content probably has the best quality on wuwa videos, your videos are really well made! in contrast to other ccs who just make drama videos, this is gold
You, Sidneymar and Vars II make learning about Wuthering waves enjoyable
i might be a f2p but i need this weapon for shorekeeper for just the design 😆forgive me comrades i have to do this for lore accuracy builds 🙏
Thank you thank you for this video!! Your account is highly underrated!
Im so glad as a f2p I invested all my pulls last minute on Xiangli Yao‘s weapon and at first I got a bad feeling of not investing in shorekeepers weapon but I’m so glad that you confirmed its not good for Verina!! I’m currently building verina and baizi carried me all way in 1.0 1.1 and 1.2 update, now she can rest a little bit 😂😂
Game updating as I watch this...
looks like i was right on time haha
Same:)
🔹I'm 100% pulling for Shorekeeper
🔹Baizhi is my trusty (and only) healer so far
🔹Still didn't get a single Variation
🔹I will never build my Verina
🔹I always pamper my 5-stars with their signature weapons
Easy choice for me, I guess eh.
But I would REALLY like to get Variation for my Baizhi and any future Rectifier support...
Whose forking goat do I have to sacrifice to get a single drop?
Just curious, how come not building Verina?
@@itsPoliswirl Because even if I don't mind Verina in the story, I don't like fighting with children during combat.
My brain being like "This is no place for you, child, go home". I know I'm weird like that and I have no excuse 😅
@@PLBiohazard So no Encore either? My guess is you pull Jiyan at release?
@@HyperOpticalSaint Not Encore... though she's adorable in the story !
Didn't pull for Jiyan either (although the general is pretty cool and I like his EN VA).
In fact, my mind was set on Jinhsi as my first investment. After that, next investment would be the first limited healer 🙂
@@PLBiohazardthat's the most bizarre reason I've ever heard why not to build a character. I didn't want her at first because of her god awful design. But her usefulness outweighs her appearance for me at the end of the day
Arguable 4th point.
'If youre not pulling for shorekeeper, you can turn baizhi into a scuffed 'lorekeeper' and save your pity on camellya instead'
..... because thats what im doin.
pulling shorekeeper's weapon but not shorekeeper is absolutely diabolical
Oh I thought I was crazy when I thought of this. Lmao
@@saintontas tested a bit more. after 'effectively' doubling baizhi's value i regret NOTHING.
Gotta get it just for the drip, if I have to drop some money for Camellya later on I won't even complain lol, still have my double top-ups too since the game has been handing us pulls non-stop.
nice vid. goodluck to all pulling for sk and or her weap. lets have a blast playing 1.3 💓🔥
Going with the 4 Star options. Better save those pulls for a 5 star DPS weapon.
Very good video but here some information that he not mentioned
-Wuwa weapon banners are 100% up rate, no pity bs , sometimes invest in it is way better than new characters that not compatible with your team and play style
- Shorekeeper herself is a universal support which means if you use the logic of a weapon should be useable for multi character than invest more in Shorekeeper herself work out the same, she is useable in multi team
- Her signature weapon is still a buff weapon for any healer support which means it always have longer lifespan in the long meta run compare to multi use dps weapon but get outdated fast in future
I like Baizhi and SK and I don't have a Variation. Sounding like an easy decision.
Same, I don't have Verina. I'm a member of the "No loli club" haha
Is she out? Or do i have to wait another day
@@dongarippo7279I don't think you'll keep your membership for long since you could lose the 50/50 at any time and get verina or encore
@@xbgsheikiii3593 In a few hours
@@xbgsheikiii3593 rn 1 and a half hour, after the maintenance you can pull for her
Tbh... It is a Must Pull and Not a Must Pull at the same time. I would say it is because its a 5* weapon with a bunch of amazing buffs and effects and I'd say its not because R5 Variation is a pretty reliable alternative to this weapon... Personally am not pulling because I WANT CAMELLYA AND HER WEAPON 🗿
R5 Variation, depending on the team, could actually genuinely be better than Shorekeeper's S1 Sig.
Having double the concerto energy generation can mean a lot depending on the other members of the team.
@@saintontasAlso since it's easy to get, most players can save asterites for future banners... I have enough copies for multiple R5 Variations 😅
@@X01_007 I've been secretly wanting Jiyan's sig... and with variation on its banner I might be able to snipe S5 as well.
@@saintontasJiyan's Sig is Meta... Also getting R5 Variation with it would be amazing 🔥
look at dem people flexing their r5 variations when im here struggling to get a dupe. xD
im pulling it for baizhi and save asterites for camellya. if baizhi would be able to do a fraction of the work shorekeeper does with the help of this, thats already a massive win even without shorekeeper herself
I only have 1 variation and I don't want to steal it from Verina, So I will try to get this weapon for the Shorekeeper.
You can share that variation between verina and shorekeeper and it will work just fine
@@whisper3471 Yup, there's almost no universe where you'd play shorekeeper and verina on the same team so it's perfectly fine to have only one copy of variation for your entire tower run.
@@saintontas this but not gonna lie, I'm already getting annoyed of having to swap weapons/echo's whenever i feel like swapping teams so I'm def slowly gonna work towards characters having their own set of stuff on the ones that i build. That being sad, i am a small spender and not f2p as i try to get every character + signature.
@@henqjuhh they are working on loadouts i think for echos
u can max the tower with lvl 1 3 star weapons, the only reason u should ask your self when pulling a weapon.
does the drip fit the waifu.
what are the echoes looking like in those runs though 😅
If You can max the tower with 2 teams and lvl 1-3 Star weapons then whats the need of keeeping pulling any character, dps, sub dps or support or weapons, it does not matter anymore right? Even, why are You keep playing at that point..You pull because You want and because You can, for FUN, even in games lile genshin where end game is a piece of cake and is out there for 4 years and You dont need any character or weapons, those ppl still pull character and weapons because they want just for fun. That point of yours that You don't need that character or weapons is very stupid in a gacha Game because if You think logical like that then, why You Even play those type of games.
@@JeetGameplays thx for writing an essay to repeat my exact point.
yes the tower is easy, no u dont "need" to pull anything.
"You pull because You want and because You can, for FUN"
yes im glad we agree, hence why i said "pull for the drip"
your comprehension skills are impeccable, here have a cookie🍪👍🤣
@@JeetGameplays you just proved his point, his point was to do whatever you want, and you said exactly that but made it longer.
man I can only get like 26 stars.
Imagine not having a Variation /cries in me.
Great video, a lot of others were selling this as a "must pull" weapon but clearly it's little more than an ER stick for most of the roster.
Been running Baizhi in XL/Yinlin team and she fits in the rotation comfortably, and while she's really only buffing Yinlin's damage, the heals seem solid and her field time is very light.
What I'm getting out of this is that it's a must pull! Keep me in your prayers boys, I'm going for both Shorekeeper and her weapon!
The signature weapon aim is to help meet certain stat thresholds. It provides 25% more energy regen than Variation. Shorekeeper is trying to juggle between both Energy Regen and HP. Her healing and attacks scales on HP. If you meet the energy Regen threshold early, you can run more HP% main stat for cost 3 echos. Meaning more dmg/Healing.
Idk why but I feel like someone will pull this weapon, equip it on Encore, record a no-hit run fighting Tactical Hologram: The Crownless Difficulty VI and post it on youtube just out of boredom
Pass, I have R3 Variation.
14% Atk Buff and 20+% ER is not worth the resources for me, im not saying this weapon is bad. What im saying is Variation is soo good, it feels like Kuro did a mistake releasing this weapon. 😂 20+% ER will not cripple your Shorekeeper let alone 14%Atk. She is a healer, all she needs to do is keep my team alive, i can get those buffs from my subDPS if i want to deal Unga Bunga Dmg.
A video that fully explain why this weapon isn't worth pulling. Imagine if they chose to change the attack buff to just using skill. It becomes the best support weapon ever created. All rectifyer user can activate the additional buff. From healer to sub dps. Many players would try to R5 this weapon for value for long term use. A weapon that is a must have on all teams. Increasing your dps potential. It would have made kuro alot of money, wonder why they choose to limit the character usage is wild.
58 seconds... something something... fell off
Ok, I hate this meme, but yours made me laugh a little lol
thank you my guy, you save hundred if not thousand player who think to pull the weapon for verina
I feel like this will def feel like a must pull later in the game when we have more supports
i want e2 but no pulls
Let's go! Baizhi has been my main healer since day 1 so this is an absolute win for me! I don't care about verina
This is a tough one...
Summary
Weapon Pros:
- Allows fast Liberation regeneration which Shorekeeper really needs (Does not really benefit other characters/healers)
- Allows a massive duration of 14% atk buff to all characters (Only applicable to Shorekeeper & Baizhi)
- Potentially good for future healers that heal on skill cast
- Potentially good for future characters that relies heavily on liberation cast.
Weapon Cons:
- Can't be used effectively by most rectifier users in the game (Encore, Verina, Yinlin, Zhezhi)
- Very low basic atk stat.
The biggest thing holding me back from skipping this is bcs of that 14% teamwide atk buff that lasts 30 whole seconds. I've played PGR and their limited premium weapons which debuff enemies' elemental resistance have always been must pulls even more prioritized than dps weapons as it adds more to the teams damage. While Stellar Symphony isn't debuffing enemies like in PGR, it is still the only weapon that provides teamwide buffs and that has very high potential going into future healers in this game. If Kuro makes just one more limited premium sustain character that 1) heals on skill cast and 2) is a rectifier user, this weapon immediately becomes a must pull. Problem is we don't know if that will ever happen especially anytime soon.
This is definitely a different case from XLY signature
XLY's sig only works for him, and that's pretty bad because it's damage based sig
But Shorekeeper's sig is for her as a support, and it will benefit more teams to come even without swapping with verina
Definitely a must pull support item
This is actually something I can get, as I only have Baizhi has my only sustain right now. When I started playing I got bad info on who I should pull for the free 5 star . . . so no Vorina for me. Pluss Shorekeepers supposed synergy with MC unit would be good as they are my main attacker while I am trying to build up Xiangli Yao
As a Baizhi user (I use her more than my Verina lol), this makes me so happy!!! I already was planning to have three teams with Shorekeeper and Baizhi on separate ones, now they can share the weapon!!!
Tbh for completely f2p, or very low spenders, its a big decision, its very good, but also not critical to have since support characters are inherently valuable because of their kit. I will personally get it, and shorekeeper to S2, because i want her for my beloved Chixa and Sanhua, also spectro rover will love her
Variation ruined Stellar Symphony
The downside with Variation is that it's purely a gacha weapon. I have MULTIPLE signature weapons for characters but have not gotten 1 Variation yet. So theoretically, there is a chance that you, like me, could pull for some weapons on the weapon banner, and get Shorekeeper's weapon before Variation. Considering that there is no 75/25 to lose/win on the weapon banner and it's guaranteed to pull the signature weapon, theoretically, that makes Variation RARER than Shorekeeper's signature. I REALLY want to pull for Shorekeeper, but if you don't have any copies of Variation, her signature is actually very close to a "must pull" in this specific case. That, or just don't pull for Shorekeeper at all.
As a Baizhi main this weapon works well for her too (currently using Variation on her). Although I have Verina I’m much more comfortable using Baizhi, also recently just pulled Shorekeeper so it’s a win win!
What if I don't care about any other character and I just want it for shorekeeper?
Then just get it for her. It's your account and your resources. Use them however you want to.
shit go for the s6, swipe your card my guy.
Love you keep delivering
as always youre the best wuwa yt'er
This fr made me entertained, ima sub and follow you home
you have taught me alot ....ive decided to pull shorekeepers weapon so i can use it on yinlin and encore thanks man
most 5 star weps are worth in this game if ur even a light spender since its 100% guaranteed unlike the competition
I agree I’m light spender and the weapon banner is worth spending on
Debating on pulling because this also benefits future support characters that heal with resonance skill
Saving me a lot of Asterite, much obliged.
This analysis is timely. I was wondering whether Shore-keeper's weapon was worth it.
Not enough value imo. If the buff also workednwith veirna then we might be talking. Kinda glad it doesn't tho, need tk save what I can for next patch
yea kinda glad it doesnt work on verina, makes this an easy skip. The buff isnt even that strong either
@@QMS9224 the 14% atk buff is I believe has been calculated on multiple different teams and is calc'd to be on average a 6-7% increase in overall rotation dmg. So yes, agreed. If you don't NEED it to bridge the gap to 250% ER then chances are the hp% buff and the 14% atk are not enough of a reason to pull for most
@@BabaYaga07136-7% increase? Well I’m glad I stopped at 57 rolls pity 😂 now I have a guarantee next weapon in a 10 pulls
the gods have blessed me and gave me my 1st copy of variation 3 pulls into shorekeeper's weapon banner after winning the character in 70 pulls!
Thank you, yeah honestly Shorekeeper should work just fine with a Variation
Getting Shorekeeper signature depends on either you want her pure support healer bot or hybrid healer subdps.
- Pure support: use variation or other alternatives using 2 ER echoes
- Hybrid sub: use Signature Weapon and use 2 Spectro echoes
I'm just gonna pull the weapon just for Shorekeeper. And probably future healer
Considering PGR that the support character are very rare/rarely limited banner.
If we want to wait for the next limited banner support character, it must still be a long time, maybe 1 year from now.
I believe we are pulling it because its goddamm beautiful.
I'll get it, I have savings to get both her and her weapon during the first week, if the 60+ days left to get Camellia and her weapon aren't enough, I'm clearly doing something poorly
It’s not too op to where it’s a must pull but not so bad to where it’s not worth it. Imo if you want it go for it, it’ll provide a lot of value but if you don’t get it you’re fine.
Since am not having Verina, and already got my Baizhi to 80 before getting Shorekeeper. Since there is a need of 2 healers and Buffers, I went for the weapon but just spend 20 pulls on it and got it I was lucky so. Otherwise I don’t think I would have gotten it but no regrets since my Baizhi will be still used and is good build also can just share echoes with Shorekeeper. For me a Win / win
That's a very good argument on why the weapon is not necessary, however... Drip!!!
"Grants a massive buff to hp"
12% hp 🤣
Bro, thats 4k to my already 40298 hp shorekeeper
My take is that,
you can get shorekeeper weapon, and skip shorekeeper IF you have working Baizhi.
Give her weapon to Baizhi, althouh Baizhi concerto regen from this is far from ideal, hopefully can make things works until one get shorekeeper.
Just pull her Variation is good for her u don't need the weapon since she's just support.
So one thing to note is that for Shorekeeper, energy regen is not just about getting her ult up as often as possible. Spoiler below.
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The amount of crit damage and crit rate she gives your team scales off of your energy regen on her. You need at least 250% energy regen to get the max crit rate and damage.
@@Richtofen_- I never said you needed the weapon for that. I have 250% ER on Verina with two ER main stat echos and Variation. I was just saying ER is important on Shorekeeper for more than just getting her ult as quickly as possible.
But if you want to maximize Shorekeeper's healing you may want to dump one or both ER stat echoes for HP% ones. So her weapon would be a massive help in that scenario. But yeah her weapon is more for the whales like Zhezhi's weapon.
all I need to hear is " BiS for Baizhi and Shorekeeper" XD
It do be pretty though
Considering I often forget to switch Variation between characters and now have Shorekeeper, I got her weapon for convenience. I also forget to switch Stringmaster between Encore & Yinlin lol
No need to remember who has Variation most of the time anymore. Will only switch between Baizhi and Shorekeeper.
Nice video, very informative
The last soundtrack used in this video gives me a vibe between genshin and honkai star rail
And after finishing Shorekeeper story, trying to pull Shorekeeper weapon for fun, got it in 20 pulls ;) , still got enough for Camellya and Her weapon
Didn't plan on getting this, but I got it from my f2p pulls with 16 pity. I ain't complaining :)
I have 0 variation copies somehow. My Verina and SC straight up don't have any weapon options. Should I just endure until I get one or go for the SC's signature?
I heard, variation will be on the jian weapon banner. But I just pulled shorekeeper sig cause I have a lot pulls saved, and was forced to do this without variation in stock
I'm not waiting that im getting #25 instead
Wow, thanks for the heads up.
It looks cool, sure I'll pull for it if I get shorekeeper
You mean for those LUCKY enough to have Variation.
BEST WUWA CHANNEL.
I can drop name those WuWa channels that sucks so much, just reading info without in depth explanation.
i had 60 pull max, and couldn't afford her weapon.. but i pulled for her, and she came home with just 40 pulls ^^ i'd like to get her weapon too but. i would be missing on any char i like in the future if i do so.. so i better be happy with my luck on her early arrive. And start saving again.
And yes, her weapon is insane on any healer support really.
I am now infinitely wiser going forward. Thank you so much, Saint Ontas; I now know where and whom to spend my total balance of 15 Astrites on But seriously, damnabbit Kuro, can't you space your incredible banners further apart? We're dying here
I might pull it on her rerun if there arent any immediate characters i wanna get at that but yeah S5 variation is a solid choice for her, lucky for me.
412 ATK?
77% energy Regen
won't justify the lack of attack
Helpful video!
It's a nice weapon, but Variation is decent enough I think. I'll probably get it on a rerun.
I will pull this for the aesthetic alone 🗣️🔥
Considering the fact that all dps 4 star weapons are absolutely dogshit unusable, if you're looking forward to pulling any dps 5 star character in the near future, SK's weapon is an easy skip. Even if you're a heavy spender, it's just not worth it when you can get the same rotation times with Variation
my take away is, its not currently worth it or useful outside of shorekeeper/bazhi or if you like drip for SK. However, i do think given the communities outcry of more support units i would not be surprised if we get one or two more that will hopefully be hp scaling also in the future. even if they come out with better sig weapons for those who have this one now it could be a decent alternative in the future. Thoughts?
i personally just want healers that aren't catalyst....it is pretty boring that SK is just another female, spectro, catalyst healer....like there is not one thing different from verina, and just the element is different to baizhi (which doesn't even matter anyway).
I love baizhi and shorekepeer. I use but don’t care for verina, but I would rather get Jinan’s weapon for my calculator but even then I’m at 30 pity and not guaranteed. I went to 75 pity for yo-yos weapon. I will definitely get it in the future.
weapon banner is always guaranteed it’s just a matter of getting it early
@@ushiima I know.
@@rms.ziggler7344 huh then why did u say ur not guaranteed
I got the weapon twice in the ten pull in the weapon banner, even tho I did not expect to even get the weapon lmaoo cause I was aiming for the 4 star energy recharge weapon for ShoreKeeper. Looks like I got a new weapon for both Shore Keeper and Baizhi now :D
Pulled the weapon because of its design then got 2 of them in one 10pull.
WuWa ruined 5-Star support Rectifiers
I won my first 50/50 in WuWa for Shorekeeper. Got her weapon because she buffed the shit out of my Changli. Still got like 6k Asterites after.
I'm a baizhi user so I know what I must do❤
I'll be honest i looked at it, saw that the only thing it gives that other options don't give is 14% atk and thought "hmm do i want to spend almost 80 hard earned pulls for 14% atk" the choice was really hard, i mean think of how much more damage i could be doing with 14 whole percent of atk, i mean it's 14 WHOLE percent.
It works just fine with Verina because of the regen.
14% atk buff Plus Rejuvenating glow set gives extra Atk% too so it’s not just 14% lol and she gives ELEMENT % and CRT rate 12% and crt damage % buff she’s CRACKED MY GUYSS!!! And HEALS boyyyyyyy
Its only atk btw
@@ravemongaming_reborn the weapon Ik “but not her full kit dude”
Should I get Shorekeeper's s1 or weapon? I only have 1 R1 variation.
weapon
I have been dissuaded not to pull. I’ll save my astrite for Camellya instead and just use variation
Is Shorekeeper's S1 a better investment in place of her signature weapon? I'm not sure if we've been shown those effects yet but I don't believe they were mentioned in the video.
Yes