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  • True Detective Night Country Episode 4 Breakdown. In-depth recap and review for True Detective Season 4 - S04E04 “Part 4” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 ua-cam.com/users/petepeppers...
    In the fourth episode of the fourth season of True Detective, Police Chief Liz Danvers (Jodie Foster) and Evangeline Navarro (Kali Reis) try to make progress on the case before it's taken away from them.
    S4.E4
    Part 4
    Navarro takes Julia to a local facility when her mental health issues resurface, promising improvement. Danvers and Navarro locate where Annie was killed. Danvers severely punishes Leah for protesting.
    Written By: Issa López & Namsi Khan
    Directed By: Issa López
    Episode aired Jan 28, 2024
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    Logline: When the long winter night falls in Ennis, Alaska, the eight men who operate the Tsalal Arctic Research Station vanish without a trace. To solve the case, Detectives Liz Danvers (Foster) and Evangeline Navarro (Reis) will have to confront the darkness they carry in themselves, and dig into the haunted truths that lie buried under the eternal ice.
    Cast: Jodie Foster, Kali Reis, Finn Bennett, Fiona Shaw, with Christopher Eccleston, Isabella Star LaBlanc, and John Hawkes. Guest stars: Anna Lambe, Aka Niviâna, June Thiele, Diane Benson, and Joel D. Montgrand.
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  • @MA1.5
    @MA1.5 4 місяці тому +103

    I think Connelly sniffed the water bottle to make sure it wasn’t booze

    • @geekishgir
      @geekishgir 4 місяці тому +7

      agree, was just about to type the same. He knows Liz that well!

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +4

      Yup, that's what I figured, too!

    • @brendanlynch3439
      @brendanlynch3439 4 місяці тому +17

      I think it's because he knows something about the bad water, probably the reason the plant died and he's sniffing to check the smell of the water

    • @roodwarrior
      @roodwarrior 4 місяці тому +6

      @@brendanlynch3439 that was my takeaway too... no authority figures (and politicians like Connelly) want to admit out loud that the mine is toxic, but they all know it to be true

    • @geekishgir
      @geekishgir 4 місяці тому +3

      @@brendanlynch3439 I've heard others say that too but I still think it is he's checking for alcohol. That was Liz's water bottle, and she'd been oblivious to the bad water complaint. But now she is aware. Doubt she would drink the water if it smelled bad enough to be detected. Connelly knows she is a drinker, first thing he asks is if she is drunk when she shows up

  • @raradis
    @raradis 4 місяці тому +48

    To be honest dirty water will still smell like water. I'm 99% the chief is smelling to see if it's alcohol.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +4

      That's a possibility. The episode made it seem like Liz doesn't drink much, maybe she used to drink too much? It's also interesting that she's not concerned with driving drunk considering it was hinted that drunk driving was involved in Jake and Holden's deaths.

    • @raradis
      @raradis 4 місяці тому +1

      @@PetePeppers1 my guess is that her driving while drunk is something she HAS to do, but she definitely hates everyone who is doing it.

  • @SSGTStryker
    @SSGTStryker 4 місяці тому +58

    Totally should have been an 8 episode format. That way it would’ve allowed some of the characters to be explored more and the plot to breathe or develop more.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 4 місяці тому +5

      The problem is it's 80% family drama fillers and 20% mystery. If you add more episodes it'll just be wasted on more fillers.

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +5

      I agree. Getting to spend more time with characters is the best thing about TV series.

  • @quikslver660
    @quikslver660 4 місяці тому +16

    Respectfully, I think the point that’s being missed is this is essentially an outpost in the furthest reaches of an otherwise unregulated, uncontrolled, undersupervised, resource-dependent community at the whim of its corporate provider. Do enough research and understand the power that mining companies have over their land is pretty much absolute. (And yes, patrolled by the coast guard)
    I grew up in rural America. Cops are human and loyal to their friends, their immediate family, and whomever is paying.
    Checking into a “facility” near this town ain’t the same as checking in anywhere else. Ive read a lot of reviews about how “in America this could never happen” and it only deepens my conviction that, 1. People don’t truly understand the country they live in, and 2. People think the rules are the same regardless of where you are.
    Not to mention the colonizing factor, or fun fact: you can fit 4 California’s into Alaska.

    • @bunnerkins
      @bunnerkins 4 місяці тому +1

      THANK YOU! You articulated what I couldn't.

    • @HoneybeeAwning
      @HoneybeeAwning 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes you said it all!!!

  • @paddymcgrath9721
    @paddymcgrath9721 4 місяці тому +8

    I played a lot of football and I believe what he was doing with her hand was relocating a dislocated finger or thumb. It is typical to distract the patient so they don't tense up and resist the painful tug. I never noticed him be anything more than supportive given the poor treatment he gets in return I'm surprised he's still hopeful. Feigning kneeling to propose was a comical distraction I found and good bed side manner on his part. I'm holding out for him as a landing place for her when the smoke settles. I know hopeless romantic lol.

    • @ruthbennett7563
      @ruthbennett7563 4 місяці тому

      He’s a jewel. I hope she sees it before it’s too late.
      … also that she didn’t curse him by leaving the stone in his kitchen.

  • @mh3594
    @mh3594 4 місяці тому +7

    Damn Pete’s final breakdown always captures exactly how I felt about whatever he’s recapping.

    • @BillyJoeJimBob8
      @BillyJoeJimBob8 4 місяці тому +2

      Totally agree! Pete's analysis is always a "must watch" to get a better and fuller understanding of what one just watched and there's always something that I totally missed.
      I really enjoy those "Oh, that's what that was about!" moments that happen when Pete lays things out!!!

  • @gregfulton2539
    @gregfulton2539 4 місяці тому +7

    As Otis noted, we're all in night country now. An episode contrasting the cops' inner turmoil vs duty, and Jodie channeling Starling searching alone for a suspect in creepy rooms.

  • @NYCHotDogStands
    @NYCHotDogStands 4 місяці тому +22

    Connelly only showed up when Danvers sends him the video. Somethings fishy..

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +1

      I wondered if that was why he showed up too.

  • @laurareeves9754
    @laurareeves9754 4 місяці тому +6

    Your breakdowns are the best. 6 episodes does seem like a mistake if they want all these side characters and backstories.

    • @sabineb.5616
      @sabineb.5616 4 місяці тому +2

      I agree! I kind of enjoy the show, but I don't believe anymore that we will get a good wrap up of all plotlines in this season. There are too many narratives! I don't understand why this wasn't trimmed down. And I think that we need to accept that the ghosts are real.

  • @nicfmartin
    @nicfmartin 4 місяці тому +21

    The previous episode was a bit better. I also didn’t understand how Navarro’s sister was found and identified so quickly in the dark on Christmas Day.

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +1

      Right! Makes zero sense!

    • @raradis
      @raradis 4 місяці тому +2

      It guess she was seen by the cost guard entering the ocean..

    • @PerfectoKiss
      @PerfectoKiss 4 місяці тому +4

      Lazy writing

    • @GregorySnipe
      @GregorySnipe 4 місяці тому +7

      Who cares? This is the silliest complaint.

    • @jesot
      @jesot 4 місяці тому +4

      One of a number of eyeroll moments this episode.
      The actors and backdrop are fantastic, but the writing does a lot of janky shit that weighs the show down.

  • @brettbaratheon9776
    @brettbaratheon9776 4 місяці тому +5

    Brother, I hate how UA-cam buries subscribers. I forgot how awesome you are. It has been a long time since you came across my feed. Glad to be back. So good.

    • @Mogorman87
      @Mogorman87 4 місяці тому +1

      Ever hear of the search option? Pete ain’t hard to find.

    • @brettbaratheon9776
      @brettbaratheon9776 4 місяці тому

      @@Mogorman87 ever heard of- I found them once, subscribed, and then never saw them again and forgot

    • @brettbaratheon9776
      @brettbaratheon9776 4 місяці тому

      My reply got deleted apparently, by UA-cam.

  • @purpleblah2
    @purpleblah2 4 місяці тому +7

    I thought the sniffing the water bottle was either him going "Is this water or alcohol?" or checking to see if the water wasn't really old and stale. I thought the whole thing was a little power play, like condescendingly tidying her office and watering her plant because he thinks she's a mess and can't take care of himself. It was weird to have a potted plant in an office in Alaska, where it wouldn't be able to survive without central heating, so it'd made sense that it was shriveled and dry due to neglect.

  • @jmchez
    @jmchez 4 місяці тому +5

    I'm getting a feeling that this episode highlited one character who is prone to violence, has a history of mental disorders in the family and is now experiencing hallucinations (none of that stuff is really supernatural). It's like when Agatha Christie strung her audience along , only to reveal that the killer was a LEO.

  • @RealBradMiller
    @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +11

    Can't wait to see how this wraps up. I believe the fifth episode is airing this Friday, due to the Super Bowl.

    • @thisisbrad
      @thisisbrad 4 місяці тому

      Ep. 5 airs Superbowl Sunday Feb. 11th and Ep. 6 airs two weeks later on Feb. 25th (idk why)
      It might still release early, but those are the listed dates on iMDB.

    • @dashingdreww1185
      @dashingdreww1185 4 місяці тому

      Nah at the end of the episode it said the next episode is gonna release this Friday

  • @zachhoff9876
    @zachhoff9876 4 місяці тому +4

    Great coverage Pete! As always.

  • @pattip2639
    @pattip2639 4 місяці тому +3

    That was a good catch about Connely watering that plant and smelling the water! My mind read that as he was pouring a drink from a flask! 😂 with all of the other drinking in this episode, I thought he was too!

  • @deeobrien5417
    @deeobrien5417 4 місяці тому +1

    Eeee having been looking forward to your breakdown all week! Woo! X

  • @geekishgir
    @geekishgir 4 місяці тому +4

    Excellent review as always!

  • @alexandrasandu3947
    @alexandrasandu3947 4 місяці тому +12

    08:01 Didn't they hire Guy Pearce in Mare of Easttown for "no reason". I'm not saying that's the case here, just that it's possible 🤓

    • @taya12020
      @taya12020 4 місяці тому +2

      Exactly what I was gonna say. It could just be them wanting a familiar face.

    • @jmchez
      @jmchez 4 місяці тому

      A high profila actress is not going to do a sex scene with Joe Schmo. LOL!

    • @Sanne78
      @Sanne78 4 місяці тому +2

      Fiona Shaw is also a heavy weight so maybe they had the budget for several "throw away" characters 😅

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, it is HBO so that's possible. Guy Pearce really wasn't involved with much of what happened on Mare.

  • @actrue9712
    @actrue9712 4 місяці тому +4

    What causes burned corneas? And why haven’t they taken Blair in for matching the finger prints or lack there of AT THE CRIME SCENE??

  • @Jamaine678
    @Jamaine678 4 місяці тому +4

    Who throws away a whole turkey

    • @marcyc1695
      @marcyc1695 4 місяці тому +1

      Especially with those arctic prices

  • @MrTylerStricker
    @MrTylerStricker 4 місяці тому

    We were highly impressed with the amount of Twin Peaks vibes/synchronicity emanating from this season of True Detective...Jau-Deh is pleased.

  • @paddymcgrath9721
    @paddymcgrath9721 4 місяці тому +2

    Its funny you said that about the music Pete as I and my son are life long advocates of electronica and throughout the show we had commented that we found it good as it set the mood. I felt it added to the mystique and drama but I suppose its a matter of taste.

  • @filmunion8194
    @filmunion8194 4 місяці тому +6

    0:47 the Ninth Doctor

  • @sharonmontano4924
    @sharonmontano4924 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree the music is distracting and seems to scream “ look at me! I’m so hip!” 😂

  • @kevinmoore4237
    @kevinmoore4237 4 місяці тому

    Great review

  • @claudiogallucci563
    @claudiogallucci563 4 місяці тому +2

    Greatvreview like always pete ...

  • @hpw101
    @hpw101 4 місяці тому +36

    At a voluntary mental health facility, you can’t just walk out once you’re admitted. It’s a HUGE liability to the facility. There’s a whole discharge process.
    They didn’t need to include the mental health place at all. When she calls her cop sister, just tell her then that she’s ending it all (instead of cop sister coming to meet her). That way, it makes sense that she would be found. Cop races to stop her but she’s too late, and then searches the area and finds her body.
    As it stands, how did the coast guard ID her and call her sister? She was naked. She’s a Jane Doe. How did they even find her within hours in the first place in pitch black arctic waters?

    • @Looshington
      @Looshington 4 місяці тому +5

      Fr that was so annoying they just created a massive plot hole by adding in something completely unbelievable and factually incoherent.

    • @jinevra117
      @jinevra117 4 місяці тому +5

      Coast guard probably recognized her blue hair

    • @Plexippuspetersi92
      @Plexippuspetersi92 4 місяці тому +15

      It's a tiny town. The local coast guard stationed there probably knew her.

    • @hpw101
      @hpw101 4 місяці тому +5

      @@jinevra117 ok maybe. But how in the world would they find her in arctic waters at night?

    • @hpw101
      @hpw101 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Plexippuspetersi92 ok maybe. But how in the world would they find her in arctic waters at night? Dumb luck?

  • @bc4923
    @bc4923 4 місяці тому

    Definitely agree. 8 episodes feels like a better format. Also, I feel TD will tow the line in the finale - without committing to the supernatural element as the main perp. I hope they have enough guts not to do that. But something tells me polluted water affects each individually differently and combined with an existing mental health issue, heightens hallucination symptoms.

  • @Luis-bz4go
    @Luis-bz4go 4 місяці тому +10

    Connelly sniffed the water bottle to see if its contaminated. He is in on the mine polluting the water supply

  • @NatasaVerg
    @NatasaVerg 4 місяці тому +2

    What about Rose/ Navarro conversation in the 1st episode about the spiral symbol? Clearly Rose knows something about it and Navarro never asks again to learn more!

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому

      What if Navarro’s been dead the who,e time and Rose is supernatural. It would explain the flashbacks to the attack and why no one else see,s to care about Rose

  • @Kzx828
    @Kzx828 4 місяці тому +2

    It's the six episode formula, especially for not having a second season!

  • @AnthonyHarper1200
    @AnthonyHarper1200 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Pete

  • @simplegenericname
    @simplegenericname 4 місяці тому +17

    Rose role is very suspicious, the supper for xmas looked very cultish

    • @actrue9712
      @actrue9712 4 місяці тому +2

      Maybe she sees more than just Travis’s cooking for more ghosts?

    • @Johnnyrocks34
      @Johnnyrocks34 4 місяці тому +1

      And she found bodies! Very sus

    • @simplegenericname
      @simplegenericname 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dianegreyson8787 also, Navarro wasn't sure about Rose's last name, it might be Tutle

    • @actrue9712
      @actrue9712 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dianegreyson8787 maybe she can’t see rose only Navarro can

    • @actrue9712
      @actrue9712 4 місяці тому

      @@dianegreyson8787 true true.

  • @deeobrien5417
    @deeobrien5417 4 місяці тому +2

    Oh Pete just so you know, Issa Lopez confirmed True detective Episode 5 is on this Friday 9/2/23 apparently on account of the Super Bowl on Sunday so at least we won’t miss a week ❤woot!

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I saw that. Thanks for posting it though.

    • @deeobrien5417
      @deeobrien5417 4 місяці тому

      @@PetePeppers1 Ah that’s great, I thought you probably have but on the offchance! Didn’t they do something similar with For All Mankind? Anyway I’m always delighted when your Videos come up and can’t wait for the next episode and you next vid! You’re crushing i! ☺️

  • @jasonw.9136
    @jasonw.9136 3 місяці тому

    Nice thxs

  • @-C.S.R
    @-C.S.R 4 місяці тому +1

    I feel like it could've taken two episodes to get we're at right now! They're really dragging it along.

  • @ulfingvar1
    @ulfingvar1 4 місяці тому +5

    Brilliant episode. Just hope the last two episodes don't feel too forced..

  • @Justin_253
    @Justin_253 4 місяці тому

    100% he's checking to see if it's alcohol and Liz had a drinking problem after her husband and son died.

  • @littlebuddyFilms
    @littlebuddyFilms 4 місяці тому

    The spiral on the small rock looked like the number 6.

  • @plantlife-music8978
    @plantlife-music8978 4 місяці тому +4

    i think the bartender is involved - he kept the swirl rock & it was mentioned later that it was lost

    • @D.BlueGreen
      @D.BlueGreen 4 місяці тому

      He set it down by the sink when she showed it to him. I don't think he kept it. She was distracted, in pain and just left it behind.

    • @plantlife-music8978
      @plantlife-music8978 4 місяці тому

      @@D.BlueGreen i still think it's him - could be wrong!

  • @iqh2
    @iqh2 4 місяці тому +1

    on the doors to Olivier's house, there was, apparently, written hwdp which, surprisingly, is polish for acab

    • @TheDallas62
      @TheDallas62 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, Polish people make up 5% of entire Iceland's population where the show was shot. It's spelled CHWDP and it the meaning is much closer to fuck the police. Literally means "a dick up police's ass"

  • @WilliamJames48
    @WilliamJames48 4 місяці тому +1

    He didn't just get Catfished, he got Alaska Catfished which stings.. lil bit

  • @themetalchica
    @themetalchica 4 місяці тому +1

    Rose will end up being a Tuttle, hence her name change and why she left "the big city," etc.

  • @stupidminotaur9735
    @stupidminotaur9735 4 місяці тому +6

    Otitis could be the ghost the supply Guy saw. E1

    • @raradis
      @raradis 4 місяці тому +1

      Yup, that sounds legit.

    • @D.BlueGreen
      @D.BlueGreen 4 місяці тому

      But he's blind

    • @stupidminotaur9735
      @stupidminotaur9735 4 місяці тому +1

      @@D.BlueGreen um wat no, 1. ottis has 1 eye working. 2. the supply guy has both eyes working

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому

      It's possible but Clark had the parka on the night everything went down. Some time passed before the delivery guy showed up though, there was the whole thing with the clothes in the washer smelling bad and the mayonnaise turning on the sandwich.

    • @stupidminotaur9735
      @stupidminotaur9735 4 місяці тому

      @@PetePeppers1 ottis is way smaller than clark, the ghost in ep1 was small, i first thought it was a women/the killed women, but now im thinking ottis maybe going to get his fix? or to steal stuff to sell. or he was attracted to the um magnets/magic field thing.

  • @elikerr785
    @elikerr785 4 місяці тому +2

    I think Rose is sus... I don't know what her deal is but something is up with her. I wish we were getting 8 episodes for sure. I am not one to come up with many theories, so I'm just rolling with things. I'm pretty sure Issa Lopez directed the movie Tigers Are Not Afraid, which had supernatural themes so I think this could go in a supernatural direction.

    • @sabineb.5616
      @sabineb.5616 4 місяці тому

      Yes, we need to accept that some of the supernatural stuff will not be explained rationally. I don't know, yet, how that will affect the overall mystery. I would have prefered if a detective tv-show would've been grounded in reality.
      I don't think that Rose is a suspect. But I think that she is not real. She only communicated with Navarro. We have never seen Rose with another person. She might be Navarro's imaginary friend 😊

  • @clutch2827
    @clutch2827 4 місяці тому +4

    Six episodes is fine. Less to be bored to. He sniffed the bottle to make sure it wasn't alcohol.

  • @johnkeviljr9625
    @johnkeviljr9625 4 місяці тому +1

    Why is the little boys image shown in reverse? His pajamas read reverse and the bears' eye is in reverse.

  • @RickSmith-yl5fp
    @RickSmith-yl5fp 4 місяці тому +1

    Does anyone remember a mentioning of Connelly and Danvers affair being sun ‘19 years’ in the first episode.. along with the comment of Danvers cheating with Kate’s husband.. we’re Kate and Connelly together at one point in the past!?!?

  • @Matisaro
    @Matisaro 4 місяці тому +1

    Seeing ghosts? For sure? Bleeding ear could be from her ass kicking earlier giving her a brain bleed which is causing her to hallucinate.

  • @Wobez
    @Wobez 4 місяці тому

    I think Liz is the killer. Hank had evidence on her and was building a case but is distracted by his Russian love which is actually Liz. She got Peter to steal the evidence for her from his dads.

  • @stargazeypi5454
    @stargazeypi5454 4 місяці тому +1

    Rose is a ghost.

  • @sethmorales1519
    @sethmorales1519 4 місяці тому +2

    Conley was smelling the water because it’s so fucked up

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому

      That seems to be the most popular idea. That or he thought she was drinking.

  • @tealelston
    @tealelston 4 місяці тому

    I honestly had no idea that was Christopher Eccleston until you mentioned his name, I remember him being much slender/scrawny than he is in this show.

  • @Johnnyrocks34
    @Johnnyrocks34 4 місяці тому +1

    Cop is strange guy. Mail order bride? He killed somebody! Def bad

  • @charleshamilton9274
    @charleshamilton9274 4 місяці тому +1

    “…a healthy drug habit.” Yikes.

  • @originallondon7994
    @originallondon7994 4 місяці тому

    Captain Carcosa ?

  • @sinatraskitten
    @sinatraskitten 4 місяці тому +5

    I’m pretty sure he smelled the contents of the water bottle because she’s a known alcoholic and he was making sure it wasn’t alcohol

  • @JuliaHernandezRuza
    @JuliaHernandezRuza 4 місяці тому +3

    The fact that Julia takes her clothes off and folds them neatly suggests that the scientists were doing the same thing, ending their lives by walking into the cold/sea naked, but something got in their way and killed them by frightening them somehow. Maybe folding the clothes is a ritual before ending their own lives related to Sedna, given that Julia had the tattoos and was clearly more identified with that part of her culture.

  • @benjamingirard1984
    @benjamingirard1984 4 місяці тому

    I still like the show very much but I'm also starting to worry that 6 episodes won't be enough. The first two were spectacular imho, but then 3-4 were just ''good''. Not bad by any means, because this season is still better than a lot of crap on streaming these days, but I think they went a bit too much with the mystery box route so far and with only 6 episodes, I'm not sure how they will wrap everything in a cohesive manner that won't feel rushed. Unless the last two are like 1h15 each or something. My guess is that, like in season 1 when Rust saw space in the shed, 99% of the mysteries will be grounded in reality and 1% will still be left opened to interpretation.

  • @guelbergoes
    @guelbergoes 4 місяці тому

    in my opinion, Evangeline gets closed to Qavvik in the first place as a person of interest and she uses him trying to figure it out.

  • @SSGTStryker
    @SSGTStryker 4 місяці тому +1

    Like Season 1, I don’t think the supernatural will ever be explained. As far as Oliver, I think he’s the “one (victim) that got away.” As far as Ted Connelly, idk, he could be on the take for the mining company.

  • @elikerr785
    @elikerr785 4 місяці тому

    Otis is using Heroin, so he's probably trying to drown out whatever trauma he's experienced. It wouldn't make him hallucinate or anything.

    • @elikerr785
      @elikerr785 4 місяці тому

      @@dianegreyson8787 It is heroin.

    • @elikerr785
      @elikerr785 4 місяці тому

      @@dianegreyson8787 He had it with his needles. And this week, when he's in the hospital in withdrawal, Danvers tells him she can't get him heroin. Maybe he's taking something else too, but it seems like every detail is important.

  • @teddnagurski5583
    @teddnagurski5583 4 місяці тому +2

    How would Otis get heroine in such a remote part of Alaska?

  • @smittyjjensin558
    @smittyjjensin558 4 місяці тому +17

    My biggest gripe with this season is that they only have 6 episodes but it seems that the case is moving at a snails pace. There are two episodes left and all we know is that everyone involved has something to do with the cult spiral. Additionally, allof the hallucinations and out of context flashbacks are becoming repetitive and annoying.

    • @thegreenhenryshow8809
      @thegreenhenryshow8809 4 місяці тому +2

      And no real clear suspects.

    • @eaglekeeper7737
      @eaglekeeper7737 4 місяці тому +3

      Super slow . The show has really gotten away from the original premise.

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 4 місяці тому

      The first 2 episodes were very very promising. And then suddenly it stopped.
      And these nasty female detectives... who cares.

    • @TheRealBatCave
      @TheRealBatCave 4 місяці тому

      This season seems like a welfare version of season 1, best way 2 describe it

  • @oxesmy2
    @oxesmy2 4 місяці тому +4

    In case this turns out to be true:: SPOILERS AHEAD::
    I found a theory on reddit which I basically think is the real deal and possibly can ruin the ending for you but here it goes: The killer is the goddess SEDNA, who in turn is actually one of Evangeline's personalities, This is why only she is seen interacting with Rose, with "ghosts" and other stuff. The overall crazy stuff people see and do has more to do with the pollution of the mine or even some virus or bacteria Tsalal found in the ice, but the TRUE KILLER is Navarro, this is also why all "ghosts" point to her (SEDNA)

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +2

      Love this theory, but I believe another officer mentioned Rose. Though the Christmas dinner scene makes me think otherwise! It was so weird... Five candles... There was a poem about five candles dealing with grief, iirc.

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +5

      " we light these five candles in honor of you, we light one for our grief, one for our courage, one for our memories, one for our love, and one for our hope"
      😮😢

    • @lamo1724
      @lamo1724 4 місяці тому +1

      And the music choices - although Pete wasn't a fan - the lyrics point to someone left alone remembering all those loved ones that died. Kind of links in to the subtler themes of the episode xxx

    • @oxesmy2
      @oxesmy2 4 місяці тому

      @@RealBradMiller Maybe Navarro killed her mother, too.

  • @_VICK_
    @_VICK_ 4 місяці тому +2

    The ghost girl points like Navarros mom did. So did the guy in the hospital, he pointed to.

  • @NovemberChristine
    @NovemberChristine 4 місяці тому +5

    Anyone else notice Navarro is the only one that sees/talks to Rose? (Before you say she told the cops about the dead scientists, we never actually see her do that)

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +3

      Someone else mentions Rose in episode one, iirc. One of the officers.

    • @angeltangle
      @angeltangle 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@RealBradMillerwas going to say the exact same thing, one of the cops says she called them.

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 4 місяці тому +2

      Wrong observation.

  • @sozemania
    @sozemania 4 місяці тому +6

    I think the Kid police officer is part of the Organization

  • @pooglemcbots1551
    @pooglemcbots1551 4 місяці тому

    is sedna lovecraft?

    • @PetePeppers1
      @PetePeppers1  4 місяці тому +1

      No, Inuit mythology.

    • @pooglemcbots1551
      @pooglemcbots1551 4 місяці тому

      because most season 1, and this season are lovecraft related@@PetePeppers1

  • @paddymcgrath9721
    @paddymcgrath9721 4 місяці тому +7

    Well it turned out my guess last week that Hank's new bride was a financial scammer was correct, you'd think a cop wouldn't be so naïve.

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 4 місяці тому +2

      I think that points to him not being evil, just incompetent. I hope it is Rose or Danvers, just effing with him.

    • @susivarga7303
      @susivarga7303 4 місяці тому

      ​@@RealBradMilleryou are hoping for nastiness? Why?

    • @ArcticChonk
      @ArcticChonk 4 місяці тому

      Love (or the prospects of love) can turn anyone into an idiot. But yeah, it was a bit much for a cop to fall for that scam.

  • @esskay1513
    @esskay1513 4 місяці тому

    Spoiler theory… I reckon Navarro did it

  • @rodesvilobo8670
    @rodesvilobo8670 4 місяці тому +1

    Question about for all mankind..is there an I.S.S. in that universe?

  • @naujelbr
    @naujelbr 4 місяці тому +2

    This show isn't working. I don't know what the crime is here. I don't know what they're even investigating. Far too many threads are opened that are then left hanging in the wind. This is a redux of season 2 in which basic principles of storytelling are forgotten and no amount of good acting can save it.

  • @ceciliaSF-TX
    @ceciliaSF-TX 4 місяці тому +4

    Navarro may have mental health issues that are slow in emerging. But, last episode, she slips on the ice & hits her, then hallucinates. This episode, she gets the sh*t kicked out of her, including some punches to her head. She may have a concussion or something. Of course, it’s a murder mystery, which means ANYONE can be the murderer and maybe have two things going on at the same time. I hope Navarro is not the killer, but she MAY have killed her mother to protect herself & baby girl. Now, that guilt is truly messing with her.
    Yup, it is a lot to unpack in 6 episodes.

    • @jmchez
      @jmchez 4 місяці тому

      Ditto. Hallucinates and is prone to violence. Norman Bates call your agent.

    • @ceciliaSF-TX
      @ceciliaSF-TX 4 місяці тому +1

      @@jmchez
      Norman Bates returned my call, but didn’t stay on topic. 😳

  • @BananaJoe12345
    @BananaJoe12345 4 місяці тому +3

    Right now there only seems to be 2 possibilities. Supernatural things are happening or it's a mental illness, which is kind of gross.

    • @ezrasprenger2253
      @ezrasprenger2253 4 місяці тому +1

      But is it mental illness or psychosis brought on by water contamination? There are so many variables in this series. I agreed the 6 episodes are too few for this attempt at storytelling.

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому

      @@ezrasprenger2253 If it isn’t supernatural, this season will be regarded as worse than season 2 because of the bait and switch.

  • @wrestledeep
    @wrestledeep 4 місяці тому +1

    Something is off with the Rose character. Her whole demeanor has suddenly changed from wise hippy mystic to gown-wearing educated scholar?? btw who is she making all of that food for? it doesn't make any sense. Has she been in any scenes with anyone besides Officer Navarro?? very sketchy🤔

  • @sheilamcintosh5835
    @sheilamcintosh5835 4 місяці тому +1

    Mmm don’t cast Christopher Eccleston unless you make good use of him…and I say don’t cast Fiona Shaw (as Rose or whatever her name turns out to be) a renowned classical actor unless you make good use of her.
    This season isn’t very well written and I have also reluctantly come to the conclusion that Kali Reis is miscast as Navarro. It’s the major role but I don’t think she has an expressive face and I find her cheek piercings very distracting.

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому

      She was much better in Andor. He was much better in Doctor Who.

  • @mettlex2621
    @mettlex2621 4 місяці тому +2

    Yes, you nailed it about the music. It's not nearly as good as they want it to be. In this episode it was out of place.

  • @juniorjay001
    @juniorjay001 4 місяці тому

    I think that was the wrong clip at the beginning. Your into is non sequitur like that lol

  • @DerekNewtonKeswick
    @DerekNewtonKeswick 4 місяці тому +1

    Not sure if I can be arsed sticking with True Detective Night Country. It’s typical of what has become the norm of modern writing i.e. it’s shit. The first series had a compelling story and two complicated, but likeable, lead characters. This season has unlikeable characters and a story that is trying to hard to be ‘spooky’ but I bet it’s going to end in a very unsatisfactory way.

    • @bunnerkins
      @bunnerkins 4 місяці тому +1

      What part of the adulterer, jail bait chasing, wife abuser from season 1 did you find likeable? It's a lot easier to like characters with the exact same flaws when they are men I guess.

    • @DerekNewtonKeswick
      @DerekNewtonKeswick 4 місяці тому

      @@bunnerkins I can see your point. Although I would argue that Rust and Marty are likeable/charismatic characters and we discover their many flaws as the story goes along. Ultimately they both prove themselves to be true detectives in the end. By facing the ultimate evil they both receive a form of redemption. In Night Country they’ve just made them both miserable, grumpy and unlikeable. It’s weak writing.

    • @bunnerkins
      @bunnerkins 4 місяці тому

      @@DerekNewtonKeswick The show isn't even fucking over mate. At least give them the same consideration you are giving Rust and Marty - let's see where Night Country takes us, "in the end".

  • @juanmoorethyme3119
    @juanmoorethyme3119 4 місяці тому +4

    This might be the worst show I have ever seen. how people are still watching this is beyond me.

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому

      Sunk cost. I don’t expect it to end well, but at this point why not watch the car crash.

  • @user-qi9sw6fm3t
    @user-qi9sw6fm3t 4 місяці тому +5

    I really need to know that the first episode where that dude was shaking in his boots about “she is awake” and her tongue on the damn floor gets solved. It’s like it was completely vanished from the story line!!! Who in the hell gathered the men into a naked fear statue???

  • @2011Jayceon
    @2011Jayceon 4 місяці тому +3

    My main suspect: Adam and his wife.
    One person we don't know too much about is Adam Bryce. He definitely seems like a guy who knows a thing or two about more than geology....
    If you look at the scene in Part 2 where he points to the whiteboard you can see the spiral represented as Earths core structure.
    -Yellow (The Yellow King in the middle)
    -Orange
    -Black
    -Blue (black can be seen as a barrier from Orange to Blue)
    Also, it clearly looks like "Yellow" is inside Adam Bryce's mind with INNER pointing directly to his temple. And he's wearing an orange sweater.
    In Part 4, he's wearing a blue sweater - indicating two sides of him. We have only seen these two sides. Another weird part is him bumping his head in the ceiling light.. if he sits there all the time why not move the desk so he doesn't have to hit his head everytime he gets up?

    • @Looshington
      @Looshington 4 місяці тому

      👏🏼👏🏼

    • @user-xu4xj2cd2j
      @user-xu4xj2cd2j 4 місяці тому +1

      Don't over think it

    • @2011Jayceon
      @2011Jayceon 4 місяці тому

      @@user-xu4xj2cd2j That’s exactly what we should be doing with this show.

  • @TheRealBatCave
    @TheRealBatCave 4 місяці тому +4

    I dunno, I feel nothing really happened, I feels like they r trying to force feed us into relating to the characters, leaning wayyyy 2 hard 2 season 1, I just seems like a cheap photocopy of rust chole. I mean the spiral cult, the loss of thier kids, the seeing things, the Tuttles, Travis Chole....etc etc I just feel it's gona be a half assed ending with much not even explained. I bet they will cancel the series after this season bombs

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому

      No reason to cancel it. You can always come back in three years and try again. The guys who did The Wire and Treme can write a drawn out detective show if HBO hasn’t burnt their bridges with them.

  • @Dannyexplosion
    @Dannyexplosion 4 місяці тому

    I hope they can wrap it up in a satisfying way… the music is so terrible in this series.

  • @Firenutz
    @Firenutz 4 місяці тому +1

    Wanting to really like this season, but I can’t trust it to wrap up with even a fraction of the suspense and satisfaction of the first season. There simply isn’t enough time, and we’ve got too many loose threads to resolve in a satisfying way. I’m fully prepped to be disappointed. There are elements to love here, but the pieces just aren’t going to come together in under two hours. Not without some cheap and shallow cheats. I hope I’m wrong, but I really doubt it.

    • @user-qi9sw6fm3t
      @user-qi9sw6fm3t 4 місяці тому

      I know me too. I thought the first episode was perfection, but then we don’t hear anything of the woman that woke up!!!

  • @nonsequitor
    @nonsequitor 4 місяці тому

    Great recap man. Idk why people are complaining, this season is excellent overall - if too short as you observed. Music did suck tho...had to mute it several times. There's only so far you can crawl up your own over emotional arse...

    • @TheRealBatCave
      @TheRealBatCave 4 місяці тому

      People hate it cuz it just seems like a lazy attempt to recapture the sparks season 1 had, best way I can describe this season as a welfare version of rust chole.

    • @PerfectoKiss
      @PerfectoKiss 4 місяці тому

      People hate it because there is very little detective work involved this season.

  • @Siamese3
    @Siamese3 4 місяці тому

    i believe Navarro mom was in a trance and was trying to tell her what her name was but it's frightening to a child plus hearing she is crazy so the memory is bad. oliver told her she forgot her name which could be true if mom was acting crazy when she was trying to tell her

  • @isaac.anthony
    @isaac.anthony 4 місяці тому

    I'm thinking this season could be about a different dark god and their power, like season 1 was about the Yellow King, and this season is about Sedna the Inuit god.

    • @isaac.anthony
      @isaac.anthony 4 місяці тому

      Kind of the same way that HP Lovecraft is only the most famous author but not the only one to write about the dark gods between the stars.

    • @donkeysaurusrex7881
      @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 місяці тому +1

      I like how we’re two thirds of the way in, and no one has said the name Sedna. Not very good storytelling if this proves to be true.

  • @720reddog
    @720reddog 4 місяці тому +10

    What exactly is compelling about this season? Marginalization of minorities, traumatic life events, mental illness, ecological effects, or maybe cult beliefs? Really heavy on social commentary light on detective casework. The problem is revisiting the same issues over and over just staged in a slight difference of aspect.

  • @marknovak6498
    @marknovak6498 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah too much needs to be done in too few episodes IMHO.

  • @whlewis9164
    @whlewis9164 4 місяці тому +1

    I’ve watched 4 hours of recap and analysis videos for a season of which I intend to watch 0 minutes.

    • @Mogorman87
      @Mogorman87 4 місяці тому

      What a loser 😂😂😂

  • @Johnnyrocks34
    @Johnnyrocks34 4 місяці тому

    Id only drink bottled water in that town. Is it a real town In Alaska? Or made up?

  • @ninguno141
    @ninguno141 4 місяці тому

    I want to watch a detective series but it does nothing but mess up with a stupid script

  • @rodolfocallahan4458
    @rodolfocallahan4458 3 місяці тому

    🤣 Promo SM

  • @fuzzy__dunlop
    @fuzzy__dunlop 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm sticking with it, but losing interest in this season.

  • @splayzer
    @splayzer 4 місяці тому +6

    Yeah, i have a different opinion about it. This is a bad season of TD. I was already in the fence last week, but this week??? come on! There were 53min of nothing and 5min of something. It became a teenage family drama with murder and (maybe) supernatural elements. Plus, you tell me that Navarro got beat up in the face pretty bad and the piercings are all ok??!!! no inflammation, no swelling...Seriously??!!! Dare I say this is as bad as season 2. With 2hrs to go, I have zero expectations that this will have a satisfactory ending.
    Note: its pretty obvious that the last shot of the series will be the sun rising up, as the night country comes to an end. All stupidly predictable...

  • @jmchez
    @jmchez 4 місяці тому +1

    Got to point out that in 2024, any movie or show that plays a funereal version of a happy song to seem edgy, has jumped the shark. That thing was already a cliche five or seven years ago.

    • @isaacgraham5727
      @isaacgraham5727 4 місяці тому +3

      Why do you assume that the intention is to “seem edgy” at all? You may not have noticed it, but a quiet version of “Twist and Shout” was used in the last episode when Navarro was alone and hallucinating on the ice. The guy that Navarro probably shot while she was seeing visions in the flashback (Wheeler, I think) was also whistling Twist and Shout. This ties into the cliffhanger ending of episode 4.
      I’d suggest you’re just a lazy viewer leaping to conclusions about the intent of the show-runner without even bothering to dig so much as an inch deep into what’s going on in the actual show.

    • @jmchez
      @jmchez 4 місяці тому

      @@isaacgraham5727 A cliche is a cliche no matter what the intent is. It is something that a lazy producer or showrunner will use, even after its been done a hundred times in other shows.

  • @bunnerkins
    @bunnerkins 4 місяці тому +1

    Damn Pete you really have no passion for this season at all. You don't seem to have a very solid grasp on how the other half lives. And did you even try to find out how the shows setting speaks to the events on screen? Something in the tone of your voice, sounds like you are biting your tongue and the silence is not flattering.