Ken Ham’s DNA Traced Back to Noah’s Son?! | Traced: Episode 1
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Learn how Harvard-trained geneticist Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson can trace back individuals to Ham, Shem, or Japheth (Noah's sons) through newly discovered DNA research - including Answers in Genesis' very own Ken Ham.
Learn more in Dr. Jeanson's new book:
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What I'd like to know is where they found samples of Noah's sons DNA. That would be interesting.
look how genuinely taken back and warm inside ken looked at the end when he understood
‘…Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith ‘
1st Timothy 1:4-5 deflates my ego, and allows me to humbly understand Godly edification. A touch of Proverbs helps, too.
This is so amazing to see the research prove the biblical story! The harder non believers try to hide the evidence of The Lord our God the more he exposes his truths!
@@taylorthetunafish5737 Hello Taylor. What fact of history disproves biblical claims of history? How does the Bible dispute itself? Why don't the stories add up? You've made unsupported claims. So far, you have given only your opinion void of factual content.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 you need to do more reading, you're quite a bit behind the times.
Taylor The Tuna Fish, nice deflect. Jon Covey asked you to back up your claims but you ignored thar and went straight to Angela Hunt and demanded she back up her claims.
@Taylor The Tuna Fish, I can comprehend very well....when there is some thing to read. As it is, your response is not in this comment section. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...maybe it was censored because I don't see it anywhere.
@@taylorthetunafish5737you would be very surprised if you educated yourself
This largely debunks the racist arguments. Because as I always believed that every color existed since the start of time. And thank you for confirming that Caucasian people are an actual people and that we have and did exist as well. This proves my original thought that were human and color doesn’t play a role in the Bible.
White people did not exist until about 6000 years ago. Even if you believe this bs traced “creationist science” Noah’s three mythical sons would all have been black. All humans are descended from the first black African humans.
@@napoleonruss1528 the earth is only about 6 to 7 thousand years old. And that’s according to the Bible. So if we existed then the question begs where did you come from? You can sit there with your self righteous attitude thinking black superior thoughts all you want. But this is either true what he says or you’re subconsciously admitting that we existed before you which would bring a whole world of other questions. But don’t worry I don’t need your answers because I have already had all mine answered.
Interesting that religious people will trust DNA testing ( a scientific process) if it backs up their claims , but will then argue that other scientific processes like evolution are wrong . Seems science is ok as long as it suits the narrative .
@@billieboy8 ok so you evolved from one species to another? So you’re saying that your ancestors were monkey’s right? And before that they were fish then a single cell organism? Nah dude I go on facts not what proves my narrative. You don’t see a dog evolving into a cat or horse nor do you see an ape turning into a human do you? If that was the case then you’d see apes turning into humans today but you don’t. They tell you given millions or billions of years things go from probable to possible but we haven’t been around for millions to billions of years. I think you need to study before you talk about something you have no idea about.
@Radical Red Did I say what I believe ? I was just pointing out the irony . The straightforward fact is nobody knows how we came to be on this planet . We wern't there . Scientists can theorise given their knowledge of natural occurrences etc , and religious people can theorise given what they read in an ancient book , but nobody really knows . I'm open to any who can show me solid practicle evidence . The bible has so many different versions , just taking it literally and believing blindly is ridiculous . Talking snakes , humans living 900yrs , parting seas , same goes with science unless I see it with my own eyes it's hard to believe that there was this "big bang" End of the day nobody knows , and I'm not going to stress out over it I'm here, I lead a good decent life , one day I won't be . I'll make the most of my time . If I'm wrong I'll know one way or the other when I die whatever .
- Always a pleasure to learn of these AMAZING discoveries (confirmations of Biblical history)! Your presentations are VERY well done!
Bible apologists always try to push unproven claims. Note that almost everything alluding to the bible ends with a question mark.
If you ask them to show you a single burial site they won't. Jesus' crucifixion and burial site was decided by a Roman emperor at a time when he was trying desperately to cling onto something to help unify his empire. No scientific proof. Just like no proof about the supposed burial site of apostle Peter.
But go to Egypt and you will get proof of things or people that existed ten thousand years ago.
What discoveries would that be? He is tracing DNA back to people whose bones he did not have? Does this make sense?
This is crap. Attempting to use science to prove what?
You need the bones of Noah to trace his descendants.
Did he present an explanation as to white all non-Africans have Neanderthal's DNA...3% to up to 40%, from one source?
A/B (Ham), DE-YAP (Shem), CF (Japheth)! x
Yep
My DNA is Askenazi from Noahs Great grandson. Notice though that not everyone has Jewish DNA it is because of The Tower of Babel genetics were altered I believe then . But we are still all related in the sence that we all originally came from Adam.
I just watched all the series about this you guys did back in 2020. I found it so fascinating that I immediately ordered your book. Can't wait to read it!
Is there a Playlist for that series? I watched the first two and didn't know where the third one was.
@@calebmathias The New History of The Human Race playlist.
Everyone alive today can be traced back to Noah and his family .
what I wonder is how you got dna from Noah and his sons?
Because we all are descendants. He went back and found the three split at the same time
With such a short history, each one of us is significant and precious.
Ham was never cursed.His youngest son canaan was cursed!
Thank you Jesus for The Truth that sets s free!!We ARE FAMILY 🙏🙏🙏We NEED to Love each other as FAMILY 💖💖💖
This is very cool!
Well, the information fits with the blessing. Shem was blessed first, followed by Japheth, and Canaan was cursed. So it makes sense that Shem's line would have populated most of the earth.
The Atlantic Slave Trade was the dispersion of the descendants of Shem. The Ashkenazi descended from Gomer, son of Japheth.
My question is where are the descendants of Abrahams sons from Keturah (Genesis 21:1). The Bible tells us that there were 6 children from this union. So, who are where would they be reflected in your hypothesis?
Bible says they went eastward. I believe you can find them in India where they mingled with the aboriginal Dravidians.
@@verenatuna9010 Keturah was a Midianite which was Ethiopian..
I'm playing catch-up. Listening in mixed order. Still extremely fascinating.
Strengthening our faith brothers! Thank you.
No. Telling you comforting lies.
@Ndea Monk whatever works best for you man!
@Ryan Flanders no. For the sake of human progress, at some point we have to go with what's honest. When it was discovered the Earth wasn't the center of the solar system like religious people once thought, it wasn't as simple as saying whatever theory works for you. It was about what's accurate. We really move forward with what is truth. And what these men are saying doesn't at all represent that. How I deliver that is as important as if it's true or not. They're aren't multiple truths.
@Ndea Monk that was my way of saying I really don't care what you have to say. Going on videos and replying to comments 8 months a go looking for an argument isn't really my thing. Enjoy your night.
@@Flanderslessons but you responded anyway. You don't have much longer to wallow in that ignorance.
I just finished the first book, Replacing Darwin, a fascinating read. When I was asked to explain the idea of DNA showing human origins, this was what I came up with: It is like a number of people starting on a journey and then going there separate ways at various points along the way. So everyone (in theory) has the same begining point, fewer the first and second both, fewer still the first second and third and so on. Another thought that occurred again and again: Those who believe in a million years old humanity should have explain why it took so long for human progress/civiliaztion to originate. Dr. Jeanson's dates humantiy so that it accords with actual civilizatino history.
It's fun to know that we can research these things today and find out more info whether it's for health reason or just for fun. My nephew who is my sisters grandson did the test for his health and found out that on My mother's DNA through 23 and Me we learned our family is related to St. Luke who was buried in Italy, that's where they tested his bones, and the family DNA goes to Asia / Egypt. But, I also knew that my dad's mom was half Jewish so, I come from Shem. I use to always wonder which son from Noah we were related to... so, Ken that means we're related how about that. Have a blessed day all... I guess we're all going to be brothers and sisters soon enough with how things seem to be going these days. God bless you! and Thank you for your show, Maranatha!!
Hi! Another of St Luke's ancestors here, apparently! CIS-ab rh null, and paternal dna only...what a life, what a ride!
(1:45) Dr Jeanson stated the DNA test must be the male inherited DNA Y Chromosome only and you must request your branch or haploid group.
Would be interesting to test the blood remnants on the Turin shroud.
They have tested it.. it only has x chromosome. And it's AB
@@canezbrandy and specifically, AB-
The only problem is 1 that the shroud and any contents on it is very old, and thus will not give any kind of reliable result, and 2 many people have handled the shroud since it came to be, any number of persons DNA will be on there to contaminate the original blood.
Watch Ron wyatt
The shroud is Leonardo da Vinci's humour. 😄
Dr. Jeanson, in your DNA research, did you see any DNA modification that is out of the ordinary descendancy?
I’ve always balked at dna tests but I’d love to know which son of Noah I came from. This is beyond intriguing!! I need this book. ❤
'I've always balked at DNA tests'
Does that mean you don't trust science?
'.. but I'd love to know which son of Noah I came from'
Does that mean you trust science-- if it aligns with your personal beliefs?
'I need this book'.
The book is not going to tell you which son of Noah you came from.
'Nathaniel Jeanson’s Traced: Human DNA’s Big Surprise (2022, Master Books) offers virtually no surprises. This is not a science book. It is a work of fundamentalist religious propaganda dressed to appear scientific. Jeanson attempts to employ an analysis largely of his own invention on a narrow sampling of the human genome - extant Y-chromosome samples borrowed from other studies. These doctored genetic patterns are mapped onto historical events in an attempt to prove to the reader that all human beings are the descendants of the three sons of Noah - Shem, Japheth, and Ham. Jeanson’s views on world history are adolescent, Western-centric, and almost entirely focused on conflict and his science amateurish and divorced from any established methodology in molecular population genetics. In the end Jeanson, like all good science denialists, ends up ostensibly proving to the reader what he believed to begin with. Traced is a book working within his contractual obligations to his employer (the evangelical, conservative Christian ministry, Answers in Genesis) to promote a narrow, legalistic, literalist reading of the King James Bible and a Christian culture war agenda. It is not a science book. It is not a sober, informed historical account. It is a proselytizing work of pseudoscientific apologetics covered with a thin veil of carefully selected empiricism in an attempt to give his ideas the credibility he apparently craves'
-- Herman L Mayes, Biology Department, Marshall University
.. and countless other credible sources freely available online if you're interested. Apologetics books disguised as science are not going to teach you much about science.
A good hint is if any of they’re sins are reported along with the judgement that is laid upon they’re family/nation it’s what is passed on from them on
There's no concern to "balk" other than the expense of the testing. I think my "full blown" testing a few years ago by CRI Genetics was about $180. I'll probably wait a few years and have some further testing done (Essentially a duplicate test) just to verify results of the first test. The reasoning here is that my brother has had several tests done by other companies since they have become commercially available, and the results have varied a bit in his experience. Nothing major, just some lack of consistency in his "pie charts" of the percentages of Scottish/Irish/Germanic. My mother and father had 3 sons and my genetic test showed some things that did NOT show up on my brother's because of the number of generations included in the CRI Genetics' test. So, the next time I get mine done, I'd like to get the same tests done for my two brothers by the same testing company, then compare the results. The interesting thing is that I know my genealogies going back to about 1800 and the test verified what I expected to see going back that far (Haplo R1b). So, get your test done and make sure you get the Haplo Group test although a lot of genetic testing outfits have an upcharge for that testing package.
It would be so cool to know who else in the Bible we came from
@@kingskid5130 if they existed, you are related to them:-)
I know certain people get shadow banned (my comments get shadow banned/taken down all the time) but in this case I think the actual video is being targeted and someone from uuuu tooob is taking them down… the only other explanation would be the video creator taking them down but I’m pretty sure that’s not something they would do, especially when they agree with the video
I see your comment
@@timothytrespas Not this specific comment
According to my standard 23andMe test/report and some of my own supplemental research, my paternal haplogroup is R1b1a1b-M269. What does that mean, and where does it come from? And how do you know if R is really Semetic and not Japhetic, and that people came to Europe at the time you say they did?
Heirs of the Promise E Raymond Capt The" Lost" Tribes of Israel
@@amyjoyce2301 Excuse me? Could you explain a bit more?
@@blindvision4703 Sorry it's been so long I thought you might not even be around.
The first is a link if you can patch it together. If that doesn't work you can search for the video on youtube by title. It explains how the tribes of Israel got scattered, some south and some north and northwest. It's a copy of an older interview but very interesting nonetheless..... There's also a current channel that goes deep into how Europeans were originally from Israel thousands of years ago. It's called: Christian America Ministries. He's great and a very nice man who will answer your questions if you email him. Peace.
who did a cotton swap on Ham,Shem or Japhet???
This is astounding! This is changing a lot. And the further we get with DNA research more things will become clear.
How did they get a DNA sample to compare to?
This was covered 2 years ago. There have been several published tests to compare to.
Do the have the dna of the three brothers ?
How can we do this test… I’d love to know my lineage…💚
I'm Curious about this testing - my parents didn't have any boys, and none of my sisters had kids. I have nephews from both half siblings - how useful would those tests be for me?
For Y-DNA testing, you need males of the last name you're interested in. Perhaps your father had brothers with male children who could take a test. As far as I know, Family Tree DNA is the only company today that still does Y-DNA tests. Ancestry and others are sticking to the more profitable autosomal tests that hook you up with thousands of cousins and show which parts of the world your ancestors likely originated in.
Y dna traces back the male line of the family about 25 generations. Creationists hack utube channels aren't the source of information for things Scientific. The Human Genome Project made this type of thing common place and is considered one of the greatest achievements in science. Hope you find what you're looking for
AiG should create a documentary or an explainer video on this complete with grqphics and charts. That would be cool.
'AIG should..'
Not attempt to teach any area of science. Ever. If you want to learn about the Bible, apologetics, etc., then fine, go to AIG. If you want to learn about science, you are going to have to look somewhere else, unfortunately.
@TravisBickle Popsicle I guess you've missed the part where this has all been tested and documented, and more tests are being done all the time. Feel free to conduct the tests for yourself. That's what actual science is--developing a hypothesis and then testing to see if that hypothesis plays out or not, and then coming to conclusions based on the results of those many, many tests. But feel free to continue denying the test results and sticking to man's assumptions based on man's assumptions (yes, I did repeat the word intentionally), which have ALREADY been debunked and proven wrong decades ago. The Christian faith is not anti-science. It's anti-propoganda, which is what today's "science" is all about. "'Of the 52 active scientists who made the most significant contributions during the Scientific Revolution, only one was an atheist.' Modern science did not rise in rebellion against God; it rose to applaud him." Quoted from Dr. Jeff Myers' "Truth Changes Everything." It's amazing what students in the public school system AREN'T taught about history and the Christians who laid the foundations for what we take for granted today--in the arts, the sciences, politics, education. Granted, we see a lot of those fields crumbling away--but not at the foundation level; only at the surface level, ever since society determined to shove God out of the picture.
@@lauriegermaine6506 What specifically are you referring to when you say 'debunked decades ago'?
Science is about falsifying, not 'debunking'. So, what are you talking about that has been falsified? Just curious, thanks
@@lauriegermaine6506
'I am reviewing the hardcover version of this book which I purchased on March 29, 2022 before it went back on pre-order. I have a PhD in biology and a tenured position in the life sciences at a public university where I teach genetics and participate in collaborative research in molecular systematics and population genetics. This review is an abridged version of articles on my website critiquing Jeanson’s work. Nathaniel Jeanson’s Traced: Human DNA’s Big Surprise offers virtually no surprises. This is not a science book. It is a work of fundamentalist religious propaganda dressed to appear scientific. Jeanson attempts to employ an analysis largely of his own invention on a narrow sampling of the human genome. These doctored genetic patterns are mapped onto historical events in an attempt to prove to the reader that all human beings are the descendants of the three sons of Noah. Traced is a book working within his contractual obligations to his employer (the conservative Christian ministry, Answers in Genesis) to promote a literal reading of the Bible and a Christian culture war agenda. It is not a science book. It is not an informed historical account. It is a proselytizing work of Christian apologetics covered with a thin veil of carefully selected empiricism in an attempt to give his ideas credibility'
-- Herman Mayes, professor of biology, Marshall University
I left a comment with this quote earlier, but it disappeared..? Anyway, I fact-checked the book, 'Traced'. Have you done that yet?
Scientists who write for Answers in Genesis adhere to a statement of faith. One cannot conduct science while adhearing to some sort of statement of faith.
Concerning Christians contributing to science: yes, of course, many Christians and people of other faiths have contributed greatly to science over the years, such as Francis Collins, who led the Human Genome Project. The thing is, those scientists were conducting science while they were doing their work, they were not conducting Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, etc. Science is conducted the same way all over the world, regardless of religious beliefs, culture, language, etc.
This book is apologetics disguised as science. I can definitely see how it would fool a lot of people, since it does seem 'sciency' to people who don't know better. Also, please keep in mind that this author's work has not been peer-reviewed. That should definitely raise some flags in your head if you know anything about science and how it works.
'Feel free to continue denying the test results'
I am not 'denying' them, I am *rejecting* them because they are pseudoscientific nonsense. I would have no trouble accepting them if they were not, but they are, so I have no choice but to reject them. I don't have any religious beliefs, so I don't have to deal with that nasty problem called 'confirmation bias'.
From quora--
Q: Who peer reviewed Dr. Nathaniel Jeansen's work on Y chromosomal Adam/Mitochondrial Eve and did they have any objections?
A: It took me a while, but I eventually found your reference:
JEANSON NT. Does' Y-chromosome Adam'Refute Genesis?. Institute for Creation Research. 2013.
As you see, it was ‘published’ by a non-scientific, religious institution with a self-admitted non-evidence-based bias. Nobody peer-reviewed the work. It was never published in any peer-reviewed journal.
Any reputable scientist who might have been asked to review the work wouldn’t have only had objections, they would have recommended it be deposited in the circular file where it belonged.
--Ian Lester, M.Biol. Sci. Advanced, Australian National University
what about the influence of the wives of the 3 sons...and mrs Noah??
I don’t know how I guessed that they both would be from the line of Shem 👀.
It is so great that we have new creation scientist information supporting the bible and a young earth. Have to keep up with constant new videos as evo's do.
What the heck is an 'evo'?
And what is 'creation science'?
This is a religious apologetics video, not a science video.
@@travisbicklepopsicle don’t hold your breath, you’ll never get an answer
@@joeycan6801 true. I should know better by now..
*More than been patient to wait for answers or hold your breath, like someone said here, I want to remind you that you need to not forget that this presentation is only touching a very tiny created part of something supernatural. . . What you see came out or was made up of what you can't see. This is an absolute true even when you talk about science.*
*So it's not about receiving answers you can argue against or holding your breath for an answer taylored to your lack of faith or ignorance. . .*
*It's is about to think a bit deeper and go back to the principles that govern the creation, because they are the same revealed through science. (God is Omniscient, so God's knowledge is revealed through science for those who can't get it the easiest way . . . The Spiritual Realm is everything)*
This conclusion lines up with the historical timeline detailed in Eustice Mullins' Curse of Canaan. That's scary. I'd love to know how his other claims fit in with this data.
@6:57 The chart shows Shem> Peleg> Jews, but when it shows Ham>Ethiopia>? There's no mention of Ethiopian Jews. The Bible mentions Ethiopian Jews, and the garden of Eden- "that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. " So if Ethiopia is the geographic location of the birthplace of humanity, wouldn't it make sense that the first Jews were African Jews? Racist interpretations of the origin of humanity always leads to the omission of the Black man, even among socalled Christians!
@@BishopEddie5443 No because the Ethiopian Jews are descended from Solomon through the Queen of Sheba. FYI race pride is a false idol. I feel for you but you need to repent.
@@BishopEddie5443 The phrase "Racist interpretations of the origin of humanity always leads to the omission of the Black man, even among socalled Christians!" is the literal spirit of Cain, it is the curse of Canaan: resentment and judgement manifested for the service of the reviling spirit within. Remember 1 Corinthians 6:10 revilers will not inherit the kingdom of God. I hope this helps you. I'd love to know your thoughts.
Do you believe one must keep the commandments to enter the kingdom of God?@@guineapigsith699
@@BishopEddie5443 First, The garden of Eden wasn't in Ethiopia. The River Gihon flows out Eden to Ethiopia. That could only happen if the continents were joined pre-flood. It is no longer the case post flood. Second,The curse of Canaan is more or less , Canaan being wiped out by God's judgment when the Israelites were freed from Egypt and told the land was theirs now. The Canaanites were a pagan race that practice child sacrifice among other disgusting things in the Lord's eyes. God gave them over 400 years to repent and they didn't . End of the line for them. Third, As far as blacks goes.We don't know if there were any blacks at the time of Canaan. Their skin tone might not have darken up by that time. The blacks might have been white, Unless you consider someone with a permanent tan as black , but Noah's sons most likely had the same skin tone. Ham's line would need time to darken up a bit. Keep in mind that it takes more than skin tone to be black. Facial bone structures are important too. They discovered a skeleton of a woman in Northern Europe just before Rome fell. Found out she was rich by her grave goods and she was black , by her facial bone structure. She was from a rich family visiting N Europe and died on the way back home.
Why wouldn't all of Jacob/Israel's sons have that same E1b?
Question, where does it say this in the video? I would like the know about that part where it said Jacob had E1b.
Does anyone know which journal he has published his research in? I'd very much like to read the original paper.
It's not peer reviewed. It wasn't published in any peer reviewed journal - only by a religious institution. Basically one for the bargain bin.
@@user-vo4wc2jz8g a liberal and his peer reviewed cry. The Bible was peer reviewed as was the flat earth theory. 😂😂
Awesome, keep going 💪
1) how can this work out population size as you only need one son per generation to get the range of Y chrome variations?
2) Do siblings have the same or different codes?
Only brothers would have the SAME Y cromsome as it is passed down from father to son. But Boys do have an X and a Y cromosome.Each. their X can be different.
@Plainsman Nope. Two Gentic Experts proved what he was saying and they are not Religious they have Degrees and evidence backing them up. But they ALSO studied the historical evidence of the Bible as in Archlogical EVIDENCE it has ern proven true. They would be a FOOL like you to disregard that history that coincides with history. Look this up, Dr. HARRY OSTRER AND DR MIKE HAMMER have proven this. "GENESIS CORRECTLY PREDICTS Y CROMOSOMES PATTERN" Use your brain.....not your emotions.
@@TURQUOISEEYES When you say each X can be different, would that be only if they had different mothers, or even with having the same one?
@51MontyPython They're X's come one from their Father and one from their mother. Each has 50% of the Grandparents DNA from their mother and Father and they have 4 Grandparents. The X can be passed down from grandmother or grandfather. As BOTH have X CHROMOSOMES. So brothers can get either Thier father's X or their mother's X. Or vise versa. Only Identical twins get the same X as their siblings. DNA IS a crap shoot. But males Y CHROMOSOMES is ALWAYS passed from father to son. So two brothers WILL have their Father's unchanged Y CHROMOSOMES. That is why siblings may not look alike.
@51MontyPython Even Faternal twins can get different X CHROMOSOMES from their twin. They are two SEPARATE eggs developed and born just at the same time. Faternal twins can be boy/girls or boy/boy and girl/girl. Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen are Faternal twins. That LOOK identical but are just like siblings that look similar. Some look like their siblings some don't. One of my Neices looks darker then her two other siblings because her dad's side is darker.
What is G-L30 I don't understand the charts
Would be funny if Ken is from the line of Ham.
Why would that be funny?
@@nialcc Last name.
@@nialcc because his name is Ken HAM
Because Shemites and Hamites were from two different son's bloodlines, but were often identified as the other. All people of color are not Hamites! His academics place all people of color as if descending from Sub-Sahara Africa. 🌍 And we all know where that trane of thought comes from.
@@merloncox4408 Trying to play the race card? Ad hominem.
How did they conclude this... Give this at least to 3 independent science labs and then have the object truth.. Do not have pre conceived ideas
Mr Ham you are an amazing man of God keep up the excellent work .😁
Thanks, will do
This is so interesting, but Ken was trying to get him to stay focused on his (Ken's) DNA. I was hoping for a linear explanation, instead of jumping all over.
Wouldn’t you be curious about your ancestors and origin after the flood, I am!
If you have a Bible with a map you can find out too I kind figured that after the flood my ancestor was Japheth he and his wife moved to Southern Europe over time. I have one Bible that has a map showing where the people went to after the flood I’m going to buy this book .
Fascinating presentation!
Do you have biological samples of the three people to compare to for confirmation? There were a lot of people alive at that time. Going back to a particular person is a stretch to where it would be dismissed as conjecture.
They don't care :-) anything they think confirms their beliefs *must* be fact.
@@travisbicklepopsicle
My issue with them isn't the interpretation of the data that all sides have access to (I'm willing to follow the dots to get out of the inchohearant non-theistic religious materialism) it's their incorporation of a couple 20th century well-funded (verifiably false) history narratives into their formation. I'm sorry, it's a sophomoreic error.
I was hoping that this might be biological proof of their inferred Shem biological lineage claim but it's just more layers of conjecture added to the pile.
For me, that's the basic deal breaker as they, type 28 jews (ref. Rom. 2.28, 29) are using this venue as a conflated rehortical padlock to attach and promote their nonesence greatest victim fable.
@@labas9817
Please elaberate.
I'm a hienze 57 saved by the grace of God.
so I only took the ancestry which stated that my paternal (Spain) line is in haplogroup "R1b", would that mean from your chart is traced from the line of Shem? and my maternal (Japan) line is in haplogroup "A".
Victor Rael, that means you are a descendant of Tarshish.
Genesis 9:27 KJV - God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Excellent work and extremely interesting and valuable for apologetics for people like me.
With this reply you clearly display disregard for the Bible and God’s word. All we can do is pray for you.
@@gerhardborstlap7796 that's fine that you want to pray for him :-) another thing you can maybe do is learn about science from proper sources, not apologetics websites and videos.. *if* you are honestly interested in *learning*, of course.
'Valuable for apologetics'
Sure, because when it comes to apologetics, anything goes :-) science, however.. doesn't quite work that way.
I notice Australia is not among the pictures below the philogeny tree info on the board behind your heads. Why?
Australia isn’t mentioned in the Bible because it doesn’t exist.
I bought your book! I'm watching to help me further understand what I am reading! VERY interesting!!
Looking forward to the other episodes!
Ken Ham’s name is interesting.. it’s always reminded me of Ham, Noah’s son.. probably because Ken does a lot of work concerning the flood and Noah
The global flood never happened
No it's actually a reference to "Ham" as in low quality comedy. I can't believe you didn't see the obvious
its pure coincidence and myth sorry
Actually he's an author who writes books that cater to the indoctrinated and ignorant. Probably a lot easier than getting an honest occupation
@@imafeltersnatch7634
"actually he's an author"
You said the indoctrinated? That would be you but you don't listen..
So. 600 out of almost 8 BILLION gives you a good representation? I don't disagree with your method nor conclusion. I want to believe that your research proves my faith as well. I just wonder if it is stringent enough for a claim so bold.
I have often wondered if Noah had more children after the flood, their names are not in scripture, but it would not surprise me at all if we discover more sons, he lived another three hundred years, that is more than enough time to have more children…
He was 60 years old when he went on the Ark. That means his wife would have been just about as old. At that age they couldn't have had more children......unless of course he slept with his Daughter's in law. But that was very unlikely.
@shamarhebrew20
He and his wife may have had old age children like Abraham and Sarah or even Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist, also aged.
There is no record of this if it had been so God would have told us trough his word the Bible
It is crucial that we believe the Bible as God has spoken it
if we don't all breaks down or will break down eventually
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We see in Genesis that Adam and Eve had more children before Cain and Abel that the scriptures do not tell us about, this is because Cain was the first to kill somebody, killing was the first noteworthy event to take place after the fall, so this is what we are told first, how do we know this? Because the first thing Cain does after being cursed, is getting married and going off to make a city of his own, so there must be a world with enough people in it already for him to be able to do these things…
Scripture is true, and I am eternally grateful for a Father in Heaven who wants us to know him and love him, but all things cannot and are not written in scripture, the world has not been big enough to hold that much information until our day, God must always work within our abilities not his, and the best we were and are still able to handle, is just the noteworthy things, but when Christ returns he has promised to first correct all the misunderstandings we have had, and then to fill us in on all the things the scriptures did not have room to tell us about, and this is going to be so amazing!!
Just because the scriptures do not have enough room to record things that took place, does not mean those things did not happen, and just because we use our mind to take real information and extrapolate out what could actually be possible, based upon true information we already have, does not mean that we are offending God, we are not building a gospel around these things, we are just thinking about them, and what did God give us curious minds for, if not to be curious?
Just some thoughts…
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Bodies before the flood were not like bodies after the flood, people were living many hundreds of years, for a person who lived 950 years, 60 years old would be the equivalent of a toddler by our standard today…
Getting our tiny minds to understand a world we have never seen or experienced, is the same as attempting our minds to understand heaven, our minds just cannot do it, our minds just do not have that ability, the earth and the people before the flood could be and do things it and we cannot do today, that event changed everything, nothing is the way it was before…
What about people with neanderthal dna how come homo erectus shares our dna as well??
Great info on which test to get. Just got the book, earth shattering!
So Ken, can you explain to me and others Genesis 5:1-5, and why all born from Adam from Seth onward are born in Adam's image? We are all born in the fallen image of Adam. Hence our sin nature, and our need to trust in Jesus and what HE did for us on the cross. He shed His blood for ours. When we trust in Him and are born again by His Spirit, we again are born in His image.
He might be a Harvard PhD and I enjoy much of his work, but R1B is not from Shem. R1B is from Japheth. It's predominantly found throughout Europe and not the Middle East. Anybody that researches a little can see that easily. The so-called switch is from all these Ashkenazis that force the science to bend to their will/desire to be called Israelites.
Ask him where are the Japheth descendants at then???
Did they populate the Arab lands????
Or Africa????
This is clearly wishful thinking to be associated with people in the bible. So stealing other people's heritage.
Blackie. You DONT have a degree in Gentics. ....so WHO are you to correct him. Two OTHER Gentics EXPERTs back him up....look up Genisis correctly predicts Y CROMOSOMES pattern. You see,I RESEARCHED it!
@@TURQUOISEEYES you believe just because they have a degree? Since when has a degree stopped people from twisting the truth and telling lies ? I guess you took the jab because the doctors told you it was safe 🤷🏾♀️
@Queen M G I think it is funny you believe in the DNA evidence of Dinosaurs but not the DNA evidence of the Israelited they found Entombed! No, I didn't take the Jab. It wasn't PROVEN to work. Unlike these Doctors....Harry and Mike who used BONE MARROW and Teeth For DNA from the Ancient tombs. Use your brain. Dr. HARRY has physical evidence.
I'd like to know what companies do Y chromosome tests.
Family Tree DNA, to get yDNA, it really is the only one to go to, wait till they have sales, it is expensive?
Fascinating!!!!!! Thank you so much!!
The 3 sons are IJK, GH and DE.
It's the most coherent divide.
It would be helpful if Dr. Jeanson would present this by telling us upfront what he is going to tell us, then tell us in steps or parts, and then recap what he just told us. I have a hard time following all his details. I get lost in the weeds of all the details that are presented. There are too many for the listener to absorb. The chart is too small to help viewers. I finally gave up trying to follow especially since Ken Ham's geneology never seemed to get answered. The sad part is that I'm really interested. I want it to be true. Perhaps you need to get a teacher to help you organize this information so that people can follow it easier.
*Agree!*
Ken Ham was a school teacher.
It's intended to be confusing so you don't ask too many awkward questions. Frankly it's nonsense pseudoscience. It just sounds good to those who don't know any better. It's easy enough to research this stuff with Google.
Get the book
The chart can be easily read on a computer monitor.
"I finally gave up trying to follow especially since Ken Ham's geneology never seemed to get answered."
Well this is episode 1, so presumably there are more episodes. I think they even said his genealogy would be discussed more in the further episodes. I have not watched them yet. I think this is a more general introduction.
DNA preserves for about 50,000 years.
Where is the missing 45,000 years ?
Au contraire Ken, Ireland kept alight the only flame of Christianity after the death of Charlemagne. Though in a way you're right, credulous barbarians they certainly were, otherwise it wouldn't have flickered there.
Which DNA product did you use? I used Ancestry
I love this ministry! Keep showing the works of our great God! Glory to God in the highest! His kingdom come!
I went to the link but don't see where it says to connect to the "Every People Project" on the Traced page. Is there a new link?
Me too
What if there are no living full related males in my tree. Is there any alternative to the Y testing?
if you join Family Tree DNA , do it as cheap as you can, look for family name that could give the Haplo Group
Shem and ham have always had a relationship together; in fact, Shem walked into Egypt 80 strong left Egypt 600, 000 to a million people or more, they amalgamated with the Egyptians. It seems that he has made the youngest haplogroups the progenitor of Shem based on a flood oral story.
What a feeling this gives. Makes absolute sense.
You too buying into this hogwash?
@@samayo9746 I find it very interesting and logical. There is obviously lots more work to be done, but the lineage mapping shows a timeline that makes sense rather than thinking that we come from apes millions of years ago. We are created and the timeline shows our origins in a logical way. Why do you think that it is hogwash?
@@gordonmitchell729 it's hogwash because it's pseudoscience. Anyone who knows anything about science knows this. Ken Ham is *not* a scientist.
Why don't you try learning about science from actual scientists? Learn about the Bible, apologetics, and stuff like that from Ken Ham. Learn about science from scientists.
@@travisbicklepopsicle I read that nothing can come from closed minds.
@@gordonmitchell729 sounds about right.
Especially if a person has particular beliefs they *need* to be true. Difficult to penetrate a mind like that, and difficult for a person like that to be open-minded, especially when it comes to issues like this.
Great Job! Do you have the book in Spanish? do you have the book Replacing Darwin in Spanish?
This is going to be long, but I'm going to post it anyway.. from Amazon book reviews:
'There is little to like about this book. Like virtually all works of *science denial* it is built off of obfuscation, misinformation, cherry picking, confirmation bias, knowledge of relevant fields that is rudimentary at best and often *stunning omissions* of relevant science. It is in no way a valid work of science.
There is ample reason for Amazon to have cataloged this work under 'Christian' books and 'Bibles/theology' and *not* science.
Creationism, and especially the young earth creationism that Jeanson espouses, is an article of fundamentalist religious belief and is *completely divorced* from science and should more rightly be described as a form of *science denial* right up there with those who believe the earth is flat or that vaccines cause autism.
Jeanson in Replacing Darwin carefully creates a narrative in which data from comparative genetics appears to point to a young history of life on earth. He does so *largely ignoring* virtually *all* the science that says otherwise from geology to physics to paleontology. Instead, he brushes *whole fields of scientific inquiry aside* to look only at a carefully chosen and *misleading set of data* from genetics that conveniently gives him an answer that just so happens to fit with the *statement of faith* in a literal Bible he had to sign as a condition of employment at Answers in Genesis (such a contract that would be unheard of among any actual working scientists, myself included).
There is little evidence in this book that Jeanson has a grasp on the relevant science of population genetics. For example, he claims he is using standard "coalescence calculations" from coalescent theory that he derived from an undergraduate textbook on evolution (see location 3075 in the Kindle version of Replacing Darwin). However, the calculations he is using have virtually *nothing to do* with coalescent theory. The coalescent is a complex body of theory and methods that allows geneticists to trace the history of gene copies in a population and elucidate the effects of demographics, such as effective population size, on the time that elapsed from when two gene copies in the population could be traced to a single gene copy in the past.
*There is not one place, one method or one citation in Replacing Darwin that could be properly viewed as relevant to coalescent theory*
These sorts of errors, both trivial factual errors and fundamental conceptual ones, are throughout the book. Jeanson, for example, ignores the distinction between de novo mutation rates obtained from pedigrees and substitution rates (the latter of which is referring to the accumulation of fixed neutral genetic differences between lineages and the basis for assumptions underlying molecular clock approaches). He uses *cherry picked* per generation mutation rates rather than neutral substitution rates to create the illusion that the comparative genetic data support a history of life that goes back only a few thousand years. A conclusion virtually every professional scientist on the planet would find absolutely absurd'
-- Herman L. Mays Jr.
Associate Professor of Genetics, Department of Biological Sciences, Marshall University.
Just ordered the book!!
OK, this is nine months after broadcast, but 20 minutes of talking about what you are going to talk about. I hope you get to the point much quicker in the next videos.
So many people in this comment section are soooo excited about this video that they failed to do any fact-checking..
Oh, well.. as long as it supports your personal beliefs, it must be true, right?
Watched this when it came out. I have the book.
A bit off topic but not off subject is this, there are definitely far more birth defects in India where there is greater pantheistic worship, but seemingly in great frequency to the mouth, then the skull, hands, and feet. In religions where broad pantheism is less pronounced, ie, fewer defined gods, but more focused, like maybe the Huatl culture, are there distinctions in the frequency and types of mutations, or is it not apparently distinct?
Magog is R1a and Gomer is R1b you guys need to stop with misinformation:
Josephus Antiquities Chapter 6.
How every nation was denominated from their first inhabitants. (22)
1. [About An. 2520] Now they were the grand-children of Noah, in honour of whom names were imposed on the nations, by those that first seized upon them. Japhet, the son of Noah, had seven sons: they inhabited so, that beginning at the mountains Taurus and Amanus, they proceeded along Asia, as far as the river Tanais; and along Europe to Cadiz: and settling themselves on the lands they light upon, which none had inhabited before, they called the nations by their own names. 👉🏾For Gomer founded those whom the Greeks now call Galatians [Galls], but were then called Gomerites. Magog founded those that from him were named Magogites; but who are by the Greeks called Scythians👈🏾. Now as to Javan and Madai, the sons of Japhet; from Madai came the Madeans, who are called Medes, by the Greeks; but from Javan, Jonia, and all the Grecians are derived. Thobel founded the Thobelites; which are now called Iberes: and the Mosocheni were founded by Mosoch; now they are Cappadocians. There is also a mark of their ancient denomination still to be shewed, for there is even now among
“The Hebrew name Gomer refers to the Cimmerians, who dwelt in what is now southern Russia, "beyond the Caucusus"
Cambridge Ancient History Vol. II pt. 2, p. 425
“The name Caspian Gates originally applied to the narrow region at the southeast corner of the Caspian Sea, through which Alexander actually marched in the pursuit of Bessus, although he did not stop to fortify it. It was transferred to the passes through the Caucasus, on the other side of the Caspian, by the more fanciful historians of Alexander.”
“Josephus, a Jewish historian in the 1st century, is known to have written of Alexander's gates, designed to be a barrier against the Scythians. According to this historian, the people whom the Greeks called Scythians were known (among the Jews) as Magogites, descendants of Magog in the Hebrew Bible. These references occur in two different works. The Jewish War states that the iron gates Alexander erected were controlled by the king of Hyrcania (on the south edge of the Caspian), and allowing passage of the gates to the Alans (whom Josephus considered a Scythic tribe) resulted in the sack of Media. Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews contains two relevant passages, one giving the ancestry of Scythians as descendants of Magog son of Japheth, and another that refers to the Caspian Gates being breached by Scythians allied to Tiberius during the Armenian War.”[a][2]
“Jerome (translator of the Latin Vulgate), an Illyrian Christian apologist of the late 4th and early 5th centuries, affirms "the Jews of this age understood by Magog the vast and innumerable nations of Scythia, about Mount Caucasus, and the Palus Maeotis (Latin for Maeotis Sea), stretching along the Caspian Sea to India."
البروفسور ناثانيال ت.جينستون بالمرصاد على كل كذاب أشر في العالم كلامه صحيح تاريخياوعلميا
I think so. Because K and all his descendant best candidates for son of Japhet.
Haven't even read the article but any of us can be traced by to not only one of Noah's sons but to Noah himself.
LOL. Noah didnt exist.
@@matswessling6600Jesus said Noah existed. And Jesus is a real historic person.
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even if jesus existed that wouldnt count as evidencecfor noah.
its at best hearsay.
there is no good evidence that jesus ever existed.
This is nonsense. Ancient samples in the Levant are overwhelmingly E and J. Modern Jews and Arabs are overwhelmingly E and J. What are you talking about?
The Bible clearly records that the 12 tribes were scattered away from the land of Israel.
@worldofenigma1 perhaps but the paternal descent of the patriarchs of the torah are not going to be represented by a variety of y haplogroups but rather one y haplogroup.
Hi Dr. Jeanson, How do you use DNA for family connections?
How long are you going to promote this taughtology?
Im curious, when...where...did the MTHFR gene mutation begin? 2. Are those who have this mutation esentially all related?
You don't have to watch to know this a load of lies
Can this information be extracted from Ancestry DNA test?
I’d like to know this too mate 👍
I'm sure some young Earth creationist, somewhere along the line, has published an article somewhere using some 'sciency' sounding words claiming this information can be extracted from ancestry DNA testing.. perhaps AIG or ICR has mentioned it in one of their many pseudo-scientific articles.
you would have to transfer it to Family Tree DNA
I only need to know, I am part of the family of GOD.
What if a person doesn't have access to any Y in their family?
Just be a member of the Spiritual family by being born again, as in John 3.
Interesting that there is not one single article or paper published in any relevant science journals demonstrating that the claims made in this video are actually fact.
That's why he wrote a book, instead of publishing his work, like scientist do.
Do we care about facts? Or should we just go with our feelings and beliefs, and what we *want* to be fact?
Should we trust apologetics organizations when it comes to science?
@@labas9817 sure is :-) pseudo-scientific young earth creationist based genetics.. or something otherworldly like that. It's a shame, because apparently the guy is educated so he could actually contribute to the world of science in some way if he actually chose to do so. Pretty sure he's actually done some legitimate work in the past, but his book is just a mess :(
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Could there have been a group of people that survived the flood in some high caves and propagated in that part of the world?
I think Hopi natives have a story that otherworldly beings brought them into caves deep inside the Earth, in order to save them from an extinction-level event.....
Some of the Nephilim went underground, but no other human being survived besides the eight. Everyone on the earth is a descendant of the three sons of Noah and their wives.
I’ve always wondered why no one else on the entire earth had a big boat?
@@timothytrespasbecause the boat would be destroyed. The only reason why the ark even survived was because it was watched by God, God sealed it, God made sure it landed where it need to.
I always thought that the Asian people where Shem. Ending in Japan but spreading all over the globe. Heaven will be interesting to talk to the earliest humans.
According to Dr. Joshua Swamidass, "We share common ancestry with the great apes."
debunked
@@larrybarnett5799 how?
@@larrybarnett5799 humans are Apes. What do you mean, 'debunked'?
There's not a single peer-reviewed paper or article published in any science journal falsifying the fact that humans are Apes.
'Humans are classified in the sub-group of primates known as the Great Apes. Humans are primates, and are classified along with all other apes in a primate sub-group known as the hominoids (Superfamily Hominoidea). This ape group can be further subdivided into the Great Apes and Lesser Apes. Humans have bodies that are genetically and structurally very similar to those of the Great Apes and so we are classified in the Great Apes sub-group which is also known as the hominids (Family Hominidae)'
-- Australian Museum, and plenty of other reputable sources. Genetics and anthropology demonstrate these facts.
Ken Ham, it is mid-September, and a true prophet of God just now delivered a prophetic Word by the Holy Spirit on July 3, 2022, that you will be involved in a tremendous archeological discovery in the mountains of Tabal, in the "ridges of freedom", in Anatolia, i.e., in South Central Turkey. This area was the location of the ancient neo-Hitite kingdom. This is will be a most important project, and evidently God has you involved for His purposes. I hope you get this message. The prophet's name is Troy Black, and this Word was just released a very short time ago on UA-cam.
How do you explain the survival of the Australian Aborigines (just one example) that dates back hereditary, approximately 70,000 years in Y chromosome analysis almost going back to the TOBA event? The Aborigines must be survivors from the earth catastrophe of 1,000 years of cooling originating in Sumatra when TOBA blew roughly 74,000 years ago from present day when the earth’s population was brought down to less than 10,000 survivors by 20,000 square miles of debris that suffocated the entire planet. Who were the homo species before TOBA because there were survivors from earlier homo which based on DNA was roughly 10,000 humans left on the entire planet. Similarly there are are African tribes that predate the deluge by approximately 350,000 years! Explain that please? So irrespective of Noah flood or deluge was it really worldwide (no proof)that we can’t date accurately which has been touted by the status quo as between 6,000 BCE to 12,000 BCE as the date of the deluge is disputed by 6,000 years , making the Aboriginal race pre dating Noah by roughly 60,000 years? how can all Y chromosomes from your small sample and empirical data assume that all of us today trace back to only Noah as you stick to the theory that the Bible is accurate in Genesis 10 yet you miss other earlier origins. Plus you never mention the kings of Sumeria and Mesopotamia that predate the flood where the kingship have reigns of individual Anunnaki kings within 24,000 to 30,000 years. Case in point the origins of the perfect AD.AM married to TI.TI after homo was endowed with procreativity but not the lifespan of a Niribuvian took around 100,000 years. The book of Enoch in the Ethiopian Coptic Bible touches on the Eden and that Adam was a plurality like a Honda Accord and that man was created through at least 9 shars (3,600 earth years) of improvement and genetic refinement and that EN.KI the one anointed Lord or Deity for humans impregnated the latest and best homo hybrid female and it was this Adam we refer to in the Bible. I think your foundation of the level of assumptions where you define abstraction is pure quackery PhD or not!! Being a biblical absolutionist is catering to the flaws that the history of man belongs to the chosen people. The Bible is a manipulation of the Sumerian documents written long before Genesis was usurped by the Jews to place them at the head of the human tree. It’s baloney and for you to ignore the 8 tablets of ENKI and the true genealogy of the Anunnaki and their mining of gold in South Africa; the ABSU and the creation of homo man to become the hybridized (Chromosome 2) slaves of the Anunnaki and the wars of the God families on Nibiru and Mars (the Face) cannot be left out. Your data is wrong as are your conclusions ! Just like you bit the Apple 🍏 I’m not impressed
as far as the Bible says, they only go back 3 to4 thousand years ago
Given that we are all descendants of Noah, this shouldn't be a big surprise.
That's silly. There was a second ark, or really, I guess Noah's Ark was the second ark. A lot of those people you see in drawings being left by Noah (because actually he wasn't much of a sailor) got picked up by Utnapishtim. When the weather cleared up, Utnapishtim reported Noah to the maritime board.
@@byteme9718 i like it hahahhaa
Yeshua/Jesus is the only way to the Father...repent of sin and believe in him for eternal life...
Why won't Dr Jeanson publish his work for peer review? You know this goes against the entire legitimate scientific industry....He should make his case and defend it in the face of all those that have been doing this for a living. That's the standard protocol for science ya know.....
Because he has a Biblical view . The scientific community can read the Bible and read his book.
@@cortneyhavens lol, some have and destroy his assertions…..Jeanson will never, ever, publish his assertions because he knows that the scientific community, experts, scholars who do this for a living; will prove with documentation, that he is wrong, way wrong. Jeanson’s work is for the Christian community who need something to continue to prop up their faith.
@@KD-hi6hh LoL, K I have seen these people and they aren't Christian. They are argumentative and believe the earth has existed for millions and millions of years. They have no definitive scientific proof. You know why? LoL because science is not absolute or 💯 . His research is interesting and more believable than a pseudo science world view.
@@cortneyhavens "They have no definitive scientific proof" .....What planet do you live on !!?? You obviously don't study science do you (no disrespect)....There are acres and acres of scientific "proofs" of the expansion of sub atomic particles (Big Bang) and Evolution. Granted, there are no "absolutes" (except math) but the compilations of math equations, experiments, dating methods, Archeology, Geology, Anthropology etc...all describe & corroborate the scientific theories (not hypothesis) of 13.8 Billion year old universe and 4.5 Billion year old Earth. None of them, zilch, napa, zip - corooboarate a young Earth that Dr Jeanson is trying to push.
@@KD-hi6hh Or maybe they won't publish it because they don't want anything other than their worldview broadcasted.