@Dr.Unkown_420 I don't really have that much time to just play anymore but if you want to be in touch with me you can join our discord server. I'm active there
You dont need the smart modpack engine to decide stiffness, you can also use a gas engine. if you conect your gas engine to a logic gate & have a low power on it its going to put a bit of resistence, more power your give to the engine the more locked it is. if you just take a simple plate on wheels & put it on a hill with a gas engine at max power that is turned off, its not going to roll (maybe slide), but then if you decrease the engine power for less "brake force" (off is 0 brake)
You are right that engines create stiffness. But the problem is that when the bearings get rotated they don't want to come back to the beginning position. Sway bar basically acts like a spring in real life. Using engines is like using only dampers for your suspension without any springs. Yes it would make it harder to compress but when compressed it wouldn't have anything to push it back up. For a sway bar this would result in your car leaning to a side after you already exited a corner. Yes the suspension springs could combat this and make it somewhat leveled but for that the suspension would have to be really stiff and sway bar really soft to the point where you wouldn't even notice that there is any sway bar.
Using a controller would be better because of return to original position. However the point of the double wishbone is keeping the wheels completely vertical and independent
Method #1: The controller is very stiff, and cannot be tuned for performance in vannila. Method #2: Very interesting. But it has no tuneability. Method #3: This has tunability, soft stiffness, and is perfect. But you can use WAY less bearings on the top bar by using ONE link wich will eliminate 2 unneeded bearings. You can also make more compact mechanisms by rearranging parts differently. For even more suspention performance, I lile to combine the sway bar with active camber created by differently angled suspention arms. Pauglin taught me that.
I don't really understand what do you mean by removing the 2 unneeded bearings. Would you mind joining my discord and sharing a picture? Or just count the bearings from the bottom up and tell me which ones. The method #1 has use only when you want a very stiff sway bar and have a very heavy vehicle The method #2 is very similar to that, but I actually use it sometimes when I don't have enough space to fit springs in there. Method #3 = the best method (unless you want to use the modular controller from the modpack)
I built a a sprint offroader and I have its suspension tuned where it still maintains independent traction. But loses none of its turning ability or stability. Been working on the shrunk suspension model.
can we play scrap mechanic so i can show you the suspension i made its actually good and really simple tough i am sure these are better but the ones that i have created work really well i would like to show them to you
Probably not, I don't enjoy playing survival in its current state. Everything's just a huge grind and you can't even get fuel automation. To build anything small you have to grind for like 6 hours at least. I just don't enjoy the survival mode because of this
You can do whatever you want. For offroad and baja oriented thingies I usually only put it in the rear but for performance oriented supercars i put it both in the front and in the back
You can also make the sway bar less stiff by moving the mounting point on the wishbone closer to car's center.
Have you played in survival? Would love to help you out and possibly the other way around?
@Dr.Unkown_420 I don't really have that much time to just play anymore but if you want to be in touch with me you can join our discord server. I'm active there
this definetly earned my sub. keep these types of videos coming :D
thanks, this is so useful!
I watch a lot of kAN gaming but you explained me a lot of things he uses thanks :) subbed
You dont need the smart modpack engine to decide stiffness, you can also use a gas engine.
if you conect your gas engine to a logic gate & have a low power on it its going to put a bit of resistence, more power your give to the engine the more locked it is.
if you just take a simple plate on wheels & put it on a hill with a gas engine at max power that is turned off, its not going to roll (maybe slide), but then if you decrease the engine power for less "brake force" (off is 0 brake)
You are right that engines create stiffness. But the problem is that when the bearings get rotated they don't want to come back to the beginning position.
Sway bar basically acts like a spring in real life.
Using engines is like using only dampers for your suspension without any springs. Yes it would make it harder to compress but when compressed it wouldn't have anything to push it back up. For a sway bar this would result in your car leaning to a side after you already exited a corner. Yes the suspension springs could combat this and make it somewhat leveled but for that the suspension would have to be really stiff and sway bar really soft to the point where you wouldn't even notice that there is any sway bar.
Using a controller would be better because of return to original position. However the point of the double wishbone is keeping the wheels completely vertical and independent
Keep up the super informative videos!
earned my sub
I've managed to shrink this system almost in a half, great stuff for front axle - steering awesome. Back axle don't need sway bar, only for drift
please send a link to your design
Your tuto is very nice.
Kinda diggin the new channel art and pfp tho
Yeah I don't know what I was thinking with the new pfp tho. Looks stupid lol
nice video!
You can use a level 1 controller as well because that's less stiff than for example level 4
Method #1: The controller is very stiff, and cannot be tuned for performance in vannila.
Method #2: Very interesting. But it has no tuneability.
Method #3: This has tunability, soft stiffness, and is perfect. But you can use WAY less bearings on the top bar by using ONE link wich will eliminate 2 unneeded bearings.
You can also make more compact mechanisms by rearranging parts differently.
For even more suspention performance, I lile to combine the sway bar with active camber created by differently angled suspention arms. Pauglin taught me that.
I don't really understand what do you mean by removing the 2 unneeded bearings. Would you mind joining my discord and sharing a picture? Or just count the bearings from the bottom up and tell me which ones.
The method #1 has use only when you want a very stiff sway bar and have a very heavy vehicle
The method #2 is very similar to that, but I actually use it sometimes when I don't have enough space to fit springs in there.
Method #3 = the best method (unless you want to use the modular controller from the modpack)
@@Pauglin Sorry. I Just figured now that it is just shaped differently. I counted wrong. Lol, Im stupid.
When are we getting more awesome content and tutorials? We miss you 😎
One day hopefully
I hope everything is OK my friend?
@@theryrox yes, everything is fine but right now there are other things that I'm focused on
this was so helpfull
thx
Can you make a video on camber with doeble wishbone pls
New Videos? and maaaybe a sport car tutorial from you please?🙏🏼
Wow Very Nice
I built a a sprint offroader and I have its suspension tuned where it still maintains independent traction. But loses none of its turning ability or stability. Been working on the shrunk suspension model.
Thank you!
can we play scrap mechanic so i can show you the suspension i made its actually good and really simple tough i am sure these are better but the ones that i have created work really well i would like to show them to you
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Nice table.
Will you play survial mode, too?
Probably not, I don't enjoy playing survival in its current state. Everything's just a huge grind and you can't even get fuel automation. To build anything small you have to grind for like 6 hours at least. I just don't enjoy the survival mode because of this
It's ok. I was just curious
epic
Came we make frond wheels of a car and back wheels on different suspensions
Yes, I usually have double wishbone in the front and articulated solid axle in the rear
yes
Yes
@@Pauglin Yup
@@Retrodogo no
Do I have to put it up front?
You can do whatever you want. For offroad and baja oriented thingies I usually only put it in the rear but for performance oriented supercars i put it both in the front and in the back
@@Pauglin Thanks
Many drift setups irl will have no front sway bar.
Yes, I meant to say rear sway bar. Rear sway bar creates oversteer, front sway bar creates understeer
thx
np
I actually kinda liked it better when you just gave us the text instead of you talking
The thing is that adding the text is much more work and I don't have time for that. I like it better too
My pc vey lag hahahahaha
thats alot of bearings.
i use this setup steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1095761480
I dont understand why make this?
A lot of body roll makes it hard to corner and makes the car less stable on smooth roads