Should A Doctor Who & Star Trek Crossover Happen?
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Technically a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover has already happened via comics with Assimilation². Which featured the 11th doctor, Amy and Rory teaming up with TNG and the 4th doctor teaming up with TOS against a combined cyberman and Borg threat.
Yes but a live-action crossover could be good
I remember when this happened I was very excited. I have mixed feelings over a live action crossover of any kind.
There is one that predates by 30 years ago in Fantasy and Empire magazine.
All this has happened before, and it will all happen again --J.M. Barrie & the Cylons
@@0u70fSync - If you think a live action crossover could be good then you have no taste at all. Let's have the Doctor jump into "Measure of a Man" and start telling jokes - that wouldn't ruin things at all would it?
Lt Littlechild's 'Janeway' hairdo is strong.
We can’t even get Star Trek itself to stay on Paramount+ the only way there would ever be a crossover is if Disney actually buys Star Trek and I very much hope that never happens!
What does Disney have to do with it? Thats like saying the only way to get a Godzilla vs Kong crossover is if AMC Theaters purchased the two characters. Disney is simply the venue showcasing the program
@@ChrisMcCarroll well BBC does retain the rights to the show, you’d have to be pretty naïve to not think that Disney doesn’t have some kind of influence over the show even if it’s not officially part of the production.
@@GeekFilter you are right. BBC owns Doctor Who. Yes, Disney does have some basic influence. But Disney does not own, or have creative control, or any rights other than broadcasting
I concur.
@@ChrisMcCarroll If a crossover were to happen it will require it to be shown somewhere, so those who currently have the rights to show the current series would certainly be involved even if they aren't involved in producing the crossover.
Wesley's a Time Lord.
I mean yea but he kinda was always a timelord.
Indeed 🖖
A Time Lord that got up off his couch, drove across town, and shot a few minutes for the end of Picard s.2, yeah :)
I was underwhelmed by his appearance in that. Wesley needed more.
Turns out Wesley became the timeless child…
As is Guinan
A filmed crossover would be a shark-jumping moment.
I liked the comic with the 11th meeting the TNG crew (and in that one there was a flashback of the 4th meeting the original series crew). I’m fine with that for head-cannon. If it was done, Lower Decks would be the easiest, but doubtful now that it was not renewed. However, Lower Deck crew would be good at running!
Aaand, Gary Seven has a sonic screwdriver.
True, Gary totally does. Curious how many versions of the Doctor they might have met over time
No.
It's already been done twice, in a format that made it optimally fun and believable, the comics, with versions of the ST crews that were worthy (The Prime Universe). To do it live action now, especially with the current Star Trek properties, would cheapen both, in my opinion.
To quote the wise one, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
The possible exception would be the charity option, where it's not canon to either series. Just something fun. Then I could get behind it.
If there was a crossover, it has to be John de Lancie's Q appearing in the Tardis being his usual omnipotent self mocking Timelords.
Honestly, as an enjoyer of Dr. Who and Lover of Trek, a crossover would be a fun galactic romp
I know that a Dr Who / Blake's 7 crossover WAS proposed to the BBC in the early 1980's, by Gareth Thomas - Roj Blake himself!
Scene: Two men pass each other in a corridor, the viewer would be unclear whether it was on the TARDIS or the Liberator.
Doctor: Morning Blake
Blake: Morning Doctor
End scene
The big problem I think with epic crossovers of major properties like this is, if it ever happens, the writers, the producers, everyone, would have to bring their A game. It would have to be every bit as epic and meaningful to both franchises as we expect it to be. It can't be a lark. Trek and Who have had some wonderful stories over the years, but they've both had their share of turkeys too. This can't be a turkey. It has to be good. Which I think is liable to kill any ambition the production teams might have. If they feel during the story stage that they can't pull off a properly meaningful event, they'd probably just scrap it.
The Doctor had a lunch meeting with Lucille Ball because he’s such a big fan of I Love Lucy. She talks about this failed pilot about a wagon train to the stars. Doctor lets slip some IRL Trek stuff & she’s inspired & orders a new pilot
Hope this never happens. We are trying to save Star Trek not drag it down with Doctor Who. I’ve been a Doctor Who fan since Eccleston. Sadly I’m not impressed with the latest series so far. I want it to do well , but I got spoiled with David Tennant’s Doctor.
Star Trek has has a rough ride. Except for SNW the most recent series have had stellar final seasons., although their early seasons were lacking at times. These series are gone or will be soon. Please don’t destroy Star Trek with this crossover nonsense. This is just my opinion. I’m sure there are others who would love this to happen.
Thank you for mentioning the Silurians = Voth. Been saying that since Voyager first aired.
So luitenant commander Data and 3CPO walk into a bar.... What's next???
I would love the see the Doctor say "Shut up, Wesley!"
No, because of different genres. Dr. Who is fantasy with elements of sci-fi (sometimes strong sci-fi elements in an episode like "Boom"). Star Trek stems from pulp sci-fi traditions. The science of Trek can be admittedly "wibbly-wobbly ". There have always been fantasy elements in Trek - a case can be made that Trelane and Q are fantasy elements. Still, I'm not wild about Trek going total fantasy.
Personally I’d say a crossover with The Orville would be more feasible as Disney own it already, and as good as it would be to have Star Trek like characters turn up in Doctor Who it would be messy with the rights due to Paramount owning Star Trek and not likely to play nice with costs
Anything to get more Orville
I miss The Orville 😔
1) TNG episode of the girl who had Q parents and didn't know. Q showed up when her powers manifested.
2) from the other room I heard my partner shout "Please don't make Ncuti a Q!"
Would be interesting if the Q Continuum are familiar with Time Lords, or Gallifrey. Or always knew, all along. Possibly even had communications, connections, or even more
Oh hell no!
@@kadosho02the Q could probably bring Gallifrey's people back.
@@FiXato now that is a fascinating idea, they definitely have the power to do so
There absolutely should be a crossover, and it has to feature Star Trek’s temporal agents chasing The Doctor who is completely unaware of them while he fixes some other completely random unrelated thing alongside which ever crew he’s mixing it up with.
The issue is Disney+ vs Paramount+
I agree that IF it happens it would be for Red Nose Day or something like that for Charity
TARDIS materializes in the 1701's Engineering and Pelia recognizes it and just goes "oh great, why is he here?" or something along those lines.
Bruh, The Doctor vs Q is a series finale right there.
I'm actually quite surprised you didn't talk about the comics where Doctor Who and Star Trek crossed over already. It was a comics miniseries, and it was kind of a twofer because you got Ten and Picard as well as Four and Kirk simultaneously. Also the way it was explained was very satisfying. I liked it anyway
To me, when the Companion asked "is that like Star Trek", it was stating that Star Trek is a show in the Doctor Who universe. So maybe the Doctor (Who) wants to visit the Star Trek sets. They could have an episode where the Star Trek cast guest stars as themselves.
I also remember reading something sometime way back that basically said that any created fictional universe actually pops into existence somewhere. So it would be very cool to be able to jump between those different universes.
Wouldnt there need to have been the Eugenics war for them to exist in the same universe? This has never been mentioned by The Doctor
The Doctor keeps stopping it off screen. That’s why it keep moving forward in time.
@@Bubblesthewitchexplains SNW
Wouldn't be the first time the Doctor traveled to a different universe
I've often thought StarTrek could make Holodecks more profitable, and I mean that literally.
I first had this thought back in the Voyager days. I could totally see Tom and Harry playing Ratchet & Clank.
Dr. Who could cameo in the same way as Moriarty. He's a holodeck character that figured it out. And, in this format, it could be ANY living Doctor.
I know it’s been done in comics. I don’t think I’d want it to cross over into live action though.
I've had a theory that the character of Wesley Crusher was based off of Gene Roddenberry and he was actually a traveler that came back in time to try and set us on a right path.
Star trek exists fictionally in the world of doctor who, but hitchhikers guide is part of the same universe, Douglas Adams being a doctor who writer(some of his books were unused doctor who story premises modified) and also a the 10th made a reference to having met Arthur Dent.
I think it could be comical in a sense to have BOTH be fiction in the other one's universe... i.e. Dr Who is a Holodeck program that in its typical way, gets out of control and an episode of Dr Who where they end up on the set of the Enterprise in California taking on some real alien threat. Trying to make both fictions "real" could end up being a disaster.
I would have it so that the TARDIS materializes on the Enterprise. The Enterprise crew recognize the Doctor as being from this old TV show. The Doctor and his companion recognize the Enterprise crew as being from the TV show Star Trek. The plot of the episode would be about them teaming up to discover how two seeming fictional shows can be real. There would be debates over which TV show is the real one and which one is made up.
3 way crossover with Galaxy Quest?👀
If they did do a straight up cross over where the tardis lands on the enterpise and meets captain pike, kirk whoever, why not just state beforehand it isnt necessarily set in either the trek or whoniverse, its its own thing. You dont have to worry about contradicting cannon and just go along with the fun of seeing these 2 shows meet.
A Community / Cougar Town type crossover would be fun. The Doctor visits the set of Star Trek under the guise of being an actor to save the actors from an unknown threat. He appears in the background of a SNW episode as an “extra” actor like Abed did in Cougar Town.
Also, remember in Enterprise they did encounter a ship that was bigger on the inside. So maybe that ship was Time Lord technology.
You guys should do a whole video on story ideas for this and ask people for their ideas it would be such a fun video.
There was a Trek/WHO crossover on video from a chap called "Kelvington" Where the 9th Doctor visited the TOS Enterprise!
It was pretty cool!
I would think of someone of the Toymakers childs to be able to put the Doctor in a TV Show and the Doctor needs to find a way out, and by testing out, he somehow jumps through TV Shows and somehow lands in Star Trek where he would be able to use the technology of Star Trek to escape. That would be my Idea...
Would be a fun multi arc or two part episode
I want to put an idea out there. Robert A Heinlein wrote a storey in the late 80's called the Number Of The Beast. The essential premiss of the book is that fiction, if read by enough minds can creat that reality. So the stories of OZ, The Grey Lensman stories, The bible all exist as realities in which the portaganists travel through and have adventures in. This could be a premiss to the current stories fo Dr Who. Fantasy becomes reality if enough people believe!
I'd like to see a cross over in which the Pike Enterprise and the Doctor find themselves marooned in the timeless void. Having it timeless would mean no one but the Doctor would remember, but then they can could just dive in and go hammers.
Imagine La'an Noonien Singh dealing with a doe-eyed Ruby Sunday...
Except for visiting the set, the only thing I could see happening (also with what Paramount might let happen), would be The Doctor trying to take the TARDIS somehow into another multiverse (or omniverse) to save another companion (so Series Two) from the big bad or what-have-you. They have a rough landing on a planet and the Doctor opens the doors just a crack to peek outside. Audibly we hear, sampled from the "City on the Edge of Forever", Spock referencing the temporal readings of the Guardian, implying it's suggesting that Spock is scanning the TARDIS. The Doctor quickly closes the doors as Ruby asks, "What is it?" The Doctor looks at her, pauses, then says, "Wrong multiverse." And immediately forces the TARDIS to leave as if he's afraid of what could happen.
Both franchises do cross into different universes as necessary. I'm all for it!
I've always been of the thought that a live action crossover would severely damage the suspension of disbelief for both franchises, but now, in the era of Subspace Rhapsody, and everything RTD is doing to make Doctor Who weird again, now might be the time it could work.
The best way to keep the continuity of both series intact would be to have the doctor go back to the 60s. In the middle of civil rights strife in california, the doctor comes across a Hollywood screenwriter named Gene. Gene somehow gets swept up with the doctor and the tardis into Earth's future which loosely resembles the Star Trek universe with some recognizable characters but clearly some societal strife and problems that they're struggling to correct. Along the way Gene comes across several races of Doctor who aliens and societies. Ultimately, Gene returns to his own time and struggling with everything he's now just learned, decides to try and write it into his own storyline of a more refined and perfect future which ends up giving us the Star Trek that we know.
I love the infinitely slow weeks when you have to do a post like this
“Every story ever told really happened. Stories…are where memories go when they’re forgotten.”
Story idea: When the Master found out the Doctor is not from that universe, he realized that means the Doctor is unique to that universe. Alternative universes don't have another Doctor. Since the Doctor always defeats him, he decided to conquer other universes instead, and he started with the universe where Star Trek is real. He started the Temporal Wars. He is the holographic person from the future, never seen clearly in Star Trek Enterprise.
He caused a problem for the Sphere Builders in their universe, causing them to invade the Star Trek universe. They found out the Master actually came from another universe (the Whoniverse), so they combined their DNA with a humanoid (maybe specifically a HUMAN from Earth) to create the Timeless Child. They wanted Tecteun to raise the Timeless Child to eventually defeat the Master. This would mean that Timelords are our descendants.
The Doctor accidentally released the Toymaker and his children, and some of them went to the Star Trek universe and became the Q. And maybe the Cybermen used a void ship to go to the Star Trek universe (in the past) and became the Borg. Maybe the reason the Q (Toymaker's children) fear the Borg (Q told his son "DONT PROVOKE THE BORG") is because the Borg (formerly Cybermen) learned the secret of how to banish them from the universe again.
And in today's episode of Discovery, the Progenitor's Structure behaves like a TARDIS. They said it's an entry to another dimension, and seems to be bigger on the inside. Maybe Section 31 got ahold of the Progenitor's Structure and learned to build more...then they decided to move to another universe and experiment on that other universe. When they moved to that other universe (the Whoniverse), they met Tecteun. At the time they met, Tecteun had just learned to give people Regeneration, and Section 31 had a TARDIS. They worked together to start the Timelord civilization, and they renamed Section 31 to "The Division". Maybe "The Other" in Timelord history was someone from Section 31...maybe Empress Georgiou.
If all of this was written into one story, it would mean that the Whoniverse AND the Trek universe are the way we know them now because they both changed each other's pasts. There might even be a predestination paradox involved. This would be much more complicated (and interesting) than just having the cast of one show VISIT the other show for 2 hours.
Now that is not a bad concept idea
I would love a cross-over. It could be a two episode event. One ep on Doctor Who, the other on whichever Star Trek show is then running.
Or a cross-over movie.
It'd have to be a charity thing, after all, 29thC Starfleet wanted to blow Voyager to bits for a temporal fudge-up that wasn't actulaly their doing, so 29thC Starfleet would be sending the entire fleet after the tardis to stop the doc from constantly fudging up the past, present and future, cos he's a bigger temporal menace than starships named Enterprise... :P
In Star Trek Enterprise, they came close or a slight nod to Doctor Who when Captain Archer and crew encountered what looked like an escape pod then realized it was and Archer quoted saying it's"bigger on the inside"
Why not? So long as both series' characters are given equal screen time, and, most importantly, the Story and Script best showcase both Star Trek and the Doctor, then by all means, Make it So.
It should be a children in need special minisode.
The TARDIS Materializes on the bridge of whichever ship chose (the enterprise would be my pick) and riffs with the characters before disappearing again, leaving most of the crew confused.
what we need is the Orville / Galaxy Quest crossover
they could do a cross over using the holodeck, kind of like in voyager when they did captain proton. it think strange new worlds would be a good choice to do a cross over because its just goofy enough of a show were some like that wouldn't be out of place for them. granted they don't have holodeck's in that show.
Seems crazy that Enterprise was still going when Eccleston was The Doctor... and Disco was a return after being away for an age...
This makes me think of Terry Nation's other show: Blake's 7. There was a notion of having The Doctor and Blake run past each other in a corridor with a wave, but the executives running the shows vetoed that.
I think a Star Wars crossover would be more likely because of Disney, and the TARDIS could be sent to a galaxy far, far away and a long time ago...
I think this points at something weirder in DW. They've been breaking the 4th wall -including the Doctor hearing non-diegetic music- and I suppose that if the Doctor recognizes the fictional nature of his world, that puts all of fiction into continuity with Doctor Who. They could cross over with Star Trek or literally anything else.
It would be very cool but needs to be superbly written!
This would slot into Strange New Worlds perfectly.
Besides the “Assimilation” crossover comics, I know there have been other DW-related things in Trek, like the Classic Doctor actors named in “The Neutral Zone” at the end of TNG season 1. But, there was also that time ship in an episode of “Enterprise” which was bigger on the inside. I think that a proper, full crossover would have to be with the Doctor appearing in Trek, rather than some sort of reason where characters from Trek go over to DW. I definitely think it could work, especially with the most recent DW season doing a lot where they’re breaking down the walls of reality, the multiverse etc. Even the Doctor commenting on the score for the show, along with 4th wall breaks. At the absolute very least, they could do it in animation, as they could even bring back the older casts.
I would have enjoyed seeing this on Lower Decks as a holodeck episode with Rutherford testing a program after making an upgrade. The Doctor gets connected as a holodeck character and has to create a mobile emitter on the fly to help Rutherford with whatever bigger problem happens to the ship. Rutherford and company would think he was just a holodeck character and they might get a damaged prototype mobile emitter at the end when The Doctor breaks the connection. And with that The Doctor ends up helping The Doctor without anyone realizing it. Feel free to use this somehow. I just love the possible shenanigans that would happen.
Yes, the Doctor as a holodeck character would be the only way it would work, especially if he got deleted.
Try this though, a Dalek gets holodecked, finds a mobile emitter, escapes the holodeck, and creates real Daleks with Borg technology....
The only way I could see it possibly working is if The Doctor goes back to when they’re making TOS in the sixties, as a fan of the show, only to discover that Gene Roddenberry is in fact another time traveller who is attempting to seed humanity’s future by giving them a co-cooperative and utopian vision of what humanity could become.
When looking at who could help the writing team with a crossover, I'm surprised you didn't bring up Una McCormack or David McIntee, who have each written both Star Trek and Doctor Who novels.
Don't tell Ellie but the Library where River ended up is in its own fantasy reality universe program and if fantasy is now reality........... Yep the Library Doctor could pop up 😂😂
One major issue with the theory that fantasy becomes reality is there would have to be a major shift in current Earth history in order to the Trek universe to exist. The Eugenics Wars, WW3, literally the end of the world as we know it in order for it to be rebuilt after the Vulcans arrive following the invention of warp drive in 39 years..Well, you know the backstory. The problem is that modern Who has always kept stories set in the present rooted in current history, merely adding an additional event. For everything to change so suddenly would take a being so powerful even the Doctor wouldn't have a chance of winning.
They should crossover with the DS9/TOS crossover, and save the Tribbles 😂
For a few episodes, a mini-crossover would be awesome to watch. Maybe have John de Lancie "Q" being the instigator of Doctor Who and the crew of the Enterprise meeting in a time somewhere. Ellie is a sweet lovely woman to have on your shows.
I don't know how I feel about this. I both want it and don't want it at the same time.
Steve Austin A.K.A. The Six Million Dollar Man was the first Borg LOL
12:46 there was a whole episode in David Tennant’s tenure (no pun intended) about that concept.
Given that cheeky stuff in TNG, it would have been interesting if Sylvester McCoy had turned up on the Enterprise D. He rather fits it, to my way of thinking. The trouble is, Star Trek is so much about the human endeavour, you can't really have an alien waltzing in and potentially solving everything. Unless he gets rescued, of course.
Since Star Trek has a multiverse, all you need is one or the other to hop dimensions, go on a romp, then get the one home with a heartfelt "until we meet again."
There was a Star Trek short story that involved a variation of the accident that caused Kirk to visit the mirror universe instead causing Kirk and some other Enterprise crew members to exchange places with the actors playing them on Star Trek. So a Doctor Who episode involving some Doctor Who aliens as clueless as the aliens in Galaxy Quest crashing the production of a Star Trek series thinking it's a documentary series with Doctor Who then having to set things right with the help of one or more Star Trek cast members would be an interesting idea.
The other possibility along those lines would be for a Federation crew member having a holodeck Doctor Who adventure which then has the real Doctor Who show up in the actual TARDIS causing typical holodeck malfunctional hilarity.
The only thing really stopping them: corporate IPs and licensing. Paramount is about to be sold off, likely to Sony from what we hear, so it would be in their ballpark to negotiate with Disney and/or the Beeb on that one. Sounds like an utter mess, and would it really be worth it to them to do all that for one episode or 2?
David Gerrold would be a good source of ideas as he has already written for both shows.
Ironic that a Star Trek original series shuttle that crashed and a Dr. Who and Tardis have both appeared in earlier versions of Fallout.
I like the “science fiction being prophesy” angle. Original Buck Rogers had a jet pack. NASA used jet packs for Space Shuttle missions. Fiction becomes fact! 😊
The Doctor did mention stopping by. 😂
He was just talking about the studio where Star Trek is filmed.
Honestly, I'd say a Who/Lower Decks crossover would be most appropriate.
Love the housecoat, very Arthur Dent, now there was a nice man. Still waiting on that crossover
_Star Trek_ has been referenced on _Doctor Who_ --- OTOH The Doctor and Clara visited "Robin Hood". So maybe a crossover could happen that turns out to be fictional characters brought into existence temporarily.
If you wanted it to crossover I think the best way is having one of the shows being 'fictional'. Simple idea, In Dr Who the human race learns to travel and colonise most of space, so an alien race tries to stop them, one of the ways could be to disrupt a TV show called 'Star Trek' that had a driving influence. Something could happen to an actor, all actors or just the set itself that might a disrupting effect or have a special reason to go to that location. Someone is watching 'star trek' and they call it 'mavity plating or gravity plating' Doctor goes to investigate why it is they are calling it gravity plating when that word should not exist anymore
Why is it that no one at TrekCulture or WhoCulture EVER mention the timeship found in Star Trek: Enterprise that was bigger on the inside
As far as resolving the hang-up of Star Trek seemingly being both a known work of fiction within the Whoverse while also being an actual reality out there, something that could be said of universes across the multiverse is that, hey, these are places that have either been literally created wholecloth by the work of one or a collection of persons' imagination and writing, or maybe somehow images of an existing universe pops into someone's mind one day (interpreting it as ideas just suddenly springing to mind), and every flash of inspiration for stories within that universe are things that have already unfolded there.
Probably still convoluted n' such, but something I always thought about in general even before all this came up. (Heck, maybe there could be a meta joke thrown in there somewhere with the Doctor deliberately breaking the fourth wall for a moment or two, speaking about his universe being fiction in someone else's universe. Dumb thought, but somethin' silly maybe.)
16:57 wasn’t it you guys who pointed out the original seven Doctors names were briefly on a screen during TNG season one?
A crew lands on a planet and they walk by a Blue Police Box.
Could you imagine if the long-rumoured origins of the Borg turns out to be "They're Cybermen"? Or that the Timeless Child was a Q...
I jumped the gun a bit with that second part XD
I once wrote a story called Boundary Jump that had the TARDIS, the original and STTNG Enterprise, Red Dwarf and the Liberator crossing the boundary of existance and facing off against an army of killer clangers. As uou might guess, it wasn't a totally serious story.
Did the Soup Dragon put something in the Clangers' soup? 😁
As always, thank you so very much to all the cultured folks for the videos.
I would love to see a crossover, especially as a few actors in the recent serieses of Doctor Who have been in both, Orla Brady and David Ajala for example.
IMO it is far far more likely given the involvement of the evil mouse that there would be a Doctor Who and Star Wars crossover.
Personally - I think a young Groot running around the Tardis would be friggin hilarious so I'd probably prefer that IP instead.
It’s already happened. Have you guys never read IDW graphic novel Assimilation 2 ??? The TARDIS lands on the Holodeck.
Both of the shows have referenced or employed some sort of "null space" that exists "in between" whatever (as in when Burnham encountered the ISS Enterprise) right?
So if you want them to meet, have them encounter each other in such a null space. maybe there's a planet that got trapped in there and they have to work together to save those people?
Seems a neat way to have them in the same story but NOT ultimately in the same universe (potentially, each are a fictional world in the other's reality - there's a long history of a trope in SF of "every fictional universe is actually a real universe somewhere" so...there ya go.
I could see it working on Lower Decks (maybe a LD Short Trek) with them loading up a Holodeck program based on an old British TV show. I think it would only be fair to make the Doctor fictional in the Trek universe since Who has made Trek fictional in theirs.
I just want to say Ellie's make-up was especially on point for this episode.
I think in the late 80's or early 90' there was a piece of fan fiction available at the cons called "The Doctor and The Enterprise". I believe it was the Tom Baker doctor (I can't remember the companion) and the TARDIS somehow crossed over into the Star Trek Universe. Seems like the Doctor described where Galifrey was and they looked it up in the Star Fleet star charts and discovered a planet there but it was uninhabited. It might have been a mirror universe sort of thing. Anyway, general craziness ensued while they tried to get the Doctor back to his proper place.
I think that a crossover could be really fun, but I agree it needs to be like Children in Need or something like that.
Depending on your opinion on that execrable Dimensions in Time anniversary special and whether it's canon, East Enders doesn't just exist fictionally in the Doctor Who universe, it exists properly in the Doctor Who universe. But perhaps that is best just forgotten. :) (Sorry I know that wasn't the main thrust of this discussion, but East Enders was referenced.)
I can see it being done well but a lot of things have to go right to make it worth it.