I just picked up a black NC3 Club just like this one. Paid -10k less than an ND, and I can use that money to mod it any way I like. Couldn't be happier
My first ever and only Miata is a ‘13 Club soft top in pearl white and I just love the car. I could grab a new one but I honestly like my NC better. I don’t care much about the tech upgrades with the ND’s, RF’s or the ‘24. My NC sort of reminds me of my of my old ‘69 TR6 Triumph. I bought the NC in 2021 and just don’t see myself parting with it anytime soon.
The difference in weight between an NC3 club with a manual and an ND3 RF with a manual is less than 100 lbs. Some NCs are just above 2,500lbs, all the soft top NCs are below 2,600lbs. The ND RFs are listed between 2450 and almost 2, 500 (auto I would imagine). The ND soft top with a manual is under 2,400lbs. So the weight differences are significant but not super big. That the ND has as many features it has and weighs what is does is impressive. Honestly true of the NC also since it is more spacious inside and a little bigger all around and still very light. Both pretty amazing for modern vehicles that are relatively affordable. I do love hydraulic steering but don't remember feeling it all that much in the NC the one time I drove it. Missed the steering feel in a ND2 I spent a lot of time in but it was still great overall. I haven't driven a stock NB but I drove a highly modified one that was a blast on curvy mountain roads. All depends on how fresh the suspension components and tires are in terms of feel. Have driven two different NAs, a tired one that felt pretty bad and a dialed in one that was a blast. I would say that the NC and ND will be more fun on a mountain where you need a bit more power just to get going.
Owned all 4 series- nb is most raw unadulterated fun but not really practical in the elements-I had a horse ranch near Yosemite & with a/c on during 105 plus temps?😂 I wore a bandana & coppertone & had the best tan in the area🎉🎉
Agreed, any Miata is a great choice. Mine is a 2007 NC manual. I've turned it into a little beast with the extra power this car has always deserved. The driving experience has been transformed. I would highly recommend all of the upgrades I've made: 2.5 litre engine swap, coil overs, full 2.5 inch Roastersport exhaust including exhaust manifold, and wider rims (17x8) with 225-45/17 tires. Such an amazing transformation. Fell in love with my car all over again. Sway bars and alignment are next upgrades.
Modern muscle car driver for the last 20 years… always was tempted by light weights. The ND RF looking like it did and being convertible pushed me over the edge. I use it as a daily driver. I went with 10kg front 4kg rear Feals. But I live on a mountain with hard turns every single day. It’s not too bad but if you go with stiff coilovers it needs to have a quality actual shock system that’s adjustable. Otherwise a quality softer coilover like you have is nice too. I have some bracing and it made it very feel able on each wheel. Good review.
Nc all the way,the most tuned mod miata than all the others,chassi is far away better than others,it’s a smaller Rx8.I have a NC 2.5 full forged turbocharged with 500+ hp and the car is so freaking 🚀 with 1100kg and 500+ hp and 71 torque you don’t need more believe me🎉
True but it’s also had a lot of time for tuners to research and develop parts for. Give the ND the same time; this is me grasping at straws. That being said I’m sure your NC is an absolute riot!
@@VictorPitstop ND is a beautiful miata but he have (soft)transmission and skyactive engine is not so tunable,for sure you can make 250-280hp but…almost you touch the limits of the engine and the transmission.
@@SaDu-sb3si anything can be helped with money. Walther performance builds stronger synchros but for a price of course. There’s also the option to swap an NC transmission as well for much cheaper.
NC3 has been fun, fun, fun. When bought/adopted in 2017, it had 15k miles. It is not only the most fun but also the most reliable car I have ever owned. (Senior here.) Drive Defensively like you're riding a motorcycle.
You asked about mod suggestions... Assuming your 2024 MX-5 is new, or still has some warranty remaining (if used), drive it stock until you learn all you can about it. Early mods may void your warranty. Also, you may find your taste in mods differs from your friends, plus your mod options may increase as your vendors learn more and finer tune their offerings. Once you buy into a mod, you are stuck with it until you update (junk) it. Finally, while you may consider the car a "blank canvas", it is what it is for lots of time-tested engineering reasons. Inserting a seemingly innocent mod might impact other car parts negatively. Imagining you can out smart experienced engineers who have been fine tuning things for (say) 30+ years... well, show some hubris. My 2 cents... M 🥴 BTW: I have a 2015 NC3 GT PRHT Jet Black Mica garage queen. My mods are tires and touch points.... love it. 🔥🔥🔥
@@jjchockey sure, but as long as your not going to immediately turbo or supercharge it, it’s fine. I also don’t think you’ll immediately need power right away so you can learn the platform. Researching the vin helps identify the version of trans as well. If you’re wrenching on your cars which I hope most Miata owners do, you can find a used V5 trans for ~$1,500.
I really want an NC3. I have an NA and I'll keep it, but the NC3 would be my new fun daily/autocross car. Just hoping I can pick one up before they get too expensive. Add the new FM turbo kit and it would be more than quick enough for me while still handling great (albeit not as great as the ND).
As a Miata owner who has had a belly full of these instant automotive journalists - hundreds of them! - who exploit the popularity of my beloved sports car as a way to draw viewers to their sad little channels, I say enough! Now when that algorithm notifies me of another daily dozen Miata “reviews” I click in each the option that informs UA-cam I want to see nada from this channel ever again. If you want to know all about this special car’s history, The Savage Geese put the rest of UA-cam to shame.
My iPhone 14 Pro fit perfectly in the phone space below my ND2's climate controls, and now the ND3 has wireless CarPlay and AA, so no cords necessary. Why would you need to mount a phone holder elsewhere in your car? It's perfect as is.
My 2008 NC1 (GT model with 6MT and PRHT) is the most fun car I have owned. It’s a fantastic car, lots of fun. The ND interior is not as spacious as the NC interior. It feels narrower, and closer in, than the NC.
The NC3 PRHT (power retractable hard top) weighs 2593LBS (around 2480 with the soft top), while the ND3 RF weighs 2452LBS. I owned a 2014 NC3 PRHT, and now own an ND2 soft top, and I definitely miss the feel/feedback of the hydraulic power steering vs electric.
@@colinbowman8816 You are correct that there isn’t a 2-300 lb difference in weight between these two cars in this comparison…2452lbs for the ND RF, and 2480lbs for the NC soft top. 30-ish pounds separate these two exact cars stock from Mazda.
i've always wondered why the shifter jiggles around so much when driving in Miatas. Are the bushings incredibly soft or something? is it an issue in spirited driving?
I don't think the ND has nearly as much space as the NC tbh. Especially passenger legroom in the ND is very limited, there is no glove box, and the trunk is smaller. It's more the tech that the ND has, that makes it in some ways a bit more convenient, like the Matrix LEDs. In other ways, the ND has already to much tech...
@@TypeVertigoAs an owner of a 2023 ND, I can confirm the trans tunnel issue is real, but thankfully my wife is on the shorter side and doesn’t bother her much. It’s my daily except when the snow starts falling, and even though it’s a tight fit, I love the feeling of the car being an extension of me.
From years of modifying cars and motorcycles, stock vs modified is never a fair comparison. And the ND is very soft, so comparison to an NC with suspension mods will be even more skewed.
Would you mind asking the ND3 owner about the measurements of the rear and front "lower part of the shock"? (basically spring collar to lower cup part). I have the exact same sakebomb set and i will be installing them this weekend. Maybe i can shortcut the part of trying to figure out a ride height with a good initial starting point.
Owner here: I forgot what measurement I had it on but the height will change slightly once the coilover is on the car so youll need to fine tune it after it’s on to get it perfect. As for the height, it’s 13.2” front and 13.5” rear 😊
Not a true comparison as you did an NC Club soft top to a ND3 RF Club. Weight penalty for the RF is over 110 pounds. I drove a 2016 Club soft top in the Brembo brakes / BBS wheels configuration for 7+ years as my daily. Ordered & bought an 2024 Club soft top with the BBR package - so except for the Recaro seats basically the same car. Don't know why you keep saying the ND1 is not a car competitive to an ND3 ? The 2016 had plenty of torque down low & added an active exhaust system from Flying Miata. My 2016 Club felt as fast as my new 2024 Club. That active exhaust system gets added to my 2024 Club on Monday ( doing the install myself just like I did to the 2016 Club ). My 2016 Club was every bit as quick as this new one with the extended rev range.
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Would you say it was worth the effort to install the ND1 muffler on the ND3? From the video, I can't hear any difference from a stock ND3. Also where did you get your exhaust tip covers?
I recorded a sound clip back to back and the nd1 muffler is slightly louder in a good way. It’s also several lbs lighter and some people in the miata forums swear it flows better. I think it’s a good oem+ mod because they can be found so cheap and dont sacrifice the aero of the car. The tips I have are the aimgain ones from rev9 which are pricey but look sweet.
I’m similar height and build to you and just spent a couple of hours in a ND3 on my favourite roads. Have you noticed your left knee interfering with your hands when using the clutch? It really needs the seat lowering. I also found the Recaro seat bolsters digging into my thigh after a while which is strange considering I’m fairly slim! Not sure there is a fix for that.
I have a 2024 Club soft top with the Recaro seats & felt the bolsters pinching my outer hips. The Recaro seats are built to hug you & keep you in place on high G turns. It took about 3 to 4 days & now the bolsters fit me perfect. Definitely had me worried driving out of the dealership ! The other thing is they are heated & much appreciated when the nights cool down so quickly now.
Agree. I initially had the 24 softtop club w no Recaros, the regular cloth seats are also heated but because of the “hammock” style, offer no lumbar support. I had back pain after a while. Then, I was rear ended, and long story short now I have a club w Recaros. I find them much more comfortable and have no back pain at all. Just my 2 cents
@@edwinot Before this 2024 Club I had a 2016 Club soft top with the unheated cloth hammock style seats for 7+ years as a daily drive. For me the seats were comfortable even on longer trips. Just didn't keep me in the seat on spirited driving like the Recaro's do now. Entry is slightly tougher with the Recaro seats. Being older I'm still limber enough where its not a problem.
@@ag4allgood so the seats needed breaking in? The car I drove was brand new with 10 miles on the clock. The hip bolsters are supported with what feels like a metal frame and I doubt they would change much after use like a foam bolster.
If you want more induction noise on the nd you can replace the stock sound tube with a marine hose or piping of sorts, this is an example of what it can sound like... ua-cam.com/video/77dZ216fkT8/v-deo.htmlsi=6d_SUacIEw3CyR7w . There's some tutorials online on how to do it and customize the overall sound and so on.
“The NC is the boat, the biggest and heaviest Miata by far” Facts: NC: Soft-top: 1,110 kg (2,450 lb) PRHT: 1,153 kg (2,542 lb) . ND: Manual: 2,332 lb (1,058 kg) Automatic: 2,381 lb (1,080 kg) It’s 60-70kg difference or 5%. Make what you want with that info.
Interesting comparison thank you. But I must say, after researching Miatas/MX5s as a possible replacement for my aging Mini R53; the overwhelming takeaway from the UA-cam reviews I’ve seen including this one is that the stock version of any Miata generation will be a disappointment in handling terms. It’s just a shame the car isn’t more competent out of the box, maybe with the ‘Sporty’ options actually being more sporty. The ‘new’ Mini in 2002 came in 3 suspension set-ups: normal, Sports, and Sport +, and there’s a huge difference between them. I’d stump up for a ‘24 ND3 but the hassle of modding a new car is off putting. (I’ve sampled an NC3 and it was too wallowy; haven’t driven a stock ND yet, so when I do it’s possible I’ll change my view)
Even in stock form the ND3 is a great handling car. It's set up from the factory as a GT car and it's sold to a wide variety of buyers including retired grandmas who want a fun little roadster. The wonderful thing Mazda has done here is that they intentionally made it very easy to make it a much more serious car. A good set of coilovers, and a performance alignment alone make the ND3 a very serious canyon car. Not a lot of money for a huge return. I own a Cooper S and while it's a fun car, it doesn't hold a candle to my ND3.
@@oldatarigamerWell, you got me there. NC must be the best! Honesty, it might be my next purchase though. It’s my second favorite after my NA8. Less & less competition every year.
Agree with your review. I think they went backwards with the ND. The Miata was always a second fun car/drivers car and a lot the changes for the ND sacrificed that for the sake of daily drive ability. But the Miata isn’t really DD-able anyway so it ends up just making the car worse.
I have to ever so slightly disagree with you. Have been in an ND collectively for 4 years now as a daily. Went from ND1 to a Bimmer M2C then back to an ND2. This time I went with a GT(S) ND2 because I still wanted some creature comforts of the BMW since I was spoiled and honestly don’t miss the BMW except for the power. Daily use in the Miata is perfect for me. The Sport trim is great for those not looking for creature comforts. I’m willing to wager that the ND is the best selling Miata. Is it the best Miata? Eh, that depends… I’d personally say the NC is the ‘best Miata’ when it comes to sports car basics but it’s also helped substantially by the aftermarket, something the ND is lacking at this time.
@@VictorPitstopThat’s a good point. I think if the ND had the aftermarket to push it more towards the NC it would be more ideal. Unfortunately it’s really hard to mod the ND to be as characterful as the NC. Can’t do anything about the steering and the engine you have to spend big money on something like the BBR 220 which I’m not sure if it works with US ECUs. But the ND suspension is tuned amazingly for the street. It’s totally dailyable from a suspension comfort perspective
@colbeny I'm impressed that you're listening to videos like this in a second language! I use the same trick of slowing videos down for my learning Italian! All the best 👍🏻
The best Miata is the one you are driving
Couldn't have said it better my friend. I have a 2007 NC and I'm eyeing the 2016 ND but I love my NC.
After having my NB on jack stands for the last year, this comment hits hard.
I just picked up a black NC3 Club just like this one. Paid -10k less than an ND, and I can use that money to mod it any way I like. Couldn't be happier
My first ever and only Miata is a ‘13 Club soft top in pearl white and I just love the car. I could grab a new one but I honestly like my NC better. I don’t care much about the tech upgrades with the ND’s, RF’s or the ‘24. My NC sort of reminds me of my of my old ‘69 TR6 Triumph. I bought the NC in 2021 and just don’t see myself parting with it anytime soon.
The difference in weight between an NC3 club with a manual and an ND3 RF with a manual is less than 100 lbs. Some NCs are just above 2,500lbs, all the soft top NCs are below 2,600lbs. The ND RFs are listed between 2450 and almost 2, 500 (auto I would imagine). The ND soft top with a manual is under 2,400lbs. So the weight differences are significant but not super big. That the ND has as many features it has and weighs what is does is impressive. Honestly true of the NC also since it is more spacious inside and a little bigger all around and still very light. Both pretty amazing for modern vehicles that are relatively affordable. I do love hydraulic steering but don't remember feeling it all that much in the NC the one time I drove it. Missed the steering feel in a ND2 I spent a lot of time in but it was still great overall. I haven't driven a stock NB but I drove a highly modified one that was a blast on curvy mountain roads. All depends on how fresh the suspension components and tires are in terms of feel. Have driven two different NAs, a tired one that felt pretty bad and a dialed in one that was a blast. I would say that the NC and ND will be more fun on a mountain where you need a bit more power just to get going.
Owned all 4 series- nb is most raw unadulterated fun but not really practical in the elements-I had a horse ranch near Yosemite & with a/c on during 105 plus temps?😂 I wore a bandana & coppertone & had the best tan in the area🎉🎉
Picking up my 08 nc Miata next weekend that I’ll be 2.5 liter Eco tech swapping and Boy I can’t wait.
Got an nc 3.75 fully forged 2.0 turbo running 365bhp @ 9psi, Ohlins etc. best fun you can have with your clothes on.
I should try that on my 08’ Ninja!😂😂
Agreed, any Miata is a great choice. Mine is a 2007 NC manual. I've turned it into a little beast with the extra power this car has always deserved. The driving experience has been transformed. I would highly recommend all of the upgrades I've made: 2.5 litre engine swap, coil overs, full 2.5 inch Roastersport exhaust including exhaust manifold, and wider rims (17x8) with 225-45/17 tires. Such an amazing transformation. Fell in love with my car all over again. Sway bars and alignment are next upgrades.
Got track-modded NC & ND that we road & track hard… luv ‘em both… enjoyed your review… 👍😊
Modern muscle car driver for the last 20 years… always was tempted by light weights. The ND RF looking like it did and being convertible pushed me over the edge. I use it as a daily driver. I went with 10kg front 4kg rear Feals. But I live on a mountain with hard turns every single day. It’s not too bad but if you go with stiff coilovers it needs to have a quality actual shock system that’s adjustable. Otherwise a quality softer coilover like you have is nice too. I have some bracing and it made it very feel able on each wheel. Good review.
Nc all the way,the most tuned mod miata than all the others,chassi is far away better than others,it’s a smaller Rx8.I have a NC 2.5 full forged turbocharged with 500+ hp and the car is so freaking 🚀 with 1100kg and 500+ hp and 71 torque you don’t need more believe me🎉
True but it’s also had a lot of time for tuners to research and develop parts for. Give the ND the same time; this is me grasping at straws. That being said I’m sure your NC is an absolute riot!
@@VictorPitstop ND is a beautiful miata but he have (soft)transmission and skyactive engine is not so tunable,for sure you can make 250-280hp but…almost you touch the limits of the engine and the transmission.
@@SaDu-sb3si anything can be helped with money. Walther performance builds stronger synchros but for a price of course. There’s also the option to swap an NC transmission as well for much cheaper.
NC3 has been fun, fun, fun. When bought/adopted in 2017, it had 15k miles. It is not only the most fun but also the most reliable car I have ever owned. (Senior here.) Drive Defensively like you're riding a motorcycle.
driving defensively is true. I ride motorcycles and you have to be EVERY bit as aware of other traffic in your MX5 as you do on a bike.
You asked about mod suggestions... Assuming your 2024 MX-5 is new, or still has some warranty remaining (if used), drive it stock until you learn all you can about it. Early mods may void your warranty. Also, you may find your taste in mods differs from your friends, plus your mod options may increase as your vendors learn more and finer tune their offerings. Once you buy into a mod, you are stuck with it until you update (junk) it. Finally, while you may consider the car a "blank canvas", it is what it is for lots of time-tested engineering reasons. Inserting a seemingly innocent mod might impact other car parts negatively. Imagining you can out smart experienced engineers who have been fine tuning things for (say) 30+ years... well, show some hubris. My 2 cents... M 🥴
BTW: I have a 2015 NC3 GT PRHT Jet Black Mica garage queen. My mods are tires and touch points.... love it. 🔥🔥🔥
That RoadsterSport Helmholtz Race muffler is on f-ing point! 👍👍
NC is about $10k less than a ND2, so I would put that into suspension, rims/tires, and turbo to get 250+hp!
It’s crazy how close the ND1 is getting to NC2+ prices.
@@VictorPitstop ND1 transmission reliability issues and not as easy to make power as the NC.
@@jjchockey sure, but as long as your not going to immediately turbo or supercharge it, it’s fine. I also don’t think you’ll immediately need power right away so you can learn the platform. Researching the vin helps identify the version of trans as well. If you’re wrenching on your cars which I hope most Miata owners do, you can find a used V5 trans for ~$1,500.
I really want an NC3. I have an NA and I'll keep it, but the NC3 would be my new fun daily/autocross car. Just hoping I can pick one up before they get too expensive. Add the new FM turbo kit and it would be more than quick enough for me while still handling great (albeit not as great as the ND).
Proclip for perfect magnet mount, have an ND3
As a Miata owner who has had a belly full of these instant automotive journalists - hundreds of them! - who exploit the popularity of my beloved sports car as a way to draw viewers to their sad little channels, I say enough! Now when that algorithm notifies me of another daily dozen Miata “reviews” I click in each the option that informs UA-cam I want to see nada from this channel ever again.
If you want to know all about this special car’s history, The Savage Geese put the rest of UA-cam to shame.
13:36 Roadster Sport Race muffler. Sound is great and very little drone. You want be disappointed.
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My iPhone 14 Pro fit perfectly in the phone space below my ND2's climate controls, and now the ND3 has wireless CarPlay and AA, so no cords necessary. Why would you need to mount a phone holder elsewhere in your car? It's perfect as is.
Use RAM mounts in MX5’s & race cars 4 phones, GoPro’s, etc… way better than any other mounts I’ve tried… & I tried heaps…!!! 👍👍👍
My 2008 NC1 (GT model with 6MT and PRHT) is the most fun car I have owned. It’s a fantastic car, lots of fun.
The ND interior is not as spacious as the NC interior. It feels narrower, and closer in, than the NC.
If I'm not mistaken, a NC3 is ~2500 lb, and an ND3 RF is ~2,450 lb.
The NC3 PRHT (power retractable hard top) weighs 2593LBS (around 2480 with the soft top), while the ND3 RF weighs 2452LBS. I owned a 2014 NC3 PRHT, and now own an ND2 soft top, and I definitely miss the feel/feedback of the hydraulic power steering vs electric.
Yes.
@@zackthompson73 8:39
You know. I know. This isn't a PRHT, and in this NC/ND comparison, there is definitely not '2 to 300 lb' of a weight diff.
@@colinbowman8816 You are correct that there isn’t a 2-300 lb difference in weight between these two cars in this comparison…2452lbs for the ND RF, and 2480lbs for the NC soft top. 30-ish pounds separate these two exact cars stock from Mazda.
i've always wondered why the shifter jiggles around so much when driving in Miatas. Are the bushings incredibly soft or something? is it an issue in spirited driving?
Me too- in my na n nb I switched over to a heavier 8ball style knob n quelled it a tad
There is no transmission mount to the chassis. It's mounted to just the "power plant frame" and the engine
Living in paradise.
I don't think the ND has nearly as much space as the NC tbh. Especially passenger legroom in the ND is very limited, there is no glove box, and the trunk is smaller. It's more the tech that the ND has, that makes it in some ways a bit more convenient, like the Matrix LEDs. In other ways, the ND has already to much tech...
This. Absolutely nobody who reviews NDs notices that they're TERRIBLE for passengers because the transmission tunnel eats into their footwell.
@@TypeVertigoAs an owner of a 2023 ND, I can confirm the trans tunnel issue is real, but thankfully my wife is on the shorter side and doesn’t bother her much. It’s my daily except when the snow starts falling, and even though it’s a tight fit, I love the feeling of the car being an extension of me.
Jass performance seat lowering bracket - can any mechanic install that?
ND1 muffler on an ND2/3 is a big mistake. The newer muffler has increased flow for the upper end, higher redline/higher HP engine.
Where do I find a modified by Jack NC3 under 15K that is not abused and has airbags?
From years of modifying cars and motorcycles, stock vs modified is never a fair comparison. And the ND is very soft, so comparison to an NC with suspension mods will be even more skewed.
But he compared the modified NC to an ND with similar suspension mods.
2:04 but why?
Would you mind asking the ND3 owner about the measurements of the rear and front "lower part of the shock"? (basically spring collar to lower cup part). I have the exact same sakebomb set and i will be installing them this weekend. Maybe i can shortcut the part of trying to figure out a ride height with a good initial starting point.
Owner here: I forgot what measurement I had it on but the height will change slightly once the coilover is on the car so youll need to fine tune it after it’s on to get it perfect. As for the height, it’s 13.2” front and 13.5” rear 😊
Not a true comparison as you did an NC Club soft top to a ND3 RF Club. Weight penalty for the RF is over 110 pounds. I drove a 2016 Club soft top in the Brembo brakes / BBS wheels configuration for 7+ years as my daily. Ordered & bought an 2024 Club soft top with the BBR package - so except for the Recaro seats basically the same car. Don't know why you keep saying the ND1 is not a car competitive to an ND3 ? The 2016 had plenty of torque down low & added an active exhaust system from Flying Miata. My 2016 Club felt as fast as my new 2024 Club. That active exhaust system gets added to my 2024 Club on Monday ( doing the install myself just like I did to the 2016 Club ). My 2016 Club was every bit as quick as this new one with the extended rev range.
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I think BC has some coils with adjustable dampening and rebound.
I have a 24 club rf goodwin 1" lowering springs and super q exhaust. Perfect daily driver combo. Im in socal if you want to take it for a spin
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Woohoo! 🎉
You picked the perfect mods for fun street car 👍 now add more powaaaaa 😊
Would you say it was worth the effort to install the ND1 muffler on the ND3? From the video, I can't hear any difference from a stock ND3. Also where did you get your exhaust tip covers?
I recorded a sound clip back to back and the nd1 muffler is slightly louder in a good way. It’s also several lbs lighter and some people in the miata forums swear it flows better. I think it’s a good oem+ mod because they can be found so cheap and dont sacrifice the aero of the car. The tips I have are the aimgain ones from rev9 which are pricey but look sweet.
@@sdsendoh Would you consider sharing the sound clips if you still have them :)
do you always test with ac on?
Is there finally a way to tune the ND3's Ecu? Think its a good fun car, but for a serious sportscar it need at least another 50hp....
it's not a serious sportscar, despite it looking more so than previous gen
it's a great platform to turn it into one though
@@lawrencelin272 untill now nobody has unlocked/hacked the ecu....so i think it will be hard to receive more power that you need
The stock ND has terrible body roll. even more than the stock NC. Sway bars easily fix this though!
I’m similar height and build to you and just spent a couple of hours in a ND3 on my favourite roads.
Have you noticed your left knee interfering with your hands when using the clutch? It really needs the seat lowering. I also found the Recaro seat bolsters digging into my thigh after a while which is strange considering I’m fairly slim! Not sure there is a fix for that.
Im 6’1, 210 lbs and fit well on my 24 club softtop. I also had a different club, the non Recaro version, and I find the Recaros much more comfortable.
I have a 2024 Club soft top with the Recaro seats & felt the bolsters pinching my outer hips. The Recaro seats are built to hug you & keep you in place on high G turns. It took about 3 to 4 days & now the bolsters fit me perfect. Definitely had me worried driving out of the dealership ! The other thing is they are heated & much appreciated when the nights cool down so quickly now.
Agree. I initially had the 24 softtop club w no Recaros, the regular cloth seats are also heated but because of the “hammock” style, offer no lumbar support. I had back pain after a while. Then, I was rear ended, and long story short now I have a club w Recaros. I find them much more comfortable and have no back pain at all. Just my 2 cents
@@edwinot Before this 2024 Club I had a 2016 Club soft top with the unheated cloth hammock style seats for 7+ years as a daily drive. For me the seats were comfortable even on longer trips. Just didn't keep me in the seat on spirited driving like the Recaro's do now. Entry is slightly tougher with the Recaro seats. Being older I'm still limber enough where its not a problem.
@@ag4allgood so the seats needed breaking in? The car I drove was brand new with 10 miles on the clock. The hip bolsters are supported with what feels like a metal frame and I doubt they would change much after use like a foam bolster.
Remember to get rid of the poor exhaust manifold
NC2 / 3 and spend the money on decent coilovers and BBR Super 185 tuning pack. Done.
I have been seeing 2019 ND2 for 23k, That might be the way to go, 41k for a new nd3 is a bit much
If you want more induction noise on the nd you can replace the stock sound tube with a marine hose or piping of sorts, this is an example of what it can sound like... ua-cam.com/video/77dZ216fkT8/v-deo.htmlsi=6d_SUacIEw3CyR7w . There's some tutorials online on how to do it and customize the overall sound and so on.
Not feelin the primer grey
If a helmet is part of a MX-5 driver’s experience, a seat lowering bracket might make sense.
I'll be getting a seat lowering bracket no doubt
“The NC is the boat, the biggest and heaviest Miata by far”
Facts:
NC:
Soft-top: 1,110 kg (2,450 lb)
PRHT: 1,153 kg (2,542 lb)
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ND:
Manual: 2,332 lb (1,058 kg)
Automatic: 2,381 lb (1,080 kg)
It’s 60-70kg difference or 5%.
Make what you want with that info.
Damn skippy- 🎉🎉
Nc3 with k swap would be perfect car.
that'd be a riot in the best way
That A/c braking
Interesting comparison thank you. But I must say, after researching Miatas/MX5s as a possible replacement for my aging Mini R53; the overwhelming takeaway from the UA-cam reviews I’ve seen including this one is that the stock version of any Miata generation will be a disappointment in handling terms. It’s just a shame the car isn’t more competent out of the box, maybe with the ‘Sporty’ options actually being more sporty. The ‘new’ Mini in 2002 came in 3 suspension set-ups: normal, Sports, and Sport +, and there’s a huge difference between them. I’d stump up for a ‘24 ND3 but the hassle of modding a new car is off putting. (I’ve sampled an NC3 and it was too wallowy; haven’t driven a stock ND yet, so when I do it’s possible I’ll change my view)
Even in stock form the ND3 is a great handling car. It's set up from the factory as a GT car and it's sold to a wide variety of buyers including retired grandmas who want a fun little roadster. The wonderful thing Mazda has done here is that they intentionally made it very easy to make it a much more serious car. A good set of coilovers, and a performance alignment alone make the ND3 a very serious canyon car. Not a lot of money for a huge return. I own a Cooper S and while it's a fun car, it doesn't hold a candle to my ND3.
@@falcodog2917that’s encouraging. Thanks.
Eat at yer fave greasy fast food place n you will even it up mate😂😂😂
the nd3 needs an exhaust upgrade
The answer is Miata.
NC ftw
Owner left the plastic on the Cusco front strut
NC is a Car and Driver Top 10 cars 8 times -- more than any other generation.
Well, they also made it for 11 years -- more than any other generation.
@@SereneSpeed Well, that’s more than the NA and NB combined, which was more than 11 years.
@@oldatarigamerWell, you got me there. NC must be the best! Honesty, it might be my next purchase though. It’s my second favorite after my NA8. Less & less competition every year.
@@SereneSpeed all Miatas are pretty good
@@oldatarigamerAgreed, regardless of top 10 lists.
Agree with your review. I think they went backwards with the ND. The Miata was always a second fun car/drivers car and a lot the changes for the ND sacrificed that for the sake of daily drive ability. But the Miata isn’t really DD-able anyway so it ends up just making the car worse.
I have to ever so slightly disagree with you. Have been in an ND collectively for 4 years now as a daily. Went from ND1 to a Bimmer M2C then back to an ND2. This time I went with a GT(S) ND2 because I still wanted some creature comforts of the BMW since I was spoiled and honestly don’t miss the BMW except for the power. Daily use in the Miata is perfect for me. The Sport trim is great for those not looking for creature comforts. I’m willing to wager that the ND is the best selling Miata. Is it the best Miata? Eh, that depends… I’d personally say the NC is the ‘best Miata’ when it comes to sports car basics but it’s also helped substantially by the aftermarket, something the ND is lacking at this time.
@@VictorPitstopThat’s a good point. I think if the ND had the aftermarket to push it more towards the NC it would be more ideal. Unfortunately it’s really hard to mod the ND to be as characterful as the NC. Can’t do anything about the steering and the engine you have to spend big money on something like the BBR 220 which I’m not sure if it works with US ECUs. But the ND suspension is tuned amazingly for the street. It’s totally dailyable from a suspension comfort perspective
Could you speak a bit slower please? :D Sometimes it's hard to follow as a non-native speaker
It's possible to play all UA-cam videos at 0.75x speed.
I can't imagine someone will change their whole way of speaking like that.
@@UTubeSL Good hint, I'll try that :)
@colbeny I'm impressed that you're listening to videos like this in a second language!
I use the same trick of slowing videos down for my learning Italian!
All the best 👍🏻
You could turn on the closed captioning too. I do that even being a native English speaker. I’m Southern, so I I speak a little slower.
@JJF1973 great suggestion. You can even auto-translate the closed captions to another language (eg one's native language).