I've just purchased a 38kWh Premium SE which I'll be collecting in the next few weeks. It's an 8+ hour trip for me to get the car home, so the first trip will be the longest one. It'll be my first EV. Videos like this are extremely helpful. Thank you!
Well I have just got back from a trip from Long Eaton to Humberside airport and back. My Ioniq 38 managed 5.8 miles/Kwh over the176 miles. That was at 60-65mph GPS and A/C set to 22c driver only. Pretty impressive given that it was nearly all motorway!!
20:57 hi matt, if you hold down one of the paddles, you will put the car into Auto Regen mode. It would use the radar to see what's in front of you and regen accordingly. Nice little trick😅
Thought I recognised the roads at the start… my wife hails from Goring, and we got married 31 years ago in Streatley Church, lovely part of the country. I’ve commented before about how I love teaching people to drive in my 38kWh Ioniq, and the efficiency is bonkers. I generally teach in Level 2 Regen with it set to Auto regen so it kicks in extra if the car thinks it needs it. I find Level 3 too harsh for my learners generally, it can be too severe if they’re not experienced and haven’t acquired a light touch on the pedals. It’s the same with the drive mode, I teach with it in Eco, it has a bit less acceleration which is helpful around town with learners. The channel was one of the reasons I bought my Ioniq to teach in 2 years ago as your reviews on the 28kWh were fanatastic. Liking these in depth videos, even though you’re preaching to the converted to be honest.
@@GoGreenAutos I’m from Stoke, and as we say up here…… that’s a proper bank. It a monster hill and my in-laws used to next to The Bull just before the lights at the bottom of the hill, look forward to watching it.
7.4 miles per kWh is truly impressive. I've watched and read hundreds of EV road tests and no electric other car comes close to the Ioniq's efficiency, not even far smaller and lighter models. I always drive my Fiat 500e like you did in this video, but the best I can achieve is 5 miles per kWh in the height of summer in very similar conditions. (4 miles per kWh over the year)
7.4mi/kwh is insane!!! I think I may trade the 30Kwh Nissan Leaf for one of these (used). I now live in SW France where most speed limits are 50/70/80 km/hr. In other words slap-bang in the efficiency zone. Don't get me wrong, the LEAF is a perfect daily drive if charging from home, but I'm also running a petrol car for longer journeys. This looks like the best bang for the buck, to combine 2 cars into one. 5.2miles /Kwh gets me a 200 mile car, and that's honestly plenty for what I need. It seems that 5.2m/kwh is no issue for the Ioniq. Thanks for this great review mate!!!
Hi Matt, thanks for this another great video. With my Ioniq 38, I try to drive efficiently and I achieve these consumption levels on a daily basis during summer. I have two remarks about your video : 1) In order to ensure no efficiency gain is coming from downhill, a round trip should be done : even if it is downhill driving on some sections, you will necessarly have as much uphill driving because you are going back to the same place. 2) If you use the brake pedal, you are not necessarily using the brake pads. EVs, like hybrid cars use brake blending, which means that it uses a mix of electric motor regen and brake pads when the foot brake pedal is pressed. For mild braking it would be almost 100% regen and for very strong braking it will use the braking pads in addition to regen. What I noticed on my vehicle is that even when I use the brake pedal it is mostly only regen which is equivalent to using the regen pads on the steering wheel. Note : long press on the left regen pad results in a strong regen that can stop the car. It is not as strong as flooring the foot brake pedal, so it shouldn't be used in emergencies.
I'm guessing that it's good practice to brake hard from time to time to ensure that the pads and discs get used and don't sieze up, which can be an issue with EVs, I understand.
@@staffordian Yes, indeed. However the friction brakes actually go into action at EVERY single stop, at the end of braking, from few miles per hour to zero.
I reset obc my 28 kWh Ionic early summer, now it's 9.3 kWh/100km. For me, 100 km costs about 1 euro. All costs per month, taxes, insurance, "gasoline" is about 50 euro per month.
Nice video! You say no breaking, but actually if you press the brake you regen. So if you brake very subtle, you won't be using your brake discs. That is, for the final few miles per hour.
I've just extended the lease on mine because none of the newer EV's can match it for all round practicality and efficiency. Wish Hyundai would stop making SUV's and do an updated Ioniq! Also always drive mine in eco as full power is still available if you floor it.
@@royd63ukthe bigger battery that they have put in has reduced the efficiency of the car, it’s closer to 4.5-5 miles/kWh than the 5.5-6.5 miles/kWh seen in this video and that I also experience with my Ioniq 28kWh. Plus the shape of the boot makes the Ioniq 6 not very practical for families or trips to B&Q with stuff to load. I wonder what they were thinking 😢
Hyundai and Kia will eventually go down the path of bankruptcy like GM did of they carry on making SUVs just on time when the appetite for them disappears
@@toyotaprius79 we’llsee. In the meantime, they have secured contracts to supply batteries to various EV manufacturers in Europe, reinforcing their reputation regarding the quality and reliability of the batteries they’ve built for EVs.
Ah Matt that did give me a chuckle: man sets out to film vid about economical driving, man forgets to drive economically.😂 My old dad always struggled to make ends meet so he taught me how to drive efficiently from a very young age, I'm knocking on 65 now so that was a while ago and it's second nature to me and my wife has learned from me to drive in the same way. When we got our Premium last year we taught ourselves, with your help, to drive it efficiently. The left hand pedal can be held if necessary to bring it to a complete halt, keep Auto Hold on, touch brake to remain in place. I have to consciously make an effort to use the brakes hard every so often to clean them.😂 By the way the only thing we struggled with was cooling and heating using too much power, this video has finally made me understand that it's setting the correct temp that is vital, so cheers for that. Not too low in summer not too high in winter, think it's gone in now. We drive in Normal mode as a rule, I slip it into Sport to join a fast road from a short slip road. Reason we don't bother with Eco mode any more is because I once charged it to 100% on our local rapid (no home charging, no worries, again thanks in part to your earlier videos) because I was very slow getting around the supermarket. This was in the first few weeks of ownership and the GOM said 217 in Eco, 216 in Normal and 214 in Sport. I reckon as the difference is so marginal we might as well drive in comfort unless we run very short on juice which never happens. Oh and we had a Kona as courtesy car when it went in for the warranty recalls, couldn't get better than 4.3m/kWh out of it, very disappointing. Plus the boot was so much smaller, I couldn't believe it, had to put a seat down to get my walker in. Our boot swallows it and five bags of shopping! Seemed extraordinary in such a big looking car. Anyway, thanks Matt for doing this video, it showed me we're doing ok.👍
21:10 You don't need to 'turn on the regen' when you brake, the car uses regen for you until quite low speeds. If you remember your 28, you can see the regen effect bottom left of the dashboard as a series of blue blocks. I'd be surprised if the 38 doesn't do the same. A very senior engineer at Tesla (ex-Lotus and a mate of mine) has told me a couple of times how impressed they were with the way that Hyundai had integrated the braking and regen to be nearly faultless.
@@FFVoyager No, I tested this a few times and you get no additional regen. Once brakes take over, that's it. Which is something that catches some drivers out and you see social media posts complaining how dangerous their car is.
Got the 2021 version and regularly get 5.5 to 6.5 Love it. Someone actually hit it in a car park recently so it’s been in the garage. Had a mokka e as a hire car and the efficiency of that was terrible compared to the ioniq
Like ive said before, max i got on my regular comute was 8miles/kwh, but normally it was 6.5 or thete abouts. Now im in the kona 64 , thats shapped like a brick so getting 5.5 and sonetimes up to 6.5 on a good day. Best efficiency is with regen set to zero therefore you have more control over how and when you slow down. Better to coast than brake late. Taught by a car efficiency driver. Works for me on petrol and diesel cars. Ford focus 1.0 70mpg, mondeo 2.0 diesel 85mpg.
Ioniq Classic and Ionic Facelift are exceptional cars, to this day this are the cars to buy for most people who want some serious car for their money! Extremely reliable, extremely low consumption, sadly the facelift charges a little slow which is a pity, a sit seems caused by bad firmware, battery temperature is usually too cold for decent charging, escpecially in winter, that would be so easy to overcame if Hyundai would not stop doing stuff for cars once they are not produced anymore.
im not sure about the newer(2020/2021) but the 2019 and older holding the left paddles does nothing. its just to adjust the levels. the max is level 3 and holding it on three will do nothing extra.
With an efficient EV, you can also consider it a boost to the charging speed too. If an EV is 25% more efficient than another EV with the same charging speed, you effectively are getting an extra 25% in charging speed as you are getting 25% 'extra miles' . Thats why i love the 28kWh ioniq with its supreme efficiency and dlat charging at 69kW until 77%. It can cover a lot of miles quickly (including charging)
Most Hyundai & KIA EVs are very efficient, Ioniq is king. Without trying on A & B roads with air con, regen level 1 & auto regen and standard mode the other half in a 39kW 2021 facelift Kona got 6.68 mi/kWh over 11.8 miles and in a 2021 E-Niro 64kWh 6.53 mi/kWh over 56.54 miles and 6.4 mi/kWh on return 57.78 mile journey and the GOMS are very accurate. As you say it is most efficient not to use the energy in the first place than to try to claw some wasted excess energy back with regen
Extremely impressive efficiency. Great video with very easily actionable advice! Not in love with mi/kWh, but I get that that is the standard in the UK and US. We use kWh/100km here in Canada which flips the thinking from what you get to what you consume. I get about 14 kWh/100km average on my Kona Electric which is about 4.4 mi/kWh for a predicted range of 281mi or 450km. 7 mi/kWh is incredible! That's less that 8.9 kWh/100km which puts it into the class of ultra-efficient EVs like the Aptera. I'm curious how I could do with intentionally efficient driving in the Kona. I doubt I could exceed 5mi/kWh (stay under 12.4kWh/100km) on a realistic drive. I've done it, but it's definitely do to ending my drive after coming down a massive hill from the highway to my house.
I love my Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh 2018. We always drive in eco mode as the normal setting can be a bit jerky due to the greater torque. Even more jerky in sport mode so we never use that mode.
Another excellent video outlining its virtues. And from past ones it’s battery life longevity. I’ve spent ages researching EVs in the used market that are in my range. The Ionic and Kona come on top in all but the charging speed. I could live with that on long journeys but I don’t think my partner would
The Ioniq 28kWh charges at 66kW which surprisingly makes long trips shorter than driving with the 38kWh model (by 20-25 min on average). If they had put the 38kWh with a similar charging capability, it would have been a killer EV.
Using the efficiency to calculate your available range is less accurate than using: (100%/78%) x 166 miles displayed = 213 miles. Which is pretty much what you had displayed at the start. 😁 but yes, your recent 7.4 miles/kWh helped increase the predicted range.
Just bought one of these to replace my MG5 SR which after MG serviced it would no longer charge from solar. . Should have bought an Ioniq in the first place as it's a better car in every single way. . It's a novelty pushing a button on the infotainment screen and seeing something actually happen !!!
That's very impressive. I did a couple of 200 mile trips over the Bank Holiday in my 28kWh Ioniq & was very pleased to get 6.1 & 5.9 miles/kWh. It included quite a bit of motorway but a lot of slow traffic. Do you find that the 38kWh is more efficient than your previous 28kWh Ioniq.
Many say the 28kWh is more efficient. But there's not much between them. Its been too long since since I was driving the 28kWh myself, as my partner was then driving it for about 1.5 years. So I can't really remember if it was any more efficient. They're pretty identical in terms of efficiency.
@@GoGreenAutos how's your French? See Essai conso Hyundai Ioniq 38 : mieux que la 28 on UA-cam This is the only direct comparison test I've seen between the two ua-cam.com/video/sOb8i9Y6pw0/v-deo.htmlsi=oJfTpIxd7XbdKSVY The 28 was 14% more efficient in town (30mph) 10% more efficient on normal roads (50mph) and 7% better on motorways (80mph). The figures they got are broadly similar to what I'd expect at those speeds (6.9, 5.97 and 3.72 mi/kWh)
@@FFVoyager I'm surprised its that much. Both me and my partner have been driving both the 28 & 38 and not noticed any difference in efficiency, when doing just normal driving.
@@GoGreenAutos it would be interesting to see a test done with the cars here. My guess is that, with one following another and over a sensible distance, we'd get something similar.
Thanks Matt. Real talk: You've owned both the 28 and 38kWh Ioniqs, which one would you choose? I keep going round in circles between the two versions because the extra capacity and interior of the 38 are appealing but the 28's are a few K less expensive.
Now I've both for some time, I'd say the 38kWh...just for the larger sat nav screen and the extra 50 miles range. But there's not much between them, as it is the same car. The 38kWh is only a very mild refresh. But I much prefer the external looks of the 28kWh.
The BIG difference is that the 38kWh Ioniq can only charge up to 45kW and with a multi-phases charging curve, whereas the 28kWh Ioniq can charge up to 66kW with a very simple 2 phases charging curve. The result is that the 28kWh Ioniq is quicker over long trips than the 38kWh, regardless its larger range. For some, this has been a deal breaker because basically with the 28 you will have to stop frequently but not for long each time (15-25 min), while with the 38 when you stop it will take a good 35-45 min at least. We’re talking 15%-80% or 15%-94% of charging.
@@Nikoo033 For long trips yes. But that additional 50 mile range from the 38kWh model means that I rarely will ever need to rapid charge the 38kWh and I regularly do 3+ hour trips without needing to stop for a charge. It all depends on how long your trips are of course. Very long distance driving, the 28kWh is quicker. If your long trips are mostly under 200 miles, the 38kWh is quicker as no tops are required. That's a lot more convenient.
17:15 - I did a 430 mile run in February, paying no attention to the efficiency whatsoever and it got 4.6mi/kWh in the 5c cold, wet and wind. That's about as bad as I could make it (and there are some EV's out there that won't get close to that in good conditions!)
I've just done over 200 miles ( Notts to east coast and back ) in a 30kwh leaf , best I could do was 4.7 ( thought that was good ) the Ioniqs efficacy is the way all EV's should be aiming for .
Hi Matt, great video. I love my 2020 38kw Ioniq can you tell me what the battery care is for on the energy information screen as I’ve never seen it move from 0.00kW? Thanks
Hi have a Hyundai ionic e/v and had a problem were the charger did not recognise my e/was connected and hence no battery charging.Hyundai did not no what the problem was and were too busy to help and gave me. AA breakdown number but the AA could not help. So I decided to have a go my self, the first thing I did was check the car charger plug to see if the car end was locked and found it was not so I’m pulled the car plug release cable and found rthis cleared the problem and was able to charge my e/v. Not sure if this is a common fault
I have been wathing the videos about the new e-3008. The long range one will have a 98kWh battery and claimed range of 435 miles. If it had the IONIQ level of efficiency it would be over 700 miles!
I do like the look of the new e-3008. Its a shame these new vehicles can't get their efficiency better and instead have to fit huge batteries to get the range.
Another very informative video. The Ioniq is a fab example of what BEVs should achieve. I would have gone the Kona route - because of the larger battery, but the 38kWh Ioniq seems to be quite competitive in the range, all things considered. I needed at least the boot access of the Kona and eventually realised even that was not quite large enough for my needs - hence the 5 was needed. The AWD was my choice for a bit of fun and the towing capacity. I nearly always drive my Ioniq 5 AWD in its auto regen setting and use the left paddle when coming to a stop or for heavier regen if slowing/stopping in a straight line. The difference between eco and normal is not worth worrying about most of the time, as it will be in rear wheel drive unless really needed. I obviously can’t get anywhere near the Ioniq efficiency - I am content with nearly 300 miles range at present, as a comparison. I am not permitted to accelerate/brake harshly, and 52-54 mph, on single carriageways, generally means I catch up with traffic at the next roundabout/intersection. Using the whole 300 HP is an entirely different matter.🙂 I hope my battery lasts as well as those in the Ioniq, as this motor is a ‘keeper’ as far as I am concerned. I’ve only charged once, with my wife on board, in over 5 months. My only question to Matt (and others) is whether the battery longevity is absolutely typical - or only in ‘selected’ ownership/cars?
@@Nikoo033 From the ‘net: “having the distinctive qualities of a particular type of … thing”. Therefore virtually universal? Very few that deteriorate more quickly? All the same regarding the battery ageing? Not cherry-picked examples - ie not exceptional? Apart from the Kona battery recall, are all Hyundai batteries of the same ilk? (obviously not referencing a person in this context and not in the usual deleterious connotation)🙂
@@oliver90owner most feedbacks you will find on the net (Ioniq forum, or UA-cam) report that the Ioniq 2016-2022 has a battery that seems to withstand time and high mileage. Mine has over 60000 miles, 4 years old, and the battery is still at 100% state of health (info from last service) and has lost less than 2% of total capacity. The only thing that you have to worry about is to avoid rapid charging as much as possible. Prefer destination charging at 7kW in most cases if possible. Recently some car manufacturers (I forgot which ones, look it up), have announced that they will soon get the batteries for their EVs from Hyundai/Kia. I think just this is testimony for the quality of Hyundai’s batteries.
KiaOra Matt or any Ioniq user I have a sharp hill to climb on leaving the property gate . This is on metal (gravel ) is there a button for hill assist ? This morning the skid icon came up (orange) I generally go slow slow but thought I was going backwards even though I was in drive . Only 3rd day of owning car . I do love it. Thanks heaps for any help. Ria
Hill assist is on all the time. If you come off the brake, the car will not roll back (for a few seconds anyway) which gives you time to press the accelerator. Or if you enable AutoHold, it will hold the car on the brakes until the accelerator is pressed.
Depends how much mileage you need/do per day as it is important to realise that the Ioniq 38 charges slower than the Ioniq 28 (i.e. 45kW max versus 66kW). So charging times are way different between the two models.
I’m not sure if you have covered it, I’m interested to know who drives more efficiently, the car maximising the ‘Auto Cruise’ as much as possible V the Human?
I haven't done a video on that, but from my experience, I can always drive more efficient than allowing the car to do it. Mainly because the car doesn't change the speed with gradients.
You mention that the 28Kw charges faster than the 38kw when using Charging Stations on a long journey, but if you are home charging is there any difference between the 2? And, do you need a Home Charging Port, or is a simple garage electric connection enough?
My 38kWh came with a portable charger that plugs into a standard 10A power outlet. I only drive about 20km a day so just plug in on the weekend to charge at home. I try to charge between 9am and 3pm when our tariff is only 8c/kWh as well. Costs me bugger all to run! I've owned it for over a month now and charging has only cost me $14. Petrol would likely have cost me around $140 in that time. If you do decide to get a faster home (AC) charger, just keep in mind this car single phase only for AC charging. So a 7kW charger (32A 1P) will charge faster than an 11kW charger (16A 3P), since it will be drawing from only 1 phase no matter how many your charger supports.
Thanks for the detailed response@@matthew35673m I suppose it doesn't really need much more than 7kw charging as the battery is so small, and home-charging overnight or whenever for several hours isn't really an issue.
Clearly a very efficient run getting over 7m/kWh. Your average speed achieved was I think 27mph approx. Yes of course you were driving as best you could to the speed limits and obviously significant traffic will tend to dictate your speed achieved no matter what higher speed you might like to target. Technically speaking running an average speed of 40mph or less is called hypermiling (B.Nyland) and is usually employed to eke out battery energy if you are low and need to get to the next charger. If you did a clear run in light traffic on dual carriageways and motorways your average speed might climb up to 50 -55mph or so and corresponding efficiency achieved would be a lot less. That said; the Hyundai efficiency would still beat a lot of other brands. Also of course experiencing light traffic is probably a rare event unless you travel at late night hours.
Hi Matt, I’m looking at selling my MG4 and “downgrading” to a early Ioniq 38kwh to save good chunk of money on depreciation. How are these 38kwh ioniqs reliability wise ? Anything serious to look out for ? Thanks
Pretty bullet proof. There is a current recall ongoing to change the coolant as the original coolant crystallises. The door handles can break. But all of this is sorted by the warranty. Have a look through the playlist to find all this info as many Ioniq videos on the channel now ua-cam.com/play/PLW0oq-rvufntC8Qk6ONQjJ7nncwqhp9LL.html
@@GoGreenAutos Yeah I saw the video on the coolant recall, is the consensus that the recall has worked ? Seams like it would be difficult to dissolve crystals from inside a battery. Cheers
@@dan123collins On both of our Ioniqs, it has seemed to have worked. Some owners get the "refill coolant" message again fairly soon after having the recall done and in my view that is indicating that the flushing wasn't done enough times. Some people are reporting that the job was done in an hour. This is too quick. Hyundai themselves says it takes 2 hours in the TSB document and this is therefore the amount of labour they pay the dealer for. The reality is it takes nearer 3 hours. If anyone is getting it done in an hour, it would indicate that they have not done enough flushes (or even any!) and therefore not properly flushed out the solids.
@@GoGreenAutos thanks for the Detailed answer and your time, appreciate you supporting / reviewing used EV’s. I particularly liked when you did your hoist / lift videos and your common fault videos as it’s good to see what EV’s are lasting well.
@@wrutherfordx3x No software updates are only on the head unit. I've got a video coming which goes through all these. You press the menu button to scroll down about 5 different screens, then on most there is a sub screens which you then press the up and down keys to navigate through them.
I was shocked i managed to go down less than 9kwh/100 on secondary road with up and downs, but perhaps 1000 meters up, 500m altimeter difference between start and arrival ! On an ioniq 28. my car displays 290 km when fully charged... (100 000km done with that car).
My only gripe on the Ioniq is that road and tire noise isn't on part with the other qualities of the car. Great car though better sound proofing would make even better!!
I charge my 28 to 100% at home where it does most of it's charging. 45,000 miles and there is no obvious degradation. When I charge at a rapid (and I've not done that this year(!) I'd charge from sub 20% to 80% in 15 minuets and be on my way.
If you need 100% then charge to that. I commute 80 miles a day. 80% is fine all year round! I have free charging at work so on Friday I charge it to 100% for the weekend
I believe the 80% rule is a good rule when fast charging but when charging at home at 7kW (the max that an Ioniq can AC charge) just charge to 100%. When fast charging after ,80% the charge speed strips considerably. Better to unplug and drive towards the next fast charge and charge again to max 80%.
My Model 3 LFP is showing 118wh/km (a bit over 5) over 70,000 kms in an aggressive driving environment using only one pedal driving. There is nowhere that I could drive for as long as 140 minutes without covering more than 160 kms for fear of being run over ……and it has a larger frontal area including 235mm tyres. Basic applied physics at work constantly gets results.
If it helps I’ve just recently purchased a 38kwh Premium SE and I absolutely love it. I had a Volvo S90 on lease before the Ioniq so was used to a lot of gadgets - and the premium se has more gadgets than the Volvo did! I found when shopping around the price difference between the premium and premium se was really small. I prefer leather seats as they seem easier to keep clean and I know the premium SE has rear cross traffic alert. I had this on the Volvo and found it really helpful in car parks etc (I’m not sure if it’s fitted to the premium trim but don’t think it is). Matt is right about the efficiency - I’m regularly been getting 5 to 6 miles per kWh and that’s using the air con and ventilated seats etc with 2 passengers in the car! Highest I’ve seen on my trips so far was about 6.7 and again that was with passengers, AC on and not a particularly eco effort lol. I’ve no regrets at all buying the ioniq so far - in fact it’s probably the one of the best cars I’ve had in years. At the moment we pay 9.5p per kWh from 12 to 7am (eon drive tariff) so it’s genuinely costing pennies per mile for electricity.
I've just purchased a 38kWh Premium SE which I'll be collecting in the next few weeks. It's an 8+ hour trip for me to get the car home, so the first trip will be the longest one. It'll be my first EV. Videos like this are extremely helpful. Thank you!
Well I have just got back from a trip from Long Eaton to Humberside airport and back. My Ioniq 38 managed 5.8 miles/Kwh over the176 miles. That was at 60-65mph GPS and A/C set to 22c driver only. Pretty impressive given that it was nearly all motorway!!
Yes, the Ioniq is very efficient still at motorway speeds. Its an incredible EV.
7.7miles/kwh today on my 30mile commute 50/50 motorway/city driving. Best I've ever had, 28kwh version.
That's excellent
20:57 hi matt, if you hold down one of the paddles, you will put the car into Auto Regen mode. It would use the radar to see what's in front of you and regen accordingly. Nice little trick😅
Thought I recognised the roads at the start… my wife hails from Goring, and we got married 31 years ago in Streatley Church, lovely part of the country.
I’ve commented before about how I love teaching people to drive in my 38kWh Ioniq, and the efficiency is bonkers.
I generally teach in Level 2 Regen with it set to Auto regen so it kicks in extra if the car thinks it needs it. I find Level 3 too harsh for my learners generally, it can be too severe if they’re not experienced and haven’t acquired a light touch on the pedals. It’s the same with the drive mode, I teach with it in Eco, it has a bit less acceleration which is helpful around town with learners. The channel was one of the reasons I bought my Ioniq to teach in 2 years ago as your reviews on the 28kWh were fanatastic. Liking these in depth videos, even though you’re preaching to the converted to be honest.
I recorded a video a few weeks ago, testing regen down Streatley hill. That will be on the channel in about two months time.
@@GoGreenAutos I’m from Stoke, and as we say up here…… that’s a proper bank. It a monster hill and my in-laws used to next to The Bull just before the lights at the bottom of the hill, look forward to watching it.
7.4 miles per kWh is truly impressive. I've watched and read hundreds of EV road tests and no electric other car comes close to the Ioniq's efficiency, not even far smaller and lighter models. I always drive my Fiat 500e like you did in this video, but the best I can achieve is 5 miles per kWh in the height of summer in very similar conditions. (4 miles per kWh over the year)
Yes the Fiat should do well as its lighter and smaller than the Ioniq. But just goes to show how the powertrain efficiencies are so important.
We got over 4 miles / kWh over a year in the Tesla model Y
120k km so far after nearly 4 years and I still love it. Only thing I miss is a bit more range when driving motorways. 28kWh model is the one I drive
If I needed one more video to convince me to buy this car, this one is it. Great video for the aspiring Iconic owner!
7.4mi/kwh is insane!!! I think I may trade the 30Kwh Nissan Leaf for one of these (used). I now live in SW France where most speed limits are 50/70/80 km/hr. In other words slap-bang in the efficiency zone.
Don't get me wrong, the LEAF is a perfect daily drive if charging from home, but I'm also running a petrol car for longer journeys. This looks like the best bang for the buck, to combine 2 cars into one. 5.2miles /Kwh gets me a 200 mile car, and that's honestly plenty for what I need. It seems that 5.2m/kwh is no issue for the Ioniq.
Thanks for this great review mate!!!
Hi Matt, thanks for this another great video. With my Ioniq 38, I try to drive efficiently and I achieve these consumption levels on a daily basis during summer. I have two remarks about your video :
1) In order to ensure no efficiency gain is coming from downhill, a round trip should be done : even if it is downhill driving on some sections, you will necessarly have as much uphill driving because you are going back to the same place.
2) If you use the brake pedal, you are not necessarily using the brake pads. EVs, like hybrid cars use brake blending, which means that it uses a mix of electric motor regen and brake pads when the foot brake pedal is pressed. For mild braking it would be almost 100% regen and for very strong braking it will use the braking pads in addition to regen. What I noticed on my vehicle is that even when I use the brake pedal it is mostly only regen which is equivalent to using the regen pads on the steering wheel. Note : long press on the left regen pad results in a strong regen that can stop the car. It is not as strong as flooring the foot brake pedal, so it shouldn't be used in emergencies.
I'm guessing that it's good practice to brake hard from time to time to ensure that the pads and discs get used and don't sieze up, which can be an issue with EVs, I understand.
@@staffordian Yes, indeed. However the friction brakes actually go into action at EVERY single stop, at the end of braking, from few miles per hour to zero.
I reset obc my 28 kWh Ionic early summer, now it's 9.3 kWh/100km. For me, 100 km costs about 1 euro. All costs per month, taxes, insurance, "gasoline" is about 50 euro per month.
Nice video! You say no breaking, but actually if you press the brake you regen. So if you brake very subtle, you won't be using your brake discs. That is, for the final few miles per hour.
I've just extended the lease on mine because none of the newer EV's can match it for all round practicality and efficiency. Wish Hyundai would stop making SUV's and do an updated Ioniq! Also always drive mine in eco as full power is still available if you floor it.
They have the Ioniq 6
@@royd63ukthe bigger battery that they have put in has reduced the efficiency of the car, it’s closer to 4.5-5 miles/kWh than the 5.5-6.5 miles/kWh seen in this video and that I also experience with my Ioniq 28kWh. Plus the shape of the boot makes the Ioniq 6 not very practical for families or trips to B&Q with stuff to load. I wonder what they were thinking 😢
Hyundai and Kia will eventually go down the path of bankruptcy like GM did of they carry on making SUVs just on time when the appetite for them disappears
@@Nikoo033they were thinking upmarket.
Code for more profits for the more luxury and pretentious feel.
@@toyotaprius79 we’llsee. In the meantime, they have secured contracts to supply batteries to various EV manufacturers in Europe, reinforcing their reputation regarding the quality and reliability of the batteries they’ve built for EVs.
Ah Matt that did give me a chuckle: man sets out to film vid about economical driving, man forgets to drive economically.😂
My old dad always struggled to make ends meet so he taught me how to drive efficiently from a very young age, I'm knocking on 65 now so that was a while ago and it's second nature to me and my wife has learned from me to drive in the same way.
When we got our Premium last year we taught ourselves, with your help, to drive it efficiently. The left hand pedal can be held if necessary to bring it to a complete halt, keep Auto Hold on, touch brake to remain in place. I have to consciously make an effort to use the brakes hard every so often to clean them.😂
By the way the only thing we struggled with was cooling and heating using too much power, this video has finally made me understand that it's setting the correct temp that is vital, so cheers for that. Not too low in summer not too high in winter, think it's gone in now.
We drive in Normal mode as a rule, I slip it into Sport to join a fast road from a short slip road. Reason we don't bother with Eco mode any more is because I once charged it to 100% on our local rapid (no home charging, no worries, again thanks in part to your earlier videos) because I was very slow getting around the supermarket. This was in the first few weeks of ownership and the GOM said 217 in Eco, 216 in Normal and 214 in Sport. I reckon as the difference is so marginal we might as well drive in comfort unless we run very short on juice which never happens.
Oh and we had a Kona as courtesy car when it went in for the warranty recalls, couldn't get better than 4.3m/kWh out of it, very disappointing. Plus the boot was so much smaller, I couldn't believe it, had to put a seat down to get my walker in. Our boot swallows it and five bags of shopping! Seemed extraordinary in such a big looking car.
Anyway, thanks Matt for doing this video, it showed me we're doing ok.👍
I love the paddles for going downhill…set maximum regen to maintain speed and life’s easy.
I have one and it's great! Get over 5miles per kwh without trying. My GOM in the summer normally says 213 miles with a full battery.
21:10 You don't need to 'turn on the regen' when you brake, the car uses regen for you until quite low speeds. If you remember your 28, you can see the regen effect bottom left of the dashboard as a series of blue blocks. I'd be surprised if the 38 doesn't do the same.
A very senior engineer at Tesla (ex-Lotus and a mate of mine) has told me a couple of times how impressed they were with the way that Hyundai had integrated the braking and regen to be nearly faultless.
it does😁
Yes the dash does show the regening. But if you are braking already, you cannot adjust the regen. Its then just brakes only.
@@GoGreenAutos then regen is based on how hard you press the pedal!
@@FFVoyager No, I tested this a few times and you get no additional regen. Once brakes take over, that's it. Which is something that catches some drivers out and you see social media posts complaining how dangerous their car is.
Got the 2021 version and regularly get 5.5 to 6.5
Love it. Someone actually hit it in a car park recently so it’s been in the garage. Had a mokka e as a hire car and the efficiency of that was terrible compared to the ioniq
Like ive said before, max i got on my regular comute was 8miles/kwh, but normally it was 6.5 or thete abouts. Now im in the kona 64 , thats shapped like a brick so getting 5.5 and sonetimes up to 6.5 on a good day. Best efficiency is with regen set to zero therefore you have more control over how and when you slow down. Better to coast than brake late. Taught by a car efficiency driver. Works for me on petrol and diesel cars. Ford focus 1.0 70mpg, mondeo 2.0 diesel 85mpg.
Ioniq Classic and Ionic Facelift are exceptional cars, to this day this are the cars to buy for most people who want some serious car for their money! Extremely reliable, extremely low consumption, sadly the facelift charges a little slow which is a pity, a sit seems caused by bad firmware, battery temperature is usually too cold for decent charging, escpecially in winter, that would be so easy to overcame if Hyundai would not stop doing stuff for cars once they are not produced anymore.
Top tip - If you touch the graphic of car when on the EV screen, you can save a few steps getting to consumption and drive history info.
Note if you hold the left hand flappy paddle you get maximum regen without the friction brakes coming into play.
im not sure about the newer(2020/2021) but the 2019 and older holding the left paddles does nothing. its just to adjust the levels. the max is level 3 and holding it on three will do nothing extra.
With an efficient EV, you can also consider it a boost to the charging speed too. If an EV is 25% more efficient than another EV with the same charging speed, you effectively are getting an extra 25% in charging speed as you are getting 25% 'extra miles' .
Thats why i love the 28kWh ioniq with its supreme efficiency and dlat charging at 69kW until 77%.
It can cover a lot of miles quickly (including charging)
It is actually quicker than the 38kWh over long trips thanks to this difference in charging speed 😅
Yes its definitely an efficiency king !!! I love it
Most Hyundai & KIA EVs are very efficient, Ioniq is king. Without trying on A & B roads with air con, regen level 1 & auto regen and standard mode the other half in a 39kW 2021 facelift Kona got 6.68 mi/kWh over 11.8 miles and in a 2021 E-Niro 64kWh 6.53 mi/kWh over 56.54 miles and 6.4 mi/kWh on return 57.78 mile journey and the GOMS are very accurate. As you say it is most efficient not to use the energy in the first place than to try to claw some wasted excess energy back with regen
Extremely impressive efficiency. Great video with very easily actionable advice!
Not in love with mi/kWh, but I get that that is the standard in the UK and US.
We use kWh/100km here in Canada which flips the thinking from what you get to what you consume.
I get about 14 kWh/100km average on my Kona Electric which is about 4.4 mi/kWh for a predicted range of 281mi or 450km. 7 mi/kWh is incredible! That's less that 8.9 kWh/100km which puts it into the class of ultra-efficient EVs like the Aptera.
I'm curious how I could do with intentionally efficient driving in the Kona. I doubt I could exceed 5mi/kWh (stay under 12.4kWh/100km) on a realistic drive. I've done it, but it's definitely do to ending my drive after coming down a massive hill from the highway to my house.
I love my Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh 2018. We always drive in eco mode as the normal setting can be a bit jerky due to the greater torque. Even more jerky in sport mode so we never use that mode.
I thought my air con was broken when I put it in Eco! 😅
I have the older 2019 and love it. I just leave it in eco and change it to sport when I want to embarrass a v8 mustang
Another excellent video outlining its virtues. And from past ones it’s battery life longevity.
I’ve spent ages researching EVs in the used market that are in my range. The Ionic and Kona come on top in all but the charging speed. I could live with that on long journeys but I don’t think my partner would
The Ioniq 28kWh charges at 66kW which surprisingly makes long trips shorter than driving with the 38kWh model (by 20-25 min on average). If they had put the 38kWh with a similar charging capability, it would have been a killer EV.
Using the efficiency to calculate your available range is less accurate than using: (100%/78%) x 166 miles displayed = 213 miles. Which is pretty much what you had displayed at the start. 😁 but yes, your recent 7.4 miles/kWh helped increase the predicted range.
Great video keep up the good work
Has the battery coolant issue finally been resolved in your Ioniq?
It went in for the coolant flush recall and has been fine since. It was fine before too!
I own the 28kWh model which I prefer as it has better charging than the 38kWh model.
I much prefer the external looks of the 28kWh over the 38kWh.
Ioniq with Kona's 64kWh battery pack would make an awesome EV range-wise
Just bought one of these to replace my MG5 SR which after MG serviced it would no longer charge from solar. . Should have bought an Ioniq in the first place as it's a better car in every single way. . It's a novelty pushing a button on the infotainment screen and seeing something actually happen !!!
That's very impressive. I did a couple of 200 mile trips over the Bank Holiday in my 28kWh Ioniq & was very pleased to get 6.1 & 5.9 miles/kWh. It included quite a bit of motorway but a lot of slow traffic. Do you find that the 38kWh is more efficient than your previous 28kWh Ioniq.
Many say the 28kWh is more efficient. But there's not much between them. Its been too long since since I was driving the 28kWh myself, as my partner was then driving it for about 1.5 years. So I can't really remember if it was any more efficient. They're pretty identical in terms of efficiency.
@@GoGreenAutos how's your French?
See Essai conso Hyundai Ioniq 38 : mieux que la 28 on UA-cam This is the only direct comparison test I've seen between the two
ua-cam.com/video/sOb8i9Y6pw0/v-deo.htmlsi=oJfTpIxd7XbdKSVY
The 28 was 14% more efficient in town (30mph) 10% more efficient on normal roads (50mph) and 7% better on motorways (80mph). The figures they got are broadly similar to what I'd expect at those speeds (6.9, 5.97 and 3.72 mi/kWh)
@@FFVoyager I'm surprised its that much. Both me and my partner have been driving both the 28 & 38 and not noticed any difference in efficiency, when doing just normal driving.
@@GoGreenAutos it would be interesting to see a test done with the cars here.
My guess is that, with one following another and over a sensible distance, we'd get something similar.
2015 Zoe and drive like a granny. 4 miles to kW is hard work
Thanks Matt. Real talk: You've owned both the 28 and 38kWh Ioniqs, which one would you choose?
I keep going round in circles between the two versions because the extra capacity and interior of the 38 are appealing but the 28's are a few K less expensive.
Now I've both for some time, I'd say the 38kWh...just for the larger sat nav screen and the extra 50 miles range. But there's not much between them, as it is the same car. The 38kWh is only a very mild refresh.
But I much prefer the external looks of the 28kWh.
The BIG difference is that the 38kWh Ioniq can only charge up to 45kW and with a multi-phases charging curve, whereas the 28kWh Ioniq can charge up to 66kW with a very simple 2 phases charging curve. The result is that the 28kWh Ioniq is quicker over long trips than the 38kWh, regardless its larger range. For some, this has been a deal breaker because basically with the 28 you will have to stop frequently but not for long each time (15-25 min), while with the 38 when you stop it will take a good 35-45 min at least. We’re talking 15%-80% or 15%-94% of charging.
@@Nikoo033 For long trips yes. But that additional 50 mile range from the 38kWh model means that I rarely will ever need to rapid charge the 38kWh and I regularly do 3+ hour trips without needing to stop for a charge. It all depends on how long your trips are of course. Very long distance driving, the 28kWh is quicker. If your long trips are mostly under 200 miles, the 38kWh is quicker as no tops are required. That's a lot more convenient.
17:15 - I did a 430 mile run in February, paying no attention to the efficiency whatsoever and it got 4.6mi/kWh in the 5c cold, wet and wind. That's about as bad as I could make it (and there are some EV's out there that won't get close to that in good conditions!)
I'd say its not "some". Its the majority of other EVs. 4.6 mpkWh is the best most EVs can achieve.
I've just done over 200 miles ( Notts to east coast and back ) in a 30kwh leaf , best I could do was 4.7 ( thought that was good ) the Ioniqs efficacy is the way all EV's should be aiming for .
Helpful thanks.
Hi Matt, great video. I love my 2020 38kw Ioniq can you tell me what the battery care is for on the energy information screen as I’ve never seen it move from 0.00kW? Thanks
I'm not sure. Possibly battery heating??
Hi have a Hyundai ionic e/v and had a problem were the charger did not recognise my e/was connected and hence no battery charging.Hyundai did not no what the problem was and were too busy to help and gave me. AA breakdown number but the AA could not help. So I decided to have a go my self, the first thing I did was check the car charger plug to see if the car end was locked and found it was not so I’m pulled the car plug release cable and found rthis cleared the problem and was able to charge my e/v. Not sure if this is a common fault
There's a common (but I've not yet experienced this) fault with the charge port lock actuator and it will get sorted under warranty.
I have been wathing the videos about the new e-3008. The long range one will have a 98kWh battery and claimed range of 435 miles. If it had the IONIQ level of efficiency it would be over 700 miles!
I do like the look of the new e-3008. Its a shame these new vehicles can't get their efficiency better and instead have to fit huge batteries to get the range.
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Press the EV button on the dash or go to EV in the menu. The next video on the channel, out Sunday 4pm, is about the menus and settings in the Ioniq.
Noticed prices rising again on these as popular with taxi drivers
Good. They got too cheap. They were £2k less than hybrids a few weeks ago!
Another very informative video.
The Ioniq is a fab example of what BEVs should achieve. I would have gone the Kona route - because of the larger battery, but the 38kWh Ioniq seems to be quite competitive in the range, all things considered.
I needed at least the boot access of the Kona and eventually realised even that was not quite large enough for my needs - hence the 5 was needed. The AWD was my choice for a bit of fun and the towing capacity.
I nearly always drive my Ioniq 5 AWD in its auto regen setting and use the left paddle when coming to a stop or for heavier regen if slowing/stopping in a straight line. The difference between eco and normal is not worth worrying about most of the time, as it will be in rear wheel drive unless really needed.
I obviously can’t get anywhere near the Ioniq efficiency - I am content with nearly 300 miles range at present, as a comparison. I am not permitted to accelerate/brake harshly, and 52-54 mph, on single carriageways, generally means I catch up with traffic at the next roundabout/intersection. Using the whole 300 HP is an entirely different matter.🙂
I hope my battery lasts as well as those in the Ioniq, as this motor is a ‘keeper’ as far as I am concerned. I’ve only charged once, with my wife on board, in over 5 months.
My only question to Matt (and others) is whether the battery longevity is absolutely typical - or only in ‘selected’ ownership/cars?
What do you mean by “typical”?
@@Nikoo033 From the ‘net: “having the distinctive qualities of a particular type of … thing”.
Therefore virtually universal? Very few that deteriorate more quickly? All the same regarding the battery ageing? Not cherry-picked examples - ie not exceptional?
Apart from the Kona battery recall, are all Hyundai batteries of the same ilk? (obviously not referencing a person in this context and not in the usual deleterious connotation)🙂
@@oliver90owner most feedbacks you will find on the net (Ioniq forum, or UA-cam) report that the Ioniq 2016-2022 has a battery that seems to withstand time and high mileage. Mine has over 60000 miles, 4 years old, and the battery is still at 100% state of health (info from last service) and has lost less than 2% of total capacity. The only thing that you have to worry about is to avoid rapid charging as much as possible. Prefer destination charging at 7kW in most cases if possible. Recently some car manufacturers (I forgot which ones, look it up), have announced that they will soon get the batteries for their EVs from Hyundai/Kia. I think just this is testimony for the quality of Hyundai’s batteries.
Impressive efficiency...what on earth have manufacturers been playing at recently? I'll exclude Tesla from that question.
Feed the plebs with what they think they want instead of what is good for them 🤷🏻♂️ (sounds like junk food 😂)
Insurance Group?
KiaOra Matt or any Ioniq user I have a sharp hill to climb on leaving the property gate . This is on metal (gravel ) is there a button for hill assist ? This morning the skid icon came up (orange) I generally go slow slow but thought I was going backwards even though I was in drive . Only 3rd day of owning car . I do love it. Thanks heaps for any help. Ria
Hill assist is on all the time. If you come off the brake, the car will not roll back (for a few seconds anyway) which gives you time to press the accelerator. Or if you enable AutoHold, it will hold the car on the brakes until the accelerator is pressed.
I’ve got a 2017 Kia Niro phev, been looking for a while for a cheap second hand full ev. Would you recommend this for a uber driver ?
Depends how much mileage you need/do per day as it is important to realise that the Ioniq 38 charges slower than the Ioniq 28 (i.e. 45kW max versus 66kW). So charging times are way different between the two models.
I’m not sure if you have covered it, I’m interested to know who drives more efficiently, the car maximising the ‘Auto Cruise’ as much as possible V the Human?
I haven't done a video on that, but from my experience, I can always drive more efficient than allowing the car to do it. Mainly because the car doesn't change the speed with gradients.
Another quick question - have you done any comparison of the Ioniq to a Kona?
No I've not.
You mention that the 28Kw charges faster than the 38kw when using Charging Stations on a long journey, but if you are home charging is there any difference between the 2? And, do you need a Home Charging Port, or is a simple garage electric connection enough?
My 38kWh came with a portable charger that plugs into a standard 10A power outlet. I only drive about 20km a day so just plug in on the weekend to charge at home. I try to charge between 9am and 3pm when our tariff is only 8c/kWh as well. Costs me bugger all to run! I've owned it for over a month now and charging has only cost me $14. Petrol would likely have cost me around $140 in that time.
If you do decide to get a faster home (AC) charger, just keep in mind this car single phase only for AC charging. So a 7kW charger (32A 1P) will charge faster than an 11kW charger (16A 3P), since it will be drawing from only 1 phase no matter how many your charger supports.
Thanks for the detailed response@@matthew35673m
I suppose it doesn't really need much more than 7kw charging as the battery is so small, and home-charging overnight or whenever for several hours isn't really an issue.
Clearly a very efficient run getting over 7m/kWh. Your average speed achieved was I think 27mph approx. Yes of course you were driving as best you could to the speed limits and obviously significant traffic will tend to dictate your speed achieved no matter what higher speed you might like to target. Technically speaking running an average speed of 40mph or less is called hypermiling (B.Nyland) and is usually employed to eke out battery energy if you are low and need to get to the next charger. If you did a clear run in light traffic on dual carriageways and motorways your average speed might climb up to 50 -55mph or so and corresponding efficiency achieved would be a lot less. That said; the Hyundai efficiency would still beat a lot of other brands. Also of course experiencing light traffic is probably a rare event unless you travel at late night hours.
Absolutely. I get 4.9-6 miles/kWh at motorway speed depending on wind and slope with my Ioniq 28. Still impressive.
Hi Matt,
I’m looking at selling my MG4 and “downgrading” to a early Ioniq 38kwh to save good chunk of money on depreciation.
How are these 38kwh ioniqs reliability wise ? Anything serious to look out for ?
Thanks
Pretty bullet proof. There is a current recall ongoing to change the coolant as the original coolant crystallises. The door handles can break. But all of this is sorted by the warranty. Have a look through the playlist to find all this info as many Ioniq videos on the channel now ua-cam.com/play/PLW0oq-rvufntC8Qk6ONQjJ7nncwqhp9LL.html
@@GoGreenAutos Yeah I saw the video on the coolant recall, is the consensus that the recall has worked ? Seams like it would be difficult to dissolve crystals from inside a battery. Cheers
@@dan123collins On both of our Ioniqs, it has seemed to have worked. Some owners get the "refill coolant" message again fairly soon after having the recall done and in my view that is indicating that the flushing wasn't done enough times. Some people are reporting that the job was done in an hour. This is too quick. Hyundai themselves says it takes 2 hours in the TSB document and this is therefore the amount of labour they pay the dealer for. The reality is it takes nearer 3 hours. If anyone is getting it done in an hour, it would indicate that they have not done enough flushes (or even any!) and therefore not properly flushed out the solids.
@@GoGreenAutos thanks for the Detailed answer and your time, appreciate you supporting / reviewing used EV’s.
I particularly liked when you did your hoist / lift videos and your common fault videos as it’s good to see what EV’s are lasting well.
21 plate consistent 5.8 on A roads at the moment. 187 miles on a full charge. I like racing Teslas though.
Aerodynamics is the answer. Most EV are in SUV boxy shapes which isn't helping in that aspect.
😂
Where do you find your economy during a drive as you seemed to do mid-drive?
Use the buttons on the right hand side of the steering wheel to bring up the relevant menu.
@@GoGreenAutos Tried many of them. Perhaps a software update that I haven't had?
@@wrutherfordx3x No software updates are only on the head unit. I've got a video coming which goes through all these. You press the menu button to scroll down about 5 different screens, then on most there is a sub screens which you then press the up and down keys to navigate through them.
@@GoGreenAutos I'll keep my eye out. Brilliant again. Thanks.
23 mph drive … for 7.4 mi/kWh is great. 75 mph drive …. for how much would be ?
Motorway driving is typically 5.4 mpkWh. See ua-cam.com/video/6UJtl6nBJPA/v-deo.htmlsi=OBxvfHzzWwHWzTrC
Ioniq looks great but no boot divider to split the boot for a dog! Any tips?!
No, as not a dog owner. But I'm sure there must be generic products for hatchbacks which will work ok in an Ioniq.
@GoGreenAutos you’d think so wouldn’t you, it’s definitely a gap in the market, nothing out there! :)
How much can you supply one for
This one will be up for sale in about 3 weeks time.
Idiotic of Hyundai to ditch this perfect hatch for the less practical Kona, just because it's a crossover with a bigger battery.
I guess their sales dictated the change.
@@GoGreenAutosof course.
There's a brick wall at the end of limitless growth for profits/crossovers.
I was shocked i managed to go down less than 9kwh/100 on secondary road with up and downs, but perhaps 1000 meters up, 500m altimeter difference between start and arrival ! On an ioniq 28. my car displays 290 km when fully charged... (100 000km done with that car).
My only gripe on the Ioniq is that road and tire noise isn't on part with the other qualities of the car. Great car though better sound proofing would make even better!!
I have the 28 and have consistently found the car extremely quiet on various roads and motorway sections.🤷🏻♂️
I assume that the battery should only be charged to 80% normally so not so many miles!
No not at all. This 80% thing is a myth that should be ignored, unless you have a Tesla that has a non-LFP pack.
I charge my 28 to 100% at home where it does most of it's charging. 45,000 miles and there is no obvious degradation.
When I charge at a rapid (and I've not done that this year(!) I'd charge from sub 20% to 80% in 15 minuets and be on my way.
If you need 100% then charge to that. I commute 80 miles a day. 80% is fine all year round! I have free charging at work so on Friday I charge it to 100% for the weekend
I believe the 80% rule is a good rule when fast charging but when charging at home at 7kW (the max that an Ioniq can AC charge) just charge to 100%.
When fast charging after ,80% the charge speed strips considerably. Better to unplug and drive towards the next fast charge and charge again to max 80%.
My Model 3 LFP is showing 118wh/km (a bit over 5) over 70,000 kms in an aggressive driving environment using only one pedal driving. There is nowhere that I could drive for as long as 140 minutes without covering more than 160 kms for fear of being run over ……and it has a larger frontal area including 235mm tyres.
Basic applied physics at work constantly gets results.
Anyone here have an opinion on premium vs premium se?
If it helps I’ve just recently purchased a 38kwh Premium SE and I absolutely love it. I had a Volvo S90 on lease before the Ioniq so was used to a lot of gadgets - and the premium se has more gadgets than the Volvo did!
I found when shopping around the price difference between the premium and premium se was really small. I prefer leather seats as they seem easier to keep clean and I know the premium SE has rear cross traffic alert. I had this on the Volvo and found it really helpful in car parks etc (I’m not sure if it’s fitted to the premium trim but don’t think it is).
Matt is right about the efficiency - I’m regularly been getting 5 to 6 miles per kWh and that’s using the air con and ventilated seats etc with 2 passengers in the car! Highest I’ve seen on my trips so far was about 6.7 and again that was with passengers, AC on and not a particularly eco effort lol.
I’ve no regrets at all buying the ioniq so far - in fact it’s probably the one of the best cars I’ve had in years. At the moment we pay 9.5p per kWh from 12 to 7am (eon drive tariff) so it’s genuinely costing pennies per mile for electricity.
@@RickyG84that’s helpful thanks
See ua-cam.com/video/oiRv-UvAvEE/v-deo.htmlsi=8gSz_DQT3CUFQEMm
Its for the 28kWh model, but its all pretty much the same on the 38kWh.
@@RickyG84 my wife has an S90 Inscription Pro with all the gadgets and even she's impressed with the SE! 😮
@@GoGreenAutos that video was perfect! Thanks 😊
Great video keep up the good work