It's my understanding that even Nikwax doesn't recommend "TX Direct Wash-In" for the Keb Eco Shell (which I believe is your jacket in this vid) because the Keb has a wicking layer. I think Nikwax suggests the "TX Direct Spray-On" for Hardshells like the Keb. Can you clarify?
@@OutdoorsMagicTV I received this info from Nikwax in an email response: "Nikwax recommends the use of Spray-On over Wash-In if the garment has an intentional moisture-wicking liner that is designed to transport sweat away ..." which the Keb Eco Shell has such a liner. But here's the thing -- you did this test with Wash-In and made the water bead and roll off. Was this, in fact, a Keb Eco Shell Jacket with a wicking layer? Do you stand by this test? Is the water-proofing holding up? What is your opinion now after using the Wash-In? In spite of what Nikwax says (above) do you still recommend the Wash-In process/product as you performed in this video? Will you use Wash-In next time? There are so many products and suggestions out there that it becomes confusing. I really appreciate your effort in making this vid. I would rather use Wash-In because spraying is a bloody mess. But please clarify if you still recommend "Wash-In TX Direct" for the Keb Eco Shell jacket. Thx ...David
The Nikwax reproofing solution basically 'sticks' to the existing DWR on the face fabric of the jacket, effectively topping it up. That's why using the wash-in version doesn't affect the inside of a shell or inhibit breathability (because only the outside of a jacket is treated with a DWR coating). That's also why Nikwax works best if you use it fairly regularly, i.e. before most of the DWR on your jacket has already worn away or degraded.
@@mattymountains thanks for advice. I'm gonna get Nikwax for my 'smart' waterproofs. What do you recommend for a 'rough' jacket with most of the proofing faded?
Great question. It depends on the fabric type I suppose. Worth taking a look at Nikwax's full range - they've got solutions for softshell, polycotton, cotton and loads more. Will
Does this work after washing a GTX jacket with softener?
Very useful, thanks
Great video thanks a lot!
No probs. The time of year for it! Will
It's my understanding that even Nikwax doesn't recommend "TX Direct Wash-In" for the Keb Eco Shell (which I believe is your jacket in this vid) because the Keb has a wicking layer. I think Nikwax suggests the "TX Direct Spray-On" for Hardshells like the Keb. Can you clarify?
@davidcook5858 I wasn't aware of that! Interesting though. Where did you read that? Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV I received this info from Nikwax in an email response: "Nikwax recommends the use of Spray-On over Wash-In if the garment has an intentional moisture-wicking liner that is designed to transport sweat away ..." which the Keb Eco Shell has such a liner. But here's the thing -- you did this test with Wash-In and made the water bead and roll off. Was this, in fact, a Keb Eco Shell Jacket with a wicking layer? Do you stand by this test? Is the water-proofing holding up? What is your opinion now after using the Wash-In? In spite of what Nikwax says (above) do you still recommend the Wash-In process/product as you performed in this video? Will you use Wash-In next time? There are so many products and suggestions out there that it becomes confusing. I really appreciate your effort in making this vid. I would rather use Wash-In because spraying is a bloody mess. But please clarify if you still recommend "Wash-In TX Direct" for the Keb Eco Shell jacket. Thx ...David
P.S. Above all is the Wash-In still working like in the video? Thx again -- David
Would love to see some updated Paramo gear videos, particularly the Alta or perhaps the Enduro Windproof vs the Bentu Windproof systems.
@EVLitterPicker will see what I can do! Have been enjoying the Helki recently.
Thank yoi
Thanks for the vid but doesn't the wash in waterproof stop your sweat from getting out through the micro pores?
It's not something I've experienced. I believe it's supposed to be specially formulated to prevent this. Will
The Nikwax reproofing solution basically 'sticks' to the existing DWR on the face fabric of the jacket, effectively topping it up. That's why using the wash-in version doesn't affect the inside of a shell or inhibit breathability (because only the outside of a jacket is treated with a DWR coating). That's also why Nikwax works best if you use it fairly regularly, i.e. before most of the DWR on your jacket has already worn away or degraded.
@@mattymountains What he said 😁
@@mattymountains thanks for advice. I'm gonna get Nikwax for my 'smart' waterproofs. What do you recommend for a 'rough' jacket with most of the proofing faded?
Has anyone tried this solution on construction type of clothing? Let me know your results!
Great question. It depends on the fabric type I suppose. Worth taking a look at Nikwax's full range - they've got solutions for softshell, polycotton, cotton and loads more. Will
Construction waterproofs tend to be oil waxed
@@A_Pt_9298 thank you. Will look into it