I tell you what, there's one more point after the sad one. You just no longer care if you fall in public. You don't try to laugh it off and don't really feel anything (a bit hurt but it lasts a couple of minutes and you soon forget).
I mean, it's always a bit funny, but i can understand not wanting to makes the people who feel "nervous" or embarassed by our stare. It's never sad tho. You do get worried when it seems rly bad on the contrary.
@@mikuramsay However, most people just evaluate the severity based on whether it's appropriate for _everyone_ to draw attention to it, and since Suisei said that it was a minor injury, most others would just move on with their actions.
@@TheShiningEnergy It's not giving help, but if you're okay then people will pretend to not see, whereas if you're bleeding OF COURSE only then they will provide help and attention
I think that's part of being in a place with different cultures than you're used to. Suisei mentioned that she came from the countryside where I assume people are more tightly knit, hence why she was shocked that people were ignoring her at first.
Yes and no. It's actually a bit more severe than that, though culture does play a factor. To illustrate this, here's another story. A man in Japan started to have a heart attack on a subway platform in Tokyo. The reason why was later to be found to be because of overwork and stress. When he started having a heart attack, **no one moved to help him**. Not even to call an ambulance. He only survived because a foreigner who was visiting moved to help him get medical attention. As for why no one else moved to help him, and this is according to native Japanese people, it's because they have a strong collectiveness mindset. They created this mindset as a result of having to deal with so many natural disasters regularly over there over several centuries; if a person acts selfishly, they run the risk of endangering other people. They by itself is fine, but some people in Japan feel it has been driven to extremes as of late, if the earlier story I presented to you is of any indication. Especially since Tokyo's been rebuilt to withstand certain disasters such as earthquakes and tsunamis after a particularly nasty tsunami some years ago practically flattened it. You can actually here it in the story that the person Suisei was talking to told. No one moved to help the drunkard until someone else decided to take initiative. What's more, the person Suisei was talking to regarded the drunk as troublesome person, despite not knowing why he was drunk and despite him not doing anything other than trying not to vomit on the train. And she probably wasn't the only one. One particular Japanese person by the name of Shogo (you can find him on UA-cam) pointed out that international rankings of countries and their likelihood to help others around them, Japan was ranked DEAD LAST in that regard. They will put up a friendly face to foreigners, as saving face with others is a big deal in Japan, but when it comes to their own citizens, including foreigners who have naturalized into Japanese citizens, they'll more likely turn a blind eye, even if they are in need. And that's why even native Japanese people feel this is a big problem; after all, if helping each other is how they survive, what good can come of abandoning others over minor things? It doesn't help that matter is not just about the "offender" being troublesome, but also because no one wants to break from the herd and stand out by helping others in order to protect themselves and avoid losing face. So yeah, tl;td, it's not just about being the countryside. It's far bigger than that.
@@Dragonpit I understand your viewpoint. However, within the context of the clip, it seems more fitting for it to be a Tokyo vs Countryside thing since Suisei herself is also Japanese and she was shocked about that incident.
@@Dragonpit There's something called the "Bystander Effect". Usually, people will not want to make the first move even if it is socially deemed the right thing to do. However, once someone else makes the first move, others will come in to help. Just like in the video, if the woman did not pass the bag over, the man in the suit will likely not make a move.
@@amdrandom yeah this guy tries hard making this into a cultural thing when this happens just as much in highly individualistic cultures in big cities such as london or new york, where people are less inclined to help when there are greater people around where there are witnesses and observers than in rural areas where there are fewer people and are a community. bystander effect is what its called and there are studies about it. its has more to do with the psychology of a person than cultural.
@@kenneth.lim3390 in Spain (where I live) if you encounter someone having a seizure you administer cpr first, call and ambulance and if needed you drive them to the hospital and stay with them till a familiar arrives.
Just like here in Indonesia. If a traffic accidents happened involving a bike / motorcycle, people WILL help the bike first, then the driver lmao. Its "Bro is your bike okay" first rather than "dude are you okay"
Yeah, I was about to say: When I see someone lightly fall and hurt their butt, I don't raise attention because I assume this must've been embarrassing for them on their own. At the same time though, you really want to help...
Yeah, I can kinda appreciate it when people don't make a big deal out of me falling on my ass x) I mean, sure, if I really looked out of it, was lying unconscious or screaming in pain it's one thing, but when you're okay and all you feel is annoyance over that darn icy bump that got you...
I usually wait a moment to see if the person is gonna just laugh it off and stand up. If they don't, I offer to at least hold their bag while they stand up or clean the dust
Something similar happend to me before. I once tripped on a place where there was a lot of people and there was this guy laughing at me, I was angry for a second until he came up to me, picked me up and told me to laugh it off and called me a homie. He made my situation less embarrassing and treated me like a friend. We pass by each other every other day and still calls me a homie
KoroAzu's experience has taught me too now, that we should try consider more positive outlook even of the first impressions are bad. Great clip & editing.
I can understand that not looking at you slipping is a form of kindness. Cause I've experienced the opposite where everyone was looking at me, lol. That shit was embarrassing. It's also hard to try and help someone when they fall, since there are the sorts that get angry when you try to help them when it's something minor and getting involved when it's something major is even more troublesome since it can lead to legal issues that can hound you for the rest of the day if not months.
This reminds me of that video where a Northern British was forced to do a public apology after saying "Good Morning" on a London train to a stranger lol
I had a similar story in front of KFC, i fell because the floor tile was wet, the girl next to the KFC shop suddenly laugh out very loud (probably unintentional), it was embarrassing as hell.
Man I can relate to the train incident, traveled to Tokyo and met a lot of peeps, after having fun drinking at a karaoke bar I noticed a buddy went in too hard on the sauce and I helped him get back, my fear of him puking on the late train back came true, two salarymen were in front of us, I apologized to them and they handed me their pocket napkins and water lol, I used my foot and napkins to clean up the mess, then used my buddies hat as a bucket next time he decided to puke again lmaoo. Wasn’t gonna let others donate more napkins. Overall they’re definitely kinder in Japan compared to the here in the west 😂
deserved more upvotes, people here are more drawn to negative stuff / drama than positive which is sad. my experience of japan was mostly positive, memorable one was when i was in akihabara and a japanese dude initiated the conversation and an old japanese dude who was too friendly and too talkative that we had to leave since we're pressed for time lol which contrary to what everyone says that the japanese are cold which is very untrue. ive been to the country several times now and theyve been nothing but friendly and kind people
@@moggless shogo and nobita have covered this more extensively, but the japanese are more inclined to help foreigners as opposed to their own, basically because they don't want to be seen as being different from the others
@@ChriSX13 that's pretty much true in ethnically homogenous countries. In a way countries with multiracial inhabitants are more genuine in their treatment on others, regardless how good or bad it is. Granted there's still some inherent value in terms of kindess and consideration that comes from each cultural background.
@@ChriSX13just like he said. it also happens in your country you're just oblivious to it and act as if its a "japan thing" youre obviously clouded by your bias. i live in the philippines and i cant count the number of times foreigners are treated better than my own countrymen. stop living in an echochamber.
Kinda reminds me of Connor's story he told on Trash Taste where he was walking around in Tokyo and saw a guy on the floor crying and people just ignoring and walking past him...
Wow, reading your comment made me genuinely sad. Poor guy, I hope he's in a better place now. Crying in private is one thing, but to be crying on the floor in public, that's a special kind of emotional pain. Or I guess he could've stubbed his toe like REALLY hard, but I don't think that was it.
That sounds normal in Sweden. But if someone falls, there's no way I'm not going to see if they're ok. I think most are the same. Maybe I'll make an exception for a teenage or young adult guy, but even then I'll atleast take a glance and see if they seem to be ok. Also, if someone else takes initiative first, I'll just ignore them and leave. 3 seems to be the unwritten rule for how many will stop to help.
Well maybe Connor was there just to visit, but i bet 90% of the people there are hurrying to go somewhere else and they dont have the time to even look at other people, so i understand why people didnt talk to the guy crying cause they probably didnt even notice him.
Honestly, I prefer that. I'm American, but I always look the other way when someone does something like that, cause I feel like I'm saving them from the embarrassment to some degree.
Eh, also American, but I'd prefer if someone at least gave me a hand up. It's what I'd do, don't draw attention or make a big deal of it unless it's serious, just give them a hand up and be on my way.
I remember when I was younger, I drove my bike down a long street, a car suddenly drove out of a garage, and I pushed the front brakes instead of the rear brakes. I did a front flip and the bike landed on top of me. The people around just stood and looked at me, so I just got up and drove tf away from there
That what I thought it was. When I suddenly trip myself or fall down a set of stairs yeah I'd be embarrassed. So them actually walking by past me is cool I mean sure helping me stand up is better but lessening my embarrassment is still better than having someone laugh at you.
Reminds me of the time when i was on the night bus, and there was a young dude all pale behind me. Luckily I had a spare plastic bag in my back bag that I could give him. Not sure if he ended up using it, but atleast it would have been better than the bus floor. Moral of the story carry a plastic bag with your bag, so you can use it for shopping at a store or helping out someone.
I live in Tokyo and when I was leaving the last train some drunk guy was seconds from puking on my shoes, I had to jump and dodge that to avoid it. Its a pretty common situation innit.
Poor Suisei that's cold. It's better to help than try to see like nothing happened Awww KoroAzu's story is really heartwarming! I hope she'll have that chance one day xD
Weirdest experience I had in Tokyo was when I asked an older man (around his 50s) if he could point me to something I knew should have been really close. Mind you, I have a Japanese N1 and speaking and listening are what I believe to be my strong suits, so I never had any problem talking with Japanese people in a relatively natural way. So I ask this man about the whereabouts of X in Japanese, and I get no answer. Thinking he didn't hear me, I ask again, this time closer and more clearly. No answer, the guy keeps minding his business. I ask again, about a meter away from him, and I still get ignored completely, as if I was a ghost. I knew he wasn't blind, deaf or mute, and I knew he spoke Japanese, because a minute ago I'd seen him chatting happily with other people, but when it came to me, it was as if I didn't even exist. He was just looking straight ahead, doing his thing, not acknowledging my presence. So I just left and asked someone else who pointed me to what I was looking for. At the time, I really felt like some kind of invisible spirit, and it remains one of the weirdest experience of my life.
I'm torn between thinking that was actually kinda terrifying (in an existential way), or just really rude (or possibly xenophobic). Depending on the guy's age and disposition, he could have been one of those types that dislikes foreigners.
its funny because in my case a japanese was the one who initiated the conversation while browsing in akihabara, it was too bad i cant speak japanese the guy was really nice. i hope that one experience wont leave you with a bad impression of the country as there are plenty of good people there just like in any other country.
"people that go out and have fun leaves a bad image" now that's a sad way to think man. The dude went out, how is that bad??? Of course throwing up in public leaves a bad image, but then say that
People having fun shows a good image. People engaging in hedonistic debauchery because they lack impulse control - which is also fun - presents a bad image. Getting pissed to the point of puking on the train falls under the latter. I'm guessing the connotation was lost in translation.
@@the1necromancer I thought that was pretty clear. Being drunk is usually considered a choice, and I think most people would prefer to not get involved unless they know the guy.
Is this the sentiment behind the ばれへん spam whenever someone flubs lyrics or audio during a karaoke stream? Just them being polite by not paying attention to something embarrassing?
I have some things that happened to me in Japan There’s that one time I crashed into a little bump that my bicycle couldn’t get past because I couldn’t see and didn’t have glasses at the time, I flew near the middle of the road where cars usually go by but no one tried to help and just watched lol Another story, once... no, actually multiple times I’ve dropped my purse or keys in stations but there’s always someone willing to pick it up and give a heads up Long story short? No one will usually try to help if the “helping” might take “long” or it might include awkwardness, at least that’s what I got from my experience
Probably because company drinking parties are fairly common in Japan, from what I understand, so someone in a suit being piss drunk like that on the last train of the day probably isn't all *that* uncommon lol.
Here's the thing. There once a high school girl in East Jakarta who fell from a slippery stairs near me. I tried to help her, lend her a hand. She look at me, having this scared or disgusted face (or maybe thats just in my eye), refuse to be helped shyly / calmly, and gets up on her own, and walk away. That is the day i realized: 1. I am not handsome, and my face scares people 2. And or that girl is a rude girl Maybe thats why people don't want to help other anymore. They don't want to disturb people who don't want any help.
Kind of. I don't think that happens very often, but I do think just the off chance of being treated like that after lending help discourages people from doing it
Its called the bystander effect. Bigots here act like its jsut a japan phenomenon lol. Its also hilarious that you completely ignored koroazu's story about the 2 japanese helping the drunk dude.
@@moggless Jumping the gun by a mile, dude. As was pointed out, being impersonal is also a type of kindness in the right situation. And placing more emphasis on the embarrassment of the situation over the minor harm is indeed a Japanese trait. One that I would appreciate in the same scenario. Not every little slip and fall (or 2 word comment) requires a white knight.
@@moggless They always act like everything is a "Japanese thing" when it suits them. The only time they are against generalization is when it happens to their own country.
@@maninredhelm wtf are you even about? i jumped the gun when the idiot made a prejudiced comment that its a japan thing when this is a known phenomenon which is prevalent in big cities / metropolitan areas like new york or in london, and in this case, tokyo. its a social psychological theory wherein individuals are less likely to offer help when there are more people around as they dont want bear the responsibility alone. no, its not a "japanese" trait that is what a racist would say. making the correlation that being japanese and being unsympathetic is somehow connected is absurd and bigoted. ive experienced this first-hand and far worse than suisei where i got mugged and was surrounded by hundreds of people yet no one even tried to stop the mugger. i live in a 3rd world country and was lucky i didnt get stabbed, go look up the bystander effect there are plenty of social experiments that has been done in all parts of the world not just japan where this also happens. educate before embarassing yourself dude.
Same thing happened to my mom when we visited Japan. She fell really hard while boarding the train and people didn't even flinch or react, almost like they're robots which was really disturbing. Back in my country people always rush in to help whenever something happens to someone in public so that was a bit of a culture shock I guess.
Its called the bystander effect. Bigots here act like its jsut a japan phenomenon lol. Its also hilarious that you completely ignored koroazu's story about the 2 japanese helping the drunk dude.
@@HandleToBeDetermined there is a whole research / study about it. Greater people around a bystander are less likely to help than when there are fewer people around hence why it happens more in a metropolitan area.
A channel called Let's Ask Shogo recently made a video about these sorts of things. He says the Japanese culture of "minding your business" often leads to not helping people in need, and that people will mainly do so if they think not doing it will make them look bad.
Yeah, Japan and its weird ways of being "polite".. Here, if you fall, people will laugh at you but at the same time they be like "Hey bro, are you ok? let me help you"... But they don't stop laughing, of course xD In a way, it is better than just being completely ignored, that is sad.. This way at least you laugh with them lol And becomes a funny memory, instead of a sad one, like Suisei's
Tbf, as someone in my 20s and full health, therefore being capable of walking a minor fall off, I'd rather people ignore me. I'm getting the 'my kindness is not making a scene' shtick, unless the fallen is elderly, doesn't get up, scream in pain or some other thing that very clearly requires attention
Age and health is not everything.. When I was a kid, my cousin the same age as me (and healthier than me) jumped off the stairs after me, but he landed kinda badly. We were half way coming from school to home, it looked as if nothing happened but he twisted his ankle, it started swelling and I was helping him get home because of the pain. Young age means quick recovery, not less prone for injury. Imagine if she had twisted ankle and nobody helped her, she'd be getting home alone and worsening her condition. Now imagine she has a live or recording in a month, that'd probably affect a ton of things in her schedule. I think she'd rather be thankful for being helped and survive a little bit of shame than having stuff canceled due to injury. Also slipping and falling in to rain or snow/ice is no shame, things happen to everyone.
@@TheRealTonie I mean, there was the "scream in pain or some other thing that very clearly requires attention" part that this would likely fall under. Unless your cousin would literally do their best to walk like nothing happened with a twisted ankle for some reason
@@MrCh0o nah no scream and btw it was a guy. From outside it looked loke he just jumped, landed and I felt something is wrong, I saw how he landed and suddenly his foot started to ache. Not to the point to scream in pain but still. Heck, I even once broke a finger and all I felt was that something is wrong, the worker at the rope park asked me if everything is alright bcs I looked strange for a moment and then I say "I think I'm fine" then I look to check if I'm fine. "2 legs, 2 arms, 10 fingers... Wait was that finger always bend this way?" Hadn't he asked me I wouldn't even notice that. 😂 But if Suisei fell I doubt she did not scream. Even if so, I think, if someone nearby me falls and nobody is near to help them - he/she is alone and they look around possibly for some help then it's better to even at least ask if they are alright and if can get up if they didn't on their own yet. True one time I saw an adult/older woman (tho not a typical old granny) fall from her seat in a tram due to too high speed, but she recovered quickly on her own so there was even no time for helping her get up. I was on the other side of her and I noticed at least a few people took notice that she fell and that she was uninjured so we all felt relieved. It's better to take notice of those things, even if minor can cause some injuries that can affect them. (Also it will also make you remember better that this mac's stairs tend to be slippery during the rain or something lol)
I will never understand this. I don't even consider myself a kind person, but if anyone falls near me I instinctively inquire if they're okay and offer a hand to help them up and pick up their stuff. How is this not everyone's automatic response?
Same, but I can also understand the other side. They're worried about the person who fell, but they don't want to act and cause a scene. It's to save everyone from some embarrassment. To some people, pride matters a lot more than their well-being.
There’s a very simple answer: your environment and culture has trained you to react that way. That very same reason is why people don’t offer their hand to every person in need they run across. Not saying I agree with the mentality of leaving someone be, but to be the one person that chooses to help takes guts for some people
@@AlexisAlexander646 Ahh, must be the Canadian in me then. I've always theorized that one reason Canadians have the reputation of being friendly may be because during winter here, helping each other can be a matter of life or death. You help others in the hopes that when you need help, others will help you.
@@LethalShadow I certainly think that's a great mindset to have! Treating others the way you want to be treated may seem like a commonplace phrase for many, but in Japan, respect may important but so is pride unfortunately.
I guess it depends of the country. There are those where you can feel bad in the middle of the street and noone will help you. And those where you will always get a help, no matter who you are and in which condition you are. Better know your own country social responsibility. Of course even in the most egoistic countries there are kind people who can help you when others ignores you. Also attitude can be different depending of the people who needs help. And if everyone ignored beautiful woman in a trouble... well it's bad. A year ago, while crossing the street, I slipped in a puddle and fell, hitting my elbow on the concrete, and then lost consciousness. When I woke up, people stood around me, helped me get up, asked what was the matter, called me an ambulance where they helped me. And after that one woman even bought me a snack and I went home. I had no doubt that it would be so, I would have done the same in their place.
Its interesting thinking about this in contrast to a story korone told in the past. She cried because she failed to act when someone needed help near her and regretted it. Sometimes culture is instilled so deeply into people that its hard to break.
Dont twist her words. She never mentioned anything about it being a cultural thing. Thats scummy and dishonest towards her. And If i remember correctly someone did help and she thought ill of the guy for being a samaritan is what she regrets
@@moggless yo I need you to calm down white knight-san. No one claimed korone said it being a cultural thing. Thats my commentary. And if you got out of your feelings for a moment you'd actually learn something that it is a cultural thing just as Koro-san explained to suisei in the video right above you. You put others before yourself in JP and it is thought to be indirectly more polite to ignore a person dealing with something. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@CsRacks you implied it, dont play dumb. And koro was alluding to the bystander effect, which is a theory researched by actual psychologists ofwhich you are not. This is a global phenomenon and thereve been soical experiments and studies conducted go look it up and you might learn a thing. Its not a 'japanese' thing like any narrowminded simpleton would conclude like you just did. Its more psychological than cultural this happens inyour own country and mine as well particularly in big cities. Thats why suisei was shocked since she comes from the countryside if you actually pay attention to koro when she explained it to suisei and not twist peoples words to act on on your prejudicial feelings.
this happened in tokyo where its more prevalent in big cities. i live in one in my country where i got mugged. i was surrounded by hundreds of people yet not one even tried to stop the fcker. chased the guy was lucky i didnt get stabbed.
Big cities have a huge problem with bystander mentality. Things like this and much worse happen in New York every single day. Some people die on the sidewalk without anyone paying them attention.
@@LethalShadow Indeed. And I get the impression a "sketchy" train in New York is a bit different than this "sketchy" train in Japan, filled to the brim with kind and helpful strangers.
Reality is weird, it could be like suisei where everyone just ignores or it could be like koroazu where some people help out. I got lucky twice in one Day when my I went to pick up my mk3 Supra but It just wasnt running right and kept dying on me while driving and on the road. And on both occasions the drivers and bystanders went out of their own way to help me push my car out of the way and into safety. Ngl gave me still some hope for humanity.
There's a certain point in your life where falling in public is no longer seen as funny and is just seen as sad.
LOL
Yeah, at a certain age, people will learn to evaluate on the severity and take action accordingly.
I tell you what, there's one more point after the sad one. You just no longer care if you fall in public. You don't try to laugh it off and don't really feel anything (a bit hurt but it lasts a couple of minutes and you soon forget).
I mean, it's always a bit funny, but i can understand not wanting to makes the people who feel "nervous" or embarassed by our stare.
It's never sad tho. You do get worried when it seems rly bad on the contrary.
@@mikuramsay However, most people just evaluate the severity based on whether it's appropriate for _everyone_ to draw attention to it, and since Suisei said that it was a minor injury, most others would just move on with their actions.
Moral of the story is, if you're in tokyo and see a girl fall down a flight of stairs from a McDonalds
pick her up
she might be suisei
And kiss her, it's worth it, jail is just a room
@@Succubus_L0li Jail IS just a room... but you won't be the one going to it.
*TWENTY EIGHT STAB WOUNDS*
@@Succubus_L0li How naive of you to think you can safely retreat to jail
I'd just help people to spark change of the toxic culture of Japanese seeing help as bringing shame on them. That's not what help is supposed to do.
@@TheShiningEnergy It's not giving help, but if you're okay then people will pretend to not see, whereas if you're bleeding OF COURSE only then they will provide help and attention
I think that's part of being in a place with different cultures than you're used to. Suisei mentioned that she came from the countryside where I assume people are more tightly knit, hence why she was shocked that people were ignoring her at first.
Yes and no. It's actually a bit more severe than that, though culture does play a factor. To illustrate this, here's another story. A man in Japan started to have a heart attack on a subway platform in Tokyo. The reason why was later to be found to be because of overwork and stress. When he started having a heart attack, **no one moved to help him**. Not even to call an ambulance. He only survived because a foreigner who was visiting moved to help him get medical attention.
As for why no one else moved to help him, and this is according to native Japanese people, it's because they have a strong collectiveness mindset. They created this mindset as a result of having to deal with so many natural disasters regularly over there over several centuries; if a person acts selfishly, they run the risk of endangering other people. They by itself is fine, but some people in Japan feel it has been driven to extremes as of late, if the earlier story I presented to you is of any indication. Especially since Tokyo's been rebuilt to withstand certain disasters such as earthquakes and tsunamis after a particularly nasty tsunami some years ago practically flattened it.
You can actually here it in the story that the person Suisei was talking to told. No one moved to help the drunkard until someone else decided to take initiative. What's more, the person Suisei was talking to regarded the drunk as troublesome person, despite not knowing why he was drunk and despite him not doing anything other than trying not to vomit on the train. And she probably wasn't the only one.
One particular Japanese person by the name of Shogo (you can find him on UA-cam) pointed out that international rankings of countries and their likelihood to help others around them, Japan was ranked DEAD LAST in that regard. They will put up a friendly face to foreigners, as saving face with others is a big deal in Japan, but when it comes to their own citizens, including foreigners who have naturalized into Japanese citizens, they'll more likely turn a blind eye, even if they are in need.
And that's why even native Japanese people feel this is a big problem; after all, if helping each other is how they survive, what good can come of abandoning others over minor things? It doesn't help that matter is not just about the "offender" being troublesome, but also because no one wants to break from the herd and stand out by helping others in order to protect themselves and avoid losing face.
So yeah, tl;td, it's not just about being the countryside. It's far bigger than that.
@@Dragonpit I understand your viewpoint. However, within the context of the clip, it seems more fitting for it to be a Tokyo vs Countryside thing since Suisei herself is also Japanese and she was shocked about that incident.
@@Dragonpit There's something called the "Bystander Effect".
Usually, people will not want to make the first move even if it is socially deemed the right thing to do.
However, once someone else makes the first move, others will come in to help.
Just like in the video, if the woman did not pass the bag over, the man in the suit will likely not make a move.
@@amdrandom yeah this guy tries hard making this into a cultural thing when this happens just as much in highly individualistic cultures in big cities such as london or new york, where people are less inclined to help when there are greater people around where there are witnesses and observers than in rural areas where there are fewer people and are a community. bystander effect is what its called and there are studies about it. its has more to do with the psychology of a person than cultural.
@@kenneth.lim3390 in Spain (where I live) if you encounter someone having a seizure you administer cpr first, call and ambulance and if needed you drive them to the hospital and stay with them till a familiar arrives.
If I fell down the stairs, carrying food from mac, the first thing I'd confirm would be...
ARE THE BURGERS OK?
Same
Man got his priorities right. Definitely what's going first in my mind too.
They're already so flat anyway, there probably wouldn't be much difference if you fell on them.
You've got your buns priorities straight
Just like here in Indonesia. If a traffic accidents happened involving a bike / motorcycle, people WILL help the bike first, then the driver lmao.
Its "Bro is your bike okay" first rather than "dude are you okay"
Yeah, I was about to say: When I see someone lightly fall and hurt their butt, I don't raise attention because I assume this must've been embarrassing for them on their own. At the same time though, you really want to help...
Yeah, I can kinda appreciate it when people don't make a big deal out of me falling on my ass x) I mean, sure, if I really looked out of it, was lying unconscious or screaming in pain it's one thing, but when you're okay and all you feel is annoyance over that darn icy bump that got you...
caring about safety > worrying if you embarrassed someone. at least that's how it should be as a human being.
I usually wait a moment to see if the person is gonna just laugh it off and stand up. If they don't, I offer to at least hold their bag while they stand up or clean the dust
@@LC-hd5dc i know, right? I feel Japan (and most other Asian countries) have that wrong. It's not a bad thing to ask for/need help!
Theres a psychological phenomena called the bystander effect where the more people are in the crowd the less you are likely to help someone
Something similar happend to me before. I once tripped on a place where there was a lot of people and there was this guy laughing at me, I was angry for a second until he came up to me, picked me up and told me to laugh it off and called me a homie. He made my situation less embarrassing and treated me like a friend. We pass by each other every other day and still calls me a homie
In large cities, the more people that are around you, the more invisible you become.
Both a good and a bad thing.
I'd rather people just ignore me rather than have a whole crowd gather around me and just looking at me if I slip
KoroAzu's experience has taught me too now, that we should try consider more positive outlook even of the first impressions are bad.
Great clip & editing.
I can understand that not looking at you slipping is a form of kindness. Cause I've experienced the opposite where everyone was looking at me, lol. That shit was embarrassing.
It's also hard to try and help someone when they fall, since there are the sorts that get angry when you try to help them when it's something minor and getting involved when it's something major is even more troublesome since it can lead to legal issues that can hound you for the rest of the day if not months.
Wtf, legal issues? Is someone gonne sue you for trying to help when they fell on their own?
@@Hollow_Tim Yes.
@@Hollow_Tim Yes. Unironically.
This reminds me of that video where a Northern British was forced to do a public apology after saying "Good Morning" on a London train to a stranger lol
I had a similar story in front of KFC, i fell because the floor tile was wet, the girl next to the KFC shop suddenly laugh out very loud (probably unintentional), it was embarrassing as hell.
Call for the manager
@@TheRealTonie lemao, that'll teach her.
Yeah, in big cities everywhere in the world people's coldness goes all the way down to absolute zero.
I AM AN IDOL!!!
Susei probably on the ground
Im kind of glad I still live in a place where if you fall, someone wil awkwardly try to reach you to help or at least ask "were you hurt?"
I prefer tokyo's way to respond to that situation tbh
Poor Sui chan.
Man I can relate to the train incident, traveled to Tokyo and met a lot of peeps, after having fun drinking at a karaoke bar I noticed a buddy went in too hard on the sauce and I helped him get back, my fear of him puking on the late train back came true, two salarymen were in front of us, I apologized to them and they handed me their pocket napkins and water lol, I used my foot and napkins to clean up the mess, then used my buddies hat as a bucket next time he decided to puke again lmaoo. Wasn’t gonna let others donate more napkins. Overall they’re definitely kinder in Japan compared to the here in the west 😂
deserved more upvotes, people here are more drawn to negative stuff / drama than positive which is sad. my experience of japan was mostly positive, memorable one was when i was in akihabara and a japanese dude initiated the conversation and an old japanese dude who was too friendly and too talkative that we had to leave since we're pressed for time lol which contrary to what everyone says that the japanese are cold which is very untrue. ive been to the country several times now and theyve been nothing but friendly and kind people
@@moggless shogo and nobita have covered this more extensively, but the japanese are more inclined to help foreigners as opposed to their own, basically because they don't want to be seen as being different from the others
@@ChriSX13 that's pretty much true in ethnically homogenous countries. In a way countries with multiracial inhabitants are more genuine in their treatment on others, regardless how good or bad it is. Granted there's still some inherent value in terms of kindess and consideration that comes from each cultural background.
@@ChriSX13just like he said. it also happens in your country you're just oblivious to it and act as if its a "japan thing" youre obviously clouded by your bias. i live in the philippines and i cant count the number of times foreigners are treated better than my own countrymen. stop living in an echochamber.
Kinda reminds me of Connor's story he told on Trash Taste where he was walking around in Tokyo and saw a guy on the floor crying and people just ignoring and walking past him...
It's from ep no 102 around 1:00:07
Wow, reading your comment made me genuinely sad. Poor guy, I hope he's in a better place now. Crying in private is one thing, but to be crying on the floor in public, that's a special kind of emotional pain. Or I guess he could've stubbed his toe like REALLY hard, but I don't think that was it.
That sounds normal in Sweden.
But if someone falls, there's no way I'm not going to see if they're ok. I think most are the same. Maybe I'll make an exception for a teenage or young adult guy, but even then I'll atleast take a glance and see if they seem to be ok.
Also, if someone else takes initiative first, I'll just ignore them and leave. 3 seems to be the unwritten rule for how many will stop to help.
Well maybe Connor was there just to visit, but i bet 90% of the people there are hurrying to go somewhere else and they dont have the time to even look at other people, so i understand why people didnt talk to the guy crying cause they probably didnt even notice him.
"help every girl up that falls while in tokyo..." noted
The story in the train reminded me of korone's story
1:21 HAHAHAHA the animation makes it even funnier😂
Honestly, I prefer that. I'm American, but I always look the other way when someone does something like that, cause I feel like I'm saving them from the embarrassment to some degree.
Eh, also American, but I'd prefer if someone at least gave me a hand up. It's what I'd do, don't draw attention or make a big deal of it unless it's serious, just give them a hand up and be on my way.
Out of 144 countries, Japan ranks 142nd in the world for helping strangers
wow really
What a surprise.
I remember when I was younger, I drove my bike down a long street, a car suddenly drove out of a garage, and I pushed the front brakes instead of the rear brakes. I did a front flip and the bike landed on top of me. The people around just stood and looked at me, so I just got up and drove tf away from there
imagine u had a chance to reach out a hand to THE Suisei but u just ignored
thats just sad
If the production quality of these clips keeps going up your gonna end up with an OVA
If only i had a time machine i would've saved Sui-chan from the fall.
That what I thought it was. When I suddenly trip myself or fall down a set of stairs yeah I'd be embarrassed. So them actually walking by past me is cool I mean sure helping me stand up is better but lessening my embarrassment is still better than having someone laugh at you.
Reminds me of the time when i was on the night bus, and there was a young dude all pale behind me. Luckily I had a spare plastic bag in my back bag that I could give him. Not sure if he ended up using it, but atleast it would have been better than the bus floor. Moral of the story carry a plastic bag with your bag, so you can use it for shopping at a store or helping out someone.
I live in Tokyo and when I was leaving the last train some drunk guy was seconds from puking on my shoes, I had to jump and dodge that to avoid it.
Its a pretty common situation innit.
1:15 and that young man's name was Yukoku Roberu
Man hearing this story make me really appreciate the kind environment that I'm living here.
Relatable, even as a foreigner
The other people stood up because the other person stood up first.
What caused the other people to stood up then?
Poor Suisei that's cold. It's better to help than try to see like nothing happened
Awww KoroAzu's story is really heartwarming! I hope she'll have that chance one day xD
What happened to Suisei is something I've heard before.
meanwhile in LA it will be like "yoooooo look at this dude holy shit hahahahahahaha"
**dance artistically besides the victim for tiktok videos**
I live in Los Angeles and I've never had such an experience. People are more than willing to help you up, pick up what you dropped, and wish you well.
@@Tiypo1337 Except if you’re homeless or look remotely sketchy, then everyone will happily ignore
@@hisaceinthehole3426 that quote makes no sense
god i love you
There is still humanity in Japanese people.
There are still judges in Berlin.
Suisei fell, she got an axe. Marine fell 😏 sora fell, "m'lady" 🤣
Weirdest experience I had in Tokyo was when I asked an older man (around his 50s) if he could point me to something I knew should have been really close. Mind you, I have a Japanese N1 and speaking and listening are what I believe to be my strong suits, so I never had any problem talking with Japanese people in a relatively natural way. So I ask this man about the whereabouts of X in Japanese, and I get no answer. Thinking he didn't hear me, I ask again, this time closer and more clearly. No answer, the guy keeps minding his business. I ask again, about a meter away from him, and I still get ignored completely, as if I was a ghost. I knew he wasn't blind, deaf or mute, and I knew he spoke Japanese, because a minute ago I'd seen him chatting happily with other people, but when it came to me, it was as if I didn't even exist. He was just looking straight ahead, doing his thing, not acknowledging my presence. So I just left and asked someone else who pointed me to what I was looking for.
At the time, I really felt like some kind of invisible spirit, and it remains one of the weirdest experience of my life.
I guess that old man was only comfortable talking to people he knows and not foreign people?
I'm torn between thinking that was actually kinda terrifying (in an existential way), or just really rude (or possibly xenophobic). Depending on the guy's age and disposition, he could have been one of those types that dislikes foreigners.
its funny because in my case a japanese was the one who initiated the conversation while browsing in akihabara, it was too bad i cant speak japanese the guy was really nice. i hope that one experience wont leave you with a bad impression of the country as there are plenty of good people there just like in any other country.
"One time, I tried to bother a random guy, and he ignored me."
@@ccengineer5902 Nah mate. Old guy seems like he was just a düsh bag, especially if he was happily speaking with other people just a moment ago.
So basically, you won't get help in Tokyo if you're hurt unless the passer-by sees blood on the ground? 😐
"people that go out and have fun leaves a bad image" now that's a sad way to think man. The dude went out, how is that bad???
Of course throwing up in public leaves a bad image, but then say that
People having fun shows a good image. People engaging in hedonistic debauchery because they lack impulse control - which is also fun - presents a bad image. Getting pissed to the point of puking on the train falls under the latter. I'm guessing the connotation was lost in translation.
@@the1necromancer I thought that was pretty clear. Being drunk is usually considered a choice, and I think most people would prefer to not get involved unless they know the guy.
Being so smashed you barely have a conscious thought _is_ a bad image. Have some restraint.
Not my problem
Is this the sentiment behind the ばれへん spam whenever someone flubs lyrics or audio during a karaoke stream? Just them being polite by not paying attention to something embarrassing?
What is Suisei's favorite meal from McDonald's ? 🤔
Japanese people really do mind their own business 😆 like literally
I have some things that happened to me in Japan
There’s that one time I crashed into a little bump that my bicycle couldn’t get past because I couldn’t see and didn’t have glasses at the time, I flew near the middle of the road where cars usually go by but no one tried to help and just watched lol
Another story, once... no, actually multiple times I’ve dropped my purse or keys in stations but there’s always someone willing to pick it up and give a heads up
Long story short? No one will usually try to help if the “helping” might take “long” or it might include awkwardness, at least that’s what I got from my experience
sure, but that's probably true in any country tbh.
yeah at least wear a suit if you're going to puke on the train
Probably because company drinking parties are fairly common in Japan, from what I understand, so someone in a suit being piss drunk like that on the last train of the day probably isn't all *that* uncommon lol.
Here's the thing. There once a high school girl in East Jakarta who fell from a slippery stairs near me. I tried to help her, lend her a hand. She look at me, having this scared or disgusted face (or maybe thats just in my eye), refuse to be helped shyly / calmly, and gets up on her own, and walk away.
That is the day i realized:
1. I am not handsome, and my face scares people
2. And or that girl is a rude girl
Maybe thats why people don't want to help other anymore. They don't want to disturb people who don't want any help.
Kind of. I don't think that happens very often, but I do think just the off chance of being treated like that after lending help discourages people from doing it
classic Japan
Its called the bystander effect. Bigots here act like its jsut a japan phenomenon lol. Its also hilarious that you completely ignored koroazu's story about the 2 japanese helping the drunk dude.
@@moggless Jumping the gun by a mile, dude. As was pointed out, being impersonal is also a type of kindness in the right situation. And placing more emphasis on the embarrassment of the situation over the minor harm is indeed a Japanese trait. One that I would appreciate in the same scenario. Not every little slip and fall (or 2 word comment) requires a white knight.
@@moggless
They always act like everything is a "Japanese thing" when it suits them.
The only time they are against generalization is when it happens to their own country.
@@maninredhelm wtf are you even about? i jumped the gun when the idiot made a prejudiced comment that its a japan thing when this is a known phenomenon which is prevalent in big cities / metropolitan areas like new york or in london, and in this case, tokyo. its a social psychological theory wherein individuals are less likely to offer help when there are more people around as they dont want bear the responsibility alone. no, its not a "japanese" trait that is what a racist would say. making the correlation that being japanese and being unsympathetic is somehow connected is absurd and bigoted.
ive experienced this first-hand and far worse than suisei where i got mugged and was surrounded by hundreds of people yet no one even tried to stop the mugger. i live in a 3rd world country and was lucky i didnt get stabbed, go look up the bystander effect there are plenty of social experiments that has been done in all parts of the world not just japan where this also happens. educate before embarassing yourself dude.
Classic xenophobe
Another great example of Japanese Hive Mind.
THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES, THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL
You're so fucking cool!
That doesn't know where it came from, or where it's going.
That's just messed up if Suisei literally injured herself and no one was there to help her
Same thing happened to my mom when we visited Japan. She fell really hard while boarding the train and people didn't even flinch or react, almost like they're robots which was really disturbing. Back in my country people always rush in to help whenever something happens to someone in public so that was a bit of a culture shock I guess.
Japan moment
Its called the bystander effect. Bigots here act like its jsut a japan phenomenon lol. Its also hilarious that you completely ignored koroazu's story about the 2 japanese helping the drunk dude.
I think it's a metropolitan kinda thing. Even in the West, I helped a random guy in clutches who fell over and everybody just walked around us.
@@HandleToBeDetermined true
you kinda hear the same thing about new york too
@@HandleToBeDetermined there is a whole research / study about it. Greater people around a bystander are less likely to help than when there are fewer people around hence why it happens more in a metropolitan area.
Are the illustrations in these videos something similar to clipart for western programs? Or are they custom made? Theyre really cute.
Haha,here we would laugh a lot while lending her a hand lol
A channel called Let's Ask Shogo recently made a video about these sorts of things. He says the Japanese culture of "minding your business" often leads to not helping people in need, and that people will mainly do so if they think not doing it will make them look bad.
Yeah, Japan and its weird ways of being "polite".. Here, if you fall, people will laugh at you but at the same time they be like "Hey bro, are you ok? let me help you"... But they don't stop laughing, of course xD In a way, it is better than just being completely ignored, that is sad.. This way at least you laugh with them lol
And becomes a funny memory, instead of a sad one, like Suisei's
Tbf, as someone in my 20s and full health, therefore being capable of walking a minor fall off, I'd rather people ignore me. I'm getting the 'my kindness is not making a scene' shtick, unless the fallen is elderly, doesn't get up, scream in pain or some other thing that very clearly requires attention
Age and health is not everything..
When I was a kid, my cousin the same age as me (and healthier than me) jumped off the stairs after me, but he landed kinda badly.
We were half way coming from school to home, it looked as if nothing happened but he twisted his ankle, it started swelling and I was helping him get home because of the pain. Young age means quick recovery, not less prone for injury.
Imagine if she had twisted ankle and nobody helped her, she'd be getting home alone and worsening her condition. Now imagine she has a live or recording in a month, that'd probably affect a ton of things in her schedule. I think she'd rather be thankful for being helped and survive a little bit of shame than having stuff canceled due to injury. Also slipping and falling in to rain or snow/ice is no shame, things happen to everyone.
@@TheRealTonie I mean, there was the "scream in pain or some other thing that very clearly requires attention" part that this would likely fall under. Unless your cousin would literally do their best to walk like nothing happened with a twisted ankle for some reason
@@MrCh0o nah no scream and btw it was a guy. From outside it looked loke he just jumped, landed and I felt something is wrong, I saw how he landed and suddenly his foot started to ache. Not to the point to scream in pain but still.
Heck, I even once broke a finger and all I felt was that something is wrong, the worker at the rope park asked me if everything is alright bcs I looked strange for a moment and then I say "I think I'm fine" then I look to check if I'm fine. "2 legs, 2 arms, 10 fingers... Wait was that finger always bend this way?" Hadn't he asked me I wouldn't even notice that. 😂
But if Suisei fell I doubt she did not scream. Even if so, I think, if someone nearby me falls and nobody is near to help them - he/she is alone and they look around possibly for some help then it's better to even at least ask if they are alright and if can get up if they didn't on their own yet.
True one time I saw an adult/older woman (tho not a typical old granny) fall from her seat in a tram due to too high speed, but she recovered quickly on her own so there was even no time for helping her get up.
I was on the other side of her and I noticed at least a few people took notice that she fell and that she was uninjured so we all felt relieved.
It's better to take notice of those things, even if minor can cause some injuries that can affect them.
(Also it will also make you remember better that this mac's stairs tend to be slippery during the rain or something lol)
@@MrCh0o visit ny or paris, if you scream then everyone will avoid you even more
I will never understand this. I don't even consider myself a kind person, but if anyone falls near me I instinctively inquire if they're okay and offer a hand to help them up and pick up their stuff.
How is this not everyone's automatic response?
Same, but I can also understand the other side. They're worried about the person who fell, but they don't want to act and cause a scene. It's to save everyone from some embarrassment. To some people, pride matters a lot more than their well-being.
There’s a very simple answer: your environment and culture has trained you to react that way. That very same reason is why people don’t offer their hand to every person in need they run across. Not saying I agree with the mentality of leaving someone be, but to be the one person that chooses to help takes guts for some people
@@AlexisAlexander646 Ahh, must be the Canadian in me then. I've always theorized that one reason Canadians have the reputation of being friendly may be because during winter here, helping each other can be a matter of life or death. You help others in the hopes that when you need help, others will help you.
@@LethalShadow I certainly think that's a great mindset to have! Treating others the way you want to be treated may seem like a commonplace phrase for many, but in Japan, respect may important but so is pride unfortunately.
I guess it depends of the country. There are those where you can feel bad in the middle of the street and noone will help you. And those where you will always get a help, no matter who you are and in which condition you are. Better know your own country social responsibility. Of course even in the most egoistic countries there are kind people who can help you when others ignores you. Also attitude can be different depending of the people who needs help. And if everyone ignored beautiful woman in a trouble... well it's bad. A year ago, while crossing the street, I slipped in a puddle and fell, hitting my elbow on the concrete, and then lost consciousness. When I woke up, people stood around me, helped me get up, asked what was the matter, called me an ambulance where they helped me. And after that one woman even bought me a snack and I went home. I had no doubt that it would be so, I would have done the same in their place.
It seems ppl throwing up on the train in Japan is a common thing. I saw a girl puking rgb coming off shibuya station.
Its interesting thinking about this in contrast to a story korone told in the past. She cried because she failed to act when someone needed help near her and regretted it. Sometimes culture is instilled so deeply into people that its hard to break.
Dont twist her words. She never mentioned anything about it being a cultural thing. Thats scummy and dishonest towards her. And If i remember correctly someone did help and she thought ill of the guy for being a samaritan is what she regrets
@@moggless yo I need you to calm down white knight-san. No one claimed korone said it being a cultural thing. Thats my commentary. And if you got out of your feelings for a moment you'd actually learn something that it is a cultural thing just as Koro-san explained to suisei in the video right above you. You put others before yourself in JP and it is thought to be indirectly more polite to ignore a person dealing with something. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@CsRacks you implied it, dont play dumb. And koro was alluding to the bystander effect, which is a theory researched by actual psychologists ofwhich you are not. This is a global phenomenon and thereve been soical experiments and studies conducted go look it up and you might learn a thing. Its not a 'japanese' thing like any narrowminded simpleton would conclude like you just did. Its more psychological than cultural this happens inyour own country and mine as well particularly in big cities. Thats why suisei was shocked since she comes from the countryside if you actually pay attention to koro when she explained it to suisei and not twist peoples words to act on on your prejudicial feelings.
@@moggless you still crying?
@@CsRacks typical unintelligent response when they cant back up their arguments. Its past your bedtime.
Man, Japan can be pretty grim sometimes.
Japan has a huge problem of bystander mentality.
this happened in tokyo where its more prevalent in big cities. i live in one in my country where i got mugged. i was surrounded by hundreds of people yet not one even tried to stop the fcker. chased the guy was lucky i didnt get stabbed.
Big cities have a huge problem with bystander mentality.
Things like this and much worse happen in New York every single day. Some people die on the sidewalk without anyone paying them attention.
@@LethalShadow Indeed. And I get the impression a "sketchy" train in New York is a bit different than this "sketchy" train in Japan, filled to the brim with kind and helpful strangers.
Reality is weird, it could be like suisei where everyone just ignores or it could be like koroazu where some people help out.
I got lucky twice in one Day when my I went to pick up my mk3 Supra but It just wasnt running right and kept dying on me while driving and on the road.
And on both occasions the drivers and bystanders went out of their own way to help me push my car out of the way and into safety.
Ngl gave me still some hope for humanity.