Awesome build serious guys thank you for sharing your Knowledge my uncle has an Porsche 914 in storage waiting to be restored thank you ct for the videos i own a Diecast Model Porsche 914 my self❤
Great Video CT. Darin is a good teacher. He knows all the details. Even which way a snap ring should go in and why it goes that way. Not too many folks know about those finer details!
Awesome build series Guys ! Thank you for sharing your knowledge ( VW Darrin channel ) Darrin . Thank CT for the 78 hours of editing this series will consume :))
I'm currently tearing down a Type 4 engine out of a 1983 air cooled Vanagon, almost identical to this engine. Video couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks.
Looking good and great to seeing some more Type4 build videos. I think there's a big need for this and remove some of the flack people wrong dream up. Just we would've at least used Th e 1800 (93mm) T4 barrel kit or even the 96mm (1911cc) barrel kit with 2L / 1800 heads which bolt straight on = happy days ;)
Thanks for the videos on the Type 4 build. Keep it up. I bought a 72 bus with 1.7 type 4 a year ago knowing very little. Watching these videos has helped me build the courage to tear mine down for a rebuild. Down to the case now and starting next week . Actually excited and feel confident
TYPE 4 cases hardly ever wear out. they are made of aluminum. That is why i like the Autolinia aluminum cases. they are super strong. but They are Heavy. I have trouble putting in my bus engine by myself.
@@johnleinen9409 The early ones had problems with the rear pully seizing up but I think they got that resolved. mine has no issues. super strong running.
Excellent video CT :) also Darren :) he great help to your family CT also plus he great big help out and pick right time working when inside rain outside!
Yes, I wish UA-cam was around then. It's a wealth of information! Thank you! I hope you can use this info on a future build or a least enjoy the content.
It's looking awesome! Thank you for fixing my transmission as well. Not many air cooled techs left out there. That's a nice looking 914 motor. Cant wait for the rain to finally stop. Looks good brother.
@@CTmoog I have been watching his videos now for about 7 years give or take. I used to go to a guy out by the jail on 92 but he passed away a few years ago. He was a guru of vws. But anyway cant wait to see the next video I'm always learning something new and COOL.
At 26:00 That would be Permatex #3. The Indian head logo has been on containers at least since the sixties, which is as far back as my wrenching memory goes!
True VW man he has the aviation Permatex and we used to use silicone on the barrels to the case no paper gaskets white grease on the valve cover gaskets with the rear main seal and dry to the case torco assembly Lube the best
No type4 aftermarket cases in production as yet. But I believe Jake Raby is developing one. Nearly T4 cases are aluminium. Only a very rare few of the early 1700 cases were magnesium cases.
Good to know. I'm curious to find out what the case is like from the 1972 VW Camper Bus I purchased last year. I pulled the engine out and it was seized. It's in bad shape. Hopefully we can save that one as well.
@@CTmoog I'm sure you can save it. Speak to European Motor works in California for most of your parts and advice. They do a lot of work with Type4 motors parts and machining. Getting the case properly linebore is not easy to find. There's lots just throwing a line bore through and thinking they've made the case true again. This is usually not the situation and the case halves are still bent at the case mating face. In this situation the case halves need to be faced and cam tunnel and oil pump hole remachined to spec. Then all the studs can go back in and then the line nore can be done afterwards.
@@CTmoog yes, the bus case is basically the same. Barrels, heads, crank etc are all inter changeable with the 914 engine parts etc. You got a win with that windage tray. These are unavailable now.
Truly correct about the gasket she spoke about when you use silicone on a paper or cork gasket silicone actually dissolves the gasket and turns it into mush that's why Aviation Permatex is great on paper gaskets course if you have your surfaces flat should not have to use any gasket sealer but Bolton the cases together Aviation Permatex do not use silicone one more on gaskets like that I usually will paint the gasket on both sides with the Permatex with a piece of cardboard makes it easier to stall in the gasket and less of a mess
I was considering a type 4 for my Beetle, would have made a great performance upgrade but for the cost you could have two decent built type 1's. Shame because I've seen type 4's punched out to almost 3 liters. There's a few companies out there making kits for a beetle conversion but the prices are crazy expensive.
The complete 38mm exhaust system needed for the 1.7 &1.8 beetle conversion is crazy expensive. The 42mm is available, but its too big for 1.7,1.8 engines.
Fantástico brother o teu trabalho este motor é muito parecido com nosso 1600 brasileiro com dupla carburação só o nosso cárter é bem diferente um forte abraço dos brasileiros
@@CTmoog HEY C T you've gone up in my estimation , many creaters ignore or hide negative comment .... so bravo ! !! As for the ads..... yes that many start to encroach and effect the enjoyment of the content ....I know you've got to make a living but I feel you're at a tipping point where many might switch off , you have the analytics so I'm willing to be schooled ... is your audience the same ? Do they watch less time on your videos ? Anyway its your project ...I hope if nothing else I raised a smile from you 😊☺🙂😄
Remmele in Germany makes a billet aluminum CNC case for the T4 with OEM dimensions, and Overfly has a 16V case without the camshaft bore features since it's all in the heads.
Was that yamabond he was using to seal the case. We started using that back in the early 80s. worked the best. I would use silicone today it should work fine too. mega grey would work too but it might be really hard to split that case a second time.
hey there, currently rebuilding my type 4 engine and im wondering what you used to seal the crankcase halves together. i have aviation permatex and no. 2 permatex but i am unable to find VW case glue
Hello I have a type 4 porsche engine to rebuild and, looking at your very clean work, I have a few questions: how did you clean the housings? Have you grinded the cylinders into the cylinder heads? The screws and nuts seem new. Where do they come from ? I hope I can rebuild my engine in a few days after taking this lesson! Thakns
Hello, thank you! We cleaned the case with diesel, purple power, brake cleaner. The heads, pistons and cylinders are new from AA performance products. The screws and nuts are all original. I vapor lasted them. Please search the 914world forums, Google and UA-cam for for more info. It's out there but you have to search for it. Good luck with your build. I hope this helps. Keep us updated. If you have more questions please ask.
When I saw you applying silicone around the outer perimeter of the engine the first thought through my head was “Welp….all those studs are going to end up weeping oil and that case is going to be a bitch to get apart after all that oil gums up on them.” What is sealing the studs from oil?
@@CTmoog Im glad darrin said the brown sealant isnt as good anymore. Still building up the courage to build my own motor. Very good stuff to know! thanks
Hi just watched you building T4 engine do you like putting it together the hard way you said VW don't use a sealer yes they do when you fit the oil pump you should leave the nuts and bolt around the pump loose you should not put sealer around the rubber front & rear seal's you used new cylinder heads did they not need cylinder head rings??? Why didn't you put the rocker shaft studs in when the cylinder heads were on the bench I'am surprised I can see on your video you have VW engine's in your workshop buy the way the oil relief valve is not for that engine that's why you had to change the spring.
@@CTmoog Hi CT in all my devices are on because I have problems with my ears. In some of your videos I can see the close caption and in others I can't.
Hallo Jungs, sorry, aber Silikondichtmittel hat an axialgeteilten Gehäuse nichts zu suchen ;-( Das Silikonzeug ist hier bie an die Hauptlager geschmiert und verstopft so den Ölrücklauf. Leider wurde die Pampe auch unter die Zylinderfüße geschmiert. Es gibt eindeutige Vorgaben welches Dichtmittel zu verwenden ist. Z.B. das amerobe Dichtmittel Loctite 574 In den letzten Jahren kommen immer mehr solcher zusammengepappter Motoren aus Amilan zurück nach Europa. Silikon muss auf der anderen Seite des teiches billig sein ----lol----
Check out Darrin:
ua-cam.com/channels/9pxSK7TaaxIVL_iFe1rD9g.html
Awesome build serious guys thank you for sharing your Knowledge my uncle has an Porsche 914 in storage waiting to be restored thank you ct for the videos i own a Diecast Model Porsche 914 my self❤
Very cool! I hope you guys get it up and running soon. I will have more 914 videos soon.
Great Video CT. Darin is a good teacher. He knows all the details. Even which way a snap ring should go in and why it goes that way. Not too many folks know about those finer details!
Thanks man! Yes, I agree. He is a master of his art. I had no idea about the snap ring. Lots of good details in these videos.
If people realise that they didn't know which way a snap ring goes then that's the clue that they're not capable of building thier motor themselves.
Nothing better than watching VWDarrin assemble a long block. Thanks for capturing the footage and asking lots of good questions.
I agree! He makes it look easy! Thanks Greg!
Awesome build series Guys ! Thank you for sharing your knowledge ( VW Darrin channel ) Darrin . Thank CT for the 78 hours of editing this series will consume :))
Hours well spent! Hopefully these videos will help people for years to come! =)
It would be so relaxing to rebuild an engine while listening to rain hit the roof like that ♥️
Yes, it was pretty nice actually.
Nice to see progress on the motor.
Thanks Richard!
Hey Guy! Comment below. This is a VW Type 4 engine used in VW bus and Porsche 914 from 1972 to 1979. What do you think about this engine build?
I'm currently tearing down a Type 4 engine out of a 1983 air cooled Vanagon, almost identical to this engine. Video couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks.
@@timothyb8281 That's awesome man! Good luck with the build. Keep us updated. Thank you!
Excellent video on CT :) Vroom Vroom
Looking good and great to seeing some more Type4 build videos. I think there's a big need for this and remove some of the flack people wrong dream up.
Just we would've at least used Th e 1800 (93mm) T4 barrel kit or even the 96mm (1911cc) barrel kit with 2L / 1800 heads which bolt straight on = happy days ;)
What is that case sealant are you using on the case halves?
Another project making progress. Darrin is a great friend, and REALLY knows his stuff. One of these days, a project will get done; can’t wait👍
Thanks Michael! Darrin is awesome! Yes, we will have meltable projects done some day!
I love the rain in the back ground very relaxing. We don't get much rain in California
Yes, it's been raining for a couple weeks now. I hope you guys get some soon.
Thanks for the videos on the Type 4 build. Keep it up. I bought a 72 bus with 1.7 type 4 a year ago knowing very little. Watching these videos has helped me build the courage to tear mine down for a rebuild. Down to the case now and starting next week . Actually excited and feel confident
That is awesome Jeff! Keep me updated on the build.
Great work guys! That rain was really coming down.
Thanks man! Yes, it's still coming down! =)
Fascinating and I am only 5 minutes in, wow, engine rebuilding, that is specialised
Darin seems to know his craft!
TYPE 4 cases hardly ever wear out. they are made of aluminum. That is why i like the Autolinia aluminum cases. they are super strong. but They are Heavy. I have trouble putting in my bus engine by myself.
Yes, my back is hurting from lifting this one onto the table! =) It's a beast!
No, they have issues with the thrust bearing area .
I’ve heard the same thing; pretty bulletproof as compared to Type I.
@@johnleinen9409 The early ones had problems with the rear pully seizing up but I think they got that resolved. mine has no issues. super strong running.
Excellent video CT :) also Darren :) he great help to your family CT also plus he great big help out and pick right time working when inside rain outside!
Thanks Andrew! Yes, great time to work inside out of the rain! =)
@@CTmoog :) sure my favorite time when catch up in lots stuff!
I had a ‘75 westie 29 years ago and sure wish this kind of video was around then. It badly needed a rebuild
Yes, I wish UA-cam was around then. It's a wealth of information! Thank you! I hope you can use this info on a future build or a least enjoy the content.
Thank you CT for showing how an engine is build. As always thank you for putting out good content.
You are welcome my firmed! Thank you for all the support and watching! =)
The sound in the background it's sound like a lot of rain is faling down 😎👍👍
Yes, it's been raining for days! =)
It's looking awesome! Thank you for fixing my transmission as well. Not many air cooled techs left out there. That's a nice looking 914 motor. Cant wait for the rain to finally stop. Looks good brother.
Yes, Darrin is an awesome guy!
@@CTmoog I have been watching his videos now for about 7 years give or take. I used to go to a guy out by the jail on 92 but he passed away a few years ago. He was a guru of vws. But anyway cant wait to see the next video I'm always learning something new and COOL.
I’m building my type 4 right now, Great work…
Awesome man! Is it going in a bus or a 914? Keep us updated.
I do like the stoutness of the type 4. A set of Weber's and she is set!
Yes, it's soild. Can't wait to hear it fire up!
Motor looks sweet.
Yes, it's looking good! Thanks man!
Love watching a master do his thing
Darren “maybe you’ll get the car done now” 😂 he knows
HAHA !=) I hope so! He is pretty funny!
At 26:00 That would be Permatex #3. The Indian head logo has been on containers at least since the sixties, which is as far back as my wrenching memory goes!
Thanks Neil! There is a lot of history there! =)
A Pleasure, keep up the great work and keep on showcasing this wonderful, knowledgeable mechanic 😉
Thank you! Darrin is a great mechanic and an amazing friend! =)
It's a beautiful work cogratuleichon
Thank you my friend! =)
Never worked on a type 4, but I did a few of the others (nice work benches---I have one of them) Good job !!
Cool! Thank man!
Great work
My father had a fat 2.8lt type 4, awesome engine 👍
Super beau travail bravo
True VW man he has the aviation Permatex and we used to use silicone on the barrels to the case no paper gaskets white grease on the valve cover gaskets with the rear main seal and dry to the case torco assembly Lube the best
Great stories too
awesome looking engine
I believe Darrin has more native blood in him than Pocahontas Warren....🤣😂
HAHA! You might be right! =)
Looks like a great motor coming together. I would adapt this motor to your bus, Rusty, and store his 40 horse running gear for another project.
Yes, it's going to be nice! That would make Rusty pretty fast! =)
What a great video CT, can't wait to get into my Type 4. Please pass on my huge thanks to Darrin
Thanks Jamie! I will let Darrin know you said thanks!
Hi CT you two are a great team, can wait for you to fit it into the car. I would fit a temporary fuel tank and drive it about
@@jamiewalton23 Thanks man! Yes, that's a good idea! I'l be driving it in the next few weeks if all goes well.
No type4 aftermarket cases in production as yet. But I believe Jake Raby is developing one.
Nearly T4 cases are aluminium. Only a very rare few of the early 1700 cases were magnesium cases.
Good to know. I'm curious to find out what the case is like from the 1972 VW Camper Bus I purchased last year. I pulled the engine out and it was seized. It's in bad shape. Hopefully we can save that one as well.
@@CTmoog I'm sure you can save it. Speak to European Motor works in California for most of your parts and advice. They do a lot of work with Type4 motors parts and machining. Getting the case properly linebore is not easy to find. There's lots just throwing a line bore through and thinking they've made the case true again. This is usually not the situation and the case halves are still bent at the case mating face. In this situation the case halves need to be faced and cam tunnel and oil pump hole remachined to spec. Then all the studs can go back in and then the line nore can be done afterwards.
@@mathewboyd3746 That is great information. I will check them out. The bus engine is basically them same but has some different attachments.
@@CTmoog yes, the bus case is basically the same. Barrels, heads, crank etc are all inter changeable with the 914 engine parts etc. You got a win with that windage tray. These are unavailable now.
Fantastic !!!!
Hey CT, layed out like that it looks awsome. Keep on rockin, take care as always, Guy fro Oz 👍
Thanks Guy!
Truly correct about the gasket she spoke about when you use silicone on a paper or cork gasket silicone actually dissolves the gasket and turns it into mush that's why Aviation Permatex is great on paper gaskets course if you have your surfaces flat should not have to use any gasket sealer but Bolton the cases together Aviation Permatex do not use silicone one more on gaskets like that I usually will paint the gasket on both sides with the Permatex with a piece of cardboard makes it easier to stall in the gasket and less of a mess
Excellent, very cool!
Thank you!
New,,, mucha lluvia por allá
Thank you! =)
I was considering a type 4 for my Beetle, would have made a great performance upgrade but for the cost you could have two decent built type 1's. Shame because I've seen type 4's punched out to almost 3 liters. There's a few companies out there making kits for a beetle conversion but the prices are crazy expensive.
That would be cool to see. I didn't know they fit in the Beetle. Yes, it is more expensive to build for sure.
The complete 38mm exhaust system needed for the 1.7 &1.8 beetle conversion is crazy expensive. The 42mm is available, but its too big for 1.7,1.8 engines.
@@vintage76vipergreenBeetle Does Vintage Speed stock one?
Fantástico brother o teu trabalho este motor é muito parecido com nosso 1600 brasileiro com dupla carburação só o nosso cárter é bem diferente um forte abraço dos brasileiros
Nice and shiny
Thanks man!
Art
Thanks man! I agree!
Was there a show somewhere inside these ads ......... must have missed it !!!
Yes, I guess those ads got your attention! =)
@@CTmoog HEY C T you've gone up in my estimation , many creaters ignore or hide negative comment .... so bravo ! !! As for the ads..... yes that many start to encroach and effect the enjoyment of the content ....I know you've got to make a living but I feel you're at a tipping point where many might switch off , you have the analytics so I'm willing to be schooled ... is your audience the same ? Do they watch less time on your videos ? Anyway its your project ...I hope if nothing else I raised a smile from you 😊☺🙂😄
@@meichong8278 Hey Mei! I'm smiling! =) Thanks for watching and putting up with the ads. It helps to fund the projects. Thank you my friend!
Remmele in Germany makes a billet aluminum CNC case for the T4 with OEM dimensions, and Overfly has a 16V case without the camshaft bore features since it's all in the heads.
Was that yamabond he was using to seal the case. We started using that back in the early 80s. worked the best. I would use silicone today it should work fine too. mega grey would work too but it might be really hard to split that case a second time.
So many different lubrifiants ! I can understand why
Off topic but... hearing that rain - wishing it would keep away from Surfside for a little while longer...
Yes, it's coming down hard!
Оппозитный двигатель с водяным охлаждением сложнее в сборке .
Thank you! =)
I think the silicone shrinks as it drys, which may be raising hell with the paper gaskets…
What case sealant did you use? I noticed VW Darrin didn't use the black aircraft Peratex sealant...
Looks good. What was the brand of sealant used on the case, instead of the aviation stuff?
permatex ultra grey
hey there, currently rebuilding my type 4 engine and im wondering what you used to seal the crankcase halves together. i have aviation permatex and no. 2 permatex but i am unable to find VW case glue
Where's the next video! I want to buy this whole engine haha!
CT what kind of assembly lube or sealant did you put on the fan end crank seal before you put the case halves together?
You forgot to put the nests back under the shrouds.
Hello
I have a type 4 porsche engine to rebuild and, looking at your very clean work, I have a few questions:
how did you clean the housings?
Have you grinded the cylinders into the cylinder heads?
The screws and nuts seem new. Where do they come from ?
I hope I can rebuild my engine in a few days after taking this lesson!
Thakns
Hello, thank you! We cleaned the case with diesel, purple power, brake cleaner. The heads, pistons and cylinders are new from AA performance products. The screws and nuts are all original. I vapor lasted them. Please search the 914world forums, Google and UA-cam for for more info. It's out there but you have to search for it. Good luck with your build. I hope this helps. Keep us updated. If you have more questions please ask.
Can you explain how the cam was aligned to the crank? Why were the bearings marked on top?
🖤
=)
Hey guys, are you bringing out a part 4 of this rebuild?
Any vids of the engine running after rebuilding?
Sunday if all goes well! =)
Awesome I’ll look for it. Great job on everything
Or a vid of the shroud going back together? I guess that’s before engine install
DON'T TOUCH THAT NUT! the critical nut!
Question for you…can you use a type 1 2180 in a 914?
Never mind a nut or a bolt. What's the difference between a motor and an engine?
(wiper engine, heater fan engine, hydraulic engine)
What happened to the 67 Ghia??? Did it go away?
No, I was just messing around with it today. It needs a new engine. That engine is toast.
@@CTmoog Thanks, was worried it got sent to the old rust home. Looking forward to the rest of it's recovery.
If anyone is watching this still I just bought 1979 Vw bud and I was curious what to find these kits
Hey CT
Have you started at 9:14 yet inquiring minds want to know thank you
When I saw you applying silicone around the outer perimeter of the engine the first thought through my head was “Welp….all those studs are going to end up weeping oil and that case is going to be a bitch to get apart after all that oil gums up on them.” What is sealing the studs from oil?
What's the compression ratio?
What kind of sealant are you using and what is the name of it ?
permatex ultra grey and permatex aircraft sealant
@@CTmoog Im glad darrin said the brown sealant isnt as good anymore. Still building up the courage to build my own motor. Very good stuff to know! thanks
Also Curil K-2 is a good sealant for case halves and a yellow 3M adhesive is good for the cylinder bases.
Hi just watched you building T4 engine do you like putting it together the hard way you said VW don't use a sealer yes they do when you fit the oil pump you should leave the nuts and bolt around the pump loose you should not put sealer around the rubber front & rear seal's you used new cylinder heads did they not need cylinder head rings??? Why didn't you put the rocker shaft studs in when the cylinder heads were on the bench I'am surprised I can see on your video you have VW engine's in your workshop buy the way the oil relief valve is not for that engine that's why you had to change the spring.
the valve lifters have been left out
CT where The close caption men.
It should be there. You have to turn it on on your device.
@@CTmoog Hi CT in all my devices are on because I have problems with my ears. In some of your videos I can see the close caption and in others I can't.
@@aliensprtcrico You have to click the CC at the bottom of the video. It should have a red line under it when it is activated.
What book is that??
Hallo Jungs, sorry, aber Silikondichtmittel hat an axialgeteilten Gehäuse nichts zu suchen ;-( Das Silikonzeug ist hier bie an die Hauptlager geschmiert und verstopft so den Ölrücklauf. Leider wurde die Pampe auch unter die Zylinderfüße geschmiert. Es gibt eindeutige Vorgaben welches Dichtmittel zu verwenden ist. Z.B. das amerobe Dichtmittel Loctite 574
In den letzten Jahren kommen immer mehr solcher zusammengepappter Motoren aus Amilan zurück nach Europa. Silikon muss auf der anderen Seite des teiches billig sein ----lol----
what kind of book did you read
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