After I saw that you have two sander I decided to buy two sander. One is harbor freight and the other is porter cable. I tried both of your method of what you demonstrated on this video on my harbor freight sander and it works excellent thank you.
Dude!! My mom and dad had all types of old phones and other electronics. I would take them apart as a kid and try to put them back together. I'm so glad you said that it's a good activity for kids. It comes in handy in the future.
Learned to fix my dryer and several computer because of the "if it's already broken..." mantra. Got them up and working just fine. Sometimes, it takes a bit of thinking things through to find a solution, but if you'll hang in there and you'll usually figure it out.
Boss instruction vid! The dust removal inside the tool was neat. The final switch-spray reminded me of what all I had to do to fix a big wet-dry canister vacuum was to clean the contacts on the freaking switch..... AFTER I had disassembled and cleaned it out and put it back together....1 1/2 hours later.
That's how I learn to fix things when I was a kid! I would take apart things my dad had that were broken and I would figure out how to fix them! I was able to fix a weed whacker that someone threw away in the dumpster...oh, and also and oscillating fan! Great video, Eric!
Great idea....I've had a Palm sanded for over 20 years and the switch finally went out,soo I bought a new one with the bag,but I will fix the switch with the inline switch...never even thought of it.....thx Eric.
+stuart sullenbarger try hitting the switch with the electronics cleaner first before adding in the inline switch, that fixed one of mine right away. thx!
I took out 2 of the same sander in the same way. They're good as new now. Also clogged up an obital sander, oscillating tool, and a shop vac. Took everything apart and cleaned all the drywall dust out
Thanks dude! I just took my apart (exact same model as yours) and blew it out with air and sprayed it down with cleaner. I plugged it back in and it didn’t come on until about 10 seconds later. But hey, it’s working. I like my little sander and glad it’s fixed thanks to you.
I decided to try to fix my old mouse sander that stopped working after I used it pretty hard. I took it apart a blew it out real good with an air compressor plugged it in an still no power so, I get on UA-cam to find a solution and your video was the right one I took it apart and sprayed inside the armature and sprayed the bearing with some WD -40 even though it was in good shape and put back together but nothing so, I took your advice on the switch and sprayed it with the electrical cleaner and tried to get the spray in their real good and plugged it back up and it started working so, I'm guessing it was just dirty inside the switch. Thanks for the help!
once again I salute you for your most useful, practical and methodical presentations to help us have a richer, more sustainable life that works better and better with each of your videos. Great camera work too. Delightful!
Cheers for this! Did not know the switch could be an issue on powered sanders (motor spun freely; no fuse blown, usual suspects) Guess thats my job tonight! ;)
Good job, Eric. I used to fix power tools for a living and the parts are cheap, so there's no reason not to. Of course you end up with old tools instead of shiny new toys.
Great video. You cold easily have edited that switch error out, but didn't, which is a good lesson as it's so easy to forget once you start doing repeated electrical tests. Some nice tips in there too.
You're missing the point, Eric. A broken tool is the perfect excuse to buy the newest version! :-) That said, when I'd bring my garbage to the town transfer station I'd usually find kid's bikes set next to the hopper. I'd bring them home and fix them up for donation. I can't tell you how many times I brought bikes home only to find the only thing wrong with them was a flat tire! Dad was either too lazy, or just had no clue, and it was easier to flash a credit card than get their hands dirty.
+LongBinh70 there you go! i would like a new reciprocating saw with one of those quick blade change chucks on it, mine has an allen screw. great you fix up bikes like that, eric.
Inspirational - thanks. I already replaced my sander, but now I'll try resurrecting my old one. My only criticism is that it would have been worth the effort to track down a replacement switch instead of using an in-line switch because the sander is far more usable if you can turn it on or off with the hand that's holding it, without having to put it down or use your other hand, which may not be free.
my point with the inline switch is for older sanders, where you can't find the replacement, the inline is a good solution. on another sander i was able to just spray electric contact cleaner into the switch and that solved the problem. thx!
you can get a replacement switch for these things, you could also wrap a bare wire around the base of switch where the push ons are then tape it, this will keep the connectors there for when you get the switch in. nice vid
+GardenFork You can probably find a replacement switch on Digikey or Mouser for less than a dollars. It would be safer and would keep the original tool "look"
even if it can't be fixed it's worth going in to have a look -so worth the try. For "see if it starts" try loose assemble first. Switch could have been replaced cheap from ebay. Sounds very good after clean up.
I'm sanding some soft wood and my sander started to slow down suddenly. Later it completely stopped moving, I mean the oscillation stopped, but the electric motor was still running. I don't want to buy a new one, and I'm sure it isn't the switch that causes the problem... I like your video, I'm a repairman-type, too. :-) But I haven't taken a sander apart before, but if you can do it, so can I ;-)
I find it amazing that nice and expensive tools use such cheap switches. When you took the old switch off couldn't you have just bought a new switch and plugged it into the wire ends instead of an in line switch?
+TheSilverLdy perhaps. my point here was if you need to have the tool up and working right away, or if you couldn't buy the switch, you can put in an in-line switch and make your tool new again. thx! eric.
Eric, Are those new pine doors or are you refinishing old ones? Those blotches look like areas where something like fungal action has altered the cell structure of the wood, making affected and unaffected areas take the stain differently.
You really should disconnect the switch when testing it with the multi-meter. My switch was faulty but i was getting readings from the 2 wires that are connected to the switch once you take off the switch from the circuit board you can test it properly. Enjoyed the video
easy to fix those switches if you know remedies you can open up that switch and clean the inner parts. cause by dirty contact but be careful of the tiny parts that will pop up but better replace it with a new one
Can i make you a question, i have the same palm sander, and the problem i deal is huge vibrations. the bearings are ok, the carbons replaced, so is there a chance that the rotor/stator makes noise and vibrates?
I was thinking the other day while i was fixing a soda streamer. How much things we - (humans) throw away, which sometimes is actually not too hard to fix. I also like to fix things. Not always working ofc. But I like the whole challange. btw The sodastreamer is now working ;) Good job with your repair :)
Dear GardenFork, I have a skil 7366 and have problems whith de sensor, is always red, how I can repair?, I tried but it does not work. Thank you for your time. Regards,
like you said, if it's already broke, you can't break it more! often people don,t even take a shot at it, a huge part of the time a cleaning do the tricks, with electric stuff, it,s usually the extension cord broken at either end, the plug or the switch, and what i learned recently, if it's electronics, often it's a capacitor gone bad
The problem on the second door was caused by water. At one point the door was splashed with water, and every spot where there was water caused the grain to be raised, and to absorb more stain (dark spots). I've seen this happen several times, and it's always very annoying. One solution (too late now) would have been to sand the spots (by hand) with lots of stain and sandpaper (wet the sandpaper with the stain) and just slightly wet-sand the spots until everything blends in. Sometimes this works really great (especially if the wood was already sanded with the same grit sandpaper) but sometimes it doesn't work well and you just see all the sanded areas as sort of cloudy patchy spots. Normally the whole surface needs a light scuffing (including unaffected areas) for the stain to absorb evenly. These kind of prefabricated doors tend to be either NOT sanded, or machine sanded (rough) on only half the surfaces (like the stiles and rails of the doors but not the panels, which have a fresh cut/planed and polished sort of surface). I would suggest NOT using a palm sander here. You are likely to get tons of swirl marks (like a Spirograph). Just hand sand the areas with a sponge pad using 150 grit paper until everything looks nice and even (light brown), and try re-staining it. If most of that side of the door is all like that, I'd suggest a random orbital sander, but never a square palm sander. Another thing to keep in mind is that if this one door is sanded (let's say really nicely with 150 over that whole side), it may turn out a lot darker than the factory finished door that wasn't sanded. My advice is based on experience as a professional cabinetmaker for over 15 years. Good job on the sanders. If you were pickier, there's a chance the same replacement switches could be ordered online. I had to do this for my shop vac, and I wanted the same exact one. I think it cost me 4$ with shipping, and it worked out great!
+sooth15 wow thanks for all that! i thought mbe the door had been splashed with something along the way to create those spots. great info, thanks for taking the time to write it all out and sharing, eric.
U see, we(I mean we) fixed broken power hand tool by accident sometimes, lesson: don't hesitate to try. Just in time, my b&d palm sander vibrate unusual.
Jesus Christ, we almost watched you electrocute yourself at 5:35. I find all this fascinating to watch, but I'll be honest with you, I really have no interest or tools to fix this type of thing and no tools to fix. I'm the guy perfectly comfortable hiring a handy man and watching videos of do-it-yourself guys doing it themselves. My wife gives me sh!t, but I'm okay with that.
After I saw that you have two sander I decided to buy two sander. One is harbor freight and the other is porter cable.
I tried both of your method of what you demonstrated on this video on my harbor freight sander and it works excellent thank you.
Dude!! My mom and dad had all types of old phones and other electronics. I would take them apart as a kid and try to put them back together. I'm so glad you said that it's a good activity for kids. It comes in handy in the future.
Learned to fix my dryer and several computer because of the "if it's already broken..." mantra. Got them up and working just fine. Sometimes, it takes a bit of thinking things through to find a solution, but if you'll hang in there and you'll usually figure it out.
That was some real live unedited repair nice abit surprise it was connected on the spark moment 😊 thanks it helped me
Boss instruction vid! The dust removal inside the tool was neat. The final switch-spray reminded me of what all I had to do to fix a big wet-dry canister vacuum was to clean the contacts on the freaking switch..... AFTER I had disassembled and cleaned it out and put it back together....1 1/2 hours later.
i've done the same thing many times! thx.
That's how I learn to fix things when I was a kid! I would take apart things my dad had that were broken and I would figure out how to fix them!
I was able to fix a weed whacker that someone threw away in the dumpster...oh, and also and oscillating fan!
Great video, Eric!
+russtex good to hear Russ, i see many fans in the trash here. thx!
Most of the time a leaf blower to the back of the fan to remove the built up dust and a drop of oil where the motor spins gets and keeps them running.
Great idea....I've had a Palm sanded for over 20 years and the switch finally went out,soo I bought a new one with the bag,but I will fix the switch with the inline switch...never even thought of it.....thx Eric.
+stuart sullenbarger try hitting the switch with the electronics cleaner first before adding in the inline switch, that fixed one of mine right away. thx!
Worked for my Skill Palmer Sander! Thanks.
I took out 2 of the same sander in the same way. They're good as new now. Also clogged up an obital sander, oscillating tool, and a shop vac. Took everything apart and cleaned all the drywall dust out
Thanks dude! I just took my apart (exact same model as yours) and blew it out with air and sprayed it down with cleaner. I plugged it back in and it didn’t come on until about 10 seconds later. But hey, it’s working. I like my little sander and glad it’s fixed thanks to you.
I needed this video last month so bad.
I decided to try to fix my old mouse sander that stopped working after I used it pretty hard. I took it apart a blew it out real good with an air compressor plugged it in an still no power so, I get on UA-cam to find a solution and your video was the right one I took it apart and sprayed inside the armature and sprayed the bearing with some WD -40 even though it was in good shape and put back together but nothing so, I took your advice on the switch and sprayed it with the electrical cleaner and tried to get the spray in their real good and plugged it back up and it started working so, I'm guessing it was just dirty inside the switch. Thanks for the help!
once again I salute you for your most useful, practical and methodical presentations to help us have a richer, more sustainable life that works better and better with each of your videos. Great camera work too. Delightful!
+BarbaraL Lowell thanks again for the kind words Barbara! eric.
so cool and so empowering
Your video helped and I fixed my palm sander
Cheers for this! Did not know the switch could be an issue on powered sanders (motor spun freely; no fuse blown, usual suspects) Guess thats my job tonight! ;)
Very helpful, but if you see some sparking in the sander but it hasn't completely failed yet would this fix that situation as well?
Good job, Eric. I used to fix power tools for a living and the parts are cheap, so there's no reason not to. Of course you end up with old tools instead of shiny new toys.
+Reverend Blair thx Blair, these two cleaned up pretty good, going to see if i can order some of those toggle switches for the future. thx! eric.
Sanders dont stay shiny anyway! 👍
Great Video, I fixed mine too. It was the switch.
First video of yours I saw. +1 subscriber. Thanks
Great video. You cold easily have edited that switch error out, but didn't, which is a good lesson as it's so easy to forget once you start doing repeated electrical tests. Some nice tips in there too.
Good call!
Good job! I'll be adding electronic cleaner to my fixing attempts.
+unlabuntenga i have a circular saw from a flooded basement, going to try the elect cleaner spray on it to see what happens.
You're missing the point, Eric. A broken tool is the perfect excuse to buy the newest version! :-) That said, when I'd bring my garbage to the town transfer station I'd usually find kid's bikes set next to the hopper. I'd bring them home and fix them up for donation. I can't tell you how many times I brought bikes home only to find the only thing wrong with them was a flat tire! Dad was either too lazy, or just had no clue, and it was easier to flash a credit card than get their hands dirty.
+LongBinh70 there you go! i would like a new reciprocating saw with one of those quick blade change chucks on it, mine has an allen screw. great you fix up bikes like that, eric.
I bet alot of good tools get thrown away just because of a bad switch. Great video!
+mcLuvineer exactly! i had these two sanders on a shelf for months, and then when I needed one, i thought, lets see if we can fix em. thx! eric.
I salute you!
gotta admit that I laugh when you're shorting the switch :lol
nice video, man... I enjoyed it :thup
Yeah! Thx for watching!
Inspirational - thanks. I already replaced my sander, but now I'll try resurrecting my old one. My only criticism is that it would have been worth the effort to track down a replacement switch instead of using an in-line switch because the sander is far more usable if you can turn it on or off with the hand that's holding it, without having to put it down or use your other hand, which may not be free.
my point with the inline switch is for older sanders, where you can't find the replacement, the inline is a good solution. on another sander i was able to just spray electric contact cleaner into the switch and that solved the problem. thx!
Awesome job, Eric!
+Copperhouse Farm thx! eric.
Good stuff man! Another tool saved, 2 actually.
You slay me, Eric. The dogs, and I, are still laughing! Good video, as usual. Keep 'em coming.
+Cup Holder good to hear, have some more new vids this week. thx!
Nice work.
Luckily i had some of that cleaner. My milwaukee sander was 4 hours old and the switch stopped working! Works great now
Hi what settings did you use on the multimeter?
nice video dude, this is good quality information
after spraying the second switch did you rethink your decision to cut off the switch from the first one without spraying it first?
+Guy Mooglie mbe! eric.
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you can get a replacement switch for these things, you could also wrap a bare wire around the base of switch where the push ons are then tape it, this will keep the connectors there for when you get the switch in.
nice vid
+Rev John O'Toole yes, you could put in a jumper wire. i think those switches may be universal, or at least common. eric.
+GardenFork You can probably find a replacement switch on Digikey or Mouser for less than a dollars. It would be safer and would keep the original tool "look"
Thanks for showing how
Stereo palm sanders - I like it.
+Robert Von Bruns had not thought of that, but yes! eric.
Very nice!
even if it can't be fixed it's worth going in to have a look -so worth the try. For "see if it starts" try loose assemble first. Switch could have been replaced cheap from ebay. Sounds very good after clean up.
+James Campbell funny when things work on GardenFork, isn't it? eric.
I'm sanding some soft wood and my sander started to slow down suddenly. Later it completely stopped moving, I mean the oscillation stopped, but the electric motor was still running. I don't want to buy a new one, and I'm sure it isn't the switch that causes the problem... I like your video, I'm a repairman-type, too. :-) But I haven't taken a sander apart before, but if you can do it, so can I ;-)
GF WHAT SIZE BRUSHES WERE IN THE SANDERS??? THANKS, JOE
Not sure, sorry!
I find it amazing that nice and expensive tools use such cheap switches. When you took the old switch off couldn't you have just bought a new switch and plugged it into the wire ends instead of an in line switch?
+TheSilverLdy perhaps. my point here was if you need to have the tool up and working right away, or if you couldn't buy the switch, you can put in an in-line switch and make your tool new again. thx! eric.
Eric, Are those new pine doors or are you refinishing old ones? Those blotches look like areas where something like fungal action has altered the cell structure of the wood, making affected and unaffected areas take the stain differently.
+ForgottenMan1 they are new pine doors, i think something may have splashed on them at the store or in shipment, weird stuff! eric.
What's the motor inside the palm sander? I'm looking to make my own for fun
What do you think of harbor freight tools?
You really should disconnect the switch when testing it with the multi-meter. My switch was faulty but i was getting readings from the 2 wires that are connected to the switch once you take off the switch from the circuit board you can test it properly. Enjoyed the video
I'm trying to fix my sander but one of the brushes came off the and I can't seem to know how to put it back☹️
Found a palm sander in dumpster when took trash out(dumpsterdiving😂). It’s running a diffrent speeds and just trying learn something maybe to try.
easy to fix those switches if you know remedies you can open up that switch and clean the inner parts. cause by dirty contact but be careful of the tiny parts that will pop up but better replace it with a new one
Can i make you a question, i have the same palm sander, and the problem i deal is huge vibrations. the bearings are ok, the carbons replaced, so is there a chance that the rotor/stator makes noise and vibrates?
sorry, couldn't tell without looking at it. that has not happened to me.
I was thinking the other day while i was fixing a soda streamer. How much things we - (humans) throw away, which sometimes is actually not too hard to fix.
I also like to fix things. Not always working ofc. But I like the whole challange. btw The sodastreamer is now working ;)
Good job with your repair :)
+Jim Rob glad the sodastream is working! yes, i couldn't throw out the tools, eric.
Dear GardenFork, I have a skil 7366 and have problems whith de sensor, is always red, how I can repair?, I tried but it does not work. Thank you for your time.
Regards,
sorry, i can't help with that one, not sure myself. thx!
Thank you!
Way to go!
+rryder994 great to have the tools working again! eric.
I've fixed a few...beats buying a new one.
Red
like you said, if it's already broke, you can't break it more! often people don,t even take a shot at it, a huge part of the time a cleaning do the tricks, with electric stuff, it,s usually the extension cord broken at either end, the plug or the switch, and what i learned recently, if it's electronics, often it's a capacitor gone bad
+martin blouin Hi Martin, i have a free shop vac just because of a bad power cord. good to hear from you, eric.
Can you post a video on circular saw repair?
+Ian Khan hi Ian, I haven't broke one yet, but thx!
oh because in one of your videos you said you fixed a circular saw that why i asked. sorry
Awesome! :D
Be safe, security first
the original switch can be Picked uP at an Ace Hardware
The problem on the second door was caused by water. At one point the door was splashed with water, and every spot where there was water caused the grain to be raised, and to absorb more stain (dark spots). I've seen this happen several times, and it's always very annoying.
One solution (too late now) would have been to sand the spots (by hand) with lots of stain and sandpaper (wet the sandpaper with the stain) and just slightly wet-sand the spots until everything blends in. Sometimes this works really great (especially if the wood was already sanded with the same grit sandpaper) but sometimes it doesn't work well and you just see all the sanded areas as sort of cloudy patchy spots. Normally the whole surface needs a light scuffing (including unaffected areas) for the stain to absorb evenly. These kind of prefabricated doors tend to be either NOT sanded, or machine sanded (rough) on only half the surfaces (like the stiles and rails of the doors but not the panels, which have a fresh cut/planed and polished sort of surface).
I would suggest NOT using a palm sander here. You are likely to get tons of swirl marks (like a Spirograph). Just hand sand the areas with a sponge pad using 150 grit paper until everything looks nice and even (light brown), and try re-staining it. If most of that side of the door is all like that, I'd suggest a random orbital sander, but never a square palm sander.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if this one door is sanded (let's say really nicely with 150 over that whole side), it may turn out a lot darker than the factory finished door that wasn't sanded.
My advice is based on experience as a professional cabinetmaker for over 15 years.
Good job on the sanders. If you were pickier, there's a chance the same replacement switches could be ordered online. I had to do this for my shop vac, and I wanted the same exact one. I think it cost me 4$ with shipping, and it worked out great!
+sooth15 wow thanks for all that! i thought mbe the door had been splashed with something along the way to create those spots. great info, thanks for taking the time to write it all out and sharing, eric.
Or you could take the in-line switch and see if it is the same switch to replace it.
Yes Greg, that works too , thx!
Thx Eric...I will dry that first....
i think i'll keep all my power tools plugged in while i am cleaning or repairing them just as a challenge. :P
+SentOne1000 funny. glad i didn't jolt myself... eric.
+SentOne1000 same here! eric.
And keep a ceramic cup full of tea nearby too!
U see, we(I mean we) fixed broken power hand tool by accident sometimes, lesson: don't hesitate to try. Just in time, my b&d palm sander vibrate unusual.
If you want, I can send photos by email.
You can replace the same switch with a switch of the same size
why not desolder the new switch and put it in the device its the same switch
If you are lucky your ohmeter still works.
+madisonelectronic i'm lucky I didn't hurt myself! have to check the meter, thx, eric.
Im buying a new one :)
Jesus Christ, we almost watched you electrocute yourself at 5:35. I find all this fascinating to watch, but I'll be honest with you, I really have no interest or tools to fix this type of thing and no tools to fix. I'm the guy perfectly comfortable hiring a handy man and watching videos of do-it-yourself guys doing it themselves. My wife gives me sh!t, but I'm okay with that.
+seoul588 i'm okay with that too, ;) glad you watch, thx! eric.