ah memories... 40+ years ago, I was trying to understand this as it was explained to me on a chalk board. A couple of years later, two newly minted PPL buddies, girlfriends in the back seat of a Cherokee, flying VORs chasing the needles all night long from Canada to Florida... great fun.
Ya sounds like fun boomer, how was it living in this country back then before your generation let this country be turned into the filth that ours is forced to live in today?
I guess most pilots under the age of 40 do not remember the old RNAV or Area Navigation navigation system prior to the invention of the GPS. It was a system that allows you to tune a VOR and electronically move the station over your course so you flew a straight line and only had to use the CDI the same way you use it now with the GPS. It did this by inputting the VOR’s DME from your course and the radial that intercepted it. It was kind of cumbersome to enter, but it actually worked like you were flying a GPS straight line instead of navigating a zigzag pattern from VOR to VOR. One other system for long range, especially over the ocean tracks, there was Loran C.
This was huge, thank you. Headed into my written exam for my Instrument rating and the VOR stuff never ceases to make me scream. After watching this video I totally brought up my FS2020, took off from Sheridan County Airport, and practiced monkey-barring between victor airways just to see what the CDI needles would do.
Tip for back course navigation: The needle on the CDI actually shows the course on the compass rose below it that you could fly to reintercept the radial. Just a bit hard to read upside down but should be do-able.
WOW. Your instruction is so clear, both with visual aids and verbal explanations. I learned so much from you excellent video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Please keep up the good work and videos.
In my younger years, I taught ground school at the local flying club, and quite often the reciptical was sometimes hard to figure out by some of the students, so here is what I recommended. Regardless of the course, the fast, easy way was to add 200 hundred, minus 20, or depending on the course, subtract 200 hundred and add 20, it always works out perfectly.
I'm the same as you, and, yes, this is the best ever. It took me forever to realize that if you are ON a radial, you are always FROM the station. You never fly TO the station unless you're flying the reciprocal. Once you realize that, everything starts to fall into place. But reverse sensing was a new one. And, yeah, make heading and the VOR index agree to save your brain.
“You lose some IQ points in the cockpit” EXACTLY! I’ve said for years, sit down in the left seat, you instantly lose 20 IQ points. Guess I didn’t originate the saying. 😆 Should be a standard training mantra, so that every student expects a certain dumbness factor and adopts the mindset to compensate accordingly.
I practiced along on the website while watching this vid! I would recommend everyone else to do the same. Best way to learn is to practice. If you just watch this video and plan on doing it in the plane then it will beholder and will take more time! I think the reason being because at home you are more comfortable making any mistakes on the website, also you are alone just practicing again and again, not spending any money, and you aren't plane a whole plane so these are the reasons why it's better ti practice on the website! and there maybe more reasons assalamualaikum to why! there might be reasons to practice in the plane to but in any opinion it's better ti first do it on the website yourself.
At 22:50, and I'm sure you know this but just didn't think of it at the time, your heading indicator has has marks every 45 degrees around the edge, so you could simply line up that 45 degree offset mark with your original 122 heading to easily get you pointed at your intercept heading.
I like all your explanation videos. They help me a lot understanding IFR topics. One hint: I think that the radials are named so because they are radial lines from the center of the VOR. Not to be confused with "radiate and radiation"
I’ve found that thinking of your plane as a “dot” on a map takes out a bunch of the confusion. We’re so engrained to think whatever is on the “top” on our DG is where we’re headed, but when it’s at the “top” of a vor receiver, it usually isn’t so. We could be ON that number, but crossing it.
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from heading, distance to VOR, radial and distance of target from VOR one can calculate directly the heading and distance to target from current position
Dont forget to mention that the stations are magnetic and the rest of the sectional is charted in TRUE. Lucky for us instrument pilots, the charts we use are all magnetic.
is 45 degrees interception best way t intercept a radial ? Or is there a more scientific or mathematic explanation for having 45 degrees of interception ?
Hi there, but when have Autopilot on, in NAV mode let's say on the a320, and I have the VOR frequency and course set in MCDU, wouldn't the plane be tracking the VOR by itself, without having to play with the heading to intercept the inbound radial?
Ummmm I've got 113.55 Ch. 82 for SHR on sky vector and Airnav SHR .... maybe it's changed freq.??? Following on my computer at work ... it's slow today
The key attribute you've got to know about vors is that it doesn't know anything about the airplane's heading... No matter what heading you re on and what position you're relative to the vor.. The vor indication will be the same.
You do not have to go over the beacon per se. After all, an RNAV will use turn anticipation to prompt the turn (the caveat being some waypoints are ‘fly over’ waypoints). But if you go right back to first principles and consider that you have only a single VOR, then you do not know exactly how far from the beacon you are so you need to overhead it in order to turn at a known point and be sure of remaining inside the protected airspace.
@@zephaneas yes that is correct. You would start the turn based on DME shortly before the beacon, the actual distance depending on the radius you will get from a standard rate turn at your TAS (by applying some rule of thumb or simply when prompted by the RNAV).
I tried this app it seems to work if all you do is add VORs. I tried to load a VOR and a line and the VOR and line were not displayed and the VORs that were displayed were cleared leaving me with a blank display. All things considered this app is not very useful.
Agree with the others - best VOR video I've seen (and I watched a lot of them!) I'm just starting my instrument rating - on a VOR hold pattern does the pilot then dial the VOR 'to' and 'from' for each leg of the pattern?
This is a great question. It’s best to leave the setting alone once you’re established in the hold. So if you’re flying inbound to the VOR, leave it set so that it points TO until your cross over. When you’re outbound, there’s no need to reset the VOR bc there’s no guidance to follow. There’s a VOR hold video on this channel if you want more!
There is a much easier way to work out which course to fly regardless if it's to or from. Use the VOR compass. If the needle is to the left look 45 degrees up and to the left to give you your course you need to head to intercept. This works for both to and from and saves you having to Mentally rotate and also cuts out all the mathematics. SIMPLE
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ah memories... 40+ years ago, I was trying to understand this as it was explained to me on a chalk board. A couple of years later, two newly minted PPL buddies, girlfriends in the back seat of a Cherokee, flying VORs chasing the needles all night long from Canada to Florida... great fun.
Great to see you still have that passion that us new guys have, sir. Of course, I'm not a pilot, but hopefully in the future
@@hazikaiyan5903You got this!
Ya sounds like fun boomer, how was it living in this country back then before your generation let this country be turned into the filth that ours is forced to live in today?
VOR will be the death of me as I am studying for my PPL checkride I have it Friday so I'm trying my best to remember it all haha
This is literally the best VOR explanation I've ever seen 🙏
Affirm...
lol
I watched probably more than 20 videos about VOR and this one is the best, especially with this simulator thing. Well done!
It's really amazing that the VOR network started being built in 1937. What ingenuity they had that we still use this system until today.
Days are numbered. GPS
I’m in middle of getting my ppl and I was having a hard time understanding VOR for my written and this just made everything so clear. Great job
This is the best VOR explanation video i have seen so far. I am trying to learn VOR navigation flight for MSFS
Credit to you man, this is the singpe best COR explanation I have ever seen.
If anybody ever asks me for VOR help, im giving them this video.
I guess most pilots under the age of 40 do not remember the old RNAV or Area Navigation navigation system prior to the invention of the GPS. It was a system that allows you to tune a VOR and electronically move the station over your course so you flew a straight line and only had to use the CDI the same way you use it now with the GPS. It did this by inputting the VOR’s DME from your course and the radial that intercepted it. It was kind of cumbersome to enter, but it actually worked like you were flying a GPS straight line instead of navigating a zigzag pattern from VOR to VOR. One other system for long range, especially over the ocean tracks, there was Loran C.
I've been struggling with this so much and you just singlehandedly saved my life, THANK YOU!!!!
What an amazing explanation. I'm not a pilot, just a flight sim player. Now I fully understand the concept. Thank you for your time and effort.
This was huge, thank you. Headed into my written exam for my Instrument rating and the VOR stuff never ceases to make me scream. After watching this video I totally brought up my FS2020, took off from Sheridan County Airport, and practiced monkey-barring between victor airways just to see what the CDI needles would do.
The best teaching tool for navigating that I have ever seen before.
Thank you! Best video I've seen so far about tracking VORs! Thank you!
Outstanding video, the most concise and easy to understand I have ever seen on VOR navigation. Thank you
Tip for back course navigation: The needle on the CDI actually shows the course on the compass rose below it that you could fly to reintercept the radial. Just a bit hard to read upside down but should be do-able.
FIRST VIDEO I HAVE WATCHED THAT MADE SENSE!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
WOW. Your instruction is so clear, both with visual aids and verbal explanations. I learned so much from you excellent video. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Please keep up the good work and videos.
In my younger years, I taught ground school at the local flying club, and quite often the reciptical was sometimes hard to figure out by some of the students, so here is what I recommended. Regardless of the course, the fast, easy way was to add 200 hundred, minus 20, or depending on the course, subtract 200 hundred and add 20, it always works out perfectly.
This helps a ton with the IRA written test I have coming up! Thanks for all your videos sir!
Great video! I’m not a pilot irl, but I love aviation and this is the best VOR explanation video ever.
Thanks! VORs are weirdly interesting to me
I'm the same as you, and, yes, this is the best ever. It took me forever to realize that if you are ON a radial, you are always FROM the station. You never fly TO the station unless you're flying the reciprocal. Once you realize that, everything starts to fall into place. But reverse sensing was a new one. And, yeah, make heading and the VOR index agree to save your brain.
I totally agree, hands down the best explanation! Thanks so much for all efforts!
@@flightinsight9111 VORs are fun when everything just clicks
My pea brain's in pain after absorbing that! But you've explained it very clearly. Got it. Thanks. I hope I still have it tomorrow! Practice required.
“You lose some IQ points in the cockpit” EXACTLY! I’ve said for years, sit down in the left seat, you instantly lose 20 IQ points. Guess I didn’t originate the saying. 😆 Should be a standard training mantra, so that every student expects a certain dumbness factor and adopts the mindset to compensate accordingly.
wonderfully explained, i think i understand reverse sensing a little better now
The whole to and the number at the bottom got me lol will watch this a few times 🙌🏻 awesome 👏🏻
You just nailed it! Thanks a lot, now I can be a better pilot in MFS 😅
the way you use real world scenarios is very helpful!
Taking my exams soon and this video helped out a lot! Thank you. Keep up the great work!
Great to hear! VORs are a tricky area so if you’re good on those the test should be no sweat. Let us know how it goes!
howd ur exam goes?
I practiced along on the website while watching this vid! I would recommend everyone else to do the same. Best way to learn is to practice. If you just watch this video and plan on doing it in the plane then it will beholder and will take more time! I think the reason being because at home you are more comfortable making any mistakes on the website, also you are alone just practicing again and again, not spending any money, and you aren't plane a whole plane so these are the reasons why it's better ti practice on the website! and there maybe more reasons assalamualaikum to why! there might be reasons to practice in the plane to but in any opinion it's better ti first do it on the website yourself.
This is such a great video! Explained VOR in a simple and easy way to understand.
Great video on the Very High Frequency Omni Range (VOR) receiver. Old but true technology.
Wish I would have seen this. Idea before my stage 1 instrument ! You are the best :)
This is the best video I have seen on this topic. Thank you very much. Subscribed!!
At 22:50, and I'm sure you know this but just didn't think of it at the time, your heading indicator has has marks every 45 degrees around the edge, so you could simply line up that 45 degree offset mark with your original 122 heading to easily get you pointed at your intercept heading.
Very helpful tutorial, well explained. The VOR sim is very interesting, will be taking a look at it for practice.
Great video! Thank you so much for explaining that!
Great teaching...I'm glad I stumbled upon this site! Thank you.
That website is really cool thanks for sharing
I like all your explanation videos. They help me a lot understanding IFR topics.
One hint: I think that the radials are named so because they are radial lines from the center of the VOR. Not to be confused with "radiate and radiation"
A simple thank you seems indaequate, but thank you that was excellent for me.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 awesome explanation
Great information and teaching. Can’t thank you enough. KB
Perfect explanation! Thank you 🙏
Amazing tutorial
This is outstanding. Thank You
Hey thanks. I shared your video on my fb page and given you credit.
Now I get it... very well explained
I’ve found that thinking of your plane as a “dot” on a map takes out a bunch of the confusion. We’re so engrained to think whatever is on the “top” on our DG is where we’re headed, but when it’s at the “top” of a vor receiver, it usually isn’t so. We could be ON that number, but crossing it.
This was really helpful, thanks!
You're most welcome. VORs are not easy
Beginner here, so this is tough!
Thanks this really helped!!!
Excellent Video! Do you happen to have a link to a how-to video for setting up and using the Fergo IF Nav Simulator?
Amazing content! Thank you very much! 💪🏾✈️
Thank you for this very informative review of something that we, the gamers of this world, spend so much money on . I for one have been following AMD for some time and purchased their products, hoping for a better result each time. I am currently running 6950 in one rig and 6800 in another. Well, when I purchase a new card, I put the old one in the second box. I always hope for more noticeable improvement when purchasing a new card but, unfortunately, I never seem to get what I was hoping for. I know it´s rude to state the obvious but, Nvidia is generally well ahead in performance but also and more so when it comes to price. I still can´t justify spending the amount of money required on 4080 so, I´ll sit on my 6950 for a while and see what happens with the 7000 series in time to come.
from heading, distance to VOR, radial and distance of target from VOR one can calculate directly the heading and distance to target from current position
Amazing video! I understood everything
So glad to hear. VORs are tricky
Great video thanks
Best explanation you can get. Thank you :)
Dont forget to mention that the stations are magnetic and the rest of the sectional is charted in TRUE. Lucky for us instrument pilots, the charts we use are all magnetic.
So helpfull! Thank you!
Immensely helpful
You are the best!!
Nicely explained
Thank you so much, but what happen if you lose your VOR in a night flight ?
THANK. YOU.
Good stuff
How often are the frequencies changed and why would they change it? I ask because I just looked up the VOR now (2024) and the frequency is 113.55
Thank You
Perfect, thank you...
thanks
I vaguely remember VOR's from when I got my ticket 32 years ago. I didn't know they still existed.
Is VOR Navigation vulnerable to jamming? What is it commonly used for?
Missed an easy trick with the 45 degrees turns, they're marked on the wheel. Just look at them before you start, under the little yellow marker.
is 45 degrees interception best way t intercept a radial ? Or is there a more scientific or mathematic explanation for having 45 degrees of interception ?
Hi there, but when have Autopilot on, in NAV mode let's say on the a320, and I have the VOR frequency and course set in MCDU, wouldn't the plane be tracking the VOR by itself, without having to play with the heading to intercept the inbound radial?
Fantastic
Ummmm I've got 113.55 Ch. 82 for SHR on sky vector and Airnav SHR .... maybe it's changed freq.??? Following on my computer at work ... it's slow today
What software are u using to practice showing vor?
What is the name of this simulator?
The key attribute you've got to know about vors is that it doesn't know anything about the airplane's heading... No matter what heading you re on and what position you're relative to the vor.. The vor indication will be the same.
Very nice explanation. But I have one question... If you're flying from one VOR to another, do you reallly need to go right over each station?
You do not have to go over the beacon per se. After all, an RNAV will use turn anticipation to prompt the turn (the caveat being some waypoints are ‘fly over’ waypoints). But if you go right back to first principles and consider that you have only a single VOR, then you do not know exactly how far from the beacon you are so you need to overhead it in order to turn at a known point and be sure of remaining inside the protected airspace.
@@XPLAlN Nice explanation. But with DME I can fly past it witout gover right over, correct?
@@zephaneas yes that is correct. You would start the turn based on DME shortly before the beacon, the actual distance depending on the radius you will get from a standard rate turn at your TAS (by applying some rule of thumb or simply when prompted by the RNAV).
@@XPLAlN Thanks!
Help! When I try to set the OBS using the mouse wheel the instruments go blank.
I tried Chrome instead of Firefox and the malfunction does not occur. :)
I tried this app it seems to work if all you do is add VORs. I tried to load a VOR and a line and the VOR and line were not displayed and the VORs that were displayed were cleared leaving me with a blank display. All things considered this app is not very useful.
Amazony. I thought radial was related to the size of the circle that represents the VOR (the radius of the circle) lol
Agree with the others - best VOR video I've seen (and I watched a lot of them!) I'm just starting my instrument rating - on a VOR hold pattern does the pilot then dial the VOR 'to' and 'from' for each leg of the pattern?
This is a great question. It’s best to leave the setting alone once you’re established in the hold. So if you’re flying inbound to the VOR, leave it set so that it points TO until your cross over. When you’re outbound, there’s no need to reset the VOR bc there’s no guidance to follow. There’s a VOR hold video on this channel if you want more!
@@flightinsight9111 Ah, excellent. I'll look for the VOR hold video. Thanks!
Just watched it. Makes perfect sense. That is until I have to actually fly it. :D
I notice that you often say “ heading” when you mean “course.”
There is a much easier way to work out which course to fly regardless if it's to or from. Use the VOR compass. If the needle is to the left look 45 degrees up and to the left to give you your course you need to head to intercept. This works for both to and from and saves you having to Mentally rotate and also cuts out all the mathematics. SIMPLE
I can't see it on the screen.
Rose dial should have the whole number, as I beginner I would prefer to see 180 for South
Are you aware that we can’t see your tiny pointer? You ask us if we see “X”, but we don’t.
Explanation 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. VISUALS 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻. can you ZOOM IN?? Very HARD to SEE!!! “also” your POINTER “HARD to SEE”?? Can You use a BIGGER 1??? or LASER LIGHT. 😳 PLEASE! Please! please!
u need to zoom in on what your talking about.
Thank you! Agreed, it shows up small on mobiles etc.
I’m on a cellphone myself and this was absolutely perfect.
Susie Q glad to hear it, thanks!
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What a f-uped device...why hasn't someone made a device that is easy and simple to use?
Overly simplified and very lacking VOR "tutorial". Look elsewhere.
On a tutorial about VOR, you should have stated what V-O-R stands for in the very first line... But go on blabbering...
Well spoken, thanks good review for me.