Brought back memories of my MKV TSI when I got APR stage I. I drove away from New German Performance in Aberdeen Maryland and was totally blown away with the torque steer. Over the next two years I added the stage II APR tune, BSH CAI and Induktion Motorsports downpipe. The downpipe will give the next best performance gain for the cost as it allows the turbo to spool better and it doesn't have a hard angle for the exhaust exit. So.... in retrospect, I did have the stainless steel braid in the downpipe start to come apart I feel from the motor torque on the mounts. Therefore, one of your first preventive mods would be to upgrade motor mounts. This is very true for a lot of hot hatches like the Focus / Fiesta ST. I never had a clutch problem but did read about it on the forums. Mostly issues like heat saturation and the need for a better intercooler. Forge makes a nice one that is an add on (twintercooler). Last but not least, a high flow cat will still throw a CEL so you will need a spacer which solves the problem perfectly. Now, several cars later, I am thinking of doing it again and there are more tuners out there. APR is wonderful however.
LastHumansGarage I had a 08 WRX last year, blew the motor rebuilt it and it was awesome I loved it. But I ended up getting rid of it for a tdi but now I have the gti and I love this thing so much !
GTI is really a great every day driver... chill before you hit turbo @2800, and then it goes when you want it to. Insides are so efficiently designed that it feels huge for such a small car.
I just got a 2021 GTI with a DSG and even stock I love it. I heard someone else refer to the WRX as having a Horsepower engine where the GTI has a Torque engine. I had a 2015 WRX with a CVT and a 2017 WRX with a standard transmission and I would say that it certainly feels that way to me. The GTI is a lot funner to drive than either of my WRX's were.
ravenstylea2 thanks for the info raven! I guess it's kinda to late now :/ but hopefully everything will be fine ! Just rolled over 2400 miles with the tune on ! But grats on the tune! Really makes the car so much better
To Anyone considering doing the APR tune and had a manual transmission: don't waste the $700 unless you have $1200+ already set aside for a performance clutch. I have a 2016 and romped on it constantly after the tune because it's addicting but my clutch started slipping 6500 miles in and by 8k my clutch couldn't hold any of the power. Now I've been driving it detuned for months because I have no business buying a new clutch right now. So if you have the extra money, 100% do it. If not, wait.
I'm currently at 2,400 miles on my car and i haven't felt any slipping. Maybe it's still early but i will be having an update on the tune anyways. but it could also be the way you drive the car. Example: if you don't know how to shift properly(or get lazy often) and u slip the clutch when u shift you will wear out the surface faster and with the higher torque it will start to slip. But i wouldn't really say you shouldn't get the tune with out getting a clutch because i have a lot of friends stage 1 and even stage 2 with stock oem clutch.
just by sound alone I can tell you have the turbo muffler delete kit or a short ram intake or both. That sound is addicting & I can't wait to install mine on my mk6. I'm new to your channel & don't know your mod list yet, but if you don't already have one I advise you to get an oil catch can( preferably with the PVC delete) it's a little costly, but it'll save your intake manifold & prevent you from having to do a manual scrape later on down the line. A upgraded dogbone mount will make your smile even wider too. sorry for the paragraph
Hey thanks a lot for the comment ! Yeah if u check out my other videos i have a mods list in the description! Oil catch can is on my to do list of parts to buy during summer !
I got Stage 1 ECU and TCU and the Intake from APR on my 2016 Golf 7 R im from Vienna we got 100 plus Octane The Difference is Night and Day I choose the R because he got 4 Motion the GTI is a great Car but 4 wheel Drive is for me the better choice how many miles did you drive since the APR Tune and is everything fine ? Greetings from Vienna and enjoy your Car
I just replayed to a top comment, stock clutch still on at 40,500 miles with some good slip in 3rd and minimal in the rest of the gears, mainly only during full boost do I see it slip, weather and road conditions play a part with it aswell I noticed. Forsure not able to get all the power down anymore for long, so does need a new clutch to bring more of the fun back
@@brennankinder535 when I was stage 1 they had a low output TQ option that maybe would fit you. I didnt notice any slip when I was stage 1 but I cant speak if I stayed stage 1 until now that would be the case, mine did last and still is from about 20k miles to 40,500 now stage 2
Kevin, I have the 2016 GTI S 6 speed manual. On the fence about getting APR 1. Curious how you have to drive the car differently to compensate for the increased power. Have you taken your car on road trips such as extended highway distances and noticed anything that APR 1 makes better. Any input is appreciated.
On the stock "before-n-after" drive your car is making some great turbo noises. What other things have you done to make the turbo chirp and sing? I will be perfectly honest -- I am just getting the car and I'm not really interested in the tune right now but turbo noises are good entertainment.
hey Paul, yeah what really made the turbo free and make alot more noise was my Injen Short air intake and i also have a turbo muffler delete on the car aswell. big difference after thos 2 mods with the turbo noise. Also my BoV spacer is what u hear the most. that gives it the psshhh sound.
At pugi in downers grove, IL they told me it would all be covered besides the turbo. I had to sign a turbo warranty form stating I would cover turbo damage but all other areas were covered. Stage 2 40,500 miles later no major break downs and never has left me stranded! Knock on wood
Hey man loved the video! Just liked and subscribed. I have a question for you and it'd be nice if you could help me out. I just bought a 2017 gti and I saw the comment about how you can get it tuned at a dealership w/o voiding warranty. Is there a way to find out which dealerships are APR certified? Thanks!
Great video bro. I just bought my GTI S. They did not have any manuals, I like those better myself. How much was the tune? Do you have a CAI on the GTI? Thanks bro..
Hey Kev, does the tune from the dealership void any warranty? Also is your injen intake the evolution kit? If so where'd you order from and what $$? thanks!
At my dealership i was told my stage 1 APR would not void my warranty. Also i got my injen from a website called Autohance for $195. never shopped there until the intake but i couldn't pass up that price. other websites had it for like $260.
Wow that is sweet bro. Btw I just purchased my MK7 GTI S DSG last month. How much did it cost you for that APR stage 1? Thinking about going that route too. Just upgraded my stock filter to a K&n and btw did they give u a free APR stickers for your car just wondering. Thanks for the vid info that thing is a totally different animal now. Enjoy!
Mark Mante I paid 600 for the tune ! But I didn't not get apr stickers actually :( but I'm sure if I would have asked hey would have had some ! Thanks man !
nah you just gtta tune the TCU as well (Transmission control unit) and it can handle a lot more torque won't have to worry bout clutches even with the stage 2 tune.
Yeah so I would say since maybe 30-35k miles it started to slip getting into full boost in 3rd, 4th and so on, so I lost my favorite 3rd gear highway pulls and slips a decent amount. If I wait until I'm at about 4.5k rpms I'm all good to go but still depends on road conditions hills and so on. If I start in 1st (rarley) or 2nd gear I'm good all the way until I get to 4th where I need to let off a bit to prevent me burning it and being stranded. Normal driving is perfectly fine, hopefully this lasts for me to get a new one soon!
A bit off topic, but is your steering wheel stock? Perhaps its the camera angle, but it looks a lot fatter than the wheel on my 2015 GTI Autobahn. Thanks.
fernando martinez yes it is normal since I have the bov spacer. But after the Stage 1 the extra boost seems to be giving me compressor surge. So I'm thinking on upgrading mine to let the air out faster.
fernando martinez oh I will !! Ordered coilovers, dog bone insert, wheel spacers, boost tap, gauge pod for Black Friday/Cyber Monday just waiting on shipment !
How was your car just stock in the beginning of the video? That turbo blow off is not what I heard at the dealership. Did you have anything prior to the APR tune?
Yeah sorry. I just considered it stock because i only had a muffler/resonator delete which doesn't increase anything but sound, and i also had a Blow off valve spacer that also doesn't do anything performance related just sound.
Kevin's Garage thanks for replying. what you've done sounds real nice if you didn't add any hp prior to the tune. might need to look into that when I get mine.
Yeah some really nice mods like the BoV spacer, Muffler / resonator delete and a turbo muffler delete will really make the car sound very nice.. also just adding a intake also will REALLY make the turbo noise come out with only adding like maybe 8hp and 10tq
Yeah I definitely plan on buying an intake for the car. probably one of the first things I'll do to it. Any recommendations on intake? Also, is see COBB is coming out with an access port for the MK7 would you think of doing that over the APR tune if you didn't already get the APR tune?
I really like the Injen short ram intake i got for my car for 2 reason. 1. the price is very good for the quality of product u get, i paid $195 for mine. 2. the sound from the short ram is the best. Yeah, i did see that about cobb and it would only depend on if it would void my warranty or not. I liked APR because i got it done at the dealership and with this being my first "brand new" car i didn't wanna have the warranty voided 1 month after i got the car. I could see myself for sure getting the cobb later on because i had an access port for my Subaru and i loved having it and switching tunes on the go/logging information.
I got my APR stage 1 done at the dealership I bought the car from and as long as you stay stage 1 it doesn't void your warranty! (at least for my dealership)
yeah i was worried but the tune has been on 2,000 miles now and its running just like it did the day i got the tune! and the BoV was like 70 bucks. i only bought a spacer to make it vent out into the air to give it the noise for now.
I just installed mine the other day but it doesnt make the same flutter sound as yours? It makes more of a whooshy sound for me kinda like air breaks on a bus
Mike2469 ok yeah that's how mine was as well and it still sounded great to me. But I think what really put it over the top was after I got the tune the additional boost just made the bov even louder from it needed to vent more air !
Idk habit I guess, I just like to do it if I'm going fast and i dont want to engine brake, i just sit in neutral until my speed is slower then pop it into gear. Saves gas aswell, not that I do it for this reason just the way I drive
Omar Gonzales yeah it's the gti sport, so not really the base model. Has the sport package but other than that yeah just e-tune, intake, bov and a deleted muffler
It took about 1 hour to re flash and according to APR's dyno sheet its about 316hp and 381tq at the crank. and thats only stage 1 tune. With air intake might get about +8hp and +12tq or so on top of that.
Yes i got mine tuned at the dealership. If they are APR certified than yes you can get it tuned at dealership. and no it doesn't void the warranty as long as you stay stage 1.
Kevin's Garage The look on your face says it all!! Two questions: 1) any problems so far? 2) Will most Volkswagen dealerships do the tune? Do you just call them and ask if their certified to do a Stage 1 tune? I'm nervous to call mine and raise red flags that I'm planning to do it?
what do u mean by that ? the car is Stage 2 now and has been for awhile. but just stage 1 alone u feel a huge difference in the power and the way its delivered.
Would you suggest getting new wheels? Like wider wheels to handle the extra power? Does it become difficult to drive? You're talking about all of this wheel spin
Nicholas Rappa wider wheels would forsure help. But also some nice summer tires even on stock wheel sizes would work. Right now it's not too bad now that the weather has warmed up.
I think you will be ok, mine is the sport model with performance package (slightly bigger brakes than standard package) and never had the feeling I couldn't stop fast enough...yet
Hey Kevin, any clutch slip yet? I know it is early on, but just wondering. I have a 2015 GTI and am still on the fence about the tune. I tuned my 2007 GTI with APR Stage 1 and the clutch was slipping the second I drove out of the shop...then it stopped like a year later lol.
derekjlight no so far I haven't had any clutch slip. Witch I was also concerned about as well. But it's going strong ! When I go Stage 2 the stock clutch probably wont make it lol
Thanks, appreciate it. Did the dealership charge you any labor? I know this is a port flash and takes like 20-30 minutes depending on the car. What would you say is the most noticeable difference from stock?
derekjlight yeah they did charge me 1hr of labor. But I didn't mind since it keeps my warranty. But the most noticeable difference I would say is the increased torque. And the power delivery, the car is much much better with the Stage 1
So you still keep the warranty ? I'm really surprised. And the VW dealership did the tune ? How come ? Did you tell him something special to him ? What about wheels spinning
Yes as long as you don't go stage 2 i can keep the warranty. and thats for the motor mainly. if anything else happens it's still covered. and yeah the VW dealership had all the APR cables and software. I didn't need to say anything special to them. as far as wheel spin it spins 1st, 2nd and part of 3rd but it was still semi cold out when i got the tune so ill need to wait for summer to really see how she runs!
Hey this is a great video. One thing I noticed is that you had to look behind you a couple of times to check traffic. Try setting your left-right mirrors correctly (aiming wider) - you should never have to turn your head more than 1/4 either direction to see your blind-spot..
HowYer Durrin I can't give you the exact numbers. But it's over 90hp and 100tq total on the dyno numbers APR shows. But no Stage 1 can be done fully stock no additional parts or mods required.
You look like you are enjoying it big time! Congrats! I just installed a cat-back track exhaust from AWE. I also just ordered their catted performance downpipe. Ive been reading that once you have a this turbo back exhaust setup, you should go with stage 2 APR. What do you think?
Oh yeah it is so much fun! Nice purchase!! but yeah to get to full potential out of your exhaust setup stage 2 would be the best thing you would do. It would a very big increase! Only thing you would need to look out for is some clutch slip with the stage 2 ! Also some people have problems with stock spark plugs with going stage too and need performance ones!
Brought back memories of my MKV TSI when I got APR stage I. I drove away from New German Performance in Aberdeen Maryland and was totally blown away with the torque steer. Over the next two years I added the stage II APR tune, BSH CAI and Induktion Motorsports downpipe. The downpipe will give the next best performance gain for the cost as it allows the turbo to spool better and it doesn't have a hard angle for the exhaust exit. So.... in retrospect, I did have the stainless steel braid in the downpipe start to come apart I feel from the motor torque on the mounts. Therefore, one of your first preventive mods would be to upgrade motor mounts. This is very true for a lot of hot hatches like the Focus / Fiesta ST. I never had a clutch problem but did read about it on the forums. Mostly issues like heat saturation and the need for a better intercooler. Forge makes a nice one that is an add on (twintercooler). Last but not least, a high flow cat will still throw a CEL so you will need a spacer which solves the problem perfectly. Now, several cars later, I am thinking of doing it again and there are more tuners out there. APR is wonderful however.
Exactly how I felt when I got my mk6 jetta stage 1 Apr tune. With an intake and catback your golden😁 smiles per gallon
i have a 2015 WRX with a ton of e-tunes. you do make me want a GTI again..
LastHumansGarage I had a 08 WRX last year, blew the motor rebuilt it and it was awesome I loved it. But I ended up getting rid of it for a tdi but now I have the gti and I love this thing so much !
same story TDI for one year and now a GTI its dope
GTI is really a great every day driver... chill before you hit turbo @2800, and then it goes when you want it to. Insides are so efficiently designed that it feels huge for such a small car.
I just got a 2021 GTI with a DSG and even stock I love it. I heard someone else refer to the WRX as having a Horsepower engine where the GTI has a Torque engine. I had a 2015 WRX with a CVT and a 2017 WRX with a standard transmission and I would say that it certainly feels that way to me. The GTI is a lot funner to drive than either of my WRX's were.
After the tune APR states you are supposed to drive 20 miles at only partial throttle before you get on it. I got mine tuned as well. Enjoy!
ravenstylea2 thanks for the info raven! I guess it's kinda to late now :/ but hopefully everything will be fine ! Just rolled over 2400 miles with the tune on ! But grats on the tune! Really makes the car so much better
Where does APR state this?
awesome man just subbed we need more MK7 vloggers keep the videos coming
WHENZLUNCH thanks man!! I'm on vacation now but more videos soon !!
Just got my car tuned today through APR, worth the money and so much faster!
PHILAKILLA2011 oh yeah !!! Such a big difference ! Completely transformed the car
how has the car held up?? assuming you still have it lmao
To Anyone considering doing the APR tune and had a manual transmission: don't waste the $700 unless you have $1200+ already set aside for a performance clutch. I have a 2016 and romped on it constantly after the tune because it's addicting but my clutch started slipping 6500 miles in and by 8k my clutch couldn't hold any of the power. Now I've been driving it detuned for months because I have no business buying a new clutch right now. So if you have the extra money, 100% do it. If not, wait.
I'm currently at 2,400 miles on my car and i haven't felt any slipping. Maybe it's still early but i will be having an update on the tune anyways. but it could also be the way you drive the car. Example: if you don't know how to shift properly(or get lazy often) and u slip the clutch when u shift you will wear out the surface faster and with the higher torque it will start to slip. But i wouldn't really say you shouldn't get the tune with out getting a clutch because i have a lot of friends stage 1 and even stage 2 with stock oem clutch.
just by sound alone I can tell you have the turbo muffler delete kit or a short ram intake or both. That sound is addicting & I can't wait to install mine on my mk6. I'm new to your channel & don't know your mod list yet, but if you don't already have one I advise you to get an oil catch can( preferably with the PVC delete) it's a little costly, but it'll save your intake manifold & prevent you from having to do a manual scrape later on down the line. A upgraded dogbone mount will make your smile even wider too. sorry for the paragraph
Hey thanks a lot for the comment ! Yeah if u check out my other videos i have a mods list in the description! Oil catch can is on my to do list of parts to buy during summer !
I got Stage 1 ECU and TCU and the Intake from APR on my 2016 Golf 7 R im from Vienna we got 100 plus Octane The Difference is Night and Day I choose the R because he got 4 Motion the GTI is a great Car but 4 wheel Drive is for me the better choice how many miles did you drive since the APR Tune and is everything fine ? Greetings from Vienna and enjoy your Car
rainer lindenthal I have 6,000+ miles on the apr Stage 1 and I still love it ! Looking to go Stage 2 here in a few weeks !
Kevin's Garage it's unbelievable what only a Software Stage 1 makes its a different car
3.5 years later - how has the clutch held up?
Jeff Siemens probably in the trash ahahahaaj
Second this, update on clutch?? I want a stage 1 on my 2020 but I'm worried about the clutch lol
I just replayed to a top comment, stock clutch still on at 40,500 miles with some good slip in 3rd and minimal in the rest of the gears, mainly only during full boost do I see it slip, weather and road conditions play a part with it aswell I noticed. Forsure not able to get all the power down anymore for long, so does need a new clutch to bring more of the fun back
@@brennankinder535 when I was stage 1 they had a low output TQ option that maybe would fit you. I didnt notice any slip when I was stage 1 but I cant speak if I stayed stage 1 until now that would be the case, mine did last and still is from about 20k miles to 40,500 now stage 2
Kevin, I have the 2016 GTI S 6 speed manual. On the fence about getting APR 1. Curious how you have to drive the car differently to compensate for the increased power. Have you taken your car on road trips such as extended highway distances and noticed anything that APR 1 makes better. Any input is appreciated.
On the stock "before-n-after" drive your car is making some great turbo noises. What other things have you done to make the turbo chirp and sing? I will be perfectly honest -- I am just getting the car and I'm not really interested in the tune right now but turbo noises are good entertainment.
hey Paul, yeah what really made the turbo free and make alot more noise was my Injen Short air intake and i also have a turbo muffler delete on the car aswell. big difference after thos 2 mods with the turbo noise. Also my BoV spacer is what u hear the most. that gives it the psshhh sound.
So if the dealership is doing the tune does that mean the ecu flash from dealer is warranty friendly ?
At pugi in downers grove, IL they told me it would all be covered besides the turbo. I had to sign a turbo warranty form stating I would cover turbo damage but all other areas were covered. Stage 2 40,500 miles later no major break downs and never has left me stranded! Knock on wood
Hey man loved the video! Just liked and subscribed. I have a question for you and it'd be nice if you could help me out. I just bought a 2017 gti and I saw the comment about how you can get it tuned at a dealership w/o voiding warranty. Is there a way to find out which dealerships are APR certified? Thanks!
That bov sounds amazing
Unfortunately my dealership doesn’t do tunes
Yup a better tire option would sort that great vid! Can't wait to pick mine up
What blow off valve do you have?? Still no clutch slip??
Great video bro. I just bought my GTI S. They did not have any manuals, I like those better myself.
How much was the tune? Do you have a CAI on the GTI?
Thanks bro..
StayCAV yeah i have a injen intake on it, and the stage 1 was 600 i believe and than stage 2 was 179
Sweet, thanks for the prompt response bro. Can i go straight to stage 2? I have no idea how this stuff works..lol. My last ride was a 2007 4runner...
For stage 2 you will need a Downpipe as well, so if u bought a downpipe than yeah u could go straight to stage 2
Hey Kev, does the tune from the dealership void any warranty? Also is your injen intake the evolution kit? If so where'd you order from and what $$? thanks!
At my dealership i was told my stage 1 APR would not void my warranty. Also i got my injen from a website called Autohance for $195. never shopped there until the intake but i couldn't pass up that price. other websites had it for like $260.
how much did you pay for it
Wow that is sweet bro. Btw I just purchased my MK7 GTI S DSG last month. How much did it cost you for that APR stage 1? Thinking about going that route too. Just upgraded my stock filter to a K&n and btw did they give u a free APR stickers for your car just wondering. Thanks for the vid info that thing is a totally different animal now. Enjoy!
Mark Mante I paid 600 for the tune ! But I didn't not get apr stickers actually :( but I'm sure if I would have asked hey would have had some ! Thanks man !
Kevin Krysa so you’re saying that you don’t have to worry about clutch slipping after a stage 1 tune with a dsg?
nah you just gtta tune the TCU as well (Transmission control unit) and it can handle a lot more torque won't have to worry bout clutches even with the stage 2 tune.
Are you still on your stock clutch with this tune?
Yes! Still stock clutch even to this day, 40,500 miles
Kevin Krysa has it given u any problems, slips?
Kevin Krysa that is promising. I was getting ready to ask you the same thing
Yeah so I would say since maybe 30-35k miles it started to slip getting into full boost in 3rd, 4th and so on, so I lost my favorite 3rd gear highway pulls and slips a decent amount. If I wait until I'm at about 4.5k rpms I'm all good to go but still depends on road conditions hills and so on. If I start in 1st (rarley) or 2nd gear I'm good all the way until I get to 4th where I need to let off a bit to prevent me burning it and being stranded. Normal driving is perfectly fine, hopefully this lasts for me to get a new one soon!
Kevin Krysa oh boy that is not promising
A bit off topic, but is your steering wheel stock? Perhaps its the camera angle, but it looks a lot fatter than the wheel on my 2015 GTI Autobahn. Thanks.
Jack Wadle yeah I have the stock steering wheel on it. I think it's just the angle like you said
The noise your bov is making is that normal is it safe for the turbo
@Kevin'sgarage
fernando martinez yes it is normal since I have the bov spacer. But after the Stage 1 the extra boost seems to be giving me compressor surge. So I'm thinking on upgrading mine to let the air out faster.
Kevin's Garage nice let us know when you do
fernando martinez oh I will !! Ordered coilovers, dog bone insert, wheel spacers, boost tap, gauge pod for Black Friday/Cyber Monday just waiting on shipment !
How was your car just stock in the beginning of the video? That turbo blow off is not what I heard at the dealership. Did you have anything prior to the APR tune?
Yeah sorry. I just considered it stock because i only had a muffler/resonator delete which doesn't increase anything but sound, and i also had a Blow off valve spacer that also doesn't do anything performance related just sound.
Kevin's Garage thanks for replying. what you've done sounds real nice if you didn't add any hp prior to the tune. might need to look into that when I get mine.
Yeah some really nice mods like the BoV spacer, Muffler / resonator delete and a turbo muffler delete will really make the car sound very nice.. also just adding a intake also will REALLY make the turbo noise come out with only adding like maybe 8hp and 10tq
Yeah I definitely plan on buying an intake for the car. probably one of the first things I'll do to it. Any recommendations on intake? Also, is see COBB is coming out with an access port for the MK7 would you think of doing that over the APR tune if you didn't already get the APR tune?
I really like the Injen short ram intake i got for my car for 2 reason. 1. the price is very good for the quality of product u get, i paid $195 for mine. 2. the sound from the short ram is the best. Yeah, i did see that about cobb and it would only depend on if it would void my warranty or not. I liked APR because i got it done at the dealership and with this being my first "brand new" car i didn't wanna have the warranty voided 1 month after i got the car. I could see myself for sure getting the cobb later on because i had an access port for my Subaru and i loved having it and switching tunes on the go/logging information.
I want to tune my 2016 GTI but I don't want to void my warranty any time soon. I'm thinking JB1 since it can be removed.
I got my APR stage 1 done at the dealership I bought the car from and as long as you stay stage 1 it doesn't void your warranty! (at least for my dealership)
SWmaster JB1 wont let you the performance ecu tune can give! Try to find a dealer who offers chip tunning.
How's your gti doing now? I'm looking into different tunes atm
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Nice thats crazy I have a 16 gti manual too im also worried as hell about the clutch, by the way how much was your bov it sounds amazing
yeah i was worried but the tune has been on 2,000 miles now and its running just like it did the day i got the tune! and the BoV was like 70 bucks. i only bought a spacer to make it vent out into the air to give it the noise for now.
I just installed mine the other day but it doesnt make the same flutter sound as yours? It makes more of a whooshy sound for me kinda like air breaks on a bus
Mike2469 ok yeah that's how mine was as well and it still sounded great to me. But I think what really put it over the top was after I got the tune the additional boost just made the bov even louder from it needed to vent more air !
You go up through the gears and then slip it into neutral and just coast along. Why ?
Idk habit I guess, I just like to do it if I'm going fast and i dont want to engine brake, i just sit in neutral until my speed is slower then pop it into gear. Saves gas aswell, not that I do it for this reason just the way I drive
I keep hearing a blowoff valve, did you add one?
so is this the base model just turn by the dealership?
Omar Gonzales yeah it's the gti sport, so not really the base model. Has the sport package but other than that yeah just e-tune, intake, bov and a deleted muffler
+Kevin's Garage thanks for the replay. sounds like your having fun with the gut that car is awesome
What BOV would you recommend for a stage 1?
Vw leaves so muchnon the table with the stock tunes its unreal how much more car they could have off the factory floor.
How long does it take? What's the new horsepower?
It took about 1 hour to re flash and according to APR's dyno sheet its about 316hp and 381tq at the crank. and thats only stage 1 tune. With air intake might get about +8hp and +12tq or so on top of that.
Kevin's Garage yea your looking around 280whp on 91 Oct gas for stage 1
yeah im not on 91oct my tune is on 93oct.
You're got a tune at a dearlership? They do that?
Yes i got mine tuned at the dealership. If they are APR certified than yes you can get it tuned at dealership. and no it doesn't void the warranty as long as you stay stage 1.
Kevin's Garage The look on your face says it all!! Two questions: 1) any problems so far? 2) Will most Volkswagen dealerships do the tune? Do you just call them and ask if their certified to do a Stage 1 tune? I'm nervous to call mine and raise red flags that I'm planning to do it?
How do you get the blow off valve to sound like that??
I love the GTI, but are you sure you didn't just pay for a louder speaker sound?
what do u mean by that ? the car is Stage 2 now and has been for awhile. but just stage 1 alone u feel a huge difference in the power and the way its delivered.
Does it void factory warranty?
Did you purchase the car from the same dealer who provided the tune?
Silent yes I did. Same place I bought it from is where I got the tune !
Will a tune void your warranty?
do i need a new intake with the apr stage 1 tune for 2017 gti? and if yes which one?
Dylan Pagan no, u can do apr Stage 1 with no additional mods. The intake I have is Injen and would highly recommend for the price.
Would you suggest getting new wheels? Like wider wheels to handle the extra power? Does it become difficult to drive? You're talking about all of this wheel spin
Nicholas Rappa wider wheels would forsure help. But also some nice summer tires even on stock wheel sizes would work. Right now it's not too bad now that the weather has warmed up.
Kevin's Garage alright, thanks man. I'm having trouble choosing between this and the unitronic
Do stage 1 needs brakes upgrade?
I think you will be ok, mine is the sport model with performance package (slightly bigger brakes than standard package) and never had the feeling I couldn't stop fast enough...yet
Hey Kevin, any clutch slip yet? I know it is early on, but just wondering. I have a 2015 GTI and am still on the fence about the tune. I tuned my 2007 GTI with APR Stage 1 and the clutch was slipping the second I drove out of the shop...then it stopped like a year later lol.
derekjlight no so far I haven't had any clutch slip. Witch I was also concerned about as well. But it's going strong ! When I go Stage 2 the stock clutch probably wont make it lol
Thanks, appreciate it. Did the dealership charge you any labor? I know this is a port flash and takes like 20-30 minutes depending on the car. What would you say is the most noticeable difference from stock?
derekjlight yeah they did charge me 1hr of labor. But I didn't mind since it keeps my warranty. But the most noticeable difference I would say is the increased torque. And the power delivery, the car is much much better with the Stage 1
So you still keep the warranty ? I'm really surprised. And the VW dealership did the tune ? How come ? Did you tell him something special to him ? What about wheels spinning
Yes as long as you don't go stage 2 i can keep the warranty. and thats for the motor mainly. if anything else happens it's still covered. and yeah the VW dealership had all the APR cables and software. I didn't need to say anything special to them. as far as wheel spin it spins 1st, 2nd and part of 3rd but it was still semi cold out when i got the tune so ill need to wait for summer to really see how she runs!
I never understood why people would get this car in a 6-speed manual when Volkswagen makes a half decent dual clutch that you can just get instead.
i just like to drive manual. i feel more connected with the car. thanks for you're input though man appreciate it.
Because its fun and the whole reason you get a sporty car is to have fun in. Really a no brainer
i just recognized your in illinois lol and you went to pugs vw to have that done?
Dominic Washington yeah I went to pugi in downers grove !
do you know what the top speed will go upto once you did the stage 1?
You installed a blow off valve? Why?? You do realize that you lose precious torque from the rest being blown off right?
AllOutNoobHater I haven't noticed a difference honestly. But I don't need anymore torque ! Haha my clutch is started to slip at lower rpms
APR or REVO? st1
Ben I would say APR. but I have also never been in a revo tuned car or dove one !
Only thing with REVO is that there are adjustable map options (for octane and anti theft etc)
Wait, dealership installed the re-flash? What if something happens warranty wise?
kent570253 everything is covered except powertrain !
Hey this is a great video. One thing I noticed is that you had to look behind you a couple of times to check traffic. Try setting your left-right mirrors correctly (aiming wider) - you should never have to turn your head more than 1/4 either direction to see your blind-spot..
how much for this bruh?
The APR stage 1 tune is $699! The most horsepower and torque for your money spent out of anything you can do to this platform.
OH NICE! How much total HP gain from this mod? Also, did you have to change any other parts, i.e., spark plugs?
HowYer Durrin I can't give you the exact numbers. But it's over 90hp and 100tq total on the dyno numbers APR shows. But no Stage 1 can be done fully stock no additional parts or mods required.
You look like you are enjoying it big time! Congrats! I just installed a cat-back track exhaust from AWE. I also just ordered their catted performance downpipe. Ive been reading that once you have a this turbo back exhaust setup, you should go with stage 2 APR. What do you think?
Oh yeah it is so much fun! Nice purchase!! but yeah to get to full potential out of your exhaust setup stage 2 would be the best thing you would do. It would a very big increase! Only thing you would need to look out for is some clutch slip with the stage 2 ! Also some people have problems with stock spark plugs with going stage too and need performance ones!
You should of bought the cable so you could of flashed it yourself
That's unitronics. Apr has to be done at a certified facility.
Stahp with the emmkay. It's "mark" ffs.