Old Psychiatric Interview with Hermaphrodite, Lizzie, from Mississippi
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2020
- The discussion is largely focused on the patient's early life and how it affected their behaviour and current feelings. To day, the term hermaphrodite is still used in biology but not in medicine - intersex is preferred. click CC if you want the transcription. Please let me know if you can make out the missing parts, as the deep southern accent is difficult to understand. (The majority of this video was translated with the help of an American southerner)
At 9:49 "The voice spoke to me and said you got as much right to be in this world as anybody else." That is a very powerful statement.
Absolutely
Amen !
Amen
Yes it is
Extremely! It really hit me!
She was raised in a loving household, it's easy to see by her personality, good people
He’s clearly a guy at this point
@@radioog6945 that's what I saw in this film..a guy.
@@moosehead1183 good for you.
@@radioog6945 according to who??
@@ohgawd he said he goes by male because he looks male now
I'm from Louisiana, I understood "every" word, especially when Lizzy said she has every right to be here as much as anyone else. Heartfelt words from a brave person.
Same
Same
Honestly, I wasn't even certain what language they were speaking and had to put on English subtitles just to follow along _...and I still got no bloody clue as to what they've said_ 😄lol
I can understand them.
Not from Louisiana but i understood every word!!! ❤❤❤ bless the heart of this person im glad they found jesus.
She’s such a likable person. I was thinking the doctor was going to be terrible because of the times, but he wasn’t at all. I’m glad he was so non-judge mental.
Psychology is only judgemental when it comes to diagnosis
His voice alone is judgmental
, he def sitting there judging
@@pallana3701He is not! He never spoke down to Lizzie, he never treated Lizzie less than.
@@rabidpepehe probably called her a savage in his writings. Doctors were still racists back then. Sure he still saw less of her. Some doctors are the same in 2023
@@gurlwhowants2dj He did not seem at all like that.
How hard it must have been for her. How lonely. Yet, still a gentle person.
💯 she's adorable
Yes, very sweet, articulate person. It couldn't have been easy. 🧡🙏
Gentle people are mostly gentle not in spite of their hardship but because of it.
Absolutely it just goes to show u that we never know who will b born w a soulful loving spirit capable of love, compassion, & teaching the rest of us a thing or 2!
Sometimes it doesn't matter your background. A kind soul is a kind soul regardless.
I had a black Hermaphrodite patient in 1984. She was suffering from cancer and dementia. She was very sweet, but it broke my heart that she spent her life as a side show in the circus life. She was in a Ward with 8 patients in a Nashville hospital as they had no insurance. We had to keep an eye on her as she would throw the sheets back exposing her genitalia when visitors would come, shouting” come on over and take a look”. Poor soul had done that her entire life to get by. She had both, but the penis was very small. She answered to she. She was a virgin and never married. She was absolutely precious. I’ll never forget her. So heartbreaking that she never received medical help for her condition.
I took care of a white hermaphrodite in '98. She lived in a state care facility, and she faced hermaphrodism, blindness, and severe elephantitis. Her many leg and foot ulcers suppurated constantly. She, too, had once been a freak show act. It was tragic.
My heart aches for her soul. May she be at peace now
That touched my heart I too have worked in state hospitals with people with many disadvantages
@@davidadams2395 Elephantiasis. -itis is a suffix that means inflammation (of). So Elephantitis would be inflammation of the elephant.
Amazing.
I don't think it's that bad though.
CSA is bad, people pointing and laughing is just education on the nature of man.
@@davidadams2395 but God don't make mistakes they say so how ? N kids born heads together body together conjoined twins it's obvious we been lied too
I’m glad Lizzy was raised with unconditional love. What a beautiful soul. The world need more people like Lizzy
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Surely this world does.🥹
I loved listening to Lizzie talk. I am 50 and originally from Southern Mississippi and I miss hearing people talk like this. She sounds like my grandma.
Same
She was a survivor. She wasn't aware of her own intelligence. She knew how to handle herself very well. Never attracting any attention or causing problems for herself. She would have been nice to know. ❤
So true, the no nonsense, no drama kind..
It was safer for US to be “ stealth “ and quiet , it was also the current practice for US to deny our past
It’s funny what was known as common knowledge and respect os now considered intelligent. Glad I was raised by my grandparents, people today just don’t have common sense.
He's a surviver indeed...
I think so too. My heart 💜 really goes out to her.
I absolutely love Lizzy and her wonderful father. He called her love because for him, that’s all she represented. Love. ❤️
Omg
Lizzy is adorable
So intense. I spent my childhood thinking I was a boy in a girl's body. I was better at sports than the boys who won all the state championships in every sport. Growing up in the 60's, there was nobody to talk to about these things. We just kept it to ourselves - wondering what the hell went wrong that god made me wrong. This poor dear soul. My heart goes out to beloved Lizzie. ❤
Nice doc too, nice dialogue.
You’re still a woman just because you like something other genders like doesn’t mean you’re in the wrong body
I am so impressed by the psychiatrists manner. Not patronising just so even and just lovely to listen to. She/he obviously feels at ease with him
He probably had met and spoken to a lot of intersex people and wasn't fazed at all. Apparently, it's not as rare as we would think
@@44LillPuffin very true. Intersex people make up 2% of the world’s population. It’s the same as red heads
They have low vibrating energy
Professionals being polite and respectful shouldn’t be an anomaly tbh
@@44LillPuffin one percent of the population
My Grandmother had a Hermaphrodite friend when I was growing up. While she presented herself as a woman she was masculine in many ways. She always seemed so sad with her life. As a child I easily accepted her because she was a genuinely sweet person.
It's too bad more people aren't like you. My mom always said "treat people the way you want to be treated" and that stuck with me my whole life and I'm almost 50.
Hermaphrodites come from incest
Your grandma’s friend was going to be a fraternal twin but they became stuck someway
My maternal grandma was a fraternal twin with a male
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 no incest is cause
When Lizzie said God told them, "You got as much right to be here as the next", my heart melted. So precious ❤️
The eunuch of the womb.
❤
It was their mind telling her that. Their brain wanted to stay alive. I'm glad they found comfort in thinking there was a magical being walking through life with them considering how alone they were.
@@tkraftablewow, you must know everything about everything.
Ikr?😢
“Religion and joining a church are completely different “ Lizzie is spitting truths there. God bless you Lizzie. 🙏🏼
That's a very sweet and caring person right there. Doesn't even matter whether they're a boy, girl or both.
you dont have to attend a church to be 'born again' [or be religious] Some folks are bed-bound; John t/Baptist lived in the wilderness/desert
Lizzie is telling the truth.
no they aren't. This is ignorant bull shit made up by somebody looking for a justification for their psychotic religious thinking. ANY religion is just as trash as any church. Saying your own spirituality is different than a garbage church developed personality (which IS what you are saying) makes you ridiculous.
Glad Lizzie found God. 🙏
Wow, can’t read or write but can carry a conversation beautifully, & even if you could not understand everything Lizzie said you sure felt it…. May Lizzie rest peacefully ❤
A lot of people couldn't read or write in those days. It had nothing at all to do with intelligence, but rather a lack of opportunity to get an education.
I understood everything
Just came across this. Shout out the interviewer. He’s really good at letting Lizzie speak and very sympathetic. Lot of talk show Hostesses can learn a lot from this man. Rest well Lizzie 🙏🏾
This was during the time of Jim Crow and blatant racism . Lizzie was nothing but a case study and nothing more.
Well he was a psychiatrist so…
@@kmsleyang8972 ...so it's especially surprising.
He is an excellent interviewer. God bless him. He is kind and comforting.
Lizzy's family was very loving and accepting, the Father promised to care for her as long as he was alive. Beautiful story ❤️
I also liked when the Dr. asked if she was teased and stuff when she was little and she said no. That's wonderful. Either she didn't realize she was being teased or since it was such a small country schoolhouse, they were just too tight knit. But how sad that she's illiterate and didn't at least get an education.
Her father was a much better man than mine; he threw me out when I was just a boy.
@@MrMenefrego1 ❤❤❤😢🙏
@Mr Menefrego1
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. 😢 I can’t imagine how painful that must’ve been.
@@annehersey9895, she dressed and looked like a girl. No one knew her secret!
My oldest was born intersex. It says male on his birth certificate. That is how he identifies. He is now 30 years old. I am extremely proud of him.
How Is it for him? Has he found a love relationship or does he tend to be alone like lizzy here in the interview. Is it hard for your son? Or does he just accept life as far as you know?
@@thornyturtleranch6152 He has no interest in sexual/romantic relationships, but he also has autism...so that is more likely why. He prefers to have friends, but has expressed finding both sexes as beautiful and handsome.
@@mindyutz1176 My husband is autistic and asexual. There seems to be a connection there.
I will never know why he was born intersex, but I did once read a study about how it was more prevalent among nurses, pharmacists, etc. due to handling many meds. I worked in a pharmacy. I handled lots of meds during the first half of my pregnancy. I will always wonder if that is why.
@@mindyutz1176 Someone told me one day that the large amount of intersex children these days in comparison to when we were young (1940s to 1950s) was due to all the hormones that were injected to the animals in those days. In turn we consumed the meat.
I don’t know if this argument has any value but it is worth considering.
50 years ago this condition often went untreated. This was especially so when patients lived in rural areas where there were few doctors and home births were attended by midwives only. It's amazing how well Lizzy developed coping skills and survived.
What exactly is the proposed treatment? It is not our job to choose for a person that may have been born with both genitals.
@@_Ridethemaverickfacts
@@_Ridethemaverickthank you!
@@_Ridethemaverick precisely
Love, there is no treatment. This is how they were born, this is how they were meant to be.
“I spent most of my life alone. If I went somewhere I was alone” That broke my heart
Lizzie plowing a round for her Dad when he went up to the house is one of the sweetest things. God bless.
How can’t you not feel love when you hear this beautiful human being tells the life story? Being called Love defined this person very well. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
As an intersex person myself, Lizzy story is very touching. ♥
Lol lol
@@TheOhMyGoddess i see here we are lol makes sense.
My heart goes out to you so many times biologically intersex people voices are not heard enough. I pray for any biologically intersex person to get all the love and understanding from those around them. ❤
@@kelak316 ❤️
Intersex is a genetic abnormality, you can still only fit in the category of male or female
Lizzie's father's love is everything!
It's nice to see the friendly attitude and understanding of the interviewer. He treated Lizzy with respect.
They're talking "Old School Southern." Personal, personable, and polite.
He's a doctor
@@8rr725if you think being a doctor makes someone automatically respectful and understanding I’m sorry but you’re sadly mistaken
@@8rr725lol, even nowadays being a dr definitely does not mean speaking to everyone with respect. Granted it'd be professional, but definitely isn't a prerequisite to be a Dr.
I suspect he’s a Racist White Supremacist. They can be nice when it calls for it.
I wanna go back in time to hug and help these people
you could hug those going through the same thing today.
@@TuberoseKisser factsss
My heart breaks for him
@@TuberoseKisser exactly.... in 2100 we will see videos about transgender coming back to their original sex
@@oscarmeneurubio3330 they already have those videos.
I really enjoyed watching this interview, which appeared more like a friendly conversation. It appears she was raised in a loving household that was filled with acceptance. Her daddy telling her he would take care of her as long as he lived 🥺💕
You can just tell she has lived a hard life. She deserved much more, especially considering what a kind person she is.
My heart goes out to her. What an amazing person. If we could turn back time...rest in peace Lizzy. ❤
A beautiful soul❤ Amen.
When Lizzy mentioned when they were young and Dad would have to leave the field to run back to the house, she would take over the plow to make a few passes before Dad returned, I felt my tear ducts moisten up. We all have the capacity to to good and bad things, yet she just wanted to take some of the strain off her beloved pops.
My heart breaks for the things Lizzy DIDNT talk about. I cant imagine what dark times she may have gone thru. Alone.
When doc asked if she could read or write, and she answered "no," I sure wish doc would have followed up with "Lizzy, would you like help to learn?"
This is a person who was born different from the norm and accepted life and went on with it props to her.
Excellent synopsis
And never tried to push false narratives to try and convince anyone to do anything they are not comfortable with
@@melissawilliams6324what do you mean by that? what false narratives do you think someone like lizzie would push?
@h.r613 all predators push the gay agenda...only 2 genders...
@@h.r613 Melissa is a religious far right supporter
I am a native Mississippian living in Arizona now. I can help translate most of the missing parts.
3:15 - The last town she refers to is “West Carrollton”
4:35 - She began the sentence by saying “Well there was another one…”
4:53 - She was just stuttering through her words. Didn’t really say anything until she gathered the thought.
4:59 - She said “That’s when I come in there fooling with another one.”
5:10 - “…while she come to be here, head on. Think good.”
6:15 - I couldn’t quite catch that one.
6:30 - “Well that why the call me ‘Love’”
8:36 - “And that’s for me to make you an answer…”
11:00 - “I’ll tell you, what woke up things…”
11:07 - “…so many more…they told me to come back…and you know,so many make…” (she’s basically just stuttering again trying to get the thought out)
11:45 - “Tung Oil Truck”. Tung trees used to be a popular thing to grow in early 20th century Mississippi. The oil is used for coating/protecting wood. Also used in some electronics. Hasn’t been a big crop in Mississippi since probably the 60s or so.
12:00 - “I know that…I say that wouldn’t do…”
12:00 - “cutting paper wood”
12:35 - “I could look and tell a difference, but I didn’t make no difference out of it.” (The word “difference” is used in two different contexts within the same sentence here. “I didn’t make a difference” in that area is a saying something akin to “I didn’t care” or “It wasn’t a big deal to me”).
Some of the grammar and words she is using is very regional and it still may not make sense to you. You have to grow up hearing a lot of the way she uses words being used in other conversations by other people before it will make sense. It may sound like nonsense to people who didn’t grow up hearing it.
Hope this helped some people get a little more context.
Thank you 🙏🏼 from Australia.
12:23 “cutting paper wood”. In Mississippi there are two types of harvested trees, pine for construction and what she calls “paper wood” or otherwise called pulp wood. Pulp wood is used in the manufacture of paper products and was hauled on smaller trucks and is/was an industry of poor people. Pulp wood haulers we’re renown for their strength and calling someone a “pulpwood hauler” usually meant a brawny muscled person in southern speak. In pine forest harvesting they use mainly machinery while there is a lot of manual labor with block and tackle and brute strength in pulpwood hauling.
Thanks very much!!
↑ protect this person at all costs
3:15 She starts by reciting the smaller, nearer places & ends in bigger, far away places; I think it's "Wisconsin", not West Carrollton. I'm a Wisconsinite & have had exposure to folks who've grown up down south; that's about how they say 'Wisconsin'. Recall 'The Great Migration' was still a current phenomenon at the time.
I grew up with a person who was both . Like Lizzy, a girl when young but when puberty hit she became he . Chris was his name . Thank God they let him go thru what his body would go through before doing anything. They moved to a neighboring town when he went from she to he and only those friends like us knew . This type of person are the only ones who legit have a trans issue. He was a great friend . He has passed away from cancer . I miss him ,😪
how do you measure what is legit?
@@hitirussantosa7116 legit not made up in his head but from his body .
@@hitirussantosa7116 Sane or Sanctimonious
They aren't both. They are still male of female they just have ambiguous phenotype.
Did he have a uterus
This is the second time I have watched this video and when I think of the courage it must have taken to live like this and not understand your own body or why you were made this way? When she said she almost took her own life, thank GOD for the voice of Christ telling her, she had as much right to live as everyone else! She had a respect for people, life and family. Stating, when girls spent the night, and they slept in her room and bed with her, she always turned over or avoided anything that would cause trouble or confusion. Bless
Such a sweet soul. Lizzie seems so gentle and precious. The world could use more people with these qualities today.
50 yrs ago, I worked at Eastern State Psychiatric Hospital. In Knoxville Tennessee. For several years I worked on a ward that had a person who had both sexual organs (male and female).She was raised female and that's how she presented herself. The God that I know does not make mistakes. During the last 15 years, I had a beautiful white kitty ,with ice blue eyes. He/she had testicals and a vagina. Renee was the sweetest and most gentle loving soul. I miss him/her so much. God does NOT make mistakes.
There are some beautiful souls born "special" like this.
Maybe they're here to teach us how to open our hearts to the God
in everyone.
@Ship‘s Kat 🏴 God doesn't make mistakes. These ppl have always been among us. Even animals. Modern science has been able to help with hormone therapy. I feel that the individual need to become an adult then decide for themselves if they want to choose one gender over the other. You would be surprised at the huge number of such folks who live amongst us..even family members. Many don't know that they are, female but have testicles that have not decended..for example..Please go and research the subject to get more information...Another thing is we all start out female and when males start to develop is when things can go a different way. Retardation, deformities, etc. usually happen during this time.
@@ShipsKat They live until they know who they are. I taught a child who had both sexual genitalia and the parents chose the surgery for to be a girl. She gets to me in 3rd and it was so obvious that she should have been a male. She cried at recess every day bc the older teachers would not let her play ball. Her mom made her wear all pink every day, w bows, and she still had boy features. It hurt my heart.
What a beautiful human being. Her father must of been a wonderful man. I hope Lizzie found peace. ❤
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
She’s a beautiful, precious person. How hard it must hv been growing up w/ no medical , psychological care, yet at least was brought up in a loving, & caring home.
The LOVE that his father had for him was pure and unconditional 🥹 what a great man he was ♥️♥️♥️🙏🏽🙏🏽
Oh my God, their accents, especially Lizzie's, take me right back to my Georgia childhood in the early 60s. They are just lovely.
My great grandparents and grandparents were farming for their keep ! You know what that means ?
It says in the description that the deep southern accent is hard to understand and that an American Southerner was used to help translate this video. I understood it just fine, of course I live in Mississippi, born and raised, maybe I could get a job as a translator. 😊
@@keithdenton1043 Yes.
@@DonnaChelle1 I too understand every word. I'm from Dublin Ireland and the only accent I can't decipher at all is the Dublin accent strange. I feel so sorry for people who have problems with sexual identity,like Lizzie nobody asks for it, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy,people should try to be more understanding. We are what we are, can't help it
wish you were next to me to translate what Lizzie is saying. I am picking up pieces but those southern way of saying some things (i.e. "i take the notion") i am getting lost. Lol.
What a lonely life Lizzy must have had. I have also heard mysterious messages like Lizzy did that were very timely and important in my life. "You got as much right in this world as anybody else" is so true and so beautiful. We are all being watched over.
That was a heartbreaking
Her message wasn’t quite mysterious- she seemed to know it was Jesus❤
The mysterious voice was The Holy Spirit aka Jesus Christ The Living God aka God Almighty 😊
I too have heard His voice. When you repent and turn your life to Jesus you get to experience a lot more than his voice 😊
This is so heartwarming…she found her peace and love in her way. The doc is very kind and asks good questions.
It was so sad to hear Lizzy say that she spent her life alone. Everyone deserves someone to love them.
I spent 20 years in the American South. Her gentle way of speaking was so pleasant to hear again. I'd have liked to hear more.
I felt the same way. I found the rhythm and cadence of her voice soothing. Reminds me of spending time with my grandparents in the 60’s
@NEKOLE’S PERSPECTIVE I have many fond memories of black people in the South. Warmth and humour and a shared humanity. The white people struck me as rigid, with phoney friendliness, and racism was always just under the surface when not right smack in your face. I hope the imbalance is not so great now.
So touching. Bless your soul, Lizzie. ❤
So nice to say that! Greetings from The South.
@NekoleSaidSo I love the southern accent very much.
How can you not love Lizzy? She doesn’t see herself as a victim. She sees herself as, Loved❤ So do I.
Exactly :) she wasn’t a victim at all, she was a loving, intersex human being who grew up in a confusing situation, but still chose to spread kindness, love, and thoughtfulness every where she went. What more could we ever aspire to ‘be’ or do?
Not sure why you all keep calling Lizzy a she...Lizzy had not chosen a gender. And clearly appears male.
@@So_Cato she has breasts she presents as female hence why everyone called her she and lizzy. She grew up wearing dresses as well.
But she is though whether she sees herself like that or not
@Anthill2308
How have you come to calling her a she when the person had both male and female genitalia and said they didn't know if they were she or he.
Lizzy was a very intelligent person. People will judge someone on how they talk, but how one speaks means little to their intelligence..The Dr. Was so respectful to Lizzy, and shows her the respect as one deserves
So heartbreaking😢 I'm glad our Father talked to her. He doesn't say much to his children but when he does... TRUST ME it's loud and clear!! And we believe him🥰
The Dr made this like a casual conversation. I really enjoyed the way they both interacted. I would like to see more of them both. This is a good lesson on how to listen and how to talk.
Yes. He's so respectful of her situation. Love the deep Southern accents they both have as well.
I was shocked he knew what the mourning bench was, that spoke volumes about him taking time to understand our culture. Doctors today should take a lesson from him. I left a therapist because she didn't understand anything about my culture, and I could tell she wasn't interested in learning. How you going to treat all people if you're not willing to learn how they live, their traditions and practices. He seems like one of the good ones on this interview.
If only people today would just do the same thing with transgender people too. Just sit and talk to them…get to know them before passing judgement ya know? It’s sad to me that some people out there just don’t want to take the time out of their lives to educate themselves a little bit more. People are so confused about this topic or scared of it. Just ask questions then. Open up a dialogue. Allow learning and teaching to happen. I feel it would help so much more and stop some of the hate that’s going around. When this happens the other person becomes more HUMAN to the other than anything else. Idk maybe I’m just a dreamer. 🤷❤
@@ourblazingworld I won’t presume to know where you’re from, but as a white man from Mississippi I’m not surprised he knew such things. Even during the worst times of bad race relations, the races interacted a great deal with each other if for no other reason than they didn’t have any choice because there are so many of both races living here. Even during segregation they were around each other almost every day.
I was surprised by the flawless communication. And the doctor behaved like a man as opposed to a professional.
I'm so glad Lizzie heard God whisper that they have as much right as anybody else, and it gave them comfort
What I love about this interview was that there was nothing off limits for the doctor to ask or say. She answered all his questions matter of fact. She wasn't offended by anything and that's the wonderful thing.
I’m in Mississippi and this was so interesting. I remember my late grandmother talking about hermaphroditism about someone she grew up with. I was so fascinated by it.
Thank you for posting this phenomenal medical session.
May Lizzie Rest in Eternal Peace 🕊️🙏🏾🕊️🙏🏾
Yes. Amen.
Amen❤
Me too! Thank you for posting this. It reflects on you too. Thank you for caring to share with us. Amen and see you there.🙏💌
😊
I wonder if anyone know around what year was this taken and what year did she die
Back in the day before the Internet out in the country if someone didn't want you to know ANYTHING it was so easy..
Total innocence
No, not total innocence. But privacy, yes. Lots of privacy if you wanted it. Today, monitoring our every move has become a near reality. Jesus is coming!! Look Up and get yourself ready.
@Freddy TW -- People have said that for 2,000 years. Was supposed to happen 2,000 years ago, and many, many times since then, and still hasn't.
@@martinfieldhouse5220 : Looking backwards solves nothing. But you can use yesterday to guide you in fixing today.
Very true, there are things that shock me everyday on internet and i go offline like as if it would help. And you can't unsee those things. It messes with my mind.
@@carolinem1800 Yeah,, it's not a healthy place
This video gives me insight into some of the reasons people may be older and isolated without partners or children. As a social worker that has worked with many older women this knowledge could be helpful in being supportive.
What a sweet humble kind soul Lizzy is, and their Dad too for understanding to whatever degree. That’s love.
Had I met Lizzy and after knowing her a while she told me her circumstances I would still think she is a wonderfully pleasant person and a joy to be around. Such a sweet natural spirit.
How lucky you were to have met her! Do you know where Lizet is buried?
the beautiful message is that lizzie knew the lord made her just the way she is ❤️
I wish that was the message we still gave children
@@lyndseyfifield me too. praying for it everyday
The good Lord made gay people and trans people that way too...no mistakes there. No more different than being born right or left handed.
We're the ones to screw it up.
@@GooglePlusPages Gay or Trans is not a Birth Anomalie, it is a mental thought or preference not a physical issue. Please don't confuse the two, ITS COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES
@@mtmc823 We know people who view sexual orientation as a product of biological factors (such as hormones or genetics) are more likely to support sexual minorities and their civil rights, compared to those who view it as a product of social factors or individual choice.
There is substantial evidence of the "The fraternal birth order effect." Results show clear evidence of a fraternal birth order effect on homosexuality. Specifically, men with one older brother are 12% more likely to enter a same-sex union than men with one older sister, and 21% more likely than men with just one younger brother or sister. The birth order and total number of siblings matter too.
This effect has been attributed to a mother’s immune reaction to proteins produced by a male fetus. The proteins enter the mother’s bloodstream and trigger the production of antibodies that influence the sexual development of subsequent children.
You’re so right Lizzie… YOU DO HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN THIS WORLD‼️❤️✋🏾🙏🏽👏🏾
Beautiful soul you are
The missing word is learn, "the rest of them didn't want to learn" when Lizzie is talking about plowing. I'm glad Lizzie's family had love for them, especially their father. I think Lizzie had a hard life, but it was better than it would have been if they weren't surrounded by so much love from their family. That is a lesson for some folks today.
She was a Human Being..enough said..God rest your soul Lizzie
I'm from Mississippi, still live here, this is such a normal way to talk/hear others talk.
Yep
Nyaleans
I grew up in Mississippi. I live in Georgia now. I get so happy when I find someone from Mississippi. Hey girl hey 👋
I live in Florida, and even tho there’s a few words here and there I don’t pick up on, but this sounds comforting. We don’t talk with much an accent here, apart from the handful of definitive words, but the accents here are so comforting.
Born and raised... love how they put question marks on some of Lizzie's part of the dialogue, like it's completely unintelligible, but we understand every word 😂
I love listening to Lizzy talk. The accent, the tone, the rhythm and inflection are so comforting and pleasant to listen to. I want to listen to Lizzy read stories, specifically older southern stories. They are such a pleasant person personality wise as well. Very calm and relaxing. I know it's been mentioned multiple times already but Lizzy stating that God told them they had as much right to live as anyone else is such a beautiful statement and so incredibly true. It makes me a little sad that they are under psychiatric care since it seems the only reason is their physical genetics and not any issue with their mind. Actually Lizzy seems quite confident and comfortable and accepting of themself. There doesn't seem to be any mental health issue, although one interview really isn't enough to make a definite judgment call on their mental state. Based on their statements though, they seem pretty grounded and stable. I understand that this time period, being a hermaphrodite might be tied in with mental health issues, and I'm glad we have a better understanding now of those born intersex. I hope Lizzy got the best that life had to offer them and I hope Lizzy found peace no matter where they ended up.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4! Salvation is as easy as Believing!!! Jesus came, died, was buried and rose again on the 3rd day for you!!!! He loved you so much that He died for you!!
Jus needs bounce ball captioning
I'm not American so I find the way they speak hard to understand but so beautiful. Very soft and musical.
I really enjoy this doctor. He always treats those he interviews with dignity and kindness. It’s just like they are having a casual conversation. She’s so gentle and matter of fact. A very intelligent interview this was I’m lucky to have seen it
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I adore Lizzy,she is truly genuine. I am so happy she heard the voice of our Lord tell her that she has just as much right as anyone else to be living on earth.He loves all his children,Lizzy included.
"You got as much right in this world as anybody else".
Beautiful...and OH SO TRUE!
@@StrawberryFields4ever65 Definitely! It really resonated with me, and I'm sure with a lot of people here...
A good wknd to you!
@@StrawberryFields4ever65 the world owes you a living
This video had to have been filmed sometime in the late 1950's or 1960's; as color television was prominent in the late 60's and 70's. Lizzie looks to be in her 50's; meaning she had to have been born around 1920 something or even earlier depending on her age in this video. It was very hard times during the 1930's as most likely she lived out the great depression years. Since she greatly helped her family in the field; I doubt very seriously if her being inter sex was ever an issue. The fact is; she helped her family during hard, gruesome times; and when everyone else left home, she remained. Her dad really appreciated her presence and her help throughout the years.
I also feel had she been in today's society, she would live as a man.
Poor lizzy .
This is so touching. Melts my heart. What a beautiful soul. Hope her descendants know what a special person she was.
I really appreciate the way this doctor treated Lizzy. He was kind and she needed that. I can't imagine how hard life must have been for Lizzie and those like Lizzy. I pray for them all. So glad she got to know Jesus. I hope she lived a long happy, healthy life after this. Sounds like she had a wonderful father. My father wouldn't have known how to treat me if that had happened to me.
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That doctor was awesome. If every doctor in any field could treat their patients with the same level of empathy, the recovery rate for any affliction would be so much higher and even those patients that couldn't be cured would feel supported.
@@rosegoodling33 Why the hell are you laughing?
Kind??? He sounds very aggressive and degrading. That was during the time of intense racism and Jim Crow
@@TexasNinjaReturns becuz any black person today can see he is racist. Lizzie is a case study to him nothing more. This was during the time of jim crow and blatant racism against blacks.
I wish people had this much understanding in their hearts and minds these days that these two had way back then.....I haven't heard two educated people have such a meaningful conversation as this in years.
It's because politics has wormed it's way into every nook and cranny of culture. People can no longer agree to disagree without hostility.😥
They seem to both be baptists.
I usually don't comment much, but I have to say that Lizzy sure seemed to be a very kind hearted precious soul. I could honestly say that I could sit and listen to her talk for hours and hours on end if i had the chance. Rest in peace Lizzy.
Lizzie is an easy person to talk to, with amazing captivating stories. I could listen to more interviews with her.
RIP!
This is sad to hear her and yet she was accepting of how God made her. Bless her and may she forever rest in the loving arms of our Lord. 🙏
This is extremely sad. I hope this person found some sort of peace. What a hard life to live, and I only heard the tiniest part.
How can you say sad? The person clearly stated that they did have peace.
@@ASmith-jn7kf you should listen again maybe lol
The story seems very happy to me.
Had you listened to the whole video you would have seen the Beauty and Grace in Lizzy. She IS Love.
Lizzie is an amazing, inspirational human. And the interviewer is caring and attentive in his questions as well. Very respective of the story being told.
Seems to be a very kind person. That's the kind of people I want in my life, kind- hearted
Such a kind hearted human being. I am glad the Dr was nice to Lizzie.
This is the way all people should be.treated with respect and understanding.
@@mariannemarek6683 🙌 yes
Her father 💓💓💓 what compassion in a time of much ignorance @13:33
So glad to see lizzie treated with respect and compassion by the dr. They are usually so cold in these old interviews.
Such a challenging life, but such a beautiful soul!!! Lessons to be learnt here. Just want to give this dear person a huge hug.
Such a sweet sweet human... Wish things had been easier back then.... Bless Lizzy
She seems to have just felt awkward and alone, but not persecuted or bullied.
@@MsMollah Oohh ... that won't be a popular comment these days. I agree but the masses will not.
Thank you to whomever posted this absolutely amazing medical session. May Lizzy be with their family resting in peace 🕊️❤
Wish this could be brought into the media and educate our generation.
What an incredible human being! Rest in Peace, Lizzy!
So many wise words coming from Lizzie. This has really touched me.
What a beautiful eloquent soul
I AGREE
I wish more people would watch interviews like this and try to have compassion instead of hate for these folks. It was heartbreaking to hear of the loneliness and isolation along with never learning to read or write with only a grade or two of school .
Who has hate for "these folks"? You are imagining things.
What a sweet, gentle soul! Nature is not perfect! May God bless her.
What a sweet person. This interview made my day.
In 1973 I was 11. Lizzie was working with a traveling carnival.
By that time she was quite thin.
They let me in to see her. (Yep, I was an 11 year old girl).
Lizzie told me her life story and offer to pull back her scarf, (over her genitalia) if I wanted to see. I declined, and she didn't push. I asked her a lot of questions about herself and her feelings.
When I left, I felt so sad. Lizzie was indeed a woman. And she had the sweetest most comforting voice and spirit. I never forgot meeting her.
Wow she seems like a gift to all beings ❤
You as an 11 year old, showed Lizzie more civility, kindness and respect that day, than a lot of adults did. It would've been an honor to meet Lizzie. Yet, she was worthy of so much more, than having to work as a side-show curiosity in a traveling carnival. ❤️
Your story doesn't make any sense.
Pull back her scarf ? On her face ?
What carnival? What city ?
Show us proof or stop exaggerating.
@@nicolelillis2077 absolutely. She deserved all the respect and kindness I could give her.
“They” let you in to see her? See what? People wear scarfs on their heads. The person in this video never spoke anything about being in a carnival.
I don’t understand your comment
Love the calling it courting, and the level of respect, and kindness in the way of there tone of voice. Today we lost this level of respect when talking. This person was raised very respectful
My heart goes out to this person situation
I love how the doctor made Lizzie feel so comfortable to open up to him.
There are people like this still around, and some that think they are and are not..... There are many ways that some of us are sort of a bit of both, stuck in the middle. It's not an easy way to be... Makes a big difference to accept it deep down and live with it.
What an incredible person - Lizzie overcame so much.
they said "i have every right to be here as any other person". WHEW. thank you lizzy for sharing your story and for those words, they'll carry many of us on our own journeys in this world.
Thank goodness people today can be themselves. We all have known people like Lizzie along the way. Her honestly and strength really shine through. Back then, these people were teased and set aside. Lizzie is wise, very wise. I am unmarried live alone most of my life...its no big deal. Look at all the marriages that fail. It's just life.
God bless Lizzy. What a difficult life.
She was accepted for who she was and that is precious especially back in those days when people were more ignorant of such matters. It sounds like Lizzie was surrounded by love - such a shame that she has experienced so much loneliness😢she kept to herself which was a way of self protection bless her.❤
What a kind spirited soul 😊 The doctor treated them with such respect
I was so glad to come across this medical video. I’m elderly now,..but when I was in middle school, there was an intersex person who I became friends with. I was her only friend in fact. I didn’t know about this kind of thing back until my friend told me. His/her name was Nelody. The parents were advised by doctors to wait and see how or which way the child’s hormones would lead to as far as sexual preference as an adult. Nelody was definitely already leaning towards the male preference and was binding his/her growing breasts, plus dressed in male style clothes. We parted after middle school, but I wish I could have stayed a friend for life. Education is key to understanding this particular medical situation. Back in my youth, you didn’t hear any talk about this,..not in school nor in most families,..at least not in my family. I never told my parents or siblings because they probably would have laughed at me for saying such a thing. I became a nurse as an adult and wanted to be as educated as possible about the human body, so that I could explain and talk to my own children about this particular situation plus a lot of other things in life. Do you know that there are still people who don’t believe this is real? Some still believe that sexual preference is a choice, but that’s not true. It’s our hormonal system as we form in our mother’s womb that dictates this. Some (mostly religious people) still believe that this is a sin and anyone who is born gay or lesbian are going to hell. It’s so unbelievable in these days and times that this is still not understood. Education and Communication about this and all subjects about life are very important and I truly believe is the key to a better future for all in this world. God Bless. “Acceptance and Love” is what we all long for and need.❤️
Totally agree. I'm a retired nurse and it's sad when you try to talk to people about these kinds of issues thar happen with people, and they still have a Totally distorted understanding or heart to understand or relate to.
I am a retired (after working 50 years) RN also. I’m concerned about all the apparent hatred for people with gender or sexual differences. Transgendered people are a current targeted group. It must be so hard to know you are a male but your body is female. Let these people do what they need to in order to make their life livable. Let’s be supportive and accepting…put away your hate and educate yourself. Better yet, get to know someone…you’ll see they are people too. 🤝
I am amazed that they were allowed to choose for themselves. Even when I was young, it was most common that the child would be forced into one role or the other, usually the parents were told to choose, like the child would never know the difference and fit into the mold of the chosen gender. They were given surgery to match what the parents chose. I hope that Nelody was happy in their life.
I have never known anyone like this however I know it happens. As a young woman I attended the fair and there was an exhibit like that. The person was dressed as a female and showed us her gentalis. The penis seemed to be small and although I did not see it up close it looked mostly like just a deformed part. They certainly have my sympathy but I believe that most of these transgenders now that are causing such a turmoil have mental issues that could be resolved with time and especially young children. This is an antrosity to our medical profession and often a crime committed on a young body.
To Janet Spell: Read my post. Religious people are just religious and know nothing of the Word of God. However, I consider myself "Born Again" and a Christian. The Holy Spirit guides my life and I am to judge sin and not the person. If one does not believe in God, that is there is their right.
The doctor is very compassionate.
This is rich historic beautiful human connection. However whoever please keep these old videos circulating. Ty 🙏❤️
The interviewer asked probing questions with respect.Lizzie seems to be an extremely grounded person .Growing up with love and respect from his parents played an enormous role in his life's journey to self knowledge.Lizzie seems humble and sweet.
This condition is not as rare as you might think. I once worked for the Children's Hospital in Philadelphia and remember many cases like this. That was in the late 50's, early 60's. At that time they were trying to decide for the child which sex predominated and doing surgery to make them that sex. That was not a good idea and wrong choices were made. I'm sure there are just as many or more cases today. You just might know someone like this.
I do know someone with this condition. He was chosen to be a man and has no regrets.
@@valiakloeppel7252 That's great. When the decision is made in a child, sometimes it's wrong. Sometimes is right. Your friend is lucky.
It's gender reassignment surgery on a baby. If that were done to a baby who wasn't intersex absolutely noone would think that that was even remotely ok.
Very true.
@@jjbud3124 Children's Hospital in Philly now known for years as CHOP is one of the hospitals doing gender reassignment surgery on young people today. You go way back J JBud. I remember getting the polio vaccine in a sugar cube form. Bless Lizzie. Never learned to read or write, but laying down more knowledge than most people on this planet. Human kindness wins every time.