Perfectly said. Very difficult for parents, siblings, friends . . . and on and on, in 2023. There is very little actual help vs. constant arrests for "apparent" DUI or "under the influence of drug a.b.c '"possible" drugs that the drug tests can't detect yet. No alcohol, no drugs , just strange behavior. Then dozens of required court days for months and months and months, jail nights, bail bonds. On and on. . . .2023
@@lolah3838: This was before he was medicated. There is a follow-up when he was a few years’ older sporting long hair and a goatee. He speaks properly in the later video. Also from the same people who released this film.
The absolute utter hell that plagues an otherwise bright young beautiful mind forever tormented in ways the rest of us shudder to imagine. Heartbreaking. I hope he found peace somehow in his life. His family who loved him too. Imagine this happening to one of your own children. I cannot imagine the pain.
He is profoundly disturbed with gestures and aimless movements that indicate a disconnection from reality and his environment. A very sick young man who hopefully was able to make progress in his recovery. Even watching him makes me anxious. Poor lad.
@DJ KarameloKaramelo KarameloKaramelo Pray, where do I assert anything regarding the nature, content or frequency of any thoughts that the patient may be experiencing?
He appears to be so helpless and vulnerable....and to me his constant movements look like kind of a self-suiting OCD.....a helpless try to calm himself down....he seems to be very traumatized and constantly dissociated.....poor little soul....💔
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 I don't believe that diminishes his suffering. I've been in a state of catatonia less severe than this. There were periods of lucidity when I knew how bad it was, and those were the worst. If this guy retained enough cognitive functions to answer questions or try to listen, chances are he's still at least partially aware of what's happening.
My nephew is 43, born Christmas Day. Very sad to watch, 42 years of Cerebral Palsy with Schizophrenia and Craniosynostosis. We talk very often and see him seldom. My sister has not institutionalized him, oh what a fight it has been, but he is, when well enough, TRUE LOVE. My hero. Surviving all that adversity from birth.
For everyone who thinks he was doomed to live a terrible existence, he turned out fine in a follow-up video about him. His recovery is nothing short of a miracle and the solution was something as mundane as a benzo (for his obvious anxiety), other antipsychotics and therapy. I would never have thought he could function outside a mental institution based on this video.
Benzos do the trick well. Ezpz no bad side effects either. SSRIs are dangerous to people who already have obvious mental imbalances. Your brain makes 4 chemicals for feeling on a daily basis. Taking SSRIs is basically like taking down all 4 pillars to rebuild the one you had an imbalance with then your stuck with more problems because they messed with the rest of your head instead of fixing the one issue. Drs today need to get better at their jobs and prescribing medications and quit being so terrified for their own asses ! They swore an oath to help people like this and I said it myself guarantee 20-30mgs of valium a day and he absolutely would NOT be acting like this. Give him SSRIs he either won't change or hel get worse. Due to the imbalancing of the 4 pillars of happy and chill out chemicals our brains produce. Chop down the dopamine serotonin oxytocin and GABA ALL 4 get haywired to fix the 1 GABA (the relaxy chemical) Whereas if they just get a benzo it's directly going to aid them by not messing with every single chemical in their head.. and just calming them down. Slowly bring them back. Takes time and care.. SSRIs are terrible. Anti psychotics are terrible. They've done nothing but destroy the mind of my old mother. I've been on benzos for 15 years and haven't had any of that manic depressive psychotic crap happen to me. Quite the opposite And I have indeed suffered psychosis at least once from sleep deprivation. They gave me an SSRI made me start tripping balls then they said oh shit oops and gave me Seroquel then I was unconscious for 3 days out cold then they said okay here just have a valium.. and poof. Issues. Gone. Just put me through the ringer with the off label medications they do that to friggin everyone and recommendations for psychs like..it's not for everyone.. all subjective pseudoscience crap. Give us more valium!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly to most people these treatments are not mundane at all. People do not realise how powerful they are for those who really need them. I hope we get to a place in our society where doing talk therapy become as normal as going to the GP.
Psychiatric treatment is the real torture. This poor guy is suffering from akathisia a drug induced movement disorder. Probably forcibly drugged and shocked.
No, it can't be akathisia because antipsychotics are contraindicated for catatonia. That's been well known since the 1960's. When schizophrenics become catatonic, their antipsychotics must be stopped as soon as possible. What you are seeing here is excited catatonia.
very glad this clip came withs subtitles. alot of clips put up on youtube from non english speaking countries do not include subtitles which is frustrating because i only speak english and spanish. this one had subtitles which is great. very interesting vid.
That is partially me whenever I'm seeing faded black visuals during the night 'cos I'm alone, paranoid, and overthinking. What works best for me is to get ample amount of sleep, eat well, and meditation. It's chronic whenever I'm tired that's why I tend not to break myself. The interesting here is the voices could speak intelligent things, yet sometimes violent. Though my last worse episode was already years ago when my mental health was close to a breaking point. Presently I'm grateful that I'm recovering.
I used to go on meth binges in my early 20s and would enter a stimulant induced psychosis like this after about 3 days, sometimes less. Bizarre headspace to be in.
The development of a human mind is so complicated and the onset of puberty brings in that flood of hormones, the crucial make or break for the organism. Poor kid, he needs amine channel maintenance compounds.
Looking at these patients and hearing the kind voice of the sphycatrist, you can see that in some of the old interview,s the patients seem fine!, are asked did they have their dinner yet? and did they enjoy it? and do they like staying in the hospital?, and do they get treated well? and they always give a positive feed back, I mean, in the interviews i have watched?, the patients seem quiet content to me! This guy looks healthy and well taken care off! These patients had beautiful gardens to walk around in , with seats to sit on and to relax and breath in the fresh air! I'm sure it was,nt ALL DOOM AND GLOOM! But I am aware though that there were hundreds of patients and it got Soo over crowded and over whelming for the staff and nurses, that they had to shut it down! Also it was starting to cost too much and the government just couldn't afford to run it! Think of the cost of ALL THE FOOD, on a daily basis and the staff,s wages And the electric bills , and all the exstra essentials that they needed such as cleaning products, clothes, toiletries ,garden maintanance, etc, etc,. Of course there may have been rumours ??🤔🙄 of abuse, but even so , I'm sure it was minimum, probably more so neglect , because of the shortage of staff, they were over run with patients and were exhausted! This I blame on the government and governor of the state or county at the time, . But I'm sure there were ALOT of good doctors/nurses/ sphycatrist,s who dedicated their lives to this strange envoirement, and I'm sure they loved their patient,s and only wanted the best for them! People only ever show the dark side of a of mental hospital and paint it to be all doom and gloom,, but in alot of cases the hospital was the best place for them! Because alot of these patients would have come from abusive and voilent homes with parents who didn't give a F**k about them! Just my opinion🤗
So if I understand the description, this boy has been diagnosed since he was two years old? With schizophrenia? Back then wasn’t it called autism? Today if schizophrenia can be detected at such a young age, it would be very rare. I may have misunderstood the written description. Anyway, my son has schizophrenia and his illness took the normal route of between 17 and 25 generally age wise. He was diagnosed at age 25. It’s a terrible disease. I feel so bad for this young man here and wonder where he is today and how he is.
It says he's had schizophrenia for 2 years since he was 12. Given his early age at the onset and the severity of his symptoms I fear things would not have worked out too well for this poor chap.
Hi Jean, you mind if I ask you a question? did your son when he was a child present with the typical autistic traits? how do you know when it goes from negative symptoms to diagnosable schizophrenia? and were there any blood relatives that you are aware of that were afflicted with this as well? Trying to do a little research for a case Im working on, most obliged. Additonally, I wish you well with your son
@@kggr8458 Thank you so much for your interest. My son did not show any autistic symptoms. His first cousin, six weeks older, though, was diagnosed with autism at about two years old. My son was diagnosed in third grade with ADHD (inattentive type) and also generalized anxiety. There is a history of schizophrenia in particular in my family, my own first cousin has schizophrenia. My mother’s first cousin also. There are two others as well, all on my mother’s side. My son started to have problems in high school but we were not aware of severe mental illness in a way that may have alerted us of what might really have been going on because those symptoms are usually attributed to normal teen behavior. He had his big breakdown in 2013 when he was 25. Unfortunately, this first dramatic break from reality happens after the person has already been dealing with something but nobody knows what’s actually happening, and too often our beloveds are taken away by law enforcement. My son was lucky in that the police recognized mental illness (by this time we knew something was dreadfully wrong). They very kindly got the information they needed to call his father instead of hauling him away, which is a tragic outcome far too often. I always say, “my son is not a criminal! He’s sick.” I don’t mind answering more questions, but of course, remember that schizophrenia is so variable, with symptoms and treatments that are not the same as everyone else who has this illness. I can speak to our experience.
@Jean. I have no experience of schizophrenia so forgive if I'm wrong but this looks like autism to me and back then they were calling it childhood schizophrenia. Now from what I know into my research into autism as a suspected aspie, they later learnt more and autism became autism and was recognised that autism was wrongly diagnosed as schizophrenia as they knew nothing else back then. But this does look like a lot of quite severe autistic people I've met and come across on the vast array of content from autistic individuals
About half of homeless transients that you'll see in Los Angeles act just like this. But people assume it is automatically the result of illegal drug consumption. Could be both. But mental illness is definitely present.
My brother in law has what used to be called hebephrenic schizophrenia (now called schizophrenic spectrum disorder I believe) and it's hard to see. For him, it really was a roll of the dice genetically because he is the only one in his lineage who developed schizophrenia. He's a lot like this guy except slower with his motions and he has very specific tics. He does an aggressive pinching movement repeatedly and makes gutteral sounds in between his nonsensical speech. The speech is rarely relevant to the conversation and he is prone to say "silly" things. It's such a severe condition. 😞
@Sundae Driver I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. Unfortunately he's my husband's older brother and is unable to care for himself. I don't know that he'd legally be allowed to marry, as he is profoundly disabled enough to still be under his parents' care. They're getting older now (and he's about 40) so I worry about what will happen when they become too old to care for him. They do so many things for him including assisting with the most basic hygiene. He's very tall and wide and historically has had some issues controlling his aggression when he's getting too tired or hungry, so I worry that if we were to take him in, he would hurt my daughter. I don't say that lightly, he has just misunderstood her as being a threat to his mother's safety before and pushed her to the ground (she was two at the time, so naturally this scared her AND me). The biggest issue is that if he becomes aggressive, which arguably is not very common given the good care he's given, his father is large enough to physically restrain him, but my husband and I are not. I really hate to speak about it like this because it's a terribly sad condition and I mean absolutely no harm, but I'm not sure I have it in me to care for him in his older years. I have no idea what we're going to do when his parents get too old. This condition is extremely challenging and he went untreated for long enough in his youth (adolescence to young adulthood) that he never became functional enough to do some of the most basic things. With earlier intervention, people have much better odds at being able to care for themselves on some level, but the series of events that occurred ended up with him being misdiagnosed as severely autistic. ☹️ I wish I could say that he was willing and able to have a spouse, but he functions roughly on the level of a five year old. I'm not sure how mild this condition can be, since he's the only person I've known that has really severe schizophrenia, so I would be interested in finding out if any patients with this type can be functional enough to have legal control over their lives. I wish it had worked out better for him and I hope that the money his grandparents put into a trust for him leads to him getting some kind of treatment that helps in any way. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! If you have any further questions about his condition, I will answer them to the best of my ability. I lived with my husband and his parents for about five years, so I've spent a lot of time around him.
Christina,,the thing that happened with your daugther,,he didnt see her as a threat to his mother,,he was jealous,,cause on his mind he s like a kid,,and probably when the time comes that his parents cant take care of him any more,,hes gonna need to be on some kind of hospital where they can take care of him,,and thats what you can start doing looking for a good place for him..cause theres no way your gonna take him to your place,,cause hes been living at his parents home all his life,,so taking him out of his comfort zone is not a good idea,,i know it sounds hard to think about placing him in a hospital,,but thats why u need to find a good place and always check on him,,
My grandfather has schizophrenia. He’s always talking with his eyes closed while pulling on his shirt and dusting off his pants. He screams all night. Yelling “get out!” In Spanish. Or “don’t touch me!” He lives with me in his own room behind the house, all night we hear loud banging noises accompanied with his screams.
I hope you are able to get him to see a doctor. Meds should help with that tremendously. And if that's not affordable I am so sorry. That must be a nightmare to endure for both parties.
People always talks about treatment and medications, but never speak about the spiritual implications about this. Theres a sipiritual realm that affects the humans. The so called hallucinations are real before their eyes, it happens when the doors of the spiritual world are open. There, people see all kinds of unclean and bad spirits that brings torment on those who are victims of this. Only the blood of Jesus and his power can close those doors.
@@lianrey12 people like you do no good… such a disgusting comment. stop bringing your beliefs into serious situations like mental illness. you are not helping
Some of those smiles like at 4:01 are actually grimaces caused by involuntary muscle contractions. The smiles where the lips are pulled back and the gums are showing are the grimaces. Also, he's displaying a bit of inappropriate affect. Both are part of catatonia.
I think we all have the ability to be selfish and only think of ourselves when someone close to us has needed us to listen to them. Nothing more, no special instructions, no special advice, just to listen.
I feel it was wrong that the interviewer did not let him go to to his room, when the young man first asked. There are many good meds for mental disorders now, thank God. This video is so sad in many ways.
If the onset of puberty related to hormones is what triggers something like this, can hormonal adjustment or stopping hormones help? Is it too late once puberty has begun? I've no medical knowledge whatsoever. Just curious why it couldn't be a possibility.
You mean small doses of pubery blocker....? And it depends what hormones are blocked and what hormones to what neurotransmitter pathways. It's not a one-to-one effect. Multiple pathways, multiple effects. With a hormonal disorder (connected to a genetic d/o or not) the aim of treatment is to boost a particular hormone (unless aggression is needing amelioration or taking steroids in a competition although it seems this won't be an issue anymore if the swimming thing is applied to all sports). A lack of hormones could causes the broad autism phenotype and schizophrenia spectrum with low likelihood but more often causes psychosocial issues, muscle issues and other endocrine issues.
Ive been watching these vids for days. I have a situation that has progressed over the last month with a stranger that walks past my house multiple times daily. Ill see him around noon then again around 4-5 pm or 8-8:30 pm. Im rural so hes walking more than 5 miles thruout the day. Ive observed him standing in one place for hours at a time. No matter the weather. Sometimes he looks at his finger tips, readjust his backpack, stands. He had a dog with him for a time, dog had a vest (well taken care of) and would carry his dogs bed and would make him lay until he was ready to walk again. Ive witnessed two heated exchanges with someone who seems to know him. He is hostile to them. Id say his age is anywhere from older teen to early 20's. Im rural so his daily walking is extensive. I had an animal outdoors i was directing back to their area and when i talked out loud to them, it got his attention. He stopped walking, turned around and stood for 2 hrs. Staring at my house. I could see he was agitated, he paced a few times, and stood staring at my house. Before he left, he said you have a problem im looking at your goats? Well maybe you wont have them anymore! Weeks later, i found fir branches cut and broken from a tree at the edge of my driveway by the street. There was a pile of them, apparently he had stood in one spot, breaking them and cutting them and dropping on the ground. I noticed two days ago, my front gate had been unchained, the chain i never use was wrapped twice around the edge of gate as if someone had opened gate but wasnt sure what to do with the chain. Ive observed him standing in the middle of the lane of the street after dark, just standing, at the intersection near my street. There have been times recently, when driving he has "noticed" me. From his behavior I'd think maybe he suffers from schizophrenia. He no longer has his dog, sad. So here I am, researching to see maybe where his head is at. Incredibly tragic and at the same time, I'm feeling quite uneasy with his apparent focus on me. Curious what anyone may think of this.
It's difficult to know if he's schizophrenic or suffering from some other mental illness or organic brain disease. He could mistakenly see you as a threat. As you probably know, schizophrenics have difficulty interpreting people's facial expressions, emotions and intentions. It's worrisome that he seems to be on his own. This person he argued with, did they seem to be family? He could be avoiding going home because they want him to take his medication or go to the hospital. If he continues to concern you, you can call the police for a wellness check. They are probably already familiar with him. Do you have neighbors you can ask about him?
It is sad that so many brilliant minds suffer w mental illness of some kind. Many abuse drugs to get out of the torment... if only for a little while.😥😥
Life is a test, and God who created this life to see who can be patient with his orders, even if you have cancer or car accident or you can't even move from your bed but you have to thank god because he chose this for you to give you a special thing at the end of this life, he chose this for you because maybe you will do something bad for yourself that you will regret it after and you will hate yourself... Open your mind Violee 🖤
The fifth estate needs to continue their investigations into mental institutions to see if folks are being tested with research drugs or hhmm new drugs with high rebates.
No, this is excited catatonia. Akinesia is a side effect of antipsychotics which are contraindicated for catatonia. Akinesia PRESENTS like excited catatonia, but there are important differences. This patient checks all the boxes for excited catatonia. He's probably taking benzodiazepines and if he didn't improve would be a candidate for ECT, though his young age could be a problem.
Most of his strange actions look like a result of largactyl (chlorpromazine) medication predominantly to me at least (who has had innumerate types of mental health medications).
He went to school with my mother, but he was often hospitalized because he was catatonic/psychotic. One major consequence of the catatonia was that he couldn't eat, and his physical health deteriorated. Eventually, he contracted viral pneumonia during a prolonged hospital stay. He's buried in the cemetery near my grandparent's house. I believe he was 21 when he died in 1974. My mom said the day of his funeral there wasn't a dry eye in the village. He really tried hard to fight the schizophrenia, but his medication would only work for a few months, then another crisis, and back to the hospital. He was an intelligent, sweet person from a good family, and he deserved so much more than life gave him, but he's at peace now. 🌹 🕊
Schizophrenia is every impulse, thought and subconscious reality has a voice and they all talk to you at once and you hear them clearly outside of you.
Yes we do - there are many excellent medications now that can help people lead much better lives - many can have jobs, relationships etc. Having a good diet, exercise etc and not too much stress also helps.
![Symptoms in Schizophrenia [Silent] (Pennsylvania State College, 1938)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bBxjbi05YPA/mqdefault.jpg)
He needed attention and that's why he thanked the doctor for talking to him.All mental Health patients need love,care and understanding.
Thanks friends for liking my thinking.
Perfectly said. Very difficult for parents, siblings, friends . . . and on and on, in 2023. There is very little actual help vs. constant arrests for "apparent" DUI or "under the influence of drug a.b.c '"possible" drugs that the drug tests can't detect yet. No alcohol, no drugs , just strange behavior. Then dozens of required court days for months and months and months, jail nights, bail bonds. On and on. . . .2023
Absolutely! Maybe even more. ❤
Bullshit. We need some cash 🤑
They need less drugs!. most his problems could well be from the hard drugs the legal drug pushers pumped into him.
Poor kid. He was very polite and good natured. In many ways, he was a typical goofy teen!
It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
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Absolutely heartbreaking. I hope he found peace of mind.
Do you realize this one is from the 60s?
yes so sad .. so what if from the 60s .. he'd be in his seventies now .. either way .. yes Peace to him indeed ❤
That poor young man. Completely tormented. He'd be about 67 today, I guess. I wonder how things turned out for him. I hope he recovered. God love him.
@NIKUNJ SHARMA I don't know about him. Just what I see.
@@czlucar So do you think his movements are a side effect of medication?
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Unfortunately hebephrenic schizophrenia has a very bad prognosis. And with treatment available at that time I'd say there's 0 chance he got better.
@@lolah3838: This was before he was medicated. There is a follow-up when he was a few years’ older sporting long hair and a goatee. He speaks properly in the later video. Also from the same people who released this film.
He looks so exhausted from his suffering but still smiling & polite. Can see the pain in his eyes.. just want to reach in and hug him.
same...
I cant imagine how many things he is seeing and how many thoughts are going through his mind
of course not -_-
@@villebooks so you're blaming her for being compassionate? Gtfo
@@TrielaRhyfel where is the blame that they are supposedly placing? the world will be better off when you're gone.
@@gclintonpfunk2806 so wholesome, thanks.
He might not be seeing anything. Catatonia doesn't always involve hallucinations.
The absolute utter hell that plagues an otherwise bright young beautiful mind forever tormented in ways the rest of us shudder to imagine. Heartbreaking. I hope he found peace somehow in his life. His family who loved him too. Imagine this happening to one of your own children. I cannot imagine the pain.
He is profoundly disturbed with gestures and aimless movements that indicate a disconnection from reality and his environment. A very sick young man who hopefully was able to make progress in his recovery. Even watching him makes me anxious. Poor lad.
@DJ KarameloKaramelo KarameloKaramelo Pray, where do I assert anything regarding the nature, content or frequency of any thoughts that the patient may be experiencing?
@DJ KarameloKaramelo KarameloKaramelo You're fine, and your point is enlightening!
Akathisia is drug induced movements. He was probably forcibly drugged against he's will.
He appears to be so helpless and vulnerable....and to me his constant movements look like kind of a self-suiting OCD.....a helpless try to calm himself down....he seems to be very traumatized and constantly dissociated.....poor little soul....💔
Poor guy drugged out of his mind. Akathisia is a drug induced movement disorder. Poor young man probably forcibly drugged against he's will.
Wow, I’ve never seen anyone like that. He must be really suffering.
Study this vid - This wasn't neurological....He had been on drugs prior.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 sources?
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 I don't believe that diminishes his suffering. I've been in a state of catatonia less severe than this. There were periods of lucidity when I knew how bad it was, and those were the worst. If this guy retained enough cognitive functions to answer questions or try to listen, chances are he's still at least partially aware of what's happening.
@@jeremycbarnhart2305 Drugs cause neurological changes and nutritional deficiencies. It's not as simple as "drugs".
He's emaciated.
@@TrielaRhyfel "sources?" !! Vid b*tch
My nephew is 43, born Christmas Day. Very sad to watch, 42 years of Cerebral Palsy with Schizophrenia and Craniosynostosis. We talk very often and see him seldom. My sister has not institutionalized him, oh what a fight it has been, but he is, when well enough, TRUE LOVE. My hero. Surviving all that adversity from birth.
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So beautiful.. I hope you are all doing good xxx God Bless xxx
bless him ❤
For everyone who thinks he was doomed to live a terrible existence, he turned out fine in a follow-up video about him. His recovery is nothing short of a miracle and the solution was something as mundane as a benzo (for his obvious anxiety), other antipsychotics and therapy. I would never have thought he could function outside a mental institution based on this video.
Benzos do the trick well. Ezpz no bad side effects either. SSRIs are dangerous to people who already have obvious mental imbalances. Your brain makes 4 chemicals for feeling on a daily basis. Taking SSRIs is basically like taking down all 4 pillars to rebuild the one you had an imbalance with then your stuck with more problems because they messed with the rest of your head instead of fixing the one issue. Drs today need to get better at their jobs and prescribing medications and quit being so terrified for their own asses ! They swore an oath to help people like this and I said it myself guarantee 20-30mgs of valium a day and he absolutely would NOT be acting like this. Give him SSRIs he either won't change or hel get worse. Due to the imbalancing of the 4 pillars of happy and chill out chemicals our brains produce. Chop down the dopamine serotonin oxytocin and GABA ALL 4 get haywired to fix the 1 GABA (the relaxy chemical)
Whereas if they just get a benzo it's directly going to aid them by not messing with every single chemical in their head.. and just calming them down.
Slowly bring them back. Takes time and care.. SSRIs are terrible. Anti psychotics are terrible. They've done nothing but destroy the mind of my old mother.
I've been on benzos for 15 years and haven't had any of that manic depressive psychotic crap happen to me.
Quite the opposite
And I have indeed suffered psychosis at least once from sleep deprivation. They gave me an SSRI made me start tripping balls then they said oh shit oops and gave me Seroquel then I was unconscious for 3 days out cold then they said okay here just have a valium.. and poof. Issues. Gone.
Just put me through the ringer with the off label medications they do that to friggin everyone and recommendations for psychs like..it's not for everyone.. all subjective pseudoscience crap.
Give us more valium!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly to most people these treatments are not mundane at all. People do not realise how powerful they are for those who really need them. I hope we get to a place in our society where doing talk therapy become as normal as going to the GP.
Is there a link to that video? This type normally has the poorest prognosis
Infatti, grazie a Dio, nell'altro video è completamente rinato.
Where is the video?
He looks happy when the doctor asked he went home, being with family is mybe good for me, so many things he likes to say
The mind is complex and often goes haywire. How incredibly tragic for those who suffer like this. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Psychiatric treatment is the real torture. This poor guy is suffering from akathisia a drug induced movement disorder. Probably forcibly drugged and shocked.
This poor kid is in the middle of a really bad episode.
It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
Really? I wouldn‘t have guessed
No, it can't be akathisia because antipsychotics are contraindicated for catatonia. That's been well known since the 1960's. When schizophrenics become catatonic, their antipsychotics must be stopped as soon as possible. What you are seeing here is excited catatonia.
There’s another video about this boy on this channel and he seemed to be so much better!
whats the name of the video?
@@fionaappl3 psychotic and delirium episode in a teenager
Oh yes. Seen already but did not realized he was the same guy.
@@Fanest855 turns out he died in 1974 at age 20 😞
@@piperbackwriter Ohh. What from?
very glad this clip came withs subtitles. alot of clips put up on youtube from non english speaking countries do not include subtitles which is frustrating because i only speak english and spanish.
this one had subtitles which is great. very interesting vid.
It breaks my heart seeing him like that 😭.
There's a good chance that he may self - harm!🙄
He looked so tired
Exactly
It's very tiring I was up for 3 days crying hoping the voices would shut up and my body shut down so I can rest
@@jetway931 Do you suffer from the condition in the video?
That is partially me whenever I'm seeing faded black visuals during the night 'cos I'm alone, paranoid, and overthinking. What works best for me is to get ample amount of sleep, eat well, and meditation. It's chronic whenever I'm tired that's why I tend not to break myself. The interesting here is the voices could speak intelligent things, yet sometimes violent. Though my last worse episode was already years ago when my mental health was close to a breaking point. Presently I'm grateful that I'm recovering.
Scary stuff!!
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@@percussion7798 same my story
I admire your courage. NEVER give up. Blessings to you.✨✨
I used to go on meth binges in my early 20s and would enter a stimulant induced psychosis like this after about 3 days, sometimes less. Bizarre headspace to be in.
Poor man. Terrible what he is suffering.
It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
That was hard to watch
So sad he cant sit still at all. He has no control of his body movement. He can respond to questions. Godbless you😪💚
The development of a human mind is so complicated and the onset of puberty brings in that flood of hormones, the crucial make or break for the organism. Poor kid, he needs amine channel maintenance compounds.
Could you explain more what he is needing??
Can you help
@@katalinasanf0rd805 socialisation, good modelling behaviour parents, quality nutritious food, a good posture, self esteem, more love
@@citizen3079 This is not how mental illnesses like his work.
That unstoppable movement😢
Oh Wow! Poor young man. How sad to have this awful condition.😢
I have strong anxiety and i can understanding how he behaves. You can not sit calm with anxiety.
Looking at these patients and hearing the kind voice of the sphycatrist, you can see that in some of the old interview,s the patients seem fine!, are asked did they have their dinner yet? and did they enjoy it? and do they like staying in the hospital?, and do they get treated well? and they always give a positive feed back, I mean, in the interviews i have watched?, the patients seem quiet content to me! This guy looks healthy and well taken care off! These patients had beautiful gardens to walk around in , with seats to sit on and to relax and breath in the fresh air! I'm sure it was,nt ALL DOOM AND GLOOM! But I am aware though that there were hundreds of patients and it got Soo over crowded and over whelming for the staff and nurses, that they had to shut it down! Also it was starting to cost too much and the government just couldn't afford to run it! Think of the cost of ALL THE FOOD, on a daily basis and the staff,s wages And the electric bills , and all the exstra essentials that they needed such as cleaning products, clothes, toiletries ,garden maintanance, etc, etc,. Of course there may have been rumours ??🤔🙄 of abuse, but even so , I'm sure it was minimum, probably more so neglect , because of the shortage of staff, they were over run with patients and were exhausted! This I blame on the government and governor of the state or county at the time, . But I'm sure there were ALOT of good doctors/nurses/ sphycatrist,s who dedicated their lives to this strange envoirement, and I'm sure they loved their patient,s and only wanted the best for them! People only ever show the dark side of a of mental hospital and paint it to be all doom and gloom,, but in alot of cases the hospital was the best place for them! Because alot of these patients would have come from abusive and voilent homes with parents who didn't give a F**k about them! Just my opinion🤗
Also take into account that the doctor knows he's being recorded
Wow.. well said!! ❤
Could be akathisia from antipsychotic medication.
My thoughts exactly
Agreed.
Akathesia is pure torture.He must have been really strong to endure it for any length of time.
Nope.
It can't be akathisia because antipsychotics are contraindicated for catatonia.
So if I understand the description, this boy has been diagnosed since he was two years old? With schizophrenia? Back then wasn’t it called autism? Today if schizophrenia can be detected at such a young age, it would be very rare. I may have misunderstood the written description. Anyway, my son has schizophrenia and his illness took the normal route of between 17 and 25 generally age wise. He was diagnosed at age 25. It’s a terrible disease. I feel so bad for this young man here and wonder where he is today and how he is.
It says he's had schizophrenia for 2 years since he was 12. Given his early age at the onset and the severity of his symptoms I fear things would not have worked out too well for this poor chap.
@@henrygingercat I’m afraid you’re right.
Hi Jean, you mind if I ask you a question? did your son when he was a child present with the typical autistic traits? how do you know when it goes from negative symptoms to diagnosable schizophrenia? and were there any blood relatives that you are aware of that were afflicted with this as well? Trying to do a little research for a case Im working on, most obliged. Additonally, I wish you well with your son
@@kggr8458 Thank you so much for your interest. My son did not show any autistic symptoms. His first cousin, six weeks older, though, was diagnosed with autism at about two years old. My son was diagnosed in third grade with ADHD (inattentive type) and also generalized anxiety. There is a history of schizophrenia in particular in my family, my own first cousin has schizophrenia. My mother’s first cousin also. There are two others as well, all on my mother’s side. My son started to have problems in high school but we were not aware of severe mental illness in a way that may have alerted us of what might really have been going on because those symptoms are usually attributed to normal teen behavior. He had his big breakdown in 2013 when he was 25. Unfortunately, this first dramatic break from reality happens after the person has already been dealing with something but nobody knows what’s actually happening, and too often our beloveds are taken away by law enforcement. My son was lucky in that the police recognized mental illness (by this time we knew something was dreadfully wrong). They very kindly got the information they needed to call his father instead of hauling him away, which is a tragic outcome far too often. I always say, “my son is not a criminal! He’s sick.” I don’t mind answering more questions, but of course, remember that schizophrenia is so variable, with symptoms and treatments that are not the same as everyone else who has this illness. I can speak to our experience.
@Jean. I have no experience of schizophrenia so forgive if I'm wrong but this looks like autism to me and back then they were calling it childhood schizophrenia. Now from what I know into my research into autism as a suspected aspie, they later learnt more and autism became autism and was recognised that autism was wrongly diagnosed as schizophrenia as they knew nothing else back then. But this does look like a lot of quite severe autistic people I've met and come across on the vast array of content from autistic individuals
This is even more fascinating in another language
It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
About half of homeless transients that you'll see in Los Angeles act just like this. But people assume it is automatically the result of illegal drug consumption. Could be both. But mental illness is definitely present.
Very Sad. Dude is clearly *not well* .. that would surely suck and be very painful and frustrating overall, obviously.
This one is hard to watch, this young man’s mental condition is impossible to comprehend, it should break any viewer’s heart.
This guy needed help and I’m am hopeful he did receive the appropriate care. God bless him. 😊
If I didn't know any better, I would've thought that he was a tweaker...I feel bad for all of these people. Just a bad roll of the dice
My brother in law has what used to be called hebephrenic schizophrenia (now called schizophrenic spectrum disorder I believe) and it's hard to see. For him, it really was a roll of the dice genetically because he is the only one in his lineage who developed schizophrenia. He's a lot like this guy except slower with his motions and he has very specific tics. He does an aggressive pinching movement repeatedly and makes gutteral sounds in between his nonsensical speech. The speech is rarely relevant to the conversation and he is prone to say "silly" things. It's such a severe condition. 😞
@Sundae Driver I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. Unfortunately he's my husband's older brother and is unable to care for himself. I don't know that he'd legally be allowed to marry, as he is profoundly disabled enough to still be under his parents' care.
They're getting older now (and he's about 40) so I worry about what will happen when they become too old to care for him. They do so many things for him including assisting with the most basic hygiene. He's very tall and wide and historically has had some issues controlling his aggression when he's getting too tired or hungry, so I worry that if we were to take him in, he would hurt my daughter. I don't say that lightly, he has just misunderstood her as being a threat to his mother's safety before and pushed her to the ground (she was two at the time, so naturally this scared her AND me). The biggest issue is that if he becomes aggressive, which arguably is not very common given the good care he's given, his father is large enough to physically restrain him, but my husband and I are not.
I really hate to speak about it like this because it's a terribly sad condition and I mean absolutely no harm, but I'm not sure I have it in me to care for him in his older years. I have no idea what we're going to do when his parents get too old. This condition is extremely challenging and he went untreated for long enough in his youth (adolescence to young adulthood) that he never became functional enough to do some of the most basic things. With earlier intervention, people have much better odds at being able to care for themselves on some level, but the series of events that occurred ended up with him being misdiagnosed as severely autistic. ☹️
I wish I could say that he was willing and able to have a spouse, but he functions roughly on the level of a five year old. I'm not sure how mild this condition can be, since he's the only person I've known that has really severe schizophrenia, so I would be interested in finding out if any patients with this type can be functional enough to have legal control over their lives. I wish it had worked out better for him and I hope that the money his grandparents put into a trust for him leads to him getting some kind of treatment that helps in any way.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! If you have any further questions about his condition, I will answer them to the best of my ability. I lived with my husband and his parents for about five years, so I've spent a lot of time around him.
I'm pretty sure I've seen another interview with this young man? Longer hair & not nearly as distressed.
Christina,,the thing that happened with your daugther,,he didnt see her as a threat to his mother,,he was jealous,,cause on his mind he s like a kid,,and probably when the time comes that his parents cant take care of him any more,,hes gonna need to be on some kind of hospital where they can take care of him,,and thats what you can start doing looking for a good place for him..cause theres no way your gonna take him to your place,,cause hes been living at his parents home all his life,,so taking him out of his comfort zone is not a good idea,,i know it sounds hard to think about placing him in a hospital,,but thats why u need to find a good place and always check on him,,
When that roll of the dice gives you the wrong psychiatric treatment. It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
My grandfather has schizophrenia. He’s always talking with his eyes closed while pulling on his shirt and dusting off his pants. He screams all night. Yelling “get out!” In Spanish. Or “don’t touch me!” He lives with me in his own room behind the house, all night we hear loud banging noises accompanied with his screams.
I hope you are able to get him to see a doctor. Meds should help with that tremendously. And if that's not affordable I am so sorry. That must be a nightmare to endure for both parties.
People always talks about treatment and medications, but never speak about the spiritual implications about this.
Theres a sipiritual realm that affects the humans.
The so called hallucinations are real before their eyes, it happens when the doors of the spiritual world are open. There, people see all kinds of unclean and bad spirits that brings torment on those who are victims of this.
Only the blood of Jesus and his power can close those doors.
@@lianrey12 stop not everyone believes in religion
@@lianrey12 people like you do no good… such a disgusting comment. stop bringing your beliefs into serious situations like mental illness. you are not helping
@@lianrey12 nonsense
Too sad to watch. I feel bad for him.
Heart wrenching- and we complain about utter BS.
Why iam crying its just so sad to see someone he suffers like this and you can't help him maybe this person is dead now may God have mercy on him
Self comforting gestures at that pace must reflect some major anxiety. He smiles often but it looks torturous
Some of those smiles like at 4:01 are actually grimaces caused by involuntary muscle contractions. The smiles where the lips are pulled back and the gums are showing are the grimaces. Also, he's displaying a bit of inappropriate affect. Both are part of catatonia.
This man, really makes me feel tender
Really surprising to find that he, apart from his poor condition, was still able to thank the doctor
I think we all have the ability to be selfish and only think of ourselves when someone close to us has needed us to listen to them. Nothing more, no special instructions, no special advice, just to listen.
And? You think he just needs a pat on the back & he's fine???
I feel it was wrong that the interviewer did not let him go to to his room, when the young man first asked. There are many good meds for mental disorders now, thank God. This video is so sad in many ways.
If the onset of puberty related to hormones is what triggers something like this, can hormonal adjustment or stopping hormones help? Is it too late once puberty has begun? I've no medical knowledge whatsoever. Just curious why it couldn't be a possibility.
It's akathisia. www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/what-is-akathisia
You mean small doses of pubery blocker....?
And it depends what hormones are blocked and what hormones to what neurotransmitter pathways.
It's not a one-to-one effect. Multiple pathways, multiple effects.
With a hormonal disorder (connected to a genetic d/o or not) the aim of treatment is to boost a particular hormone (unless aggression is needing amelioration or taking steroids in a competition although it seems this won't be an issue anymore if the swimming thing is applied to all sports).
A lack of hormones could causes the broad autism phenotype and schizophrenia spectrum with low likelihood but more often causes psychosocial issues, muscle issues and other endocrine issues.
Ive been watching these vids for days. I have a situation that has progressed over the last month with a stranger that walks past my house multiple times daily. Ill see him around noon then again around 4-5 pm or 8-8:30 pm. Im rural so hes walking more than 5 miles thruout the day. Ive observed him standing in one place for hours at a time. No matter the weather. Sometimes he looks at his finger tips, readjust his backpack, stands. He had a dog with him for a time, dog had a vest (well taken care of) and would carry his dogs bed and would make him lay until he was ready to walk again. Ive witnessed two heated exchanges with someone who seems to know him. He is hostile to them. Id say his age is anywhere from older teen to early 20's. Im rural so his daily walking is extensive. I had an animal outdoors i was directing back to their area and when i talked out loud to them, it got his attention. He stopped walking, turned around and stood for 2 hrs. Staring at my house. I could see he was agitated, he paced a few times, and stood staring at my house. Before he left, he said you have a problem im looking at your goats? Well maybe you wont have them anymore!
Weeks later, i found fir branches cut and broken from a tree at the edge of my driveway by the street. There was a pile of them, apparently he had stood in one spot, breaking them and cutting them and dropping on the ground. I noticed two days ago, my front gate had been unchained, the chain i never use was wrapped twice around the edge of gate as if someone had opened gate but wasnt sure what to do with the chain.
Ive observed him standing in the middle of the lane of the street after dark, just standing, at the intersection near my street. There have been times recently, when driving he has "noticed" me.
From his behavior I'd think maybe he suffers from schizophrenia. He no longer has his dog, sad.
So here I am, researching to see maybe where his head is at. Incredibly tragic and at the same time, I'm feeling quite uneasy with his apparent focus on me. Curious what anyone may think of this.
It's difficult to know if he's schizophrenic or suffering from some other mental illness or organic brain disease. He could mistakenly see you as a threat. As you probably know, schizophrenics have difficulty interpreting people's facial expressions, emotions and intentions. It's worrisome that he seems to be on his own. This person he argued with, did they seem to be family? He could be avoiding going home because they want him to take his medication or go to the hospital. If he continues to concern you, you can call the police for a wellness check. They are probably already familiar with him. Do you have neighbors you can ask about him?
If you speak to a person carefully, you might see they are very possible to speak to or at least you can try!
Also psychiatrists for a long time had (and maybe still have) the highest suicide rates. This video shows an example why.
It is sad that so many brilliant minds suffer w mental illness of some kind. Many abuse drugs to get out of the torment... if only for a little while.😥😥
What terrible anxiety, too.
god did not help him, the science, maybe. Poor guy, it seems like he was suffering ;(
God is more with him than any other.
@@carycervantes7117 So he's not healing him cos he's already chosen for heaven?
@Cokeboy Bebop Yes, we're all gonna die, only then u know what's up
Life is a test, and God who created this life to see who can be patient with his orders, even if you have cancer or car accident or you can't even move from your bed but you have to thank god because he chose this for you to give you a special thing at the end of this life, he chose this for you because maybe you will do something bad for yourself that you will regret it after and you will hate yourself... Open your mind Violee 🖤
@@Vintage.hollywood1 I have Schizophrenia and I have doubts about your comment. First things first is why didn't He fully healed me. I'm skeptical.
God help him. 💕
There is no god
Jesus said you are gods
If you believe there is a god, then why would they give this guy the disease?
HOW??
god doesnt fix mental illness
Heartbreaking
Poor guy is suffering, I hope he is doing better.
The fifth estate needs to continue their investigations into mental institutions to see if folks are being tested with research drugs or hhmm new drugs with high rebates.
you better stop believe Hollywood movies
I want to know more about his life.
I fluctuate between nearly all of the same exact positions. Just not as fast.
Very nice video!
I worked as an RN at an Institute for the criminally insane. I would much rather be paralyzed, then to be tortured with a diseased mind.
Did that once-famous artist--Salvidore Dali? Ever been known, to seek out, Psychiatric help? Keep up the good diagnosis!:-).
Poor man...i hope he got the right Help" 💝
Poor guy! I wonder how he got treated for his mental disorder?
His movements look like akithisia too
Why no feet movement at all tho???
No, this is excited catatonia. Akinesia is a side effect of antipsychotics which are contraindicated for catatonia. Akinesia PRESENTS like excited catatonia, but there are important differences. This patient checks all the boxes for excited catatonia. He's probably taking benzodiazepines and if he didn't improve would be a candidate for ECT, though his young age could be a problem.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of people like that dying on the streets of AMerica...ppl assume they are druggies.
Most of his strange actions look like a result of largactyl (chlorpromazine) medication predominantly to me at least (who has had innumerate types of mental health medications).
I thought so too. The meds can cause these movements.
Yes the old school antipsychotics. This looks more neurological than from anxiety
They don't mention this young man may also suffer from Tourettes' syndrome because he has no control over his physical movement.
The antipsychotic meds cause involuntary movements
That's not what tourret's syndrome is Debby.
schizophrenia can also affect motor movements and speech.
It’s Sebastian P. Liebremont.
Is that his name? I'm really curious to find more videos about this guy. I hope he has recovered.
How do you know?
@@gabriellyd4683he died in 1974
kinesthisia / tardive dyskinesia tics from antipsychotic meds?
We have no way of knowing if his condition could be caused by the medication ..
Just toss him out on the street like you do in America & 0 medication. Not barbaric at all.
Huntington's Disease?????
So sad .... the involuntary movement is caused by (due to) psychosis. I wonder where he is today?
He went to school with my mother, but he was often hospitalized because he was catatonic/psychotic. One major consequence of the catatonia was that he couldn't eat, and his physical health deteriorated. Eventually, he contracted viral pneumonia during a prolonged hospital stay. He's buried in the cemetery near my grandparent's house. I believe he was 21 when he died in 1974. My mom said the day of his funeral there wasn't a dry eye in the village. He really tried hard to fight the schizophrenia, but his medication would only work for a few months, then another crisis, and back to the hospital. He was an intelligent, sweet person from a good family, and he deserved so much more than life gave him, but he's at peace now. 🌹 🕊
@@Jana8430-em2ydso sad to hear that. May him peace. 😢❤ thank you for telling us this.
I'm on disability for mental illness sucks..631NY
Hes all there in some form.
in what institution were this videos recorded?
St catherine
In today's day....one might think he's on meth (constant movements). Presents like a severe case of ADHD
He looks like he's tweeking.
In today’s society this could be mistaken for a meth addict.
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It doesn't seem to me like its just psychological.
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He's seen something terrible
i act like this in public, in school, i cant calm my body language:u
He like to be alone
Thc would of helped him.
Would of made him worse it caused my illness
Some people should never be parents
His mother loved him very much. This is just mental illness.
That's more of a Tourette syndrome (that movement).
No, google "excited catatonia" in schizophrenia. It just looks a bit like tourette syndrome, but there's a great deal more going on here symptom-wise.
Schizophrenia is every impulse, thought and subconscious reality has a voice and they all talk to you at once and you hear them clearly outside of you.
Yes! I like this description! 🙌
its hard :/
I believe that we have medications that would help someone living with severe mental illness like this person (?)
Well I hope so
Nope.
Yes we do - there are many excellent medications now that can help people lead much better lives - many can have jobs, relationships etc. Having a good diet, exercise etc and not too much stress also helps.
Poor young man.
Omg.... i cant reach even 5 or 6 % of his thought.. when to mess . He turned to mataiin his breath
Wow my sister is this way 😢
Too many questions. Only people who are emotionally intelligent should interview people like this.
why does he move like that
somebody below said Akathisia... for him to be moving like so much he must be on a hefty dose
Because his mental state is suffering it’s all disorganized he can’t bare it he needs to move or fidget
This dude is a wreck.
Schizophrenics get no rest. I think it is sleep related.
So sad...he needs cares non words by journalist!
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Psychiatry is a crime against humanity. This poor guy has akathisia drug induced movements from psychiatric forced drugging
I'm guessing this interview is from the 70's? Poor bugger.