What happened to Backyard Baseball?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- #kofiewhy I miss the Backyard Sports series... but... after what I learned.... I don't want this game series to come back
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Pablo Sanchez the 🐐
If Backyard had a storymode or mode where you can pick a single roster character and could upgrade them. It could make a good comeback
The 2010 one had a story mode. They were just terrible
ProcrastinatorSports yeah but if it did cameback I don’t mind seeing a story mode that is good or a GM Mode or a Association League like in the NBA or try to update with the kids with the new characters then I could see it going. But I like Backyard Baseball 2005 I want that type of game that if they do comeback
No that’s a dumb idea
Bruh we did
@@joshzpipos1 Pablo Sanchez babyyyyy
Man I played the Hell out of Backyard Football 2002. Man that is interesting to hear that Pablo Sanchez speaks English. I didn't know this tidbit of information. Also Pablo Sanchez is the Bo Jackson of Backyard Football he is soo good to use as a RB.
Bro the nostalgia makes me want to fuckin cry. Used to spend hours playing backyard football, baseball and basketball on windows xp. And then continued to play on PlayStation for years. Great games for the kids who were made aware. I didn’t know anybody else who had the games, so it seems like if you didn’t have the games to begin with, you probably weren’t going to know about it.
I loved this series though I was too poor to buy the full game as a kid. The demos were live
If you have an emulator you can go get em now! 👀
I played so much I backyard baseball on the gameboy advance and 2006 backyard football on the pc, it’s ingrained in my brain, all the players, the cheesy lines, the sound effects, the music, I can still name my entire team in football from 16 years ago, soooo much nostalgia
Nice video Kofie. Never knew there were ANY console Backyard games, I only ever played the ones on my old bulky PC. Back in the day. Once I got into mario sports, I didn't think about the backyard ones for a long time. They had a good run, but they just couldn't keep up with gaming trends.
Exactly hahaha with the console shift the Backyard Sports series tried to keep up but just couldn't
I was born in 2002 but I feel more in love with baseball series.
Just ran across this video, and I'm an enormous fan of the HE games myself. And, for the most part, what you did talk about isn't wrong. However, there's a ton more to it, and from what I gather you only seem to be familiar with the early parts of the series.
So, it's first important to remember that Humongous, prior to Backyard Sports, was most known for their point-and-click adventure games. They are what put the company on the map, and it's important to remember that. I believe it wasn't until the third game in this series (Backyard Football) that the Sports outdid the adventures in popularity. Then once that happened, they acquired all of the major sports licenses and went back and redid Backyard Baseball and Soccer with pro players, which further boomed the series' popularity. However, there's a part to this that a lot of people don't realize.
When the company was under the ownership of Infogrames, apparently they were *very* stingy about stepping out of any comfort zones they established. Prior to that occurring, it was easy making a new IP and trying something different -- they didn't have big people in suits and ties telling them "No, you can't do that, we'll lose too much money!" Worse yet, they started demanding more in a shorter amount of time. I think that's what led to Baseball 2003 and Soccer 2004 being so similar to their previous installments -- like, the only substantial difference I can think of is that they redid the entire sound design, complete with a new voice cast. They also came out just after Humongous had to lay off almost half of their staff, as you had pointed out (2002 wasn't exactly a good year for them, to say the least; both games were finished in that year). I think they tried to compensate for the lessened staff by cutting production on the adventures temporarily, which they briefly attempted to revive in 2003, but it sadly wasn't successful. I'd argue the games after that made some pretty substantial changes to the formula (Baseball 2005 in particular, which was a full 3D game), but again, it became problematic when Atari (previously Infogrames) kept demanding more games in a shorter span of time, all with the burden of a dwindling staff. That led to a saturated series that just wasn't lucrative enough to keep bringing a profit; think sort of like the Guitar Hero/Rock Band situation some years ago. It was a smash hit franchise that fell victim to market oversaturation and people getting sick of it. And, I agree with what you said, people had just outgrown the series and there was too much charm lost in it for any newcomers to express interest. Any attempts Humongous made to try and salvage their company (MoonBase Commander being the most tragic example, a very unique strategy game that fell victim to crappy marketing courtesy of Infogrames) proved fruitless.
The new company that rose from the ashes of the 2005 bankruptcy (Humongous Inc) was pretty much in-name only. Only about 3-5 of the original staffers remained there, and at that point the series just turned into a major sports league shill. A good pointer to go by is that if the game title has any year later than "2006" in its name (they named games a year ahead of their release date), those are the games made after all of this happened.
Overall, pretty good video I'd say. It's hard to find information on these games so I don't blame you for any troubles you may have had. And hopefully that clears up some of the questions you may have had.
Mr. Eight-Three-One How do you know all this information?
@@Pablosanchez-fq5ig Mostly because I'm a huge nerd.
Well, the longer explanation: Humongous Entertainment was my first experience with computers, and I have a special liking to them because of it. They were what put me on my career path to electrical engineering. I also was one of the first people on the Internet to spark a new interest in these games, and over the years that's led to me gathering a lot of information. On top of that, I also have contact with a few of the former employees via the Humongous Entertainment Alumni page on Facebook. Some of the other tidbits of information have come from things that the devs have shared, old press releases, and general conversational things. For instance, Baseball not doing well its first year -- that info came from a developer comment on one of Ron Gilbert's blog posts (which sadly is now deleted). Infogrames being awful is common knowledge when you listen to enough recountings -- pretty much nobody on the old dev team has anything nice to say about them. I can't remember where I was told that Atari was demanding a bunch, but it still becomes evident if you look at the release schedule through the years -- they went from 1-2 installments a year to 3-4, which is *very* taxing on a dev team that was shrinking.
Oh yeah, speaking of which, the mass layoffs are also common knowledge if you listen to enough recounts, but several articles also exist pointing it out.
TL;DR: A nerdy obsession that started nearly ten years ago has led to me being an encyclopedia of information.
Even if there are no more backyard baseball games Pablo Sanchez still lives on as a icon
I miss playing these backyard sports games too
So then go play them again
@@jojob.9689 sure thing
I started with the garbage one 09 that cut out like half of the kids....and I played the hell out of it and it was the first game that I got hooked on...however over a decade later I discovered that the old ones could be played on SCUMMVM and I played the hell outta the older baseball ones...
I was an idiot to turn down backyard skateboarding when I saw it in the same dollar store where I picked up backyard baseball 09..
The skating one wasn't nearly as good. How did you get it to run on scummvm?
@@marcyates7087 I didn't get the skateboarding one to run on there bc it's impossible, I'm just saying I saw it.
I ran the baseball and football ones in SCUMMVM
@@dcb99filmz do you remember where you downloaded the baseball file by chance?
My favorite was Bakcyard Baseball 2005. It had the most to unlock, and tons of strange powerups. I think they should have capitalized HEAVILY on the wacky powerups, and more IN the game modes. Maybe have some sort of bossfught in Home Run Derby, after you make a certain number of home runs. Maybe have a guy riding in a lawnmower you have to hit after you make 50 home runs. Make another boss as a pitcher at 100.
Have MORE wacky and interesting characters to unlock. They don't all need to be REAL baseball players. In 2005. We got a Robot! Why not add aliens, mummies, mutants and superheros? Horror and thriller characters, etc? There was tons of potential.
I remember playing Basketball and Football on GBA, good old days.
I had basketball on gameboy but lost it a long time ago. Sooo damn fun. I have baseball basketball and football on ps2 and the crappy wii baseball game that I played once and immediately put down forever lmao.
I find these at a thrift store for like 75 cents😂// I played rookie rush and it was great! But dead😭 took me 25 min to find an online game
Backyard baseball was the best. The stadiums were sick
I own backyard baseball 2001 and backyard football 2004 and the original. Love all of those games.
Backyard games without pro players and pro teams are the purest ones. Backyard Baseball 1997 is the best of them.
kahaee poole thats your opinion. Also, Sanchez was a pro player how?
@kahaee poole You misunderstand. I meant an actual, real life athlete who played professionally for a professional sports franchise. Sanchez is a fictional character. Pro level, yes, but not an actual person.
Backyard Baseball 1997 and 2001 are the best games in the series. I agree that the games were more pure without the pro teams, but 2001 was still sick
@@joyoustye2326 2001 Was The First One To Feature MLB Pros
Backyard baseball will always be my all time favorite game if they bring it back I’m buying several copies for my friends and family
Good review Brodie keep it up. Not sure why this game popped back into my mind and brought me here 😂
The 3d baseball game with ARod on the cover is the shit, one of the greats.
Oh agreed! There was a time in 2003--2007 when that game was just my childhood!
Years later I brought back Backyard Baseball 2005 for PC with A-Rod on the cover and played that for a couple years till about 2017
Hit a walk off home run with Alfonso Soriano in Game 5 of the World Series to comeback from 5-0 down and win it all.
That was officially the end for me and that game going out in style!
Samantha Pearce is my favorite character from the series
I'm still hopeful for a new game
I live in a country where football means soccer and barely anybody knows American football, let alone understand it. But I had this inept interest in American football since I was little.
I couldn't really pin down the reason why this sport had me interested more than soccer or even basketball since forever.
But then I recently remembered that I had played Backyard Football back when I was a kid. I remembered going "what the fuck is going on?" and just picked whatever play from the playbook that had arrows pointing at the other team's side of the field and prayed to God that when it came time for them to take the ball to my side of the field, the play that I picked could stop them.
I've recently picked up Backyard Football 2006 (and yes, although it's not the same game I played when I was a kid and it's in 3D, the characters still had some of their characteristics)
Tony the Vec as QB and shotcaller, with Kimmy the sugar addict as the tackling Tight End, Maria the pink Power Ranger and Pablo fuckin Sanchez on the wide, Annie The hippie as the kicker/supplementary lineman, Keisha bashing kids' heads in on the line, and Luanne Lui dabbing on those running plays
God, I wish I was born in America just so I could play some good, old backyard football.
Had no idea the console game existed
Yeah they tried but the studio transfers were just tough to adjust
@@KofieWhy I might be late but I think I understand why it failed. You’re right about the lack of change I think the games lost their charm and never really adapted to making console games. The 2010 game had some things to it but wasn’t really the same game we all know and love and it lost interest
It’s sad to see such an amazing piece of your childhood thrown away. But business is business
And gaming is gaming. Someone should try again.😂
Backyard sports was excellent...Then Along Came ATARI!!!!!
love this video and all these amazing comments~
I found my nachos they were under my chair
with technology now what if they made a console game with all the original characters and real players like Mario sports games in 3d but added a bunch of their quirky BYS charm. I would play that on nintendo switch. and had like a story and multiplayer mode and etc. so much more even an BYS olympics version idk during the olympics. Or a BYS college edition I honestly would play it or have it just for the nostalgia and have my future kids play it. I wouldn't like the baseball one doesn't look fun. Soccer and basketball was my shit though especially on tournament mode.
i grew up with the xbox 360 games
Stephanie Morgan baseball
Baseball ⚾️🧢 basketball 🏀football ⚽️
We need a new game!
You mean to tell me pablo that this whole time you can speak English? OMG IVE BEEN LIVING A LIE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS!!!😱
IM THE REAL PABLO SANCHEZ
@@Harry29382 why can’t there be two? That just means more home runs!
@@MiscellaneousMaladies but I’m the real one though
We're getting it!
Personally, I'd love to have this series revived as a slice of life show and/or comic. Something like Peanuts with the zaniness of Ed, Edd, and Eddy. Obviously, a game would be nice too, but I think the Backyard Kids lend themselves well to such a concept.
Any idea who owns the rights now? I want to give this series another run but don't want to be sued by whoever is part of that European investment group.. let me know if you've heard anything regarding ownership since this video. Can't find much online and doesnt look like Day6 is still around to ask. Thanks! Great video.
Thanks for doing the leg work. I loved these games as a kid. They popped into my mind for some reason recently and I had the same though - what happened? I downloaded Backyard Baseball 2001 for ScummVM and played for a while.
More or less I think I just grew up, interests changed. Both with the audience and (as you state) with computer games, it was a "moment in time" phenomenon.
5:38 It sounds like Infogrames was more interested in competing, i.e. squashing the competition, than nurturing the franchise.
I also have ScummVM. The Backyard Basketball one doesn't work tho lol
@@KofieWhy I bought a cd rom reader to plug into my MacBook. I also bought a copy of backyard baseball from 1997 the original before all the pro players were on it. I have an old byb disk somewhere but can’t find it. It should come in on Sunday so I’m excited for it!!
It's a shame they don't make these games anymore. The series lasted from 1997 to 2015. It's had more games than any of the other Humongous Entertainment sereis. It's shame to see it go.
I legit downloaded backyard baseball on an emulator a couple of months ago and I still play it...
Geez I’m old
Wait you have an emulator? What games? I tried with one before and it didn't work.
They completely fucked up Pablos design in the newer games
Backyard basketball '07 is the shit
I actually own A LOT of and still have the original disk for some of backyard games. My favorite of ALL-TIME is Backyard Football 2006! The new power up system and improved 3-D aspects made me play this game for HOURS and HOURS
Also That Was Tom Brady's Very First Appearance In An Backyard Football Game
I just started a season mode yesterday and I’m currently 7-2! I didn’t chose any pro players and just picked the neighborhood kiddos and made a player of my own.
Nostalgia in a nutshell
I disagree with you on the ps2 versions of backyard games. I prefer the look of the pc versions, but the jump to 3d in the early 2000s was pretty good. It was when they made those last two that I just couldn’t do it anymore. I so wish they would have kept the series going without changing so much the way the characters looked. :( I miss the series.
my first backyard sports game was backyard basketball 2004 on pc.
Backyard is back!
Honestly, even now, I don't feel compelled to seek out the Mario baseball games. I just like the original Backyard Baseball too much.
O did
Football was lit I had 09 and 10 with Tom Brady on the front for the PS2
I don’t want to sound dramatic, but I would kill a man for a new 2D Backyard Baseball/Football game with modern pros.
Thank you for the video it really help me figure out what happened to backyard sports series that I love!!
I miss this series so much
Backyard baseball 2005 was my first sports game and that was my shit back in the day
That One Was Unique Because It Separated Power And Contact Into Separate Categories Each
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