This turned out great! Absolutely amazing how the first stage landings have become routine now, both in reality and in KSP with our scripts :) Can't wait to see what amazing stuff SpaceX will do in the future
The footage here is amazing mate. We have something very special here. Check out the music version here guys! Incredible stuff. ua-cam.com/video/aPXzNDhz6p8/v-deo.html
Nessus Yeah it was really cool but when the boosters landed on the droneship you do know spacex only has two in for equatorial orbits and one for polar orbits far from each other that was unrealistic but great video quality!😊
And it wasn't even that expensive compared to the Shuttle and some other rockets. Depending on what figures you use it cost about 5k - 7k per kg to orbit. Compare that to the Shuttle at over 20k, Ariane 5 at 10k and Soyuz at 7k. It's not bad. Only China's LMII and Indias polar launcher beat that with 5k and 4k. Of course now 40 years later we have the F9 coming it at 2700ish per kg expendable and just under 2k reusable. Of course BFR will smash that, assuming twice the currently rumoured 6 million-ish launch cost of BFR you get between 40 to 70 bucks per kg to orbit. That 15k to launch an average weight human with a bit over twice his weight in supplies into orbit.
@@221b-l3t Proton also beats it, you forgot about it ;) Also, if we are to use 1970s cost of Saturn, then Soyuz's would be lower, is it adjusted, or period-value USD?
The Saturn figures I used are in todays money. All are. You're right Proton is actually a great rocket. It's just now starting to be more expensive than Falcon with the reuse and Block 5 discounts. Maybe they'll put it back to its original purpose of launching the full yield version of RDS-220. :)
Hey Marcus, does Burberry (if he still works for you) have a brother named Murberry? A kerbal with that name just started working for my program several weeks ago.
timemachine_194 Well 1, That’s for just the cost of what spaceX charges, 2 that’s still WAY cheaper than the Saturn 5 rocket, and 3, SpaceX has no plans to land people on the moon. It’s the company’s job to make all the extra stuff. Also I’m just talking about the rockets.
Amazing video - and really exciting to think that this exact mission might happen in my lifetime. Imagine watching a sidebooster land on a droneship from the camera mounted on a sidebooster about to land on a droneship.
I don’t know why 1 pilot would stay behind, I mean unlike the Apollo missions we have advance computer technology and could probably get more science or work done with 3 crew in instead of 2. The real reason I’m saying this is because if I ever get the chance to be a part of spaceX and their possible moon mission I don’t wanna stay behind.
I Agree, aside from that I’m surprised you answered me I’m not used to people with 10k+ subs answering me, just another reason why you’re a great channel.
This plan would require SpaceX and ULA to collaborate. SpaceX has the boosters and ULA has the transfer stages. Would the Falcon Heavy be able to launch the Orion spacecraft which is designed for use in deep space and high speed re-entry?
Amazing stuff. Kinda how I picture a lunar landing mission looking like if SpaceX & Lockheed or Boeing ever teamed up to do it. Though it would be much cheaper & simpler to just use a BFR/BFS.
Just home, turned on the computer, and discovered a new Marcus House video waiting patiently... life is good! And as usual he didn't disappoint, brilliant video there mate, you make that KOS look simple to operate, but that's not the case. Great job as always, and the picture quality in this video seems to be higher than normal, you changed something? Thanks for putting the time and effort into this one Marcus!!
I will take that as a compliment :) As Marcus said in the beginning, the video and the script are by me, he did the voice-over and commentary. You can find the original video here: ua-cam.com/video/aPXzNDhz6p8/v-deo.html
You're quite right and my apologies for forgetting that. You did a great job Nessus - WAY better than that Marcus House fellow (but don't tell him I said so!). Actually his videos are just so-so, yours are much better! 😁
I absolutely love your presentations and recently started following your channel. To this nearly perfect plan I would only change two things. 1- the transfer vehicle should be Hydrazine, allá AJ -10 or Briz M, Freggat on steroids. The risk of that transfer vehicle fuels burning away is too great. What if weather delays occur, could think of many other reasons for a delay. Then that RL 10 powered stage is for not after how long? 2- why still make the same mistake with lander? No cross propellant capability between lower and accent stage? Why? Either that gets fixed or we use the Russian lander approach, it’s much safer. If am incorrect I’ll be glad to read
In orbiter 2016 there is a scenario where all 3 boosters return to the launch pad with a payload of 17tons to LEO. But I dont know if there will be any real life falcon heavy missions with this kind of profile
When they first went to the moon people had to wait years to get a realistic movie depicting what happened but now we make the movie years before it happens
Very Apollo... falcon heavy can send an autonomous lander in one shot, Apollo didn't have the technology to do that. One extended range CrewDragon would need to be landed on the moon by F9H. A tanker F9 would refuel a second stage+CrewDragon and the result would head to the moon. 5 F9 boosters needed, vs 7 and an additional docking manuever the Apollo way. This does require a Moon EVA to get back. As a bonus, that way leaves a dragon capsule on the moon that could be used for spare parts, flown in emergencies after a refuel, or linked together with hubs for a moon base. An F9H autonomous payload delivery vehicle would need to be made for the moon base idea.
Wow. This is just like in reality pretty great ;). Would be so great to see this happen in reality. Looks like its possible to do it like that. The only things that must be developed would. Be the lander, the command module and the transfer module. The rest is already there. But at the moment nasa developes their sls and space x concentrates on spaceship, which is also pretty great but I think would still takes at least 2 years to get it in a state where it can enter orbit
The current administrator says crew dragon cant be used, no propulsion and as I recall cant attach propulsion to it as it would be to heavy. He was asked this exact question and he outlined the details of why SLS is the best option unfortunately with all of its cost overruns.
What I would really like to see is a full tutorial on using kOS to do the booster returns and other things. The closest thing I have watched was from cheerskevin but it started out strong, then he left stuff out at the end and so it was incomplete
This is exactly why the space companies should work together. Blue Origin makes the Lander Basically Blue Moon Crew Version (with help from SpaceX and NASA perhaps) ULA ACES Upper Stage for the the moon transfer (This stage gas super low boil off, can power istelf with an APU and is very customizable) SpaceX does the rest (Launches, Spacesuits, Mission Control, Crew Dragon for the Capsule)
I like falcon heavy, but there's a reason the Saturn V, like a lot of people will stay my favorite rocket. Falcon needs three launches to get a moon mission complete, while the Saturn V just one and dones it, much more efficient. But the falcon does have it in reusability.
Watching this 3 years later its crazy to think that we could possibly just use existing hardware to get to the moon. There are a few bugs to work out, like crew dragon not being rated to cross the Van Allen Belts, but I'm sure Spacex could figure it out. NASA however wanted to go a bit bigger and launch SLS and Starship at the same time to land a whole base up there! lol give it to the US government if its not insanely expensive its just not a good solution.
This turned out great! Absolutely amazing how the first stage landings have become routine now, both in reality and in KSP with our scripts :) Can't wait to see what amazing stuff SpaceX will do in the future
The footage here is amazing mate. We have something very special here. Check out the music version here guys! Incredible stuff.
ua-cam.com/video/aPXzNDhz6p8/v-deo.html
For sure that was an amazing job!
Looking forward to more General Products & SpaceX collaboration on spaceship design!
Nessus Yeah it was really cool but when the boosters landed on the droneship you do know spacex only has two in for equatorial orbits and one for polar orbits far from each other that was unrealistic but great video quality!😊
Is the script open for usage?
It's just insane to me that we can watch these rockets go up into space and land back in the same area they took off from within minutes routinely.
"So Marcus, what do you do for a living?"
"I launch rockets."
"So you work for NASA?"
"Nah, I just play KSP!"
XD
Jewdolf Jitler he wouldn't make even close to enough
Well Marcus is getting quite poor then, KSP content seems to be drying out. Sadly but more sadly it goes for more streamers.
This really puts it into perspective of how powerful the Saturn Five rocket really was.
And it wasn't even that expensive compared to the Shuttle and some other rockets. Depending on what figures you use it cost about 5k - 7k per kg to orbit. Compare that to the Shuttle at over 20k, Ariane 5 at 10k and Soyuz at 7k. It's not bad. Only China's LMII and Indias polar launcher beat that with 5k and 4k. Of course now 40 years later we have the F9 coming it at 2700ish per kg expendable and just under 2k reusable.
Of course BFR will smash that, assuming twice the currently rumoured 6 million-ish launch cost of BFR you get between 40 to 70 bucks per kg to orbit. That 15k to launch an average weight human with a bit over twice his weight in supplies into orbit.
@@221b-l3t Proton also beats it, you forgot about it ;)
Also, if we are to use 1970s cost of Saturn, then Soyuz's would be lower, is it adjusted, or period-value USD?
The Saturn figures I used are in todays money. All are. You're right Proton is actually a great rocket. It's just now starting to be more expensive than Falcon with the reuse and Block 5 discounts. Maybe they'll put it back to its original purpose of launching the full yield version of RDS-220. :)
Fetgu
I thought the same thing
Elon should see this
Now that would be nice! :)
I'm sure he did.
Vilhelmas he doesn‘t seem like the guy to spend time watching UA-cam
Human Person 24+ hours work, that's him
Human Person v
Great mission and excellent cinematic work. Very enjoyable video :)
We need Matt Lowenie, and all of my three favorite ksp youtuber
They Would Need All The Drone Ships
"Of Course I Still Love You"
"Just Read The Instructions"
"A Shortfall of Gravitas"
Great job! Love all these Falcon Heavy uploads!
Terrific editing and footage capture here by Nessus. The music version is sweet too.
ua-cam.com/video/aPXzNDhz6p8/v-deo.html
Thanks!
Hey Marcus, does Burberry (if he still works for you) have a brother named Murberry? A kerbal with that name just started working for my program several weeks ago.
Elon musk: hold my beer
Aren’t you dead 🤨
A reference to Skippy the magnificent? I've been loving that book series.
Zac Lego Attack ssshh ;)
Marcus House maeby... maeby ;)
but wait a sec ... real osama did not drink beer
We can’t land on the moon. The landing rockets would melt the cheese.
Cheese is frozen so it holds together
Jesus I never thought of that
nobody can eat it, the cheese has been there for millions of years, it's got freezerburn.
Are there space ants?
@@convolutedpeppercorn1078 there are in the apollo 18 movie
What's cool about this, is that it could actually happen. That's mad. I love it
This demonstration has restored my hope. We may actually be able to return to the moon soonish.
Impressive cinematics! Very well done. Keep up the great work!
Loved the Super Draco's at the end, was not expecting that!
What a great show! Thanks, Marcus!
Total cost: ~$240M
Bexter ollie that is not too much actually
timemachine_194 Well 1, That’s for just the cost of what spaceX charges, 2 that’s still WAY cheaper than the Saturn 5 rocket, and 3, SpaceX has no plans to land people on the moon. It’s the company’s job to make all the extra stuff. Also I’m just talking about the rockets.
@timemachine_194 but mission of appolo saturn v cost only 25,4 B $
@@vladdm3142 yeah it costed a lot but don't forget that it was a long time ago and the best rocket scientists were working on the project.
Plus a couple of billion to develop the cryogenic stage and the lander!
This was a great video.. very interesting mission plan and excellent editing. Just subscribed!
I love these space x vids, keep up the great work!
Really nice simulation man!
Amazing video - and really exciting to think that this exact mission might happen in my lifetime.
Imagine watching a sidebooster land on a droneship from the camera mounted on a sidebooster about to land on a droneship.
My favorite part of the video was the Super draco thrusters coz its cool
thats how the crew dragon WAS gonna land lol
wait a minute if you were sending supplies up wouldn't you want to setup a base on the moon
:O
This is the most satisfying of all your videos!!
I guess the B5 interstage from the previous launch is under revision haha
Awesome! Dude you got list the mods used omg for even more Awesome! :))
All these perfect landings is just too good to watch....So satisfying. Wish i could master Kos like that.
Nothing better than hearing that familiar "Hey Hey" after school
Keep up the good work!
This really puts Saturn 5 into perspective. That thing was a beast!
Incredible work! Instant subscription! Big thumbs up!
Holy shit this must’ve taken DAYS! Thanks so much man!
absoloutely love these space x videos marcus keep em coming bud
3:22 that was the most perfect landing I´ve ever seen
Marcus... that was absolutely amazing! Man! I can't believe it.
Awesome!
I love these hypothetical Falcon Heavy missions. Keep it up!
Maybe you can do Blue Origin/ULA hypothetical missions!
Seeing a propulsive landing dragon was cool since I won’t be able to see one in real life :( RIP red dragon
amazing moon landing!
Absolutely beautiful. Nice work.
That is awesome!! Loved it!!!
That Earth rise shot was brilliant!
I love that you use sstu and other mods.
That KSP moonscape sure looks like Arizona ; )
I don’t know why 1 pilot would stay behind, I mean unlike the Apollo missions we have advance computer technology and could probably get more science or work done with 3 crew in instead of 2. The real reason I’m saying this is because if I ever get the chance to be a part of spaceX and their possible moon mission I don’t wanna stay behind.
Yea. Probably true actually. May be good to have someone up there as backup just in case for the first few trial missions.
I Agree, aside from that I’m surprised you answered me I’m not used to people with 10k+ subs answering me, just another reason why you’re a great channel.
Btw, I know you didn’t do the mission but still great job on the video
probably just in case someone needs to smack the computer with a RebootbyFour
I dont think that's realistic.
the core booster didnt instantaneously deconstruct on the landing pad
you mean a rapid unscheduled disassembly?
lol
The second FH launch did successfully land the centre core. Unfortunately it fell off before they got to port.
This was great would love to see a follow up to your moon mission where you left supply's & a temporary survival camp!
This plan would require SpaceX and ULA to collaborate. SpaceX has the boosters and ULA has the transfer stages. Would the Falcon Heavy be able to launch the Orion spacecraft which is designed for use in deep space and high speed re-entry?
Wow this video is awesome congrats mate
Amazing stuff. Kinda how I picture a lunar landing mission looking like if SpaceX & Lockheed or Boeing ever teamed up to do it. Though it would be much cheaper & simpler to just use a BFR/BFS.
That would be a gr8 test!
it would be amazing to see spaceX actually try this.
Just home, turned on the computer, and discovered a new Marcus House video waiting patiently... life is good!
And as usual he didn't disappoint, brilliant video there mate, you make that KOS look simple to operate, but that's not the case.
Great job as always, and the picture quality in this video seems to be higher than normal, you changed something?
Thanks for putting the time and effort into this one Marcus!!
I will take that as a compliment :) As Marcus said in the beginning, the video and the script are by me, he did the voice-over and commentary. You can find the original video here: ua-cam.com/video/aPXzNDhz6p8/v-deo.html
You're quite right and my apologies for forgetting that. You did a great job Nessus - WAY better than that Marcus House fellow (but don't tell him I said so!). Actually his videos are just so-so, yours are much better! 😁
That's what I like to hear xD
-Marcus is secretly the next man on the moon-
Amazing as always
-Turns out Marcus secretly works for spaceX and just mimicked what Elon musk will do in the near future- great video :)
Hey man, I was wondering how you got the Falcon Rockets to work and if you could send me the configs
I believe 4 astronauts will be used in the future = two medics & two engineers
At least now I can say I was there watching that video before Marcus made it super popular. ;) :D
The landing rockets for the CM into the ocean is cool, but if I were flying in that CM I’d prefer to have some parachutes incase the engines fail.
And the farings? Recover those! ;)
SpaceX enters a strategic partnership with General Products...
This is art
I absolutely love your presentations and recently started following your channel.
To this nearly perfect plan I would only change two things.
1- the transfer vehicle should be Hydrazine, allá AJ -10 or Briz M, Freggat on steroids. The risk of that transfer vehicle fuels burning away is too great. What if weather delays occur, could think of many other reasons for a delay. Then that RL 10 powered stage is for not after how long?
2- why still make the same mistake with lander? No cross propellant capability between lower and accent stage? Why? Either that gets fixed or we use the Russian lander approach, it’s much safer.
If am incorrect I’ll be glad to read
In orbiter 2016 there is a scenario where all 3 boosters return to the launch pad with a payload of 17tons to LEO. But I dont know if there will be any real life falcon heavy missions with this kind of profile
What a perfect suicidal retro burn finish!
Space x is fond of propulsion landings
well, it's actually pretty hard mode.
one falcon heavy (with transfer stage) falcon 9 + dragon v2 should do the job just fine
When they first went to the moon people had to wait years to get a realistic movie depicting what happened but now we make the movie years before it happens
Very Apollo... falcon heavy can send an autonomous lander in one shot, Apollo didn't have the technology to do that. One extended range CrewDragon would need to be landed on the moon by F9H. A tanker F9 would refuel a second stage+CrewDragon and the result would head to the moon. 5 F9 boosters needed, vs 7 and an additional docking manuever the Apollo way. This does require a Moon EVA to get back.
As a bonus, that way leaves a dragon capsule on the moon that could be used for spare parts, flown in emergencies after a refuel, or linked together with hubs for a moon base. An F9H autonomous payload delivery vehicle would need to be made for the moon base idea.
Wow. This is just like in reality pretty great ;).
Would be so great to see this happen in reality. Looks like its possible to do it like that. The only things that must be developed would. Be the lander, the command module and the transfer module. The rest is already there.
But at the moment nasa developes their sls and space x concentrates on spaceship, which is also pretty great but I think would still takes at least 2 years to get it in a state where it can enter orbit
The current administrator says crew dragon cant be used, no propulsion and as I recall cant attach propulsion to it as it would be to heavy. He was asked this exact question and he outlined the details of why SLS is the best option unfortunately with all of its cost overruns.
Make this man the head of the Australian Space Agency
It's : rendez vous
( I'm french)
But by the way, it's a super cool video!!! Love to see some Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy "flying" even in a simulation
Dammit! I should know, I had french in school...
I haven't even viewed a video, put already put a like on it. Why? Because Marcus house's videos can't be bad!
When you said perfect:
I thought about COUNTRY ROAD, TAKE ME HOME, TO THE PLACE, I BELONG.
this is so freaking cool!
What I would really like to see is a full tutorial on using kOS to do the booster returns and other things. The closest thing I have watched was from cheerskevin but it started out strong, then he left stuff out at the end and so it was incomplete
Really cool!
This is exactly why the space companies should work together.
Blue Origin makes the Lander Basically Blue Moon Crew Version (with help from SpaceX and NASA perhaps)
ULA ACES Upper Stage for the the moon transfer (This stage gas super low boil off, can power istelf with an APU and is very customizable)
SpaceX does the rest (Launches, Spacesuits, Mission Control, Crew Dragon for the Capsule)
Love this stuff
Keep it up
I'm really looking forward to the New Glenn, huge fan of blue origin.
That is just extraordinary. So this is realistic and could happen in the next few years is that correct? It looks beautiful by the way!
I like falcon heavy, but there's a reason the Saturn V, like a lot of people will stay my favorite rocket. Falcon needs three launches to get a moon mission complete, while the Saturn V just one and dones it, much more efficient. But the falcon does have it in reusability.
Thats because the Falcon Heavy wasn't made to go to the moon, the Saturn V was.
Five years latter, we are no closer to landing on the moon, shold have just done this and scrapped Artemis.
You need more subs
Others are working on landers. Partner with them and i don't see why not.
Yes!
All the hard kOS work has all come to this. We've worked super hard on this stuff.
I bet you have, and it is wonderful
You called the side boosters solid boosters at the beginning
Next time fill to 100% and do Droneship landing for the F9. Great video
How would they get the items down from that height ? That truly is "One giant step for mankind " !
Hi marcus what's the mod of the extanding rocket engine of the 3 stage pls let me now.
Watching this 3 years later its crazy to think that we could possibly just use existing hardware to get to the moon. There are a few bugs to work out, like crew dragon not being rated to cross the Van Allen Belts, but I'm sure Spacex could figure it out. NASA however wanted to go a bit bigger and launch SLS and Starship at the same time to land a whole base up there! lol give it to the US government if its not insanely expensive its just not a good solution.
Thanks for the music-less version. I loath videos with music unless it's an actual music video.
Why did you send each segment to lunar orbit, instead of assembling in orbit and having a single transfer stage?
Can you make high thrust booster landing with 3 engines?
And I can only just land on the moon XD. This is insane
9:00 ---> Great job, but why does the ascent stage need the ladder?
I wonder if you could fill the command module to 100% if you had used parachutes instead of superdragos
Thanks for answering that question. What would the cost comparison be?
Very interesting
Will they use the FH they Laibchens First for the second launch?
When i'm good enough at KSP, i'll install all the mods you use
For now i feel i'd just be a waste haha