Top Outboard Motors to avoid and WHY

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Yamaha Mercury Suzuki force Chrysler Evinrude Johnson OMC

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  • @sherinewade
    @sherinewade 7 днів тому +1

    Such great tips, Keith. It's great that you shares disclaimers and cautions about particular brand names, and at the same time, you are still letting the audience know if they still want to purchase, they can, but be careful.
    Yes, I'm realizing just like a car, motorcycle, machines, etc... take that boat out for a test run. I like that saying the person said to you. If something new comes out, he'll allow a few years to go by in order to see how things go. Lol. That can apply to many things in life. Great video as always, Keith!

  • @markbitcon5701
    @markbitcon5701 19 годин тому

    Had a 2004 Mariner 115 Optimax and couldn't fault it . Loved to be run hard and excellent fuel economy .

  • @wayne558
    @wayne558 5 днів тому

    My 97 Mercury 175 EFI ran perfect yesterday at the lake (fishing). Glad my outboard didn't make 'The List' ! Thanks for the info.

  • @ct1762
    @ct1762 7 днів тому +3

    the 1st 18 months of production was a nightmare for OMC and it's FICHT motors, but they wanted ALL those 60 degree powerheads shipped back to the factory for updated ones. all the things you listed had been largely corrected after this. too bad though as it really damaged their reputation. The FORCE motors under Mercury were excellent motors as by 1996 they had merc mids, gearcases, trim and ignitions. only ran until 1999, but the last of the bunch were smooth, quite and easy to work on. I believe Merc did piston and bearing updates as well on most. the 3 cyl merc made 25hp (sold as a Force) is rare, but at only 92lbs, was an absolute rocket! One brand i would say stay away from is any Suzuki DT 2 strokes... not because they weren't excellent motors, because they were, but because parts are not available, people are clueless as to how the simple and reliable oil injection works, and how the sensors work on the digital ignitions. any one of those ignition parts will cost an arm and a leg, and like Yamaha had teething issues throughout. I love the DTV6 motors.... rebuilding a 1986 super six with the dual plug heads as I write this, but not for the weekend mechanic thats for sure!

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  7 днів тому

      @@ct1762 Thank you! Great insight here, I will have to do a follow up video with your comment

  • @MexicoPescadoro
    @MexicoPescadoro 6 днів тому +1

    I'd like to hear your opinion on the legendary OMC JonnyRude Crossflow. I just rebuilt a 1980 Evinrude 140cv. I had a 1995 Evinrude 90cv that ate a ring (or two) lol and I finally had to break down and pull the powerhead. The 79'-98' v4 crossflows were all the same. 100ci. I found a donor motor on FB and got the whole motor for $400. Tore the powerhead down, measured the cylinders (surprisingly in spec) and rebuilt it. I used the 1995 electronics and ignition. 1980 bypass covers for the recirculation system and the 1980 carbs because they had the large bore 1 5/16 with 67c jets. I had to do that because of the bubbleback exhaust. It's basically a 1995 115cv because as you know the horsepower rating changed in the late 80's. Only time will tell how fuel mileage differs. Kind of wish I would have used the flatback exhaust and 90cv carbs. Better fuel consumption. It's a center console fishing boat. I doubt I'll ever get the benefit of the extra 15 horsepower because it's up top at like 5800rpm.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому +1

      @@MexicoPescadoro Yes I love those motors! My first was a 79 Johnson 85 hp ran for 22 yrs

  • @khalidalbagdadymd4081
    @khalidalbagdadymd4081 3 дні тому +1

    thanks for this. Now considering repower with brand new BF250 Honda, any feedback on this outboard? thanks again.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  3 дні тому

      @@khalidalbagdadymd4081 Hey man, I know 2 guys that have those and love them!

  • @josemariatrueba4568
    @josemariatrueba4568 7 днів тому

    I agree.
    Great video, as always!
    One suggestion...
    Could you increase the microphone gain or speak closer to it?
    I can hear you alright, but only if I play your videos at full volume.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  7 днів тому +1

      @@josemariatrueba4568 Yes I am working on that, going to GoPro

  • @barryf5479
    @barryf5479 4 дні тому

    Another one to avoid. McCullough outboards. 75 HP models ran fast when they ran. Three cylinder engines that blew head gaskets frequently. If it lasted long enough, it'd likely throw a rod through the block. Very high compression motors, ran 100:1 oil mixture (yep, that's right). They'd outrun a 90 Johnson which was a heavier engine but again, they frequently self destructed.

  • @leoscomputerandguitarrevie978
    @leoscomputerandguitarrevie978 3 дні тому

    I think any motors earlier than the 1970s should be avoided at all costs.
    I have a 1963 Montgomery ward 6 HP that has the Chrysler parts and I cannot find parts for it anywhere. I bought the motor on a boat 6 years ago and the previous owner said that he had replaced the impeller back in 2016. Today in 2024, the impeller still works, and i pulled the lower unit to look at it, and the impeller still looks ok, but the rubber wings are weak. It still pumps water but has to be at high idle minimum. Low idle, no water moves at all. It also backfires at time's even when the carb is properly adjusted. Compression is at 65 psi so im thinking that the motor doesnt have much time left anyway. No marine shop in my area is interested in working on it, so probably will run it till it dies.
    Also had a 1955 johnson that ran great till the lower unit seized up. A seal went bad and water got up into the lower unit with the oil. Also couldn't find parts anywhere, but the impeller was still in great shape. Motor had a lot of backfiring but its a result of one of the cylinders having 50 psi and the other had 75 psi.
    If i buy a used motor, probably wont go any older than early 90s. I really like the older Mercurys.
    Although its really nice to see some outboards last 50+ years. Especially if the maintenance is done.
    I bought a Hangkai 6 HP outboard on ebay. Cheap motor, but im curious to see how long it lasts.

  • @bobmcglothlin1562
    @bobmcglothlin1562 21 годину тому

    How do I go about getting one of your books Sir?

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  21 годину тому

      @@bobmcglothlin1562 Email me at keith@outboarddad.com

  • @Ray-hj5cc
    @Ray-hj5cc 6 днів тому

    Hi Keith, how do I go about getting one of those books you offered, Thanks!

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому +1

      @@Ray-hj5cc Thanks just email me keith@outboarddad.com

  • @bobmcglothlin1562
    @bobmcglothlin1562 21 годину тому

    What brand of motor do you recommend?

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  21 годину тому +1

      @@bobmcglothlin1562 That’s a trick question. As long as the motor has been properly maintained and all checks out following the guide most motors are fine. If I was looking for two stroke older motors I like yamaha because of their oil injection system.

  • @volunteermaupi4809
    @volunteermaupi4809 5 днів тому

    the first generation VRO from OMC took out allot of connecting rod bearings

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  5 днів тому +1

      @@volunteermaupi4809 Indeed, and OMC did not have a fix, just kept sending out faulty pumps

  • @mcplutt
    @mcplutt 6 днів тому +2

    Volvo Penta bought Seven Marine in 2017 and put them out of business in 2020.

  • @AbbyNormalGarage
    @AbbyNormalGarage 6 днів тому +1

    At least he didn’t say Mercury tower of power or johnrude Xflow v4

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому +2

      @@AbbyNormalGarage Love those motors!

    • @shawnwalsh5430
      @shawnwalsh5430 4 дні тому +1

      The Tower of Power! Yes....

    • @vandos11
      @vandos11 4 дні тому

      Tower of power forever

  • @eppsteacher
    @eppsteacher 7 днів тому

    Very useful

  • @tiemanmalcolm
    @tiemanmalcolm 5 днів тому

    Where can I get a copy of that book please?

    • @tiemanmalcolm
      @tiemanmalcolm 5 днів тому

      I just subscribed 😊

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  4 дні тому

      @@tiemanmalcolm Just email me keith@outboarddad.com and I will send it to you in a pdf. Thanks for subscribing!

  • @Lazybones52
    @Lazybones52 5 днів тому

    My 1994 mercury 200 offshore is still screaming also but inhales gas

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  5 днів тому

      @@Lazybones52 Yes the suck it down!

  • @Lazybones52
    @Lazybones52 5 днів тому

    My ficht is powerful and economical! 2001

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  5 днів тому

      @@Lazybones52 It’s amazing when you hear people say they are all garbage

  • @DanVanDorn
    @DanVanDorn 4 дні тому

    What about the middle 90s 90°V block 4 cylinder OMC motors??? I would love to find a Loop charged 140 with the big v6 gearcase.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  4 дні тому

      @@DanVanDorn I have one, where are you located?

    • @DanVanDorn
      @DanVanDorn 4 дні тому

      @OutboardDad I am in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It will be next May before I can spend money on it but I am definitely interested. I just went threw a nasty divorce so my money situation right now is not good. But next May I will have access to my savings .
      I have a 2000 Tracker Tournament V18 with a early 70s 115 Johnson motor that I'd love to swap out for a good loop charged 140.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  4 дні тому

      @@DanVanDorn OK, send me an email and I will send you my used outboard buying guide. Keith@outboarddad.con

    • @DanVanDorn
      @DanVanDorn 4 дні тому

      @@OutboardDad Tell me about the Loop Charged OMC 140 that you have.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  4 дні тому

      @@DanVanDorn I actually have a 150 for sale. It’s a 60 degree 1995 with new water pump, trim seals, lower unit oil and plugs. Email me and I can send you pics keith@outboarddad.com

  • @williamestep4103
    @williamestep4103 6 днів тому

    Tohatsu ?

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому

      @@williamestep4103 Good point, only worked in a few and all ran well. Will have to do a follow up video

  • @charlesdriggers199
    @charlesdriggers199 5 днів тому +1

    7 Marine only went out of business because Volvo killed it.

  • @robertmoody2221
    @robertmoody2221 4 дні тому

    It’s not the motors fault it malfunctions it’s the owners who never maintain them.

  • @donaldweishaupt6255
    @donaldweishaupt6255 7 днів тому

    Force stand for F------G old Rebuilt Chrysler Engine

  • @randymiller5008
    @randymiller5008 5 днів тому

    Never buy Force or Evinrude anything. Ever 💯

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  5 днів тому

      @@randymiller5008 Thanks for the comment

  • @livangil
    @livangil 6 днів тому +1

    He forgot to mention the Yamaha 250hp and up hpdi worse motor ever

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому

      @@livangil Thank you, your right, will have to do a follow up video

    • @sjs11585
      @sjs11585 6 днів тому +1

      My 2004 250 HPDI is at 1500 hours and counting

  • @jeffreybodine2897
    @jeffreybodine2897 6 днів тому +8

    Top motors to avoid ? Anything made in the last 20 years ... its all a endless garbage money pit .... for what they cost , its a joke ... Four strokes ? Meh , heavy and slow and way too much tech to just spin a propeller and when they go boom , just junk it ....All my old JohnnyRudes from the 70s run like a top still but you have to maintain them . yeh , they suck fuel like mad , but they will get you home ... means more to me when your out on the water ... easy to rebuild too , plenty of parts second hand to choose from

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому

      @@jeffreybodine2897 Thank you Jeff! Love your input

    • @AdventuresOutdoors
      @AdventuresOutdoors 6 днів тому +6

      Boat/motor owner for 45 years. I feel the newer motors have been more reliable for me. My current motor has 700+ hours and never anything more than standard oil changes and a new water pump impeller now and then.

    • @AdventuresOutdoors
      @AdventuresOutdoors 6 днів тому +5

      Oh… and fuel economy… I get better fuel economy with my 150hp than I did with a 20hp from the late 70s and with no oil to breathe.

    • @OutboardDad
      @OutboardDad  6 днів тому +1

      @@AdventuresOutdoors Thank you

    • @paulm7448
      @paulm7448 6 днів тому +6

      ​@@AdventuresOutdoors I'd have over 5000 hours on a Tohatsu mfs40 and over 1000 hours on an mfs50. Neither has missed a beat, both start with ease any time. I'd never have a 2 stroke again.

  • @sportsmancraft1
    @sportsmancraft1 2 дні тому

    Yamaha sumps are nla.