The TRAGIC Rise and Fall of Victoria's Secret

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    Victoria's Secret has long been one of the most prominent retail brands, renowned for its iconic fashion shows that defined an era. However, the brand's influence has waned in recent years. Why has this happened? In this video, we will explore the rise, fall, and resurgence of Victoria's Secret.
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  • @nekochan-xr7yp
    @nekochan-xr7yp Місяць тому +386

    Heidi Klum said she was the only model that was excited to wear Victoria's secret's big wings, because it actually was harder to wear the bigger, much heavier wings on top of having to balance in heels on the runway

    • @Elina--
      @Elina-- Місяць тому +35

      I can imagine they were soooo heavy

    • @BlondeeBombshell
      @BlondeeBombshell Місяць тому +19

      @@Elina-- the runway was also slippery also!

  • @MsEgomaniaac
    @MsEgomaniaac Місяць тому +180

    We don’t talk enough about Toni’s beauty. She’s actually mesmerising 😍

    • @azandeaugust479
      @azandeaugust479 Місяць тому +19

      She's gorgeous I can't get enough of her face ❤

    • @Layla-fl1yl
      @Layla-fl1yl Місяць тому +8

      Yes natural beauty 🥹

    • @FollowPickMeekPodcast
      @FollowPickMeekPodcast Місяць тому

      I do all the time. Sis is just the black Barbie! ❤

  • @Jayjay_07
    @Jayjay_07 Місяць тому +555

    It's almost like people have realized that the show is not responsible for their insecurities

  • @adreena456
    @adreena456 Місяць тому +255

    Miranda Kerr’s diet is the saddest thing I’ve ever heard

    • @Spac3bab3
      @Spac3bab3 28 днів тому +3

      I remember always seeing her on tumblr and wishing I looked like her

  • @amaraa6367
    @amaraa6367 Місяць тому +232

    Growing up, I naturally looked similar to Victoria Secret models. I am tall and slim. I did not starve myself. I was involved in sports, but never worked out outside of them. As we all know women’s bodies are trends, and when the trend started to shift to curvy I got severely bullied for my appearance. Victoria Secret never had a negative impact on me, because I looked similarly. Instagram models on the other hand impacted me significantly. As someone who looks similar to Victoria Secret standards, I do NOT want it to come back. Diversity is SO important. Young girls need to see themselves portrayed, whether they look like a VS model or a Fenti model. As you said at the end, I also think a big part of people wanting it to come back is because the trend is starting to shift back to skinny. As well as people being tired of the extremes of people pushing diversity in everything, but I truly believe when it comes to women’s bodies diversity is a must for young girls development. You can have an elite group of models who are other worldly beautiful, while still portraying many body types.

    • @thehamsterarmy2380
      @thehamsterarmy2380 Місяць тому +22

      im so happy skinny is back. Maybe brands will start making clothes for women smaller than a size 2-4. i can never find anything growing up always being a size 0. as a black girl, i was forcefed, and beaten for not being able to eat much. my nickname was bones, skinnyminnie, and my uncles still shame my body to point i cry. I've stopped trying so hard to gain weight, Ive never starved myself, never been unhealthy but being the only skinny black girl was tough growing up. i hate seeing how so many are trying to erase thin women from media and automatically claim that being thin is wrong as well...so while i want skinny tobe back, i do definitely agree diversity is needed. skinny girls didnt disappear on the past decade and a half of bbls and curvy being in. i don't think skinny is an extreme though, though diversity is the perfect balance. i do like how dolls are having more diverse body types.

    • @twicekpopertrash8685
      @twicekpopertrash8685 Місяць тому

      And all that doesnt matter if ur not white it doesnt matter if u pretty skin my naiome campel if ur not white doesnt matter

    • @I-m.Just.a.Girl_
      @I-m.Just.a.Girl_ Місяць тому +3

      me too

    • @nagisa9147
      @nagisa9147 Місяць тому +4

      @@thehamsterarmy2380 You seem pretty young. Your family and peers are dead wrong for commenting on your body like that, and the black community has always been horrible about treating skinny girls badly. I grew on the "stout" side, and people would comment about me "looking grown" or fat, or any other inappropriate terms. As I grew in height, I became athletic, but faced lots of weight fluctuations due to hormones. I just had to learn to accept myself in all forms. The only way to escape this is to not fall victim to the trends, because as soon as skinny comes back it will be gone again. Sending huge amounts of love for you!

    • @jennymurs88
      @jennymurs88 Місяць тому +1

      But you have to be aware that you can't be included in everything.... we can have both victoria 's Secret and fenty models.... I personally I like to see both. So I can be aspire by whatever I feel like I can achieve....
      I don't like body inclusively cause it looks forced. Not everyone are beautiful and that's OK.

  • @FieldTrip-sp7rl
    @FieldTrip-sp7rl Місяць тому +353

    as a highschooler, skinny is definitely back. i personally believe that it’s back because later gen z grew up in a time where calorie deficit was encouraged rather than starving yourself and using cr4ck. another reason why is the fashion changes. the “pilates mom” and “y2k” aesthetic are really coming back.

    • @PorscheF
      @PorscheF Місяць тому +5

      Okay?

    • @FieldTrip-sp7rl
      @FieldTrip-sp7rl Місяць тому +43

      @@PorscheF i’m giving a reason as to why more people want to see skinny models if you aren’t contributing the the conversation then your comment was unnecessary

    • @ms.ferretmanthing2404
      @ms.ferretmanthing2404 Місяць тому +23

      ​@@FieldTrip-sp7rl yup, totally unnecessary, just ignore some people can't help but be an ssa.

    • @thehamsterarmy2380
      @thehamsterarmy2380 Місяць тому +6

      im so happy it is back. Maybe brands will start making clothes for women smaller than a size 2-4. i can never find anything growing up always being a size 0

    • @twicekpopertrash8685
      @twicekpopertrash8685 Місяць тому +4

      Its a white world

  • @michellehuxtable5720
    @michellehuxtable5720 Місяць тому +15

    As someone who works in marketing, I've come to realise that consumer thinking has changed over the last couple decades. People were fine not being in the target market of marketing but would still buy the products. Now people are offended that they are not in the target market of marketing and then they become the target market and still don't buy the product.

    • @michellehuxtable5720
      @michellehuxtable5720 Місяць тому +4

      Exclusivity is it's own thing.

    • @kadi9275
      @kadi9275 10 днів тому +5

      BINGO ! This!… i have been saying this since victory secret was on the decline. People were so hell bent on try to change a brand that was not meant for them

  • @tanyamavs
    @tanyamavs Місяць тому +166

    I love how you theme your outfits according to your videos it’s so cute 😚

  • @jennifercromwell2497
    @jennifercromwell2497 Місяць тому +1089

    Don’t ever put Kendal Jenner and super model in the same sentence ever again😭

  • @RedDeadReverie
    @RedDeadReverie Місяць тому +125

    I don’t think most women cared what the models looked like to the point they needed to be “perfect”. We just wanted pretty underwear 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @chelseashamim9148
    @chelseashamim9148 Місяць тому +137

    Fenty savage x did what Victoria secret could not. Diverse bodys + fashion

    • @Jayjay_07
      @Jayjay_07 Місяць тому +26

      Calling Fenty fashion is the reach of the century. It's shein level of fashion

    • @JaeElise
      @JaeElise Місяць тому +13

      as a Rihanna fan, im very disappointed in her makeup and fashion line lately, the quality diminished. My VS bras lasted longer than my savage. it's heartbreaking to say. including her makeup, I've tried it again last week. not impressed. mind you im a MUA, as well. I think VS definitely has better quality just prices need to be more affordable.

    • @yueuphoria8952
      @yueuphoria8952 Місяць тому +9

      Savage x Fenty is fast fashion shit made in terrible condiitons, lol

    • @MPPG663
      @MPPG663 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Jayjay_07 Exactly

    • @twicekpopertrash8685
      @twicekpopertrash8685 Місяць тому +2

      Not just the body but riahnna always puts black woman as her prioity

  • @Tip1315
    @Tip1315 Місяць тому +61

    I’m 36 and never knew Kendall was a VS model.

  • @woahaah6326
    @woahaah6326 Місяць тому +110

    I sort of dislike that people seem to gloss over their downfall as the audience being “insecure”. If anything the audience wanted VS to be inclusive in store. The way they treated the models and the BTS scandal is what brought their downfall. Nobody is actually expecting/canceling high brands (like Versace ) to be body inclusive. We have accepted their requirements.
    Their rebrand to include plus size models failed because they put no effort in the materials and removed the original wings, shine and glitter.

    • @sarhahillsburg5142
      @sarhahillsburg5142 Місяць тому +7

      This so true. If they put as much into the more inclusive sized modles as they did for the angels in the height of their popularity it would have been amazing. 😢 But I guess was naive to think they would. Should have known they'd make.it as scrappy as possible so they can make false narrative to never do it again as they blame us

    • @S_C_Mel
      @S_C_Mel Місяць тому +3

      I think they did it on purpose. It's a fashion brand, they knew eventually the standards will be going back.

  • @MPPG663
    @MPPG663 Місяць тому +24

    I'm glad VS initially stood on business.
    I'd cancel everything instead of bending to appeal to the masses.
    Bring the OLD fashion show back.

  • @jcstylez215
    @jcstylez215 Місяць тому +86

    girl, i am so ready for fall and winter like so over summer here in Philly

    • @Izzy-bt9lo
      @Izzy-bt9lo Місяць тому +4

      Kansas is 94 today 😭

    • @breyannab._
      @breyannab._ Місяць тому +3

      I live in south Florida so it feels like summer all year round but I’m sick of this humidity 😭

  • @MathSparkles
    @MathSparkles Місяць тому +54

    What was amazing about VS in the 90s (in my opinion) was that the women were just exceptionally beautiful SUPERMODELS. They were fit, slim, but not unbelievably so. They did have brown skin models. The women looked late 20's early 30's. There was something so alluring and slightly mysterious about it and even the models. Then the models became rail thin, looked like typical editorial models, and for me...VS lost it's essence. It will never happen but I would love to see a VS show like in the 90's with a normal looking runway, and stunning models in amazingly designed classic beautiful lingerie that look both healthy but amazing, not the overdone with the celebrity singers and all the confetti and 'edgy' looking pieces that I would never buy, personally. But I don't think that is the direction most women would want to see...I don't have a problem with the show coming back as it was though, it just never interested me or made we want to buy anything lol. Also in the 90s the lingerie looked high quality. Now, in some of the still shots of the recent shows, the pieces look like cheap ill fitting polyester. But it's been a LONG time since VS was a quality true lingerie brand, it's just a typical fast fashion brand now.

  • @peachycute3034
    @peachycute3034 Місяць тому +23

    There biggest downfall was thinking the problem was their marketing when it's really their commercial products the lingerie is meh, the basics sre terrible and the fantasy stuff is out of most people's price range their beauty and accessories range is what's holding the place together

  • @Jelibeliwelineli
    @Jelibeliwelineli Місяць тому +28

    Aw the little cat in the background was so cute

  • @xoxonechelle
    @xoxonechelle Місяць тому +43

    i hate to admit that all my underwear is victoria secret😭but one because their cotton ones are super good

    • @agsweet708
      @agsweet708 Місяць тому +1

      Same. Most of my bras are VS

  • @lachell257
    @lachell257 Місяць тому +16

    VS should have stayed true to their core audience. I'm not skinny but I love the outfits and the dreamy aspect. They let the internet change them.

  • @kinkykoils6176
    @kinkykoils6176 Місяць тому +11

    To add to the conversation the biggest complaints i heard about VS was the pricing did not match the quality , non existent DD+ range. I couldn't afford VS growing up and when i finally had the funds the first bra i bought fell apart after the first wash and that was it for me.

  • @nekochan-xr7yp
    @nekochan-xr7yp Місяць тому +143

    Sometimes when I go shopping and I see a cute top with long sleeves on the rack, I have to stop myself from getting excited, because I know when I actually check it out it's going to be cropped. I hate this trend, I HATE CROP TOPS

    • @HoneyLemonMelon
      @HoneyLemonMelon Місяць тому +36

      FR i don't wanna pay 15-30$ for a third of a shirt 😭

    • @KdotStew
      @KdotStew Місяць тому +6

      Girl! Me too. Then I see my teenage daughters wear that dumb look and my hatred gets worse. So I make them change

    • @peppapig-vw3zr
      @peppapig-vw3zr Місяць тому +29

      @@KdotStewur weird for that tf

    • @shamiram1111
      @shamiram1111 Місяць тому +7

      OMG fr every shirt is cropped right now!!!

    • @HoneyLemonMelon
      @HoneyLemonMelon Місяць тому +8

      @@peppapig-vw3zr considering the fact that they're teenagers, aka minors, I'd say her feelings are valid, because no GOOD mother is gonna want their daughters to be in danger of creeps

  • @irlanesaintcyr
    @irlanesaintcyr Місяць тому +28

    girl, you are TEW cute in that angel costumeee

  • @aftertaste05
    @aftertaste05 Місяць тому +5

    I think Victoria’s Secret should bring the show back. It represented the onset of the holiday season. The criticisms were comfort and inclusivity…not sexiness. Every woman of every color and size who has a love interest wants to look sexy at some point in their lives. What Victoria’s Secret failed to do is make the fantasy achievable for every woman. We want glamor and seduction, just make it inclusive. Tall beautiful women of different sizes, ethnicities, and ages. And spend the money on materials and wiring to make things more comfortable.

  • @donnetta117
    @donnetta117 Місяць тому +66

    Nostalgia 4Ever! 😇
    I would absolutely LOVE for the V.S. Fashion Show to come back.
    It was a big deal for my friends and I and none of us were under size 10. 🤷🏽‍♀️ We would take that night off work, order food and make a fun night of it. None of us wanted the 'supermodel bodies' and we were diverse in race, body types and skin tone... we were more concerned with collecting the Angel Robes, lol.
    Listen, to me, the show was fun, the music was great and the atmosphere was just feminine and flirty. I don't rely on outside sources for my self-esteem so it never really bothered me in that manner.
    Also, the sale after the show was a thrifty girl's dream.😊
    There's space for Fenty Fashion Show and Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.
    I enjoyed them both.
    Yes, Bring it back.

    • @Dee___..
      @Dee___.. Місяць тому +5

      Omg! Same. I miss collecting the robes too.

    • @donnetta117
      @donnetta117 Місяць тому +1

      @@Dee___.. Absolutely.😀

    • @kikivee2498
      @kikivee2498 Місяць тому +1

      Bring it back

  • @Jesswatchtheseries
    @Jesswatchtheseries Місяць тому +70

    I was obsessed with the VS fashion shows!! I would turn CBS on in a heart beat and be glued to the tv!! Personally not everything needs diversity. VS was successful due to the INTENDED AUDIENCE. Including diversity was a huge mistake imo. Im completely fine with not fitting the VS aesthetic. The inspiration and the sexiness was good enough for me!

    • @youremaddumb
      @youremaddumb Місяць тому

      exactly being inclusive was antithesis to their entire brand. like i'm mot aspiring to look like people i see everyday like where's the fantasy in that ? 😭💀

    • @MPPG663
      @MPPG663 Місяць тому +5

      Same!!!!

    • @leftyys1fan676
      @leftyys1fan676 Місяць тому +4

      exactly, people r just so butthurt

    • @DaintyAbby
      @DaintyAbby Місяць тому +1

      THIS.

  • @chocolithoney
    @chocolithoney Місяць тому +38

    Great observation. Skinny is back in so Victoria Secret is coming back as well. Hey everyone love yourself and be your own person 🫶🏾

  • @jennymurs88
    @jennymurs88 Місяць тому +9

    I understand about having models from different races as you cannot change your race. However, when it comes to body shape. It is supposed to be fantasy and hard to achieve thats what made them unique. Everyone wanted to be victoria secret models. Working toward it. I dont agree on body diversity, and then it's no longer a fantasy it just becomes normal.

    • @aravindrenmahenthiran6258
      @aravindrenmahenthiran6258 21 день тому

      They literally starve themselves nothing should be admirable and fantasy about that if you think that’s fantasy your disgusting

  • @Angie33084
    @Angie33084 Місяць тому +10

    Yes! Bring my back! As an elder millennial, I lived for this shit. I loved watching it every year. The glitz, the confidence, the sexiness! I miss it 😢

  • @Kinsale101
    @Kinsale101 Місяць тому +28

    This is a very unpopular opinion of mine. I dont think VS shouldn't have stopped their fashion show. Because of their stubbornness, we got Fenty fashion shows. VS is iconic in their own way and so is Fenty.

  • @Oniki382
    @Oniki382 Місяць тому +3

    I think they heard “oh, diversity?” and thought that was synonymous with a lack of fantasy/glamour. You can have models with healthy eating habits, different complexions, and different body types while still glamorizing them and making them look like traditional VS models. I think the brand just gave up on trying

  • @nuuuutlllll
    @nuuuutlllll Місяць тому +16

    Idk as asian girl, the beauty standard wayy worse worse nowadays than VS era as the same as the skin color inclusive issue or body image. So if the downfall of vs abt inclusive and body image, i cannot relate. Because i think the biggest influence of this pressure is our society itself. Also as a genz even when vs didn’t create any fashion show anymore, the hype was very low, the toxic beauty standards still exist and getting crazier on the internet. Everything gonna lead to how you controll your self love over your body, you can like and being amazed by models. But at the end of the day you can choose what bikinis/lingerie suits you the most. Since so many video of body positivity like “you can still be confidence wearing this kind of clothes” etc. Furthermore seeing VS has trying to expand their size range now, i think it’s not only abt how the brand take a note from their target audience. But we as a women ourselves should take it wisely, they could be inspire you not controlling you. What i like the most of vs angels back then was their confidence, the way adriana lima said she isn’t afraid of aging and her positive energy radiates on the runaway. CONFIDENCE. Women values more than visual aspects, let’s remember that and seeing things differently this time. Being skinny is hard, as the same as being in medium size/plus size. Being a women always been hard in every aspect. Let’s not be influenced so much by brand identity and beauty standards.

  • @SunnieLens
    @SunnieLens Місяць тому +5

    Honestly at the time I wood watch VS, I didn’t care that most of the women were white or that they were skinny. I just like being entertained and seeing the beautiful concepts. I wish VS wouldn’t have felt pressured to change. It wasn’t necessary in my opinion to be inclusive.

  • @reneethemuse
    @reneethemuse Місяць тому +41

    Really off topic but, can you start a Christian Girl Advice Column with like bible verses that relate. I wanna write in and ask for advice.

    • @MPPG663
      @MPPG663 Місяць тому +5

      The Bible is definitely definitely transformative.
      Unfortunately, social media influencers sharing quotes doesn't often translate well into real life application.

    • @lowkey_babe77
      @lowkey_babe77 29 днів тому

      @@MPPG663well said

  • @chxrry_ii2945
    @chxrry_ii2945 Місяць тому +11

    Love you and your content! Thank god people like you exist. 😄please keep doing what you do.

  • @candicepetgrave3147
    @candicepetgrave3147 28 днів тому +2

    Just want to say ! Your verse of the day made me pause this video listen to this song about two times . One of my fav prayer songs from my childhood, so powerful. Thank you . New subscriber just for that ! Thank you!

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  12 днів тому

      Wow, thank you! I’m sooo glad it spoke to you, this is exactly why I put them in my videos.

  • @muffymariah2889
    @muffymariah2889 Місяць тому +12

    I’ve been hooked on Skims, I haven’t worn VS since high school(2012). I think the bedazzled, logo print, matchy sets was their niche. Now it’s more about the “aesthetic” brands like Lulu Lemon, Fabletics, White Fox, etc.
    Love your videos, as always 🌻

  • @evawilson4357
    @evawilson4357 Місяць тому +32

    You look so beautiful Toni 🥺🫶🏾

  • @leas7830
    @leas7830 Місяць тому +21

    Anok Yai as an engel would break the Internet 🤩

  • @Beinthesky
    @Beinthesky Місяць тому +4

    OMG GIRL YOU ARE ALMOST AT 300k .. you are DOING IT 🎉

  • @Ashisnotashamed
    @Ashisnotashamed Місяць тому +5

    When they started putting boys in the “pink” clothing I was done with them. I think it was last year or the year before that when that happened

  • @AminahMight
    @AminahMight Місяць тому +51

    I’m ready for it to come back. Victorias Secret was supposed to be a freaking fantasy, it wasn’t made to be attainable.

    • @bubblegumbitch2191
      @bubblegumbitch2191 Місяць тому +2

      But I don’t think that it is aspirational the way it used to be it’s rightfully criticised for being and propping up a certain dated kind of beauty and I’m happy we have moved on from it and become more inclusive

    • @youremaddumb
      @youremaddumb Місяць тому

      exactly. not everything has to be diverse. like no one's aspiring to be fat nor do most people think it's sexy. 😭

    • @annasshitdump
      @annasshitdump Місяць тому +1

      @@youremaddumb
      They are literally turning away from what the people actually want, I feel like they need a WHOLE new team

    • @SunshineBarbie-sv4bi
      @SunshineBarbie-sv4bi Місяць тому +1

      Exactly I can’t think of anyone who fantasizes about being morbidly obese and average looking

  • @naomysuarez8157
    @naomysuarez8157 Місяць тому +5

    its a good day when toni post

  • @kharikhy-ree2242
    @kharikhy-ree2242 Місяць тому +40

    Gen Z destroyed my coveted Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. I religiously watched from 2005-2017. 2005 Victoria's Secret Fashion Show was my favorite of all time. Fenty could never! "Yes I'm problematic on this issue, and I don't care". 😅 It was my personal Christmas Present🎄. They had the BEST MUSIC REMIXES. Bring Back The Skinny Legends 🎉❤

    • @itshouldvebeenthanos201
      @itshouldvebeenthanos201 Місяць тому +10

      How did gen z destroyed that when the reason why vs shows are cancelled is cause it’s problematic. Starving the models til they didn’t have their period anymore they were unhealthy just for the sake of men’s eyes and the owner of VS participated in sex trafficking and made transphobic comments + let’s not forget ab Epstein and him faking VS shows audition and the owner of VS being aware of it. Also if women aka the targeted audience started talking shit ab vs shows it’s because of the body positive movement created by gen X

    • @Chihro-Chan
      @Chihro-Chan Місяць тому +2

      This is such a wierd thing to say

    • @addwasabitomycoffee
      @addwasabitomycoffee 27 днів тому +2

      What a weird opinion 😂 how is genz responsible for something problematic getting cancelled, it's not like we're the only target audience for them

  • @KdotStew
    @KdotStew Місяць тому +4

    Anyway girl I dun I how I came across your channel but you're so educated, professional, beautiful, and just so cute. I'm 40 and girl I be looking forward to your show. You did great with your entire channel. I love the professionalism, honesty, and knowledge. Your education shines and you do your homework. Go head girl. I hope my teenage daughters grow to be professional and profitable and still likeable like you. Child yyyaaaaaaasssssss!!!

  • @MPPG663
    @MPPG663 Місяць тому +25

    Skinny never went anywhere.
    People just wanted to pretend they were comfortable and happy being fat.
    Those same loud voices regarding fat-acceptance are older and feeling the strain on their knees.

  • @Urfav_Lovex
    @Urfav_Lovex Місяць тому +6

    The thing that I don’t like about some Modeling agencies is they will put people in categories for example they were put plus size women in one category altogether, and they will put white women or all black women in one category

  • @iwanttoswimintheswanepoel
    @iwanttoswimintheswanepoel Місяць тому +4

    i really feel like victoria’s secret can return to its peak if they give us the old glitz and glam not just in stores but also bring the old show back. as well as lessening the nepo baby models i feel like because of the nepo babies taking over the brand as a whole was taken less seriously. this whole rebrand is so bland.

  • @montsemoon2680
    @montsemoon2680 Місяць тому +9

    GIRL BRING EM BACK!
    i loved the VS fashion shows mostly because of the lingerie itself. I didn’t want to be like the models... i wanted to wear what they wore

  • @lauraallen661
    @lauraallen661 Місяць тому +7

    Can we not ever have a happy medium?? Nobody is ever satisfied & we are constantly swinging this never-ending pendulum back & forth, going from one extreme to the next & back again.
    "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." We NEVER learn!!
    And that weight loss drug that everybody is on has some horrible possible side effects. There's no telling what kind of health issues we're gonna start seeing 10, 20, 30 years from now from that ish....

  • @oliviaelliston786
    @oliviaelliston786 Місяць тому +6

    calling Victoria's Secret affordable is crazy.

  • @samiliciou_s
    @samiliciou_s Місяць тому +6

    I LOVEEE!! THE vs fashion show! And I would always watch the auditions on TV for the runway as well! I'm an aspiring model hopefully you'll see me walk in vs or fenty someday!

  • @MsCentenoe1
    @MsCentenoe1 Місяць тому +10

    I'm older than you, and you're neglecting that the quality went down and the prices went up..... the target audience is American women that average a size 14... being inclusive increased their sales.... if they bring it back, it will have to have a more diverse range of models. The customers spending money don't want to be ignored. Another thing being overlooked is the importance of online sales.... fenty is a huge competitor, but they haven't come close to VS market share... Everyone is shopping online after covid, the options open up tremendously for a range of needs previously ignored by VS.. larger bands, bigger cups, better designs, and competitive prices....VS used to be a female right of passage ... everything else in most malls was aimed at old ladies.. but today's VS isn't the same experience. They have Pink going against Aeri. All the perfumes and body care competing with bath and body works and higher end fragrance . BODY for those seeking comfort and other lines for more sex appeal. Another smart decision was partnership with smaller brands... these are changes helping to increase thier profits and they would be foolish to bring the same old show

  • @Itssparkledarling
    @Itssparkledarling Місяць тому +3

    Hi beautiful loving this look 😍😍😍 great video had no idea about how Victoria Secret got started but dang rest in peace to him

  • @honorablelilme
    @honorablelilme Місяць тому +5

    I honestly miss the old Victoria Secret and the quality of their items. I also love the fact of going into a store trying on and bring home my items same day. I personally don't like the quality and prints of savage fenty. I only liked the size inclusion and diversity. I personally didn't have a issue with Victoria Secrats sizing but have friends who did.

  • @Floof_er
    @Floof_er 24 дні тому

    Yes, Ma'am. As soon as I heard "Psalms", I ran out of my kitchen to rewind, and rewatch. You are so real. :)

  • @valeriediaz188
    @valeriediaz188 Місяць тому +3

    Your speech is so eloquent ❤ love it!

  • @ItsN3rdz
    @ItsN3rdz Місяць тому +5

    Liking this video bc the outfit is outfitting
    I’m at the end of the video and I don’t speak for everyone when I say I want the VS fashion show with women of all colors and natural hair.

  • @peonypetals8952
    @peonypetals8952 Місяць тому +3

    Not drinking water before going on stage is the same thing bodybuilders do before going on stage.

  • @alma_1906
    @alma_1906 Місяць тому +1

    I like that you told the full story of Roy. When youtubers make deep dive videos of Victoria Secret they never pay their respects for Roy, the man that really started the business. 😢

  • @Ihavemadeit999
    @Ihavemadeit999 Місяць тому +1

    I love how you're always dressing up as your topic😭such a unique thing about you

  • @insomniac1437
    @insomniac1437 Місяць тому +3

    i think that the shows won't be as "good" as they were before, even if they did have the skinny models back. we tend to romanticize the past so much, without realizing how terrible the conditions were, or without realizing that it really wasn't all that. if you want to fantasize about being a 2000s vic secret model, you can do it by all means. decorate your room, watch the past shows, follow their phony diet and exercise tips. delude yourself if it makes you happy.

    • @l4dychristina
      @l4dychristina Місяць тому

      Models, Victoria secret atleast are supposed to have UNNATTAINABLE bodies, Times have changed, People no longer starve themselves, Most just workout twice a day and diet.

    • @insomniac1437
      @insomniac1437 Місяць тому

      @@l4dychristina yeah

  • @annah.3726
    @annah.3726 Місяць тому

    amazing video and I’m actually glad this time that the history does the circle, cause VS Fashion Shows were absolutely magical and I miss that

  • @gigiC144
    @gigiC144 Місяць тому +2

    Btw, heavy metal detox smoothie can be a filling breakfast. I put at least 4 ripe bananas, 1 orange, wild blueberry juice, cilantro, barley grass juice powder, spirulina, and Atlantic dulse. The smoothie is not for weight loss, it’s filling and for detox. Also, lots of people are drinking that have chronic illness primarily. Also, lemon water and celery juice are healing too, not weight loss.
    In case anyone is curious as to why detox heavy metals. They are everywhere in pesticides, fragrances, pharmaceuticals, in air pollution, tap water, etc. As humanity collects more of them, notice how mental health issues and chronic illness are on the rise. Learn more from any Medical Medium book like Cleanse to Heal.

  • @sAv_Doll
    @sAv_Doll Місяць тому +6

    Was love pink the “comfy” side of VS or was it separate?!

    • @BlondeeBombshell
      @BlondeeBombshell Місяць тому +1

      it was targeted for teenagers an young woman

  • @brionyyoutube
    @brionyyoutube 17 днів тому +1

    I'm so glad they're bringing back the beautiful models because VS advertising campaigns have been so ugly for the last few years and I don't want to buy lingerie that makes me feel like it'll make me look ugly too

  • @cinnamonmocha2
    @cinnamonmocha2 Місяць тому

    Omg i was just thinking of this the other day! I miss the old Victoria secret so much! I remember watching the old shows and how the glitz and glamour of it all was just so inspiring to me. I felt so confident seeing different beautiful women from around the world. I feel like modern society and politics stripped us from that magic.

  • @lachell257
    @lachell257 Місяць тому +2

    I remember seeing some of those VS models talking about how they eat fst food and stuff. But I knew it wasn't realistic based on their sizes.

  • @jasmineyoungblood
    @jasmineyoungblood Місяць тому +2

    Great video, Toni!

  • @JenELeeP1
    @JenELeeP1 Місяць тому +2

    I miss the fashion show. I wouldn’t ever be able to participate 😅 but I loved watching!! Today in 2024 PINK is still a must stop at the mall, but now for my teen daughter.

  • @Ririland-official
    @Ririland-official Місяць тому +5

    I still want to be a Victoria Secret model😂😂😂

  • @MakaykayLAMB
    @MakaykayLAMB Місяць тому +4

    Also, WHO HAD ACCESS to the lingerie that the angels wore? None of that stuff was available to us. Lbvs.

  • @laedollchick
    @laedollchick Місяць тому +1

    When I was in high school, I bought VS religiously as well as PINK. As I got older, I gained weight and realized that in order to get a bigger bra from VS I had to always order it with an associate and have it delivered to my home. After doing that quite a bit, I gave up shopping there. Last year I decided to give VS another chance since they were catering towards bigger women and I bought a bra. After one wash it ripped. I’ve never had that happen to a VS bra before, so perhaps the quality has also gone down.

  • @Zoey-tp1ni
    @Zoey-tp1ni Місяць тому +2

    This is crazy also I love the outfit it’s so cute❤

  • @tshepison8907
    @tshepison8907 Місяць тому +9

    People defo want what they can’t have. It’s a bit confusing how people want what they cancelled back. Not surprising how the “skinny is back” has been on a rise these last couple of years.

  • @jenbunny1984
    @jenbunny1984 23 дні тому

    I’m a fall girl!! Ready for the fall!! 🍁🍂

  • @_KrystalAlexis
    @_KrystalAlexis 9 днів тому

    I love the change of the models. It really affected me when I was young. They could have kept the show and the theme will all sizes.

  • @nthabisengbuthelezi177
    @nthabisengbuthelezi177 Місяць тому +5

    can you please talk about about the toxic ness of todays so call "body positivity" movement on your next video

  • @danielleg8257
    @danielleg8257 Місяць тому +3

    Yes! OVER summer ☀️ 😮‍💨

  • @viyoolacouronne6419
    @viyoolacouronne6419 Місяць тому +1

    22:16 yes i agree with her😂i Ben watching some a kid the show was everything

  • @SanahLindt
    @SanahLindt Місяць тому

    Toni you look so pretty! The hair, the outfit, the makeup 🤍🤍

  • @mariahw.3894
    @mariahw.3894 19 днів тому

    I think their biggest downfall is their ability to adapt to the times lol as a a business owner you have to realize trends come and go and you especially as a FASHION brand should stay on top of that. Since there is a lot of nostalgia for 2000s and 2010s they can come back if they play their cards right tbh.

  • @laylawilkinson4988
    @laylawilkinson4988 Місяць тому +2

    girl you’re so beautiful 👼 xx

  • @user-xi6sl5ne2b
    @user-xi6sl5ne2b Місяць тому

    I was a big Victoria fan back in the day. I loved how the old store looked. I thought it was inviting and comfortable. The new look to me felt a little cold. I am now at a stage in my life where I want comfort but also for it to look pretty and perhaps a little sexy. I have found a brand that ticks all the boxes.

  • @pixiestxNyomouf
    @pixiestxNyomouf Місяць тому +2

    *"TRAGIC*" is a heavy word imo 😅 thank you for the vid

  • @nellsn.9997
    @nellsn.9997 Місяць тому +2

    Why don’t they just make a segment in the show dedicated to comfort but cute, and then another to being sexy and toxic?😂 That way, they’d showcase the comfort cute on an average body, but offer sizing for all. Why does it have to be one or the other?

  • @StacyEnovwo
    @StacyEnovwo 15 днів тому

    Hello, where's the link to the book club?

  • @awadiop4215
    @awadiop4215 Місяць тому +6

    Kendall
    Is a supermodel since when, I never even knew she was in VS. but nah man she’s just not on par with naiomi, imam, Tyra etc all the supermodels literally all started from the bottom came to the top this girlHad access from the get go which is why their supermodel
    Title feels More earned than Kendall’s sorry not sorry about it. I don’t get why people even regard the kardashians as talented at all. I Remeber the shows and watching as a kid. And I Remeber that even tho I loved the sexy look and smelling good from the products seeing those skinny woman being propped up and seeing woman like that being uplifted made me feel like yeah I’m not attractive. Then when the curvy body was in I still did not feel attractive because I’m not to skinny but I’m also not incredibly curvy. Made me feel
    Like I could not fit anywhere just had to learn to love myself but the whole skinny girl image did make woman feel like crap

  • @sherylsutherland1183
    @sherylsutherland1183 Місяць тому +2

    What I liked about Rihanna's show she made the woman look sexy you could be curvy and sexy. And when Victoria's secret try to do it they just didn't show the body as sexy when you're curvy for some reason. You don't have to have a plus-size model but maybe somebody in the middle

  • @ramenaddict1676
    @ramenaddict1676 Місяць тому +7

    The only reason i dont shop there because their sizing method is awful and wrong every time, even if you supposedly fit into their standard. Their sizing method is outdated and limited, and they ALWAYS put you in something a size smaller than you actually are. And if you're too small or too big for their limited sizing, too bad, you must be too ugly to wear cute lingerie!! (/s)or they just put you in the the latlrgest/smallest size they can find and it's still gonna suck. Not to mention. They don't actually cater to women, they cater to men.

    • @woahaah6326
      @woahaah6326 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly, this is one the problem! But everyone else thinks it was seeing skinny white women walk down the runway.

  • @kimberlysanchez5321
    @kimberlysanchez5321 Місяць тому +1

    I am over summer as well -nyc

  • @michaelle8384
    @michaelle8384 Місяць тому +1

    I wonder how those people complain about diversity look like behind the internet

  • @JudahsRedEyeLion
    @JudahsRedEyeLion Місяць тому +7

    Shalom.

    • @leas7830
      @leas7830 Місяць тому

      She and Anok Yai are my dream angels 🤩

  • @daijahchristine
    @daijahchristine Місяць тому

    I can’t find the book club link😔

  • @mewdedmulugeta4052
    @mewdedmulugeta4052 Місяць тому

    can you let us know where you get your weave!! it looks soooo good

  • @Jeff_Guapo
    @Jeff_Guapo Місяць тому

    Fenty is really winning, honestly. Their selection for men underwear tops everybody else by far, and then the deals are amazing. That's all I wear for underwear

  • @nettiewinwin9642
    @nettiewinwin9642 Місяць тому

    Girl, you killed this!!!❤🎉😮😊💐🌹

  • @libfuzzy4629
    @libfuzzy4629 9 днів тому

    Super models is a term usually used for models of certain era , Naomi , Kate moss, Iman, Linda evangelista etc … not Kendall Jenner 👀 lol

  • @viyoolacouronne6419
    @viyoolacouronne6419 Місяць тому

    0:22 they need to rise again i miss them !

  • @GLEEariellgriffin
    @GLEEariellgriffin 7 днів тому +1

    Me and all my friends wear vs pink lol