Tool Talk: Stanley SW No. 92| The SW that broke my heart
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2020
- I hate to do this but I cannot tell a lie. After I used their chisels, block plane and low angle jack I was so excited to get the shoulder plane in the sweetheart lineup! Those tools I will sing their praise for their value and cost but I unfortunately cannot for the no 92.This video tells the 2 month story of the tools I received and the let down that follows. I truly hope that I just had terrible terrible luck and it was just a bad batch but this is what my experience was with the Stanley SW no 92 shoulder plane.
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Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with this tool. I've had to make a lot of mortise and tenon joints lately and been seriously looking at a shoulder plane. Your video has saved me a lot of time, money and frustration. Back to E-Bay, a couple auctions are ending soon. And it's great to see young men taking up the craft. Thanks again.
Thanks for posting this. You just saved me some headache! I’ll save up for the Lie Nielsen.
I’m so glad I was able to help!
I was debating on making a similar video. I bought the sweetheart no. 4 and no. 62. The no. 62 the cap iron screw bottoms out and the blade isn’t even remotely secure. Stanley sent me another one after spending excessive time in trying to get the first one to function properly. The second one they sent, brand new out of the box is the same way. If you spend the time to set up them up and shim the cap iron in order to hold the blade firmly in place, they work great. Just regret not spending a little more on a wood river version. I pretty much use my .no 6 wood river as a jack plane or some older baileys instead of fighting 3 brand new sweet hearts. The no. 4 is a pain in the ass to get it set
I got the Benchdog from Rockler, it works good..To open mouth a shim is in stalled which works good, between the two openings it covers every thing I need, but not as conveniently as some other brands. While at Rockler I was able to compare with the 92, glad I made the with the choice.
The wood river shoulder plane is excellent
8:15 I own an older Stanley No. 90 which is basically the same shoulder plane, but shorter. If you remove that sliding cap, turn it upside down, you should see a screw that adjusts so you can make the throat a specific depth when you slide it closed. The screw acts as a "stop" for the slide. Check your 92 for that. It's meant to allow the user to have a specific adjustment that can be duplicated when you have to sharpen so you don't need to mess around with all the adjustments.
My #92 came in and with a little adjustment scorekeeper beautiful. Maybe I just got lucky.
I’m so glad to hear that! It has the potential to be a really good tool.
@@matthewvick4930 it really is
The first tool looks like it was manufactured and then thrown on top of a bunch of others in a crate. The 2nd one was really beat up! Again, it looks like it has been beat around during the manufacturing process. I wonder if you could take the best parts off them and make one really good plane? Nice honest review, Matthew!
12 Again Sports & Outdoors I tried swapping parts in hopes that would fix it but they don’t fit the same unfortunately.
Up here in Canada a Veritas medium shoulder plane can be gotten for about $160cdn. There is a Lee Valley Tools in the US so I wonder that it sells for more in the US than it does up here. That said the quality of the build is past excellent. The gap between to two main parts is invisible to the naked eye and EVERY piece is machined as good as it possibly can be and it is a joy to work with. My thought is that when you buy tools letting the price guide your purchase will eventually cost more in the long run. As well if you buy good tools if you are no longer using it there will be a lineup to buy it from you. So I consider good quality tools cheap rent. And they are a joy to use. I have struggled with Stanley products for years and no longer choose to. I have a Bailey No 5, a Stanley 45 made a long time ago and the rest of my planes are Veritas. Made in Canada eh? I sold Stanley tools for about 30yrs and it came to a point they made them as cheap as they could to get more money out of us.
I was able to used the medium shoulder plane while in school and it was such an incredible tool. My favorite part was how nice it was to hold with the swiveling knob. Veritas makes the best tools that I own and I will definitely be getting one one day for sure. The medium size with the pmv11 steel is $220 usd. With the veritas tools I do have I definitely think the blade upgrade is worth the extra $15
I'm glad that you posted this. I haven't bit the bullet to buy a shoulder plane yet but when I do I'll be sure to stay away from this tool. Like I always say, "You've done been Chinafied!"
Haha yep they got me for sure
#12again let's see some stuff being made 👍
Victor Jay absolutely! I’m currently building a shop and as soon as it’s done I will do a video for everything I make!
I think the blades are made in the UK. QA is likely better on those. It’s especially disappointing as the fundamentals are there, it’s just the finally grinding and finishing.
I definitely agree. I wouldn’t have been as upset if I hadn’t seen the bar that they set with their other tools.
I bought one and immediately returned it and bought the Veritas. The Stanley was junk and the Veritas is an absolute pleasure and ultimate perfection. 15:17
The new one that Stanley sent looks to be all beat to death, serious dings and poor finish.
Thats the beauty of stanley tools they always needed work. But when you do that it kind of becomes your tool doesn't it.
Had the same thing happen to me, stopped trying to use it.
I hate to hear that. They definitely came up short on this one
What were y ou expecting for sixty dollars? I got one of the old stile 92 and also a 93 and they also had issues, and required work to maken usable, if hpu want a perfect tool, ge a clifton or a lie nielsen, then you will be happy,
If you watched the whole video I definitely agree with you and even put the links to LN and Veritas in the description. I wasn’t looking for a perfect tool I was just looking for the same quality that all my other new Stanley sw tools have. I’ve used the LN and the veritas and of course those are both amazing tools but I’m still not in a position to drop $200 on a shoulder plane. I’d love to get my hands on a Clifton and try them out because all of their tools are so beautiful!
You buy a new tool, you do not expect it to be rusted no matter what the price.
@@anpr5309 I absolutely agree!
No, no, no,. You cannot say "what were you expecting for..." with this situation. It may be a crappy product, but it should be finished. It should function properly, if not in a quality way. Not pitted and not rusted. How it works is another story.
@@robertbeckman2054 I appreciate the comment! I agree!
#12again cool tool talk
Do they make this plane in Mexico?
I hope Stanley sees this video, you would of thought whoever sent the replacement would of taken the time to check it was a mint condition example.
Not that I am aware of but I cannot speak for all of the shoulder planes.
Looks like Stanley don't give a xxxx about their brand.
Wow that definitely don't look new. I wouldn't be happy with it if I bought it .
Mike the Lindor card dude i edited out about 10 minutes of ranting lol I just wish these were held to the same standards and the other tools.
Look for the old USA or Mexico, China was the ZINGER! It looks like China needs more cosmoline! I have never had to use one but $60 vs $200 if I didn't use it much I think I could wing it with this one. But, if it is a specialty tool just save up and and get the better one if it makes life easier.
#12Again Sent Me
I had a ton of casting flash and grittiness in the screws on mine. It does ok but I wouldnt buy one again.
#12again great tool review matt!
Thank you!
#12Again
Pity but stanley tools the quailty is not the same as it used to be about 20 yrs ago the prices are still high but same with marples split proof chisels the steel in them is not like it used to be .
I recommend a wooden shoulder plane or Veritas.
I think I’m going to use the blade out of this and just make my own.
It's $96 dollars now.
Which is crazy because it wasn’t worth it when it was cheaper
you get what you pay for, enough said
You get what you pay for. This has always been the case. $60 might have got you a sweet plane at some point, but you'll need to fork over the $$ for a LN or LV to get a quality tool that will last a lifetime. Only way around this is to find an old Stanley made in the US, best scenario unused. Stanley is no longer Stanley. Shame, but that's how it be. Shop Fox, Wood River (as pretty as they are), and the others are just plain shit.
I’m all about the LN or LV. I’ve used both and was very impressed. I think I will probably go with the veritas because I love the swivel knobs that are on the tails.
#12Again - Danny sent me.
Are you admiring these planes or using them? I hope you realize how many of these things are produced daily and for 60$ I think YOU Could do a little more work on your tool to cover the price break. Just my 2cent wisdom
I have a few type one Stanleys in like new condition that I will not use but other than that I use all of my tools and daily either for work or play at home haha. Yes I’m aware that this is a mass production item from China I totally agree too for $60 yes I can work on them but that was the sale price. If you look these up they are around $100 and if I had paid full price I would would be even more disappointed due to the bar they set on the other sweetheart line of tools. When I know what Stanley is capable of and this is what they deemed good enough to sit next to their other tools that’s where my disappointment comes from
It's as shame the tools don't work that good. #12Again
The Stanley Sweetheart Low Angle Jackplane Sucks too! Stanley is GARBAGE (the newer one’s anyway). Buy once, cry once. Tools don’t cost money-they either save you money or make you money.
I just got the jack plane today, what was wrong with yours?
I mostly wont buy from Stanley. You can get far better, decent priced things from Woodriver/Quangsheng/Luban. Often also Chinese made but quality control and tolerances are obviously much better
I’ve recently found the luban brand and they seem very impressive for the price. I hope to get my hands on one one day
@@matthewvick4930 From what I know they are pretty good, though I order from Workshop Heaven in the U.K and the have some kind of specific quality guarantee with Luban/Quansheng so you may get lesser quality stuff from other suppliers. I'm not entirely sure what the deal there is but anything I've gotten has been well worth the money.
Dude move it along, stop repeating yourself over and over.
Thanks dude I’m definitely bad at repeating myself for sure! I’m hoping this UA-cam channel will help me with that!