yup I have a supersonic 22 w/verb and would love to see you cure that one, The temporary hack I did for playing at home was to wire a pot to two jacks in the fx loop, this helped enough for non band playing. Keep up the good work!
Lyle it seems like you might not catch an email I sent about a supa-boost pedal i had sent to you from Warehouse Speakers. Just a Thank You for all the work you put into this channel. FedEx says it was delivered. Have learned much from you and Brad.
Thanks, but I hope it wasn’t sent to the old address on the website (since removed). I never expected people to send things to me. I don’t publish my address though Warehouse has it on file. I’ll check for the email.
Hi! For the Supersonic 22, many people are suggesting substituting the V4 tube (reverb recovery?) with a 12AY7 to lower the noise floor. Is it safe to do this, given that the 12AY7 has a higher plate current? Thanks!
I often watch your videos and I wish I had someone with your knowledge and experience in my vicinity! Out of curiosity, did you ever try to fix the excessive noise problem on a 90s Evil Twin? Most technicians seem to run scared of that amp!
It can be done but it’s relatively expensive. Rebuild the low voltage supply, change all filter caps, mod the reverb circuit, and bypass the effects loop/insert circuits. I usually just tell them to get a ‘65 RI TR instead.
@@PsionicAudio Thanks for your kind reply! Turns out that the reverb circuit is the last revision for that amp from Fender (it's the original non-tremolo one). The amp spent most of its life in a studio, basically unplayed from new, so the filter caps may not need to be changed. Interesting to know that bypassing the effects loop circuit and rebuilding the low wattage supply can reduce the hum, that could be something worth a try!
Lyle I own a Supersonic 22, have wondered about how to lower the noise floor for years. If you get one on the bench I'd love for a breakdown on how to fix this problem on that amp. Thanks, huge fan love the channel!
Are the older Fender prosonic amps as bad as these for noise floor? Just curious. Never played one, but I have seen some guys I listen to play them in stereo with their AC30TBX.
I have a 1997 prosonic and it is dead quite. I aslo have a 1999 ac30tbx and has the hum. But also have a super sonic 60 and definitely hums. I totally bypassed the fx loop and reverb and now is almost dead silent
My 22 is abit noisy on the burn channel. But not bad. I believe it is the dual gain circut Fender has for therex1 & 2 switches. . But overall I do not find mine that buzzy
This is a 3 minute video and I thought what could be so fast of an answer? I thought that maybe the video was going to be Lyle out shopping for a different amp as the solution to the noise problem.
I was testing a Mesa Fillmore 50 at guitar center, and everytime you turn it off, it makes a loud pop sound, like if someone pulled an instrument cable out of a guitar.
@@yarbgreat1 my Fender Deluxe plus does that too, so B4 I off it I pluck a Adapter in the Headphones input. Solved. Well wishings and all the best furthermore.
yup I have a supersonic 22 w/verb and would love to see you cure that one, The temporary hack I did for playing at home was to wire a pot to two jacks in the fx loop, this helped enough for non band playing. Keep up the good work!
I would like to see the Supersonic 22 cured too!
first ;-)
Thanks for a great live earlier. I now am going down the rabbit-hole of TopHat amps!
Lyle it seems like you might not catch an email I sent about a supa-boost pedal i had sent to you from Warehouse Speakers. Just a Thank You for all the work you put into this channel. FedEx says it was delivered. Have learned much from you and Brad.
Thanks, but I hope it wasn’t sent to the old address on the website (since removed). I never expected people to send things to me. I don’t publish my address though Warehouse has it on file. I’ll check for the email.
@@PsionicAudio yeah i knew there was a risk. fedex said they left it on the porch at the circle address. was the thought that counts. : ).
Hi! For the Supersonic 22, many people are suggesting substituting the V4 tube (reverb recovery?) with a 12AY7 to lower the noise floor. Is it safe to do this, given that the 12AY7 has a higher plate current? Thanks!
Won’t hurt anything but it won’t cure the amp’s noise issues. It will be a small move in the right direction though.
I own a fender front man amp. No problems with it at all. Lol.
I often watch your videos and I wish I had someone with your knowledge and experience in my vicinity! Out of curiosity, did you ever try to fix the excessive noise problem on a 90s Evil Twin? Most technicians seem to run scared of that amp!
It can be done but it’s relatively expensive. Rebuild the low voltage supply, change all filter caps, mod the reverb circuit, and bypass the effects loop/insert circuits.
I usually just tell them to get a ‘65 RI TR instead.
@@PsionicAudio Thanks for your kind reply! Turns out that the reverb circuit is the last revision for that amp from Fender (it's the original non-tremolo one). The amp spent most of its life in a studio, basically unplayed from new, so the filter caps may not need to be changed. Interesting to know that bypassing the effects loop circuit and rebuilding the low wattage supply can reduce the hum, that could be something worth a try!
Hmm seems like a major change but if it was as noisy as you intimated it may well be worth it!
Lyle I own a Supersonic 22, have wondered about how to lower the noise floor for years. If you get one on the bench I'd love for a breakdown on how to fix this problem on that amp. Thanks, huge fan love the channel!
A simple fix for me was a JHS black box in the effects loop, makes the amp much quieter and also means you can crank the preamp
12AY7 in V4
past few years and play it everyday
no more hiss
@@44dognut What does this do?
@@twirlyboggs Really? Just a single preamp tube change fixes the noise floor?
Lyle would this mod be relevant for the Supersonic 60 Watt Combo? I don't really like the noise floor on mine. I'll have to check my schematic.
Are the older Fender prosonic amps as bad as these for noise floor? Just curious. Never played one, but I have seen some guys I listen to play them in stereo with their AC30TBX.
I have a 1997 prosonic and it is dead quite. I aslo have a 1999 ac30tbx and has the hum. But also have a super sonic 60 and definitely hums. I totally bypassed the fx loop and reverb and now is almost dead silent
Interesting!
Oh man. I have so many questions (if this applies to the Supersonic 22)!
1. Does the same apply to the Fender Supersonic 22?
My 22 is abit noisy on the burn channel. But not bad. I believe it is the dual gain circut Fender has for therex1 & 2 switches. . But overall I do not find mine that buzzy
12AY7 in V4
This is a 3 minute video and I thought what could be so fast of an answer? I thought that maybe the video was going to be Lyle out shopping for a different amp as the solution to the noise problem.
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How do we solve the channel switch pop?!
That’s the low voltage supply usually. I rebuilt it in this amp. It’s the same circuit as in the Hot Rod Deluxe and it burns in the exact same way.
@@PsionicAudio cool,thanks
I was testing a Mesa Fillmore 50 at guitar center, and everytime you turn it off, it makes a loud pop sound, like if someone pulled an instrument cable out of a guitar.
@@yarbgreat1 my Fender Deluxe plus does that too, so B4 I off it I pluck a Adapter in the Headphones input. Solved. Well wishings and all the best furthermore.
Be kind to bats and mute that Supersonic noise!🤣 (If it was truly supersonic, would humans be able to hear it? 🤔😁).
You're thinking of ultrasound! When something is supersonic it's just moving faster than sound.
@@RudolfWolph , I was definitely having a brain fart there!
@@goodun2974 Happens to everyone!