Draymond’s Ejection Is the Latest Sign of the Warriors’ Decline | The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Russillo recaps some notable NBA games he watched lately, including the Warriors losing to the Suns after Draymond Green got ejected for punching Jusuf Nurkic in the face. He talks about what it means for the Warriors' title window and whether it's finally fair to write them off. Then he talks about the Mavs beating the Lakers, the Suns potentially getting their Big Three all playing at the same time, and the latest criticisms of Zion Williamson's physical shape.
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There was an Australian Footballer, Barry Hall, who used to do dumb sh*t like Draymond.
After a few incidents, his own team suspended him for the season and then traded him. His captain said 'I trust him with my kids, I just don't trust him on the field'.
In short, the Warriors need to deal with Green before he seriously injures someone.
Big bad bustling Barry
That’s really interesting cause the comp I immediately thought of was Vontaze Burfict in the NFL. A decade of the Bengals overlooking his psychotic behavior for his production, only for him to seriously cost them in big moments, eventually leading to him being cut from the Raiders in preseason for ANOTHER illegal hit. Seems like the path Draymond is walking rn
People should look up 'Barry Hall hit on Brent Staker.' The guy is unhinged
Plus Barry Hall actually knew how to fight too.
@@prod.snqwfall1347I’m not a football guy, but after looking into this, this seems to be a good comparison.
There's a BIG difference between a Tough Guy and a Bully.
Green is a BULLY, not a Tough Guy.
100 %. That's the main difference between him or Artest
Steven adams - tough guy
He's the antithesis of a tough guy. Remember a while back when he got a fan kicked out of the arena because he got his feelings hurt
He's not a bully, Green is a crazy person these days. Reminds me of Antonio Brown.
Last night was ridiculous. Anyone who believes that was an accident is in denial.
Draymond is off the rails🤪
He literally feels for him with his hand and then swings at him with the other lol dudes fucking nuts
You could see Draymond winding up the punch
Sounds like you are directing that statement to Steve Kerr…
It was an “accident” like the old Simpsons episode where Bart tells Lisa “I’m going to walk forward swinging my arms like this, and if you’re in the way it’s your fault”
Wait did Poole really call Draymond a $30M backpack for Steph? If true that’s hilarious 😂
And he told Green he laid more women at Michigan St than Green did.
lol that he did....on No Chill Gil, Mccants wears a tee with steph carrying dray in a designer backpack. has me crine everytime
@@elliottsmith7530- Wears*, crying*?
@@DrPhill96 wears was typo, crine was on purpose. done, feel better?
@@elliottsmith7530 - “Wears” is the correction, not the typo. And what is “crine” in relation to your sentence?
Ryen cmon. He’s been a REPEAT OFFENDER for the better part of a decade. He shows no remorse. 20 games would be a joke. And if I’m Nurkic, I’m pissed teammates didn’t come over and back him up.
Nah. 5. The Gobert choke was much worse.
@@David-iv6je GS D rider
@@David-iv6jelol. Hes gonna get lit up here. More likely to be 15 than 5
@@k_hack9441 What, are you in 5th grade? I live in Houston.
@@David-iv6je
Gobert chock was at least in a scuffle, but against Nurkić was out of nothing, just frustrated because Nurk using his body to push that moron out without fouling him! He is not strong enough for Nurkić under the basket, that’s why he was frustrated, he can’t play anymore and punches the guy for nothing. He’s a bully and a pussy!
That’s what a sucker punch looks like when you regret throwing it 95% of the way through.
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lol yes
10 is bare minimum. 15-25 isn't out of the question. This can't continue.
That was probably the most unprovoked I've ever seen a reaction like that.
Honestly wouldn't be mad at the rest of the season. This guy is a clown and isn't even playing basketball at this point. That's not a hard foul it's just punk shit
indefinitely
Shouldn't set foot on a court this season... this isn't even his worst dirty play trying to hurt someone. Enough
He's a clown and it's embarrassing that the league hasnt done anything about him yet. He's going to seriously hurt someone at some point, and the league will be to blame for being so lemiet towards him his entire career.
It was over for this team after Draymond punched Poole in the face and the team sided with Draymond. What message did that send to the other young players that were supposed to be the bridge of continuous success?
Those young players got a ring, they just need to play well enough to get another contract, but they aren't going to care about this core getting another ring.
if this happened on a lebron team we'd be hearing about his lack of leadership, but since it's steph, that's not even broached lmao. listening to this is hilarious, ryen will bend over backwards to defend steph
Steph hasn't ever led a bad team to the playoffs, how many loaded teams does the kid need to win.
How could Morant get more games for just showing a gun on camera when Draymond is actually committing violence? Makes zero sense
Ja Morant also threatened the lives of mall cops and beat up a 17 year old lol the suspension wasn’t just for the gun but for not learning his lesson when he had the chance
Because for Green his infractions are on court related. With Ja Wick its a law issue *AND* an image issue with the NBA.
Draymond has been making bill laimbeer look like Andrea bargnani. There are ufc fighters that have thrown fewer punches in the last calendar year
Draymond doesn’t even realize he’s killed is post-playing career. He’s becoming untouchable and a joke that nobody will take seriously, and he doesn’t have the charisma like Chuck that someone will take a chance in him. He loves the attention but he’s going to lose it once he can’t abuse people on the court.
There is plenty of a market for shitty people in America. He will have a job in media for sure.
People sleep on Chuck’s intelligence because he’s from the South and all that, but he’s a brilliant dude. He did some despicable things during his career, like spitting on kids, but he’s got enough wit and charm to make up for it. Draymond tried to act like some kind of intellectual, but it ends up feeling forced. The difference also is Barkley doesn’t take himself too seriously. He’ll run his mouth, but he can also laugh about it later.
It’s bad look for the NBA if they continually slap him on the wrist. The guy has anger issues and is violent when over the edge. He’s hurting players. This shit has to stop and if you’re gonna fuck Ja Morant for 25 for doing what he did you’ve gotta punish the guy who’s being violent on the court in a hard way as well. 15 game minimum in my opinion and I would not mind more. Hell it may even help the warriors as far as him being a shitty distraction.
I really think that Draymond is over-rated as fuck. If he was drafted by any other team, he most likely would have ridden the bench for a couple of years and then flamed out. Poole's 'backpack' comment got him punched because it was true.
If it was his first offense then I could understand your reluctance for the lesser suspension but it’s not and it’s a recurring thing. Time to make a statement with the punishment or why wouldn’t we expect it to continue?
Exactly. Dude is a REPEAT OFFENDER and the warriors front office and management hasn't said a word about any of his actions.
Russilo, I love you. I've been listening to you forever. I think you are a brilliant basketball mind relative to the industry on the whole.
You think 25 games is excessive because you are a soft, vaguely fat/slightly in shape, coddled man that hasn't ever really lived through any type of violent adversity.
I'm speaking as a Black man from 7 mile Detroit. I'm a former foster child, put myself through College and played ball up until my Freshman year.
I've also made my fair share of mistakes.
I've been to jail, seen the truly abhorrent aspects of society while also seeing some of the very best aspects of society.
I bring these facts up because when we view these professional athletes and discuss them, the fact is they have real impact on the culture of our society. Especially among the Black American community.
Given the sheer violence on display by every facet of our society, while giving the proper respect and attention to the violence that the Black American community deals with, it seems to me that 25 games would be the bare minimum for a millionaire coddled and effete grown man to have to deal with.
25 games for hitting another grown man?
Yeah?
Excessive?
Really?
Ja Morant with the gunplay? Schools are being shot up on the regular. People and children fucking died.
25 games is too excessive?
Abhorrent outlook that betrays a lack of empathy because of financial success.
What are we even fucking doing here?
Release Draymond. Suspend Ja Morant for the remainder of the season.
Their behavior is tacitly unacceptable.
dope comment
I like you!!!!!! Preach, bro
Agree! also the superfluous "vaguely fat" dig, LOL
Why dig at the guy lmao, I agree with your point but you come off as uppity, and whiney. Taking low digs at someone before your argument shows immaturity and inexperience
Dray and Ja think they are men like you.
It's so crazy how people act surprised, the league let this shit slide for so long because the Warriors brought in those ratings & cash, now people want him held accountable. I remember during the last Finals he straight up said he knows he gets treated different and nobody cared 🤷🏽♂️
He should get 30 games. How many times does he need to punch an opponent (or teammate) or kick someone in the balls before he gets a real deterrent?
They not gonna be happy until there's a player or team who wants real gets back and not scared of the consequences then the league gonna talk that we don't tolerate this in our league bullshit
Only thing I disagree with you on is calling Draymond a world class athlete. Dude is a clown and would lose to your average mens league hooper in a shooting contest. Hes been a great enforcer and defensive player throughout his career but if he was drafted by the Wizards instead of the Warriors hed have probably have a hundred million fewer dollars and definitely zero rings.
Are you aware of "The Scallenge"? Former NBA benchwarmer Brian Scalabrine taking on the challenge of playing casuals who verbally trashed him 1-on-1. And he annihilates every single one of them. Then brought the excellent quote, "I may suck compared to LeBron, but you suck compared to me." Which is 100 % true. Even if you think that Draymond Green is the worst player in the NBA at this point (which would be a ridiculous take), he would be about the 500th best player in the world. And about 500 million players would still be way worse.
Do you not think playing great defence in the nba requires world-class athleticism?
@@lukereaume9372 I mean it does. But hand eye coordination and body control and SKILL are also parts of it. Being big and strong are parts of it too though you right
@@phil_dornhegge ya I never said anything about playing draymond 1v1
@@eriksports You did discredit him as a world-class athlete. Which you simply have to be in order to be a top-500 player in basketball. These clowns did the same thing w/ Scalabrine and found out.
Davis should have DPOY his range is crazy. he covers the corner 3 and the rim same time. gobert doesn't do that.
when he plays more than 30 games we can talk about that
Wiggins should’ve been traded when his value was way higher. Him and Klay are better off bench on a contender
dude sick house
Draymond has assaulted three players in two years. He's a danger to everyone on the court. Somebody's going to get badly hurt if this goes on.
Ban him for life.
Technically, 3 assaults in 8 months. (Sabonis, Gobert, Nurkic).
Assault...I'm not sure that word means what you think it means.
How about 30 players in 10 years?
Dray should be out of the league. He’s going FG to eventually seriously hinder someone’s career with a significant injury. It’s a matter of time
All great eras tend to end with a lot of kicking and screaming. I think about Bobby Knight going from a winning drill sergeant to a asshole baby throwing a tantrum. That dogged attitude is great but only if you’ve got the talent. Relying on one Superstar won’t work and there will never be another ring in Golden State with this group.
How great are you if your extracurriculars beating up on other players and refs is necessary to round out your greatness? For the other greats, talent alone speaks for itself.
Adam Silver needs to grow a pair and suspend him until after All Star break
Shoulda ditched Draymond last season and kept Poole.
From just the suspensions alone he might be ineligible for all defense lol
Their championship window closed when Kevin Durant left. You win a championship right? You lose your best player. You lose some of your best role players. All of your star players get older. What do you think is going to happen?? I think LeBron playing well until he is 39 is really making people forget that most players aren't like that. The Warriors core is OLD. They only beat the Kings last year because their best player Fox was injured. The truth is, their Window closed several years ago. But analysts have been too slow to see it.
Their window was closed immediately after their most recent Championship.
I think their window closed with the dominance of Denver and the lakers being decent again. Two big men who just destroy them and they have no answer for.
Well, no one has an answer for Jokic but still. AD destroys GS as well.
they won a championship after KD left. Their window closed for two reasons: Wiseman pick disaster and Draymond punching Poole.
They won in 21.
This is so terrible horrible embarrassing bad for the warriors and a warrior fan
Glad you spoke on AD’s recent good play . It’s been a running joke to shxt on him but you gotta give credit where credit is due
Anything less than the remainder of the season is too lenient. If he comes back next season and continues to act like a moron he’s got to be banned.
Anyone else think he should lose his spot on TNT for it?
I'd ban him permanently before he seriously hurts someone.
They won’t be happy until he breaks someone’s neck in some Sunday afternoon game on national tv.
listen ja about a year older than me 25 games was perfect he needed a chill pill but draymond knocking mfs out lmaooo they gave him 100 more million so just like Ja when he got his deal it’s a invincibility factor so maybe he does need a reality check to bring him back to earth
Trade him to Detroit. He'll retire in a year and become an analyst instead of a wanna be mid level mob enforcer.
It all started in 2016 when Draymond kicked Steven Adams in the "Nutz" and the BIG Kiwi didn't retaliate.
I "blame" Draymond's "I can away with this mentality" on Steven Adams.
GSW fans would surly agree with me.
"punishment twitter is a harsh world" It is indeed. Uncalled for a lot of the time, but not this time.
Thanks for reminding me of the Livingston knee injury. Now I have to go hide under a blanket until I stop shaking.
People give Kerr a hard time. But imagine subbing out the best starting lineup from last year? You'd be an idiot. And the politics of it all... But if they warm up and get back to last year, with a better bench than last year.... But they just haven't. Klay and Wiggins are not Klay and Wiggins. Green has literally lost his mind. And the bench are competent but not contenders. Maybe with Curry they're first round exits. But last year best starting lineup in the entire league with a terrible bench. So weird how it's all just completely fallen apart. And personally I can't really blame Kerr for not accepting that a team this good can't pull it together. I mean Klay.... Best three point shooter from last year. He now literally sucks. It makes no sense. Wiggins has fallen off a cliff. Makes no sense. Ah well! Kerr has finally got to make moves though because otherwise he'll have to be fired. So hopefully something good happens 😅
Ok, just imagine going to your workplace and getting punched in the face. What would happen? Right, the police would probably show up and the oher guy, who punched you, would be fired..
He needs therapy, simple as that. His anger managment is out of controll for years. He should watch Dennis Rodman clips all day long. Dennis didhis thing the "smart way", did not hurt his team when it mattered the most..
"when youre a single digit PER, start getting the foreign language apps" omfg im howling!!!😭😂🤣 wiggins has reverted back to his natural, low motor, minnesota self
Love the casual dismissals Saric. He is and always has been a good player who has been in the wrong situation. He can be overwhelmed as a 5 by bigger guys, but he is a playmaker centre in the Warriors style a la Bogut (not saying he is as good as him!). Lost a lot of time to injury in PHX on a t3am with ball dominant guys. Strictly has the IQ for Warriors ball and will co tinge to improve. And I am not even a Warriors guy!!!
So now a guy can't swing his own arms in the space around his own person? Incredible how soft today's NBA has become. Everybody knows these Euro players take dives and act like they got hit by a truck when you so much as breathe near them.
when is someone going to address the European elephant in the room!
Stamped on Sabonis, choked Golbert and punched Nurkic ! 🥊🇪🇺🐘😱
He's a liability to the team at this point, and that's about it.
I think 10-13 is right where the Golden State Warriors want to be.
I think it’s a 50-50 shot that they would actually get far better or actually tank.
I will say it, IT's OVA
Honestly, just make him retire. He doesn't contribute in any positive way, and he's a cancer. Its a very simple situation. He deserves to go to jail , anything less is mercy.
Not sure how the warriors could of avoided this. Disappointing player development. Core players aged. This is the result
If they're not willing to make serious roster upgrades like trading Klay and Green for picks or young talents then yes the Championship window is closed.
Its a shame Warriors as an organization simply ignores Dray atitude. Glad this MF is out.
I remember as a kid watching Dennis Rodman the Worm being a force with his defense. But then he started getting all weird & resorting to fouling with just plain thuggery to compensate for his physical decline. Sadly that’s Draymond Green. It’s the end. Father Time always wins.
Are you talking about his last 2 stints with the Lakers and Mavs before he hung it up? He was 37-38 at that point and way past his double 3-peat with the Bulls. Plus he was about the thuggery even around the Spurs.
The faxt you said u don't think h3 should be suspended 20 games you are part of the problem
Wtf does suspend indefinitely even mean lls …… I’m glad he suspended tho his ego this season was insane lmao every presser he’s talking like he’s bill Russell lmao
Background is a whole flex 💪🏾🔥
Amazing set up on the balcony Ryan. Love the furniture
This just proves that Kerr isnt that good a coach. There’s enough talent on this roster to be a contender but he sucks as a coach.
Just another Phil Jackson
Draymond needs to be suspended indefinitely, he's awful, mma needs him, he needs to go.
This podcast aged pretty shltty. Ws 13-3 since deemed done 😂🎉😂
Exum segment was trash...
Everyone knows that was a one-off game 😂
They are like the Toronto Maple Leafs after the 1967 championship. The Leafs won four titles in 6 years and then they were cooked. They traded away Mahovalich without replacing him. Their old players faded and their young players either got traded away for short term help or they just weren't really that good. Two years ago the Warriors were talking about being able to rebuild on the fly and maintain their winning ways. Since then, Wiseman and Poole are gone. Kuminga and Moody don't look at all like stars (or even starters). Wiggins is burned out. Draymon and Klay are old and cooked. The useful veterans on the bench are all gone. Stef is magnificent but the only way the Warriors will be able to rebuild is by trading trading him to a contender for some building blocks.
Draymond is aging backwards like a kid who is mentally Ill
The Warriors should be able to void Green's contract.
Green is basically basketballs Antonio Brown at this point.
I’d say this is different from the Ja Morant thing because Draymond has done this way more than 2 times, and he did it on the court.
Doesn’t justify anything Morant did of course-I’ve just always felt uncomfortable with how his situation has been handled by the league vs Draymond’s.
Like how many times has Adam Silver sat down with Draymond? I’d guess less than Morant.
Also, Ja is still young. Dray damn near 40
@@robi5192 Right. Like, Ja hasn’t made it to the 3rd round-
Draymond did this in a finals game, got suspended, lost the title in a humiliating way, and still thought “Nope I’m good-no accountability here”
I’ve defended Draymond after every single incident but this was unprovoked & selfish. I don’t mind it when we’re winning because we need some fire but when we’re losing, the last thing we need is one of our best players off the floor (especially with how bad klay and wigs are playing). You can play on the edge without punching people.
bruh jumped to choke a dude damn near a foot taller than him but this is where you drew the line huh LOL
Draymond's psychological profile makes it so that those closest to him, like his wife, kids, other family members and friends, are not exempt from his violence. That's more terrifying than what he does on the court.
I take the under on him being in police custody within ten years of retiring.
Steve Kerr is an overrated coach. He seems like he’s not in it anymore
At this point his name should be Draymond Mean
Love the real talk about the NBA pundits
Charge Green with assault and fine the Warrior's FO for constantly pretending this isn't a recurring problem. Too harsh? what happens if he knocked Nurkic unconscious and the dude fell wrong and got hurt in a way that puts his career in jeopardy? What about when he stomped on Sabonis, what are the stakes there? punctured lung anyone? Thank god that didn't happen. Blatant dirty plays like that are no longer acceptable, it's not 1977 anymore and even then players squared up like MEN.
Where’s Ryen lol looks awesome
Ryan said start getting the foreign language apps 😢😅
Draymond is a clown. There are so many dirty things he has done over the years that weren't even called, where people were injured. Non-Warriors fans, think of your favorite teams games against GS the last decade. Many of us can name very specific shady Draymond acts, that the majority of us don't even know about because we don't watch every Warriors game.
Draymond has a dual personality like a mean drunk does... And basketball is his drink of choice.
Draymond plays low key dirty all the time but now he can't hang. He flips out anytime people play him like he played everyone else his whole career. I think its because he lost a step, his advantage has become his weakness. I thought Poole leaving would help unify the team but it doesnt seem like its changed much, dray is acting worse. Curry can still lead a team to another ring but I dont think its with dray and klay as starters.
My question is, what happens if Draymond Green does something more egregious and hurts someone - can GSW, NBA be sued?
Curry needs to go to a better team. Warriors are done.
poole called him an expensive backpack for 30. 30 is curry, not the 30 mil
I love those annoying yet tough players like Draymond but what's he doing right now has nothing to do with that. Right now he's just a player who doesn't like being out there yet doesn't know how to deal with it.
I hope Draymond knows Mandarin
Too bad for Desmond , seems like a good dude off the court. Oh well , time to play the other dudes (who are pass prime for real) and eval the holes to fill out as season rolls on.
what would they say if this was the 80s?
how weak is the west when a reason why lakers and AD are good, is how OKC can't match up with them
Bring back the outro music
Dray knows how to make it look like an accident ffsho
Nah he just says it's an accident after the fact. Nobody with a brain believes him. Dude had his non slapping hand on nurkic he knew exactly what he was doing
I belive Luka usage is the lowest,like his rookie year,specialy with Kyrie.
They’ve been in alot of close games. The problem is they don’t have a center. They’ve struggled with protecting the paint and getting rebounds
They need to get somebody 6’11 with 7’4 wingspan
And they said dray have very high basketball IQ
Most overrated player in NBA history. Like calling Big Baby a HOF player. Green is a goon!!!!!!
Accidents are accidental
How many times did they count the spurs out... same here
Draymond drafted by any team other than the warriors is Al Farouq Aminu.
dont disrepect aminu like that lbvs
Kerr getting fired
Ja got 20 games for something everyone is guaranteed the right to do in our country, Dray is gonna get 5 games for something that would get you fired and arrested for doing at work.
Dude, maybe you have never seen sports before but just look at the stuff after the play in an NFL or NHL game. He was flat out wrong but please.
@@shep1582 You know what sport you don’t see that in? The NBA. Those are contact sports… Unless Dray is playing, the NBA isn’t a contact sport. If you’re playing tennis and body slam someone - they’re gonna flip out and probably ban you for life. Same if you tackled someone trying to take their shot in golf. Why? Because every sport is different. The NBA and NHL couldn’t be further apart in what they allow.
@@cousinwil5808How old are you? The NBA is a huge contact game. Look at the NBA in the 80s & 90s. He was wrong, I'd never defend him, but the NBA is held to an irrational standard. Last basketball is not tennis or golf have you never heard of body him up in bball? C'mon now.
@@shep1582 I’m 45. There has never been a point in the NBA where throwing a haymaker on an unsuspecting player was a legal play. Headlocks have never been a legal play in basketball. Not even in the 80s and 90s.
These guys are millionaire businessmen, they’re not in a gang. No one is gonna get shot, there’s no need for an “enforcer” like there is in hockey where you can fight on the ice legally. It’s fake tough guy BS that is dangerous to the other millionaires he’s sharing the court with.
Which brings us back to my point. Ja got suspended for something that is legal, and endangered no one. Just repeatedly bad optics.
Dray is out there endangering the multimillion dollar livelihoods of other players and possibly jeopardizing the profits of multibillion dollar teams by assaulting those millionaires unsuspectingly. Guys who showed to play basketball and found themselves being dragged across the court by their necks or punched in the temple or their chest stomped on and jumped off of while they lay on the ground helplessly out of nowhere. Guys who still have another contract they’d like to be able to sign and play out in the future. Guys who are playing basketball for organizations with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line if they can make a deep run.
Which you think should be a bigger deal to the league?
They wont do it, but bron has to guard Luka to close games, he is the perfect defender, he has the length, strength and lateral quickness.
Rui has the body but no the lateral quickness, which is why he was failing.
if 39 year old LeBron has to guard Luka he is not giving you 30 points.
lebron is ab absolutely doghsit defensive player.
Everyone using this Draymond face in their thumbnails is sending a message for real and I went from feeling angry to feeling sad about his situation.
Huh
Look at his face in the thumbnail man, dude clearly is crying for help through these actions @@AndrewWright1998
@@AndrewWright1998he or she is just race baiting. Don’t pay attention to it