Ultralight Camping FAIL!
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- I went camping with a new ultralight setup weighing just 3.9kg (8lbs 9oz)!
The setup includes:
- Aonijie running backpack
- Lanshan 2 ultralight tent
- Wild Sea budget sleeping bag
- Light Tour sleep mat
- Flextail pillow
...plus a few other bits of budget wild camping gear!
It didn't go to plan this time but I still wanted to share an overview of the gear. Check out the new mods I’ve done to my Lanshan 2 as well!
Check out @longsufferinghiker for more Lambshank mods.
Thanks for watching! Ben 🤓
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It's great to see a budget friendly setup. In the states most UA-camrs push high end equipment. Most people just can't put 700 dollars into a tent or 500 dollars into a sleep system. Great job.
Thank you 🤓 I always try and stick with budget gear. Mainly because I have no money 🤣
@@DaleyOutdoors You have no money because you chase you viewers away #mickdouglashasleftthebuilding 🤣🤣🤣
@@Karma-qt4ji damn it! 🤣
Good intro to your kit …….. don’t bother with any naysayers either. I like to see what others scoff as it gives me ideas. 😎
Very good call. No point torturing yourself. Credit to you too mate for showing a bail. 👍
That wasn't a 'fail' - that was being realistic - no point if there's no joy! And the eating on camera part made me laugh so much! Thank you for your entertaining and informative videos 😊
Glad you enjoyed it! 🤓👍
😂”Mick Douglas” eating moment. 😂
Couldn’t help it 🤣
Thanks Mick Douglas. I laughed so much I nearly choked on my Tuna cob!
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I chuckled when the clip flashed up of you eating whilst saying that guy's name. Personally, I enjoy seeing all aspects (ok, maybe not ALL) of a wildcamp, and eating is one of those things that helps set the scene, especially after a bit of a hike and you know that food is replenishing all the burnt calories.
Anyway, another nice video. I'm very slowly wittling down the weight of my pack, gram by gram, but a long way off getting down to the level you have here. Nice work!
Edit: Forgot to say, you should never feel bad for bailing. Follow your gut, and if you're not enjoying it, what's the point when you could be doing something else?
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 🤓 Ben
@@martydav9475 I've come across a couple of his videos before but don't think I've seen any of him cooking yet. I will have to check out more. :)
I used to be guilty of carrying far too much. I still find it hard to leave some items at home, lol.
Big problem I have is that the more weight I save, the more beers I decide I can afford to carry!
Thx for being real while out. Every trip isn’t all bells n whistles.
Love your channel n your suggestions n reviews.
I appreciate that! 👍
SIMPLE AND NICE PRESENTATION - LOVE IT!
THANKS A LOT!
Funny coincidence, I bailed on my wild camp last night. I just wasn't feeling it in my tent at around midnight. So I packed up in the dark and drove home for 1-1/2 hours. There's no shame in it, as you said. Maybe it was the helicopter hovering nearby for couple of hours that broke me. Keep up the good work good man, thanks for everything
Will do. Cheers mate 👍
Thanks for still uploading - I enjoyed the video regardless of the camp outcome. Like you say, important to show all sides of wild camping rather than filter it to only the good. Life’s just like this
I’m currently lightening my bikepacking load so your video caught my eye, like your set up 🙂
As for changing your mind about staying out, wholeheartedly agree with you - sometimes you just don’t have the interest, it happens and only lasts for that day. With the heat, the flies and that itchy rash, I’d have headed home for a nice cool shower and my own bed for the night! Thanks for sharing, enjoyed the video 👍🏻🙂
Thanks for watching! Glad it was useful 🤓 ATB, Ben
You cannot win them all. Glad you put this out as it's great to see how you've adapted the kit. Hope the rash wasn't serious. Stay safe.
No idea what it was tbh, it had gone by the next day 🤷♂️
@DaleyOutdoors good to hear. Working my way through your other videos based on Grizzly Gaz's recommendation. Great work.
Interested to see what you think of the sleeping bag as well. I took punt on the 400 fill bag to try for summer.
I'll be trying in couple weeks as arrived the moment I stepped back in the house off my last camp
How did it go for you mate? Considering grabbing that one for myself.
@greb. I'd say OK for summer as I am a cold sleeper. 10 degrees and under if felt a chill even with decent mat. Was about to try it last night with pipedream 400 combined but my trip was cancelled
@@kylew1358 Nice, yeah I'm a pretty warm sleeper and it hardly gets cold enough to use my 0c bag where I live so I'm interested in this one. Seems pretty great for the price.
Made the same modification on my lanshan 2 and it makes it a much better tent.
Agreed 👌
😂😂 mick Douglas mmm had me in stitches, love watching your videos cheers mate
Glad you enjoyed 😆
Walk off scene... Priceless!😂
Haha thanks 😆
I got the 3.5 R value version of the light tour mat on sale recently for only 55 quid. It’s got some reflective foil lining as well so nice and toasty in the summer, and as you say, it’s really comfortable
Thanks for being honest about just calling it a day 😊
Great video Daley, and I can't blame you for baling in that heat. Looking forward to your thoughts on the sleeping bag as my missus is a VERY warm sleeper and I've been looking for a decent value bag that she'll be comfortable in.
I’ll be taking it out again for a proper test soon 👍
Mick D. sounds like a wonderful bloke!🤣 The rash on the legs are more likely midge bites! I used to get them on my camping trips abroad.
Thanks
good on you mate you did not look in the zone on this one so good on you the next one will be a good one i bet take care
Hey man just wanted to say I really enjoy watching your channel and enjoy watching all the content you make and I already know your going to be a huge outdoor UA-cam soon
I doubt that but I’m happy to keep cranking them out 🤓 cheers 👍
Widesea Camping Ultralight Sleeping Bag, i took off the zipper, and hand sow mine into a quilt, it get you down to 40 f, that lowest you want to go, unless you wear layers or a bivy bag, you get cold at 30 f. Good bag for early spring and early summer.
Good idea 👍
I use it to cover my other quit, as a liner. ua-cam.com/video/plb2vBI75zw/v-deo.html
@@DaleyOutdoors Thank you! I left you a video, i am sorry how it looks, i am a nature guy, not good with phone, computers.
After seeing and touching a Langshen 2 I would really like to get one someday.. It's excellent.. I would use it right up to Oct..
Funnily enough when you were showing all the flies, I started scratching 😂
Nice one Ben ! Just goes to show if conditions aint right then bale ! 😄😄
Absolutely 👍
Needed a coastal spot with a sea breeze in that weather. I know it's less hassle and more eco to stay local, but sometimes a long trip is in order. Lanshan mods look good.
Would have been nice. I'm about as far away from the coast as you can get though 😆
Inland summer camps are tragic in hot weather with all the midges in the UK. It keeps them down on the coast and makes it much nicer.
You've been hanging out with Grizzly Gaz too much not staying the night 🤣🤣 🤣 That Mick Douglas bit made me laugh so much! Also at the end when you said you feel too unwell to set up the camera and pretend to walk off 🤣 Really glad you uploaded this, it's good to see some honest videos of what it's really like at times! Plus it was just funny AF!
Glad you enjoyed it 😆👍
Good video. Most Scottish and Wales campers will look to camp away from wind blocking things like trees as wind knocks midges etc down low and the insect smoke rings give you some breaks when in your tent area. But I think excellent call life's too short to put up with a crap night for no reason.
Absolutely 🤓
From the looks of it, the sleeping bag looks exactly the same as some Naturehike-branded ones we've got. If they also make a slightly higher fill-power version they comfort-rate down to 6°, I'm 99% they're the same. The comfort rating on ours is about right.
Yes they’re the same product 👍
The most comfortable sleeping mat I have is also the most impractical, as I found out last week in the Peak District. Having recently got back into trekking, have spent way too much on gear - including the Helm Compact II which you personally recommended and you were *not* wrong!!!!! Thanks for that!!!! But having spent lots on some items I saved on others and went cheap on a mat with an OEX Traverse 5. Tell you what, it is comfortable AF!!! but never really considered how impractical it was for backpacking until I tried to pack it. Over 1 kg and the size of a cocker spaniel :( Ended up doing that noob thing of attaching it outside the bag because I really could not fit it inside.
Will keep it for car camping but am now looking at another one I think you owned? The Exped ultra.
Love the video anyway Ben. Keep them coming!
Only weirdos strap things to the outside of their bags. 🤣
@@DaleyOutdoors Hahahahaha it was that or sleep on the ground mate. And I am not that tough 🤣
I run a baseweight of 5.9kg including a 2 man poled tent and a double sleep mat with built in pillows. Comfort is key. A good night sleep is worth more than a kilo and half
Have you got much of a chance to use that wide sea sleeping bag yet? I'd be keen to see what you think of it.
I’ve used it a few times but mostly as an extra layer in cold weather. It’s a good mild/warm (10 degree) on its own.
Regarding how 'warm' a sleeping bag is also depends on 'you' meaning how much body-fat you have 'blubber' to keep you warm. I am of a 'thin' build and of course that means that I feel the cold more then someone who has more natural body insulation, I have to layer more then most people to keep warm. Selecting/choosing an appropriate sleeping bag is very difficult for all hikers/campers getting the right one is tough going.
Paul Messner got a rash on his lower legs too. Soon cleared up.
Eating on camera lol, that comment made me chuckle. 😂
Nothing wrong with bailing out, I've done it three times this year on camera too... Take care ATB Chris.
My pump sack is actually heavier than my flextail gear pump so it makes sense for my to bring the pump instead. Don't know if this is the case for every pump sack of course. I imagine they vary in weight.
This one probably does to be fair. The Exped and Thermarest pump sacks are a lot lighter though.
@@DaleyOutdoors they do look it!
“Tuna Cob” that’s a new food name for me. I did the bungee cord on my naturehike tent too but with elastic shoe laces. Works a treat. I didn’t do the double loop thing because I’m obviously not as World wise as you but we all learn at our own pace don’t we 😁👍
Yeah you'll get there one day. Chin up. 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors I can only but live in hope 😁
I’ve completely solved all my camping issues. I don’t go anymore.
Wise 🤓
This is why I never pitch a tent in an open space, especially if I know it’s going to be sunny. I actually pick it based on what the weather will be like the next morning. If it’s anyway sunny or warm, I’ll always pitch under trees. If there is no trees, I’ll pitch the tarp over the tent in the area where I know the sun will rise. Not only helps keep the temp down, but also blocks the light out and gives you a few extra hours in the morning.
Good tip 👍
26C... I guess that's hot for you blokes but wait till you've camped in 40C. That's when you pull up the vehicle and set up your tarp, chairs and cooler (or fridge) and just sit in the shade and enjoy the serenity while the kids splash in the creek. Sleeping might happen but too often you just lie still and sweat. Mind you, you don't need as much wood for the campfire... Right decision to pack up and go home. As we say in Australia; "any idiot can be uncomfortable in the bush..." Hot weather use a tarp and a mozzie net, tents are too hot.
ahhh gutted ive been looking at that down bag from ali but didnt want to risk buying it please test it out next time if possible
Will do mate 👍
Uncomfortably hot, sweaty and insect ridden! Not the best conditions for wild camping. Thanks for sharing Ben. How are the Altra Lone Peak mid boots doing? I had the older model and found them very comfortable but whilst walking the Southern Upland Way they leaked and caused my feet all sorts of problems. I had to replace them around half way at Moffat Outdoors. Hoping this newer model is more durable. Apologies if you've already posted an update!
I haven’t done a full update yet but I’m loving them so far. Mid-term review will follow soon I just want to out a few more miles on them first 👍
Had me laughing so many times, your delivery is priceless. Totally not valid without cook kit though, sorry! Just not feeling it that night though eh?
What’s wrong with a tuna cob!!! 🤣
@DaleyOutdoors but no cup of tea, that's just not my cup of tea. You could have placed the cooled teabag on your rash too.😅
There's always another day Ben 👍
Thoughts on the widesea sleeping bag so far? Curious if it can handle cooler temperatures.
I haven’t used it yet. This was the first time I took it out.
Look forward to your review, love the videos!
Didnt u feed a paracord to the very top little loop the the original guy rope and had a metal ring andnused that to give it more stability etc?
I did on my old Lanshan but haven’t bothered with this one. Didn’t seem to make much difference.
@DaleyOutdoors ah good to know :) haha
Having worked in a canteen, I wouldn't recommend tuna on a warm day unless you have a small cool bag and eat it quite soon after setting up the tent. .
It was only out of the fridge for a couple of hours, and sealed in a zip lock bag 👍
So many flies this year. I'm covered in bites just walking up the high street.
The only place to camp in this weather is onyop of a hill as hopefully the wind will blow the flies away
Or on the coast path, far fewer there.
I bailed 13 miles into a 21 miler on the south west coast path on Friday, had 7 miles left to do rated as severe, got the bus to campsite. Better to bail than take the risk
Frickin’ sheep mate 😂🤣 hilarious!
I thought you weren’t going to mod your lamb shank anymore? 😂🤣 I definitely need to add the bungees to the corner of the inner though that’s a great idea!
I’m in the market for a summer down bag so I’m very interested to see how you get on with it.
Hahaha!!! Love the shoutout to Mick Douglas! Hilarious 😂🤣😂
If you’re not feeling it there’s no point. This heat is not fun either to be fair so fair playtime you lovely!
Take care xx
Wasn’t going to mod but I couldn’t help it 😬😬😬😬 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors 😂🤣😂
I agree with you, don't be frightened to bail. You don't have anything to prove. Lying in that tent in the heat with itchy legs would have been no fun, and that's why we do it, to enjoy being outside.
Exactly. Cheers Gary 👍
Good mods with the tent, not a fan of that tent but can be used in others.
Definitely not the weather for a humid fly infested camp. Hope Mr Douglas enjoyed watching you devour those cobs!
I hope so! 🤣 Hope you’re well boss 👍
I want that tent but cba self water proofing it.
You don’t need to with the non pro…
Hi Ben , on a positive note, happy new haircut 💇♂️ looking sharp.
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😂😂😂 quality mate, your slowly building up your end catch phrases 😂 yeh balls to getting eaten alive by flys just to say a sleeping bag worked lol, looking forward to your next no camp 😮😂😂😂
Haha cheers Mick!
Pahahaha, Glad you did that for Mick, what a shoutout. Perfect.
Absolutely 😆👍
My 8yo son loved your little song about being hot an sweaty
Haha I might release it 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors he'd buy it!
Sorry conditions made you bail but you made the right choice - when its not fun it's time to go
Had me laughing my head off. Brilliant and very funny, loved the moaning as I love having a good old moan myself. So many videos try to paint the perfect picture of camping. No one shows themselves not really enjoying it, forgetting their f'ing lighter for the stove or their tent poles or getting lost or all the other stuff that goes wrong. That's the reality of camping. Great stuff! Keeping it real nice one 👍
Haha will do. Warts and all! 😆
I wonder if you’d consider doing a review on your Apple Watch? I’ve just ordered one and would be keen to hear advice on suitable apps for us outdoors folk!
Already done 👉 ua-cam.com/video/OGYKeIZ3SRo/v-deo.html
A great video showing a cheap ultralight set up, and bailing at the end, all for the right reasons. If you do this again, it would be interesting to know the costs of each bit of kit and then all in costs, Ben. Would the cook set would have added about 400g?
Yes about that, plus extra water to boil up for a meal and drink though.
@@DaleyOutdoors You were carrying 4 k of water, so I don't think that's an issue, if you were out on a hill with water sources you would have nailed it, 4.3 kilo + 300g for a meal, porridge, and a brew, you would have nailed it. I suppose the larger question is.... who is Mick Douglas, is he the guy I see in restaurants eating behind a napkin?
@@Mike-zm5bf probably 😆
Certainly some of the ultralighters will only go with non-hot/cold soak foods. I'm toying with relying on a ration heater for a single pack of wet boil in the bag, for single overnighters.
Like you said, if it doesn’t feel right, no need to stick it out. That airpad looks decent for such I high R value and lower price
Loving it so far 👌
I sub to you, None I know yet have I seen, have talk about how many years the ultralight gear will last?
Lol ...the eating made me laugh
I was going to wildcamp on my days off . But the heat is too much. Sorry about the troll. Very aggressive. You deserve better. At least you took it positively. On the good note you were out for a bit in the outdoors. Did a bit of filming. Thanx buddy ..always good content even the eating he he. Take care and god bless
Cheers mate. Yeah I still enjoyed getting out and a decent-ish walk 👍
That Grizzly Gaz has had a bad influence on you!
I know. What a gonk.
@@DaleyOutdoors 🤣🤣🤣
How was the sleeping bag? Did it keep you warm?
Y’ok hun?
@@DaleyOutdoors 😝
@@GrizzlyGaz ‘like share and subscribe’
you rotten sod 😂👍
Well that had the plague of irritating midgy thingies 😳
Don't blame you on the bail out 👍🏻
May I suggest keeping some wet wipes in your first aid - they would help cool down bites, itches and rashes 🤔 - well it works for me anyway.
Have got the bungy loops/cord on my Andes tent but they could do with being longer - what is the thickness of the cord you've used?
Good tip 👌 it’s 2mm bungee (I think!)
Ta muchly 🍻
Btw you flashed those pins again - vid should have at least a PG rating 😂😂😂
fucking dying at "uhhhh mick douglas"
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Good call. Wasn't the gear that failed, it was the conditions.
The rash was an aversion to ultralight camping, good decision to bail if you wasn’t feeling it! Ultralight is for 1% or extreme athletes, I’ll take comfort for a couple of kilos extra any day of the week 🍄
Must have been! 😆
What's with the orange bar travelling across the bottom of the screen in several places during the video?
It’s a progresss bar / countdown to highlight the product review sections.
@@DaleyOutdoors Ah right, never noticed it before. Thanks for the explanation.
I wild-camped earlier this week and thought I'd do without my pillow to save some space. Big mistake - won't be doing that again! Rolled-up clothes are no substitute and will lead to a crappy night's sleep.
Yup. A pillow is essential for me 😆
Daley, I don't blame you for bailing out this afternoon, it doesn't sound like fun, when loads of flies have invaded the tent & legs are itching like a flea infested camel.
Personally, I would have done the same. I own the Widesea 400 sleeping bag (weighs 770 grams) about 4 years now, and is slightly heavier than your Widesea 300, and it has a comfort rating of 6 degrees celsius. I have always felt cold using it at that temperature outdoors, and usually add a liner or wear thermal layers or both. I think in reality the true comfort rating is probably around 12 or 13 degrees celsius.
I'd be interested in hearing how you get on with yours.
All the best.
Thanks for the comment 🤓 I’m looking forward to testing the bag out properly 👍 Ben
@@DaleyOutdoors awesome stuff : ) look forward to watching that video
build tents in the mountains, all here are beautiful. I'm from Vietnam, where are you?
UK
@@DaleyOutdoors yes my friend 👍
Don’t blame you! Common sense prevails. Good to show that there are times where you have to make that call.
I think you should do a ”Mick Douglas” eating moment in all your future videos. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
The Sleeping Bag looks like the Naturehike Rectangular Sleeping Bag Lightweight 800FP Goose Down Sleeping Bag
Yeah they’re the same products just branded with different names. You can get the Light Tour mat as a NatureHike branded one too.
On the contrary this was not a fail,if you aint feeling it dont do it, no point in being billy big bollox .,Excellent video keep it up.
Hi mate would you ever take your dog on a wild camp?
Yes I have done in the past. Check out the back catalogue 😉
@@DaleyOutdoors haha will have a look now thanks mate.
hi, all credit to you ben for giving it a bash. mother nature can be somewhat harsh sometimes and it's knowing when to say, enough!
looking forward to the next video.
kind regards.
Thanks mate 👍
9:05 made my day 🤣
Good to hear it 😆
It''s possible the rash you got on your legs was from the sap of a weed such as (new growth) cow parsnip, growing in amongst the grass. The sap splashes on you when you snap the stems whilst crunching through the grass. Worth noting that the sap of this and some other weeds is phototoxic which means that, even after you wash it off, it's sometimes pre-sensitised your skin to ultraviolet light so that the rash can reappear when exposed to sunlight, even some time later. I've been caught out by it in the past, ploughing along a very overgrown footpath thinking I was OK by wearing walking trousers, so now I'm careful to avoid such situations. There's no need to get paranoid about it, though, at least not in the UK - the leaves are instantly recognisable once you know what to look for (lots of good YT videos available on various umbellifers like cow parsnip) and you can usually step around them easily enough.
Will do some googling on it. Thanks!
Some cow parsnip isn't, it's giant hogweed
That rash.. grass pollen.
Mmmmm Mick Douglas 😂
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@@DaleyOutdoors you’ve made me laugh on more than one occasion but that one did me up. 😂
Nom Nom 😂😂😂
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I was half expecting a Newquay 2003 "I don't know why I f@#king bother" sign off
Haha might have to pull that one out the bag next time 😆
Gaz is not going anywhere if he can’t eat, his boiler burners a lot of fuel , he’s a good man to have along on a camp
Better to be safe than sorry, as you say.
Until someone invents helium beer, I won't be trying ultralight any time soon. Good effort though, the prospect of warm water and a tent full of midges for company wouldn't appeal to me either!
That sleeping bag is identical in every way to Nature Hike sleeping bags - even the model number was the same
Yes they’re the same product just branded differently.
Interesting info.👍 Trying out a couple odd synthetic items for the warmer seasons.... but it will have its limits. Good call Ben.👍👍👍
Mmmm Mick Douglas 😂
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Hello Ben 🙋♂️.
Hope you are good !!
You done the right thing there
and bailed to be honest !!
The midges 🪰 would have
just eaten you alive - no point
in laying in a sweaty tent ⛺️ getting
your; 🥜🔩🌰 even more sweaty 🥵
as the night progresses !! You must
have pitched your tent 🏕 next to
to much 🐑 sheep 💩 !!
I would have done the exact same
and bought some 🍟 chips on the
way home 🏠!!
A few years ago a guy I know had the same
experience and bailed !! - when he went 🏠
the window 🪟 cleaner had popped round
to “do in inside” of his windows (with his dog) whilst his kids were playing outside.
His wife (now ex) had a
bit of explanation to do !! He arrived all; “red and blotchy” from the bites as well !!
Nice homecoming !!
Mind how you go !!
James 🫶✌️
Oh dear lol. Cheers James 👍
Some good tips but a shout out to ua-cam.com/video/b95uPpaorBo/v-deo.html
as well as he puts these and a few more for the Lamb shank😅
Thanks, I've seen that video but couldn't find it in my watch history 👍
Use a tarp and bivvi then you are cool and can still be comfortable.
Summer camping, especially when it's 24c or higher, is just not pleasant. Even hiking in that temperature is a pain. Leave it to the amateurs and wait until its cooler. 😉
If you're not having fun no point in doing it. I've done the same thing.